Topic: The BBC

[Redmaj]

No contact no contract. Shut the door or don't answer it or tell them to bog of with your video doorbell.

Or if you have the time, do what this guy did :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tbd-fEAT9UA

Still my fav goon out gunned video.

[cdav]

Times reporting that the BBC licence fee is to be scrapped and moved to a subscription model.

5 years ago I would care. Now, not at all.

My favourite part of the mooted proposal was that 'stars' could only have a contract with the BBC and not do work for other media companies. If that was the Tory plan- would like to see it extended so MPs can only have one job...

[SamAteTheRedAcid]

My favourite part of the mooted proposal was that 'stars' could only have a contract with the BBC and not do work for other media companies. If that was the Tory plan- would like to see it extended so MPs can only have one job...

But how could they survive on the paltry MPs salary?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-ministers-salary-not-enough-a7976641.html

[thejbs]

Now will be a proper financial crisis for viewers. What number of subscriptions is breaking point? Amazon, Netflix, Disney, apple, Hulu, sky, bbc... it’ll be a fortune.

[eddymunster]

Now will be a proper financial crisis for viewers. What number of subscriptions is breaking point? Amazon, Netflix, Disney, apple, Hulu, sky, bbc... it’ll be a fortune.

The only one of those that isn't currently a subscription is the BBC which you have to pay £12 a month for if you want any TV at all, so I'm not sure what your point is. If anything if the BBC went optional subscription service, it would be a potential saving, not an additional subscription surely?

[AndyInVA]

No contact no contract. Shut the door or don't answer it or tell them to bog of with your video doorbell.

Or if you have the time, do what this guy did :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tbd-fEAT9UA

Still my fav goon out gunned video.

Brilliant. Reminds me of a time when the driver a google van with a camera on it got shirty with some member of the public taking pictures of the driver

[AndyInVA]

The BBC is a brilliant organisation and you only realize how good it is when you go somewhere else. Radio stations, web pages and some good high quality TV.

It does seem totally unfair when TV users have to buy a licence when something like a 1/4 of people less than 25 hardly watch regular TV at all

I can't imagine a model for removal of the licence without putting BBC budget into taxes or totally slimming down the service to fund it.

Binning off 5 Live to substitute it with Talksport would be a step down

[Andy @ Allerton!]

Some of you lot must be mad mingers

How much is it? Less than 3 quid week per household?

Do you all go to pubs and drink tapwater?

[SamAteTheRedAcid]

Some of you lot must be mad mingers

How much is it? Less than 3 quid week per household?

Do you all go to pubs and drink tapwater?

The headbangers on both left and right think it is biased against them...so bash it at every opportunity...which soon will leave the vast majority, who are more in the centre, to go without.

[thejbs]

The only one of those that isn't currently a subscription is the BBC which you have to pay £12 a month for if you want any TV at all, so I'm not sure what your point is. If anything if the BBC went optional subscription service, it would be a potential saving, not an additional subscription surely?

My point is that going back a few years, you didn’t need a plethora of subscriptions to access close to 100% of Available UK content.

Soon, if you want Disney, HBO, NBC, BBC, Netflix, Amazon etc digital content, you’ll need a separate subscription for each. Some are already pointing to it being unsustainable.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

Some of you lot must be mad mingers

How much is it? Less than 3 quid week per household?

Do you all go to pubs and drink tapwater?

I find it impossible to talk to people who slag the BBC off,99% of them are just pig ignorant when it comes to the huge amount of 5* content they provide,be it TV,online or the radio and are too fucking dumb to understand that the only MPs who bang the abolish the license drum are in the pocket of Murdoch and the rest of the 0.5% c*nts.

[Agent99]

Some of you lot must be mad mingers

How much is it? Less than 3 quid week per household?

Do you all go to pubs and drink tapwater?

It's about choice imo. If you want the BBC then pay for it and if you don't then you shouldn't be forced to. Also, paying pricks like Alan Shearer £400k a year is a disgraceful use of the licence fee.

[BlackandWhitePaul]

It's about choice imo. If you want the BBC then pay for it and if you don't then you shouldn't be forced to. Also, paying pricks like Alan Shearer £400k a year is a disgraceful use of the licence fee.

Alan Shearer is not a prick and £400,000 a year is peanuts for the greatest footballer of all time, he should get at least treble that.

[Agent99]

Alan Shearer is not a prick and £400,000 a year is peanuts for the greatest footballer of all time, he should get at least treble that.

[Red-Soldier]

Alan Shearer is not a prick and £400,000 a year is peanuts for the greatest footballer of all time, he should get at least treble that.

There's an unbiased opinion

[WhereAngelsPlay]

There's an unbiased opinion

It's strange to find a Notts County fan who worships Shearer so much.


The BBC is Boss.

[Andy @ Allerton!]

It's about choice imo. If you want the BBC then pay for it and if you don't then you shouldn't be forced to. Also, paying pricks like Alan Shearer £400k a year is a disgraceful use of the licence fee.

If the licence fee is absolished then there is no 'choice' - it'll go under.

The Tories wanted it gone - they hate the BBC nearly as much as they hate the NHS, Social Care, Unemployment benefits and the rest

And thanks to the populace of the UK, their wish will be granted. Expect to see most radio stations to go - to be replaced by Right Wing Fox-like channels run by dickheads like Murdoch and most channels to be abolished - with the rest being financed by lobby groups that want to push a far-right agenda.

[Titi Camara]

Do you accept Andy, that the BBC have fallen short on their remit of unbiased news/politics?

[thejbs]

It's about choice imo. If you want the BBC then pay for it and if you don't then you shouldn't be forced to. Also, paying pricks like Alan Shearer £400k a year is a disgraceful use of the licence fee.

Let’s do away with national insurance and tax too. If you want services, pay for them and if you don’t you shouldn’t be forced to.

[killer-heels]

Let’s do away with national insurance and tax too. If you want services, pay for them and if you don’t you shouldn’t be forced to.

Are we equating the Beeb with roads, schools, hospitals and the NHS?

[Jiminy Cricket]

Are we equating the Beeb with roads, schools, hospitals and the NHS?

As a source of non-commercialised and (in theory) non-partisan news and information, is not also very important to society? There are other ways of ensuring such impartiality (or variety of sources to represent a breadth of views), but that will not happen in the UK. More unbridled power to Murdock et al.

[killer-heels]

As a source of non-commercialised and (in theory) non-partisan news and information, is not also very important to society? There are other ways of ensuring such impartiality (or variety of sources to represent a breadth of views), but that will not happen in the UK. More unbridled power to Murdock et al.

I am all for having some sort of State broadcaster. I am massively pro State and if anything would like to see far more state intervention and reach and regulations in things like media, industry, food, safety etc.

However, the Beeb in its current form is not worthy of such protections. If we want to curb bias then regulations should be in place or should be put in place to do that and its one reason why Sky and ITV are hardly biased more or less than the Beeb.

There is a place for radio to be protected and maybe a single channel. But thats about it.

[Agent99]

And thanks to the populace of the UK, their wish will be granted. Expect to see most radio stations to go - to be replaced by Right Wing Fox-like channels run by dickheads like Murdoch and most channels to be abolished - with the rest being financed by lobby groups that want to push a far-right agenda.

Let’s do away with national insurance and tax too. If you want services, pay for them and if you don’t you shouldn’t be forced to.

[Sheer Magnetism]

Dave Roback's died at the age of 61. Since a lot of people are fans of rock stars, musicians or rappers who may not be well known enough to warrant an individual thread, I thought I'd start off an all purpose one where people could post up their personal RIPs.

Anyway, Roback's been in a few different bands down the years but came to recognition as singer and guitarist in the terrific Rain Parade, thought by many to be the best band in California's Paisley Underground scene in the mid-80's, before hooking up with Hope Sandoval to form Mazzy Star, who remain one of the sexiest bands ever. He made some genuinely great music.

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/4DPFtJGdHRA" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/4DPFtJGdHRA</a>

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/PkbPEY8LgDo" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/PkbPEY8LgDo</a>

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/jN9h9QEUI08" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/jN9h9QEUI08</a>

[Jiminy Cricket]

If the licence fee is absolished then there is no 'choice' - it'll go under.

The Tories wanted it gone - they hate the BBC nearly as much as they hate the NHS, Social Care, Unemployment benefits and the rest

And thanks to the populace of the UK, their wish will be granted. Expect to see most radio stations to go - to be replaced by Right Wing Fox-like channels run by dickheads like Murdoch and most channels to be abolished - with the rest being financed by lobby groups that want to push a far-right agenda.

Let’s do away with national insurance and tax too. If you want services, pay for them and if you don’t you shouldn’t be forced to.

Seems like an obvious joke from thejps.

[FaitAccompli]

Absolutely gutted about David Roback. I love the Rain Parade (although he left after the debut album, so doesn't appear on Crashing Dream), Opal and Mazzy Star - all three bands with similar yet also distinct sounds. Really wish I had gone to see Mazzy Star a few years ago...

Thanks David, for all the great music.

[killer-heels]

Beeb had a nightmare last week on QT. Some old bigot mouthed off about immigrants and apparently she is a Tommy Robinson supporter and part of the NF.

The New Statesman reported that the Beeb used that clip on its social media accounts. I looked on Twitter now and it looks like its been taken down now. It was viewed over 6m times.

#balance

[Andy @ Allerton!]

Do you accept Andy, that the BBC have fallen short on their remit of unbiased news/politics?

Are you taking the piss?

The Tories are running the BBC.

Yes. Fine. They are. So kill the BBC because they are infested with Tories?

Let's look at that. Come on mate. You look at that. Talk me back on that.

[Agent99]

Seems like an obvious joke from thejps.

No doubt. I've just heard a lot of people comparing the BBC to the NHS and other public services and it's ridiculous.

[Titi Camara]

Are you taking the piss?

The Tories are running the BBC.

Yes. Fine. They are. So kill the BBC because they are infested with Tories?

Let's look at that. Come on mate. You look at that. Talk me back on that.

Then we both agree it's not fit for purpose. If you do not agree with abolishing the compulsory fee, how do we cut the ties?

For me personally, I think there needs to legislation put in place that stops either large donaters to political parties, party members, party campaigners, or MPs from ever being employed there.

I recognise there are ways around those rules (simply don't broadcast your affiliations) but I'd prefer to have a go at tackling the issue rather than ignoring it and watching the BBC continue to lose credibility.

If it can't be reformed then I would support the removal of the the compulsory fee, why should they continue to have this entitlement when they do not deliver on their base remit?

[So… Howard Philips]

Let’s do away with national insurance and tax too. If you want services, pay for them and if you don’t you shouldn’t be forced to.

Taking the none payment argument to its extreme childless people shouldn't contribute to education, childcare, child benefit or any remaining Sure start centres.

[Red-Soldier]

Beeb had a nightmare last week on QT. Some old bigot mouthed off about immigrants and apparently she is a Tommy Robinson supporter and part of the NF.

The New Statesman reported that the Beeb used that clip on its social media accounts. I looked on Twitter now and it looks like its been taken down now. It was viewed over 6m times.

#balance

Yeah they have been stinking out the place for a while now in that sense.  The Beeb is in need of reform.

[S]

Was going to start a thread for this news. Such a distinctive sound. I'm listening to Mazzy Star now and it's always like slipping into a dream.

[Lush is the best medicine...]

https://twitter.com/jebbush/status/1233087443202691078?s=21

And so many think his brother was the thick one in the family

[WhereAngelsPlay]

Yeah they have been stinking out the place for a while now in that sense.  The Beeb is in need of reform.

And Conservatives are just the folks to do it 

[WhereAngelsPlay]

https://twitter.com/jebbush/status/1233087443202691078?s=21

And so many think his brother was the thick one in the family

This tweet was paid for by Rupert Murdoch.

[Red-Soldier]

And Conservatives are just the folks to do it 

Please highlight where I said "Tory reform". Thanks.

If you read through this thread, you'll find I am in favour of the BBC.

They haven't been great on political things for a few years now.  Doesn't mean to say I want rid. 

[SamAteTheRedAcid]

I'm listening to Mazzy Star now and it's always like slipping into a dream.

Good description of their sound.

Sad to think there'll be no more magic from his hands. Really a lovely band, just got on with making their music their own way, untouched by the industry or the world outside.

[19th Nervous Title]

Good idea for a thread. Posted in the music thread recently that Andy Gill had died. Went unnoticed. Mega artists have their own threads. The rest can go in here. As crass as that sounds.

[J_Kopite]

I see the BBC invited Nigel Frottage onto Newsnight to talk about Coronavirus last night...