Topic: Álisson Ramsés Becker

[CHOPPER]

Is how I see it going P. Sadly for him and no one wants anyone to fail at this club, but far too many years with no real progress should mean only one thing.



The butty van.

[Sir Capon of Debaser]

Is how I see it going P. Sadly for him and no one wants anyone to fail at this club, but far too many years with no real progress should mean only one thing.



The butty van.

Not buyin a butty off him.Probably dropped the sausages on the floor and find a pube in mine.Hate gettin pyabbs in my teeth

[PhaseOfPlay]

Not buyin a butty off him.Probably dropped the sausages on the floor and find a pube in mine.Hate gettin pyabbs in my teeth

That's not what I heard.

[Dim Glas]

Can defo see us hiring a new gk coach.Theyre not spending 70 mil on a goalie and fucking this up.Theyll give him the best chance to be the best imo.Its like as a club weve never taken the gk position seriously.Can see Achterberg taking a backseat or being jibbed soon

why? Multiple managers have stuck with the same one. Doesn't seem to be a role they are looking to change.

[Clint Eastwood]

Don't even want to consider the possibility of Alisson struggling to the extent that we sack Achterberg. While there doesn't seem to be much evidence based on keeper performances during his time, several managers including Klopp rate him. He's had positive comments from his keepers too.

[CHOPPER]

Not buyin a butty off him.Probably dropped the sausages on the floor and find a pube in mine.Hate gettin pyabbs in my teeth

Any man, who drops another mans sausage, and leaves pyabb sprinkle, in said sausage, is a man who doesn't deserve to serve another mans sausage.

[vivabobbygraham]

Any man, who drops another mans sausage, and leaves pyabb sprinkle, in said sausage, is a man who doesn't deserve to serve another mans sausage.

Or eat it

[IanZG]

why? Multiple managers have stuck with the same one. Doesn't seem to be a role they are looking to change.

And I'd argue that all three of the keepers that played for us during the past few seasons have improved under Achterberg. We even got over 10mil for Ward, who was never considered a top level prospect.

[CHOPPER]

Or eat it

Steady on old chap, there are children watching.



Remember Burma and all that. We have standards.

[Zlen]

Who was it that recommended Alisson to Roma?
I heard the story on TAW, but forgot who it was that swore that they should get him.

[vivabobbygraham]

Steady on old chap, there are children watching.



Remember Burma and all that. We have standards.

I was at Sandhurst dear chap where the eating of sausage is compulsory but only after lights out

[Chalky Boots]

Who was it that recommended Alisson to Roma?
I heard the story on TAW, but forgot who it was that swore that they should get him.

wasn't Claudio Taffarel was it? Or was it the one with him that he told Brazil to make him number 1 over Alves before he'd even really established himself at Club level.

[Zlen]

wasn't Claudio Taffarel was it? Or was it the one with him that he told Brazil to make him number 1 over Alves before he'd even really established himself at Club level.

Yep, Taffarel it was.
Cheers.

[So… Howard Philips]

Let's remember, though, we bought Barnes from Watford, Houghton and Aldo from Oxford, and Beardsley from a nearly-relegated Newcastle. We're doing well in transfers this summer, but let's not overplay the analogy. Those players were proper moneyball signings back in the day.

Barnes at, what £900,000, was seen to be expensive but a few weeks later we doubled that outlay to sign Beardsley. Those two were well known, Aldo and Houghton not so much.

But we were spending the Rush windfall so who cared!

[Sir Capon of Debaser]

Any man, who drops another mans sausage, and leaves pyabb sprinkle, in said sausage, is a man who doesn't deserve to serve another mans sausage.

[johnj147]

welcome lad all the best . at lfc 

[Dundalis]

https://twitter.com/WC_LFC_Torres/status/1018692341413109760?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Above thread of tweets analysing Alisson and his distribution in incredible depth has actually had me change my mind about the signing. Gone from merely cautiously optimistic and wondering why we didn't sign Oblak instead despite the increased cost (as I posted in the Alisson transfer thread), to actually excited about it. Literally looks like an outlier in terms of goalkeeper distribution even compared to Ederson who's an outlier himself and it's a skill that a lot of people are saying is the area where Ederson is superior to Alisson while most agree Alisson is the better shot stopper.

[Kopenhagen]

https://instagram.com/p/Blbfh26FoJ-/

"AB1" on his gloves...He's taking the number from Karius.

[Dim Glas]

https://instagram.com/p/Blbfh26FoJ-/

"AB1" on his gloves...He's taking the number from Karius.

he might well be, but those are his Brazil gloves, same style and colours as he wore in the world cup.

[kev_goss]

Don't even want to consider the possibility of Alisson struggling to the extent that we sack Achterberg. While there doesn't seem to be much evidence based on keeper performances during his time, several managers including Klopp rate him. He's had positive comments from his keepers too.

Didn't Klopp say last year that he rates him and not seen anyone work as hard? Can't see klopp getting rid of Johnny boy if that's the case.

[Djozer]

https://twitter.com/WC_LFC_Torres/status/1018692341413109760?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Above thread of tweets analysing Alisson and his distribution in incredible depth has actually had me change my mind about the signing. Gone from merely cautiously optimistic and wondering why we didn't sign Oblak instead despite the increased cost (as I posted in the Alisson transfer thread), to actually excited about it. Literally looks like an outlier in terms of goalkeeper distribution even compared to Ederson who's an outlier himself and it's a skill that a lot of people are saying is the area where Ederson is superior to Alisson while most agree Alisson is the better shot stopper.

Welcome to the dark side mate, wherein we hype new signing to such a level that no matter how good he is, he won't quite measure up to expectations. But yeah, he seems like almost everything we could want in a keeper, going by last year anyway. Think there's a fair chance we've bought a monster.

You seen the greatest ever goalkeeping compilation ever in the world ever yet? If not, here it is (even though it's not helping me dampen my own ridiculously OTT expectations one iota and is in fact reinforcing them massively, I can't stop watching it): https://twitter.com/romathings/status/979494811454488576

[Trendisnotdestiny]

https://instagram.com/p/Blbfh26FoJ-/

"AB1" on his gloves...He's taking the number from Karius.

Either that or #19 --- since Mane went all Messi and dice.

[Dr. Beaker]

Quick question for goalie types. How is it even possible to throw a ball accurately when wearing these massive contraptions on your hands?

[Lubeh]

They are made to fit hand size, and you know what the say Big Hands....

Big gloves

[rafathegaffa83]

Seems really comfortable speaking English so communication shouldn't be an issue with the back four.

Yeah, I just saw the first day video. For someone who hasn't ever lived in an English speaking country, his English is quite good. It will only improve.

[Motty]

Quick question for goalie types. How is it even possible to throw a ball accurately when wearing these massive contraptions on your hands?

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[spider-neil]

You won't like him when he's angry...

Mr Lovren, don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry.

[Trendisnotdestiny]

Quick question for goalie types. How is it even possible to throw a ball accurately when wearing these massive contraptions on your hands?

Repetition and Ritual --- some keepers soak their gloves in water to have them form to their hands (although it can get pretty clammy in there).   Others find practice rituals fingers, hands and arms to simulate their throwing motions. 

All in all, they have been doing this with new gloves for decades, many of them (and the look, material and technology has changed quite a bit to make each generation of glove technology --- easier).

[Marty McFly]

I wouldn’t surprised if  this video  has already been posted somewhere.

But he seems to pass it about like Xabi Alonso sometimes , and a huge accurate  throw

https://youtu.be/3euu6HPyKeM

Oh and bit late but welcome Alisson to our wonderful club!

 I’m sure you’ll be proven to be worth every penny in due time ! 👍🏼

[Robert_B]

Someone described him as a big cat prowling around the penalty box. I like that description.

I only have two concerns:

1. Keepers live and die on confidence. As we know all too painfully. Does anyone know how he reacts when the inevitable happens and one of his drag backs or cute footwork gets charged down successfully by a striker?

2. He does seem to parry the ball back into dangerous positions. I think part of that can be mitigated by the fact that a lot of those parries are very saves that most keepers wouldn't have made in the first place. Also by way of mitigation, his reactions are very good, so it's not as if the loose ball is a guaranteed goal for a striker following up. But can anyone else offer any comfort in that point?

But make no mistake, I am happy. I would have had Karius back as first choice... I like him, and I'm not going to write him off on the basis of one game (putting the concussion to one side completely). But, that said, even ignoring the CL final, the goalkeeping position is one which could be improved and we've now bought the best, available, player in the world. So fair play to those who made it happen.

One other thought... I don't agree with the argument of "a keeper should never cost 60m" etc. Same goes for fullbacks too. Its supply and demand. How many truly great goalkeepers are there in the world at the moment? Not many, therefore they're at a premium. Also, you only have 11 players on the pitch, so why ignore one of those positions? I'd rather have a top class keeper or fullback on the pitch than a top class striker on the bench.

[fiveways]

I would have had Karius back as first choice... I like him, and I'm not going to write him off on the basis of one game (putting the concussion to one side completely).

It was interesting watching the live warm up session on the LFC utube yesterday - Sami Hyypia was saying he thought the best thing for Karius was a move abroad where the opposition fans would give him less stick and would give him a fresh start - the upshot of this whole sorry saga is we thankfully now have one of the best keepers in the world and top top quality in all areas of the pitch with no glaring gaps that need improving when everyone's fit and available for selection - plus of course all under the helm of Mr Motivator - it's going to be a vintage season

[Dr. Beaker]

Repetition and Ritual --- some keepers soak their gloves in water to have them form to their hands (although it can get pretty clammy in there).   Others find practice rituals fingers, hands and arms to simulate their throwing motions. 

All in all, they have been doing this with new gloves for decades, many of them (and the look, material and technology has changed quite a bit to make each generation of glove technology --- easier).

Cheers mate.

[David Struhme]

When is likely debut?

[Medellin]

Dragonborn!

https://streamable.com/feax9

[Hazell]

Dragonborn!

https://streamable.com/feax9

Makes me wanna play Skyrim again.

[Samie]

When is likely debut?

Napoli game in Ireland.

[Advil]

Serious question, is Alisson good at saving penalties?

[him_15]

A singing comes from nowhere and I feel surreal now. Haven't seen a more existing squad for long time as a Liverpool fan. Can't wait for the season to kick off!

[Mr_Shane]

Serious question, is Alisson good at saving penalties?

You would expect.... the fellow is like spiderman, and look at the speed at which he gets himself ready after making a save


Alisson's top 50 saves: 3 of them are penalties

https://youtube.com/watch?v=W3eeBFsuOS4

[wheresnemeth]

You would expect.... the fellow is like spiderman, and look at the speed at which he gets himself ready after making a save


Alisson's top 50 saves: 3 of them are penalties

https://youtube.com/watch?v=W3eeBFsuOS4

He seems to have the tendency of pushing the ball back into the danger area in front of him, rather than to the outside of the goal posts.