Topic: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - WELCOME, 'A PLAYER'!!

[deFacto please, you bastards]

And Troy Deeney scored more than Firmino

Thankfully we don’t just look at the goals column with players, which is unfortunately why Wilson doesn’t have a future here. I doubt Sarr does either to be fair but it doesn’t take an Edwards to see who is the far superior footballer out of the two.

At this point I believe he's paid by Wilson and his family.

[MD1990]

Sarr is a far far more dangerous player than Wilson.

If he joins he would be our fastest player no doubt about that. He has some flaws but he would be a big threat coming on against tiring legs.
He would need to improve in tight spaces but Im not his biggest fan but not totally against him signing either.

Remember Mane was not regarded as a brillant signing back in 2016. I remember many thought we overpaid.

[deFacto please, you bastards]

Remember Mane was not regarded as a brillant signing back in 2016. I remember many thought we overpaid.

Again with this lazy comparison. For those who watched him play, regularly, he was a brilliant signing. For those who didn't, didn't think so. However, nobody could dispute the fact that he had two productive seasons at Soton scoring 10 plus goals in the league.

Sarr has done sweet fck all in comparison.

There is a significant difference between the two in terms of quality when Mane joined, and where Sarr is right now.

Mane already had numerous things in his game at the time, where as Sarr is currently limited.

[Nobby Reserve]

Why does the fee matter?

Because it would likely mean we couldn't then sign a much better attacking wide player who could, without a substantial step-down in our effectiveness, actually deputise  for/rotate with Mane & Salah.

[MD1990]

Again with this lazy comparison. For those who watched him play, regularly, he was a brilliant signing. For those who didn't, didn't think so. However, nobody could dispute the fact that he had two productive seasons at Soton scoring 10 plus goals in the league.

Sarr has done sweet fck all in comparison.

There is a significant difference between the two in terms of quality when Mane joined, and where Sarr is right now.

Mane already had numerous things in his game at the time, where as Sarr is currently limited.

He was excellent on his day at Southampton.
But he was inconsistent was even on the bench for a spell too. Cam on & scored 2 against us in 2016.
It isnt a lazy comparison. I know Sarr has not been as good but Mane at Southampton was not showing potential to becoming the best left winger in Europe as he wasnt consistent enough.

I saw him quite regularly at Southampton he was a purple patch player in his time there. Scored very fast hatrick against Villa & one against City.

[Asam]

Doku is one for the future though, not someone who would come into our squad this season as backup for the front three. Even if we did sign him this summer, it seems likely that he would stay with Anderlecht on loan this season.

There is no perfect age... if he was 25 then the question would be does he want to sit on the bench? I’d compare him to Sterling at 17, if we sign him we have the time for him to integrate & get games in the cup competitions and CL/league games as a sub or starter if the opponent is easier

[deFacto please, you bastards]

He was excellent on his day at Southampton.
But he was inconsistent was even on the bench for a spell too. Cam on & scored 2 against us in 2016.
It isnt a lazy comparison. I know Sarr has not been as good but Mane at Southampton was not showing potential to becoming the best left winger in Europe as he wasnt consistent enough.

I saw him quite regularly at Southampton he was a purple patch player in his time there. Scored very fast hatrick against Villa & one against City.

Again, that's more than what Sarr has done for Watford. So there is still a significant difference between the two ergo why I said it's a poor comparison.

Nobody said that Mane showed at Soton that he would be one of the best players in the world, however what he did show that he could walk into the Liverpool side and be a tremendous addition. As I said, he already had various things in his game, that Sarr does not currently have. A footballing brain is one of them.

[smutchin]

There is no perfect age... if he was 25 then the question would be does he want to sit on the bench? I’d compare him to Sterling at 17, if we sign him we have the time for him to integrate & get games in the cup competitions and CL/league games as a sub or starter if the opponent is easier

My comment wasn't so much a personal opinion as a summary of what has been said in the rumours doing the rounds - although in fact my opinion is probably in line with these rumours. I honestly don't know whether or not he is ready to step into our first team, nor if there is any substance in the rumours, but the talk seems to be that we would only be signing him now in order to secure him for the future before someone else snaps him up, and leave him at Anderlecht to develop for another year.

And this sounds like the right approach to me. It would be a mistake in my opinion to bring Doku in now and expect him to be backup to Salah this season.

I remember Owen breaking into the team at 17 as well and he was phenomenal at that age, but it didn't work out so great in the long run. Elliott has had a few sniffs of first team action too, but I'm all for holding him back and letting him develop physically. I wouldn't want to be relying on Elliott this season as someone to call up for a full 90 minutes if one of our regular first team options got injured.

[Zimagic]

Sarr, Dembele, whoever, if we're seriously interested in someone, it's because we believe we can do something with them.

I have my doubts about Dembele: injury history, could score more goals but if we're after him it's because we are convinced we can manage his injuries and get him to calm down a bit in front of goal. Don't forget he skied a gilt edge opportunity to kill off the tie at the Nou in the last seconds with oceans of time and space, didn't even trouble the keeper.

I have my doubts about Sarr: Speed is nice but you have to be able to do something with it. Fast players get slower eventually, they need to be able to actually play football too. His touch & decision making need work. His goal tally is fine for a young winger. Again, I'm convinced that he already has what we need to play here if we're targetting him and we can train him to be what we need for all the rest.

Both, either, are fine.

In fact, I think Edwards could convince me that Christian Poulson would be a good signing right about now. That guy can do no wrong in my eyes.

[lgvkarlos]

Again with this lazy comparison. For those who watched him play, regularly, he was a brilliant signing. For those who didn't, didn't think so. However, nobody could dispute the fact that he had two productive seasons at Soton scoring 10 plus goals in the league.

Sarr has done sweet fck all in comparison.

There is a significant difference between the two in terms of quality when Mane joined, and where Sarr is right now.

Mane already had numerous things in his game at the time, where as Sarr is currently limited.

Agree totally, if we buy Sarr it will definitely be to develop him. He's absolutely nowhere near the level of Mane when he joined.

[JC the Messiah]

Sarr is a far far more dangerous player than Wilson.

If he joins he would be our fastest player no doubt about that. He has some flaws but he would be a big threat coming on against tiring legs.
He would need to improve in tight spaces but Im not his biggest fan but not totally against him signing either.

Remember Mane was not regarded as a brillant signing back in 2016. I remember many thought we overpaid.

I'm sure Usain Bolt is available.

[lgvkarlos]

Sarr, Dembele, whoever, if we're seriously interested in someone, it's because we believe we can do something with them.

I have my doubts about Dembele: injury history, could score more goals but if we're after him it's because we are convinced we can manage his injuries and get him to calm down a bit in front of goal. Don't forget he skied a gilt edge opportunity to kill off the tie at the Nou in the last seconds with oceans of time and space, didn't even trouble the keeper.

I have my doubts about Sarr: Speed is nice but you have to be able to do something with it. Fast players get slower eventually, they need to be able to actually play football too. His touch & decision making need work. His goal tally is fine for a young winger. Again, I'm convinced that he already has what we need to play here if we're targetting him and we can train him to be what we need for all the rest.

Both, either, are fine.

In fact, I think Edwards could convince me that Christian Poulson would be a good signing right about now. That guy can do no wrong in my eyes.

A fit Dembele is absolute top draw, he would be a be big gamble though.

[Crosby Nick]

I'm sure Usain Bolt is available.

We don’t sign Mancs.

[JC the Messiah]

We don’t sign Mancs.

I'm sure Tyson Gay is available...

[lgvkarlos]

We should get Babajide from the ladies team, she looks like the female version of Mane.

[PeterTheRed ...]

Again with this lazy comparison. For those who watched him play, regularly, he was a brilliant signing. For those who didn't, didn't think so. However, nobody could dispute the fact that he had two productive seasons at Soton scoring 10 plus goals in the league.

Sarr has done sweet fck all in comparison.

There is a significant difference between the two in terms of quality when Mane joined, and where Sarr is right now.

Mane already had numerous things in his game at the time, where as Sarr is currently limited.

To be honest, none of us (you and me included) has watched Sarr on regular basis.

[Schmidt]

Mane was a hugely dangerous player before we signed him, the reservations about him were pretty lazy and mostly focused on a barren spell he had in the middle of the season before we signed him. We also had a pretty poor attack at the time and were thinking we needed a 30 goal a season striker. The reservations about Sarr are around him offering very little beyond being young and fast.

[Kekule]

“It looks quite promising” is perhaps the understatement of the summer! 

[Caston]

https://twitter.com/footballdaily/status/1306932077678469122

He's arrived at Melwood... can't be too long now

[Fordy]

To be honest, none of us (you and me included) has watched Sarr on regular basis.

A few key things people seem to be missing when it comes to Sarr. Watford spent 30m and made him their record signing for a reason. It's big money for them and all of last season he was involved in a relegation fight in a poor Watford team.

Sarr came alive against us and showed his qualities. His stats for Watford are not that bad. He clearly has talent.

Basically, they is certainly a player in their and Liverpool are currently one of the world best in improving players.

As back up I don't see what the issue is. Oh and we all know Edwards will be able to pull off a good deal.

He's linked with us and Utd for a reason.

Trust the club.

[PeterTheRed ...]

Mane was a hugely dangerous player before we signed him, the reservations about him were pretty lazy and mostly focused on a barren spell he had in the middle of the season before we signed him. We also had a pretty poor attack at the time and were thinking we needed a 30 goal a season striker. The reservations about Sarr are around him offering very little beyond being young and fast.

At the same age that Sarr is now (22), Mane has signed for Southampton. If the reports are to be believed, we were interested in him at the time, but decided to sign Markovic instead, for a similar amount. Our scouts obviously thought that Markovic is a better prospect than Mane.

[Caston]

A few key things people seem to be missing when it comes to Sarr. Watford spent 30m and made him their record signing for a reason. It's big money for them and all of last season he was involved in a relegation fight in a poor Watford team.

Sarr came alive against us and showed his qualities. His stats for Watford are not that bad.

Basically, they is certainly a player in their and Liverpool are currently one of the world best in improving players.

As back up I don't see what the issue is. Oh and we all know Edwards will be able to pull off a good deal.

Trust the club.

Fordy speaking sense!

[aw1991]

At the same age that Sarr is now (22), Mane has signed for Southampton. If the reports are to be believed, we were interested in him at the time, but decided to sign Markovic instead, for a similar amount. Our scouts obviously thought that Markovic is a better prospect than Mane.

Mane was great for Red Bull Salzburg as well, their best player alongside Kampl. Klopp said he wanted him at Dortmund as well

[arthur sarnoff]

https://twitter.com/footballdaily/status/1306932077678469122

He's arrived at Melwood... can't be too long now

I didn't picture Milner as a Ferrari driver, to be honest.

[PeterTheRed ...]

Mane was great for Red Bull Salzburg as well, their best player alongside Kampl. Klopp said he wanted him at Dortmund as well

In that case, we should trust Klopp. If he wants Sarr, he has a very good reason.

[Qston]

https://twitter.com/footballdaily/status/1306932077678469122

He's arrived at Melwood... can't be too long now

I expected Millie to be driving a ford focus or something. Quite surprised by his choice of vehicle

[deFacto please, you bastards]

In that case, we should trust Klopp. If he wants Sarr, he has a very good reason.

Nobody said we shouldn't trust Klopp. The conversation was in regards to the comparison between Mane and Sarr.

[Trump's tiny tiny hands]

I didn't picture Milner as a Ferrari driver, to be honest.

Makes me doubt everything I have known about anything, to be honest.

[PeterTheRed ...]

I didn't picture Milner as a Ferrari driver, to be honest.

My thought exactly the same 

[Schmidt]

At the same age that Sarr is now (22), Mane has signed for Southampton. If the reports are to be believed, we were interested in him at the time, but decided to sign Markovic instead, for a similar amount. Our scouts obviously thought that Markovic is a better prospect than Mane.

That's a big assumption you're making while trying to make whatever point you're going for.

As far as I can tell the argument people are making for signing Sarr is that he's fast and him being not very good might be because he's young, it's not really compelling stuff. It's one of those situations where people only start saying we should sign him after we've been tentatively linked to him, if we weren't linked I'm not sure anyone would be pushing for a player with 5 league goals last season.

[Romford_Red]

One minor positive with AFCON being moved back to January from summer is that it now coincides with the winter break. So instead of missing players for four weeks, we're likely to only miss them for closer to two.

Thinking about that, is it possible Klopp has decided that all that matters is getting in the right player, and they'll figure out the AFCON thing later? So if he thinks Sarr is the one (rightly or wrongly) then would he sacrifice signing him on a five-year deal simply because it helps us mitigate a tricky few weeks in January 2022?

Equally, the club plans things long term. It could be that there's an expectation that one of Mane or Salah depart next summer to be replaced by a non-African attacker (let's say Sancho). In that case, Klopp would know he could let Mane and Sarr go to AFCON while relying on Sancho, Bobby, Firmino, Origi, Elliott etc to see him through? That's not me wishing Mo away, I hope that's not the case - just pointing out that as fans we base things on how they are now, while the club has probably gamed out several different scenarios.

Bobby & Firmino?

Should be useful to have a spare.

[Samie]

In the last hours #LFC have contacted Barca to analyze the possibility of bringing Ousmane Dembélé on loan. Klopp is a huge admirer and believes he can take his attacking options a step up. One thing is certain, Barca won’t let him leave without an obligation to buy. [@SPORT]

[PeterTheRed ...]

Nobody said we shouldn't trust Klopp. The conversation was in regards to the comparison between Mane and Sarr.

If our professional scouts decided at the time that Markovic is a better prospect than Mane, what makes you think that you and me can judge how Sarr could and would develop? Lets leave that job to the competent scouts we have now, and enjoy the Thiago announcement today.

[Qston]

My thought exactly the same 

Hold on. Perhaps he is driving Thiago's car for him and he has used his Merc Van ? That would make more sense

[Brain Potter]

I expected Millie to be driving a ford focus or something. Quite surprised by his choice of vehicle

I thought he drove a vauxhall cavalier.

[killer-heels]

Are SPORT not bullshit merchants?

Obligation to buy is mad.

[Kekule]

I think his Liverpool career has already peaked. He’ll never make as big a contribution to this club as this.



We should keep it as this perfect moment, and not run the risk of ruining his legacy.   

[El Lobo]

Shit pass that, was behind him

[Hazell]

I'd take Dembele on loan in a heartbeat.

Great idea!

Ousmane, Ousmane Dembele
Runs down the wing for me

[Dim Glas]

My thought exactly the same 

I think the only one who drives a ‘normal’ car is Jürgen Klopp in his Opel, but he’s paid a lot of money to drive a normal car