Author Topic: Offensive 96 t shirt (Read 15921 times)

Original · « **on:** March 15, 2018, 08:29:49 pm »

Anyone got a clue what the fuck this is all about?

https://m.us.topman.com/en/tmus/product/red-goes-around-t-shirt-7479993

gazzam1963 · « **Reply #1 on:** March 15, 2018, 08:32:08 pm »

Just seen this on the echo website , top shop selling a t shirt in red with a huge 96 on it with the words Karma and what goes around comes around , can’t believe something like this wasn’t picked up by anyone making selection decisions at top shop . Apologies if referenced elsewhere

Thé_Ḓárk_P̌áşşéngér · « **Reply #2 on:** March 15, 2018, 08:39:37 pm »

At the moment, I'm speechless.

John C · « **Reply #3 on:** March 15, 2018, 08:39:43 pm »

I think as many people as possible should seek an explanation. I've emailed them despite it taking several clicks to get to an appropriate subject title on their website.

red vinyl · « **Reply #4 on:** March 15, 2018, 08:40:40 pm »

Is right John

Zlen · « **Reply #5 on:** March 15, 2018, 08:41:33 pm »

What the actual fucking fuck?!?

Lone Star Red · « **Reply #6 on:** March 15, 2018, 08:43:09 pm »

Released in 1996:

LovelyCushionedHeader · « **Reply #7 on:** March 15, 2018, 08:44:07 pm »

Is it only available on the US website?

Surely there must be another meaning to it and it’s just a massive coincidence. Surely...

Dench57 · « **Reply #8 on:** March 15, 2018, 08:46:25 pm »

I'm sure it is a coincidence, but fucking hell.

John C · « **Reply #9 on:** March 15, 2018, 08:47:17 pm »

Quote from: Lone Star Red on March 15, 2018, 08:43:09 pm

Released in 1996:

This explanation has been discussed elsewhere, but I'm unequivocal there is pernicious intent behind the release of it at this time of the year. The colour. the 96 style, the theme, the entire fucking garment is insidious.

I'd like to know precisely whose inspiration it was.

gazzam1963 · « **Reply #10 on:** March 15, 2018, 08:48:06 pm »

Quote from: Dench57 on March 15, 2018, 08:46:25 pm

I'm sure it is a coincidence, but fucking hell.

I too think it’s coincidental but how many people must in buying , marketing and retail has that gone through without one person raising a warning flag about it .

Upinsmoke · « **Reply #11 on:** March 15, 2018, 08:51:14 pm »

Fuck right off

No way is that a bob marley thing. That's a blatant dig at the 96. Karma, red, with 96 on the back. You can fuck off.

Dench57 · « **Reply #12 on:** March 15, 2018, 08:52:15 pm »

Quote from: gazzam1963 on March 15, 2018, 08:48:06 pm

I too think it’s coincidental but how many people must in buying , marketing and retail has that gone through without one person raising a warning flag about it .

Its US only right? Nobody over there would know about Hillsborough so its possible it wouldn't get flagged

Fiasco · « **Reply #13 on:** March 15, 2018, 08:52:54 pm »

Red, the number 96, that fucking slogan, just a few weeks before Hillsborough anniversary.

Coincidence? It is a fucking strange one if it is.

gazzam1963 · « **Reply #14 on:** March 15, 2018, 09:02:52 pm »

Quote from: Dench57 on March 15, 2018, 08:52:15 pm

Its US only right? Nobody over there would know about Hillsborough so its possible it wouldn't get flagged

In the picture on the Liverpool echo website it’s showing at £20 surely on A us website it would be in dollars

red vinyl · « **Reply #15 on:** March 15, 2018, 09:03:10 pm »

It’s on the topman.co.uk site. I’ve mailed them also.

Dench57 · « **Reply #16 on:** March 15, 2018, 09:05:01 pm »

Quote from: red vinyl on March 15, 2018, 09:03:10 pm

It’s on the topman.co.uk site. I’ve mailed them also.

ok, i don't have any words if they're selling that in the UK

John C · « **Reply #17 on:** March 15, 2018, 09:07:33 pm »

Please remember to seek explanation in a polite and probing manner

Original · « **Reply #18 on:** March 15, 2018, 09:08:09 pm »

Yeah deffo in the uk too. Just had the link sent to me

24/7 · « **Reply #19 on:** March 15, 2018, 09:23:34 pm »

Quote from: John C on March 15, 2018, 09:07:33 pm

Please remember to seek explanation in a polite and probing manner

Oh, I'd like to probe them alright.....

rob1966 · « **Reply #20 on:** March 15, 2018, 09:24:13 pm »

Emailed the c*nts

reddebs · « **Reply #21 on:** March 15, 2018, 09:24:15 pm »

How is everyone contacting them? I'm finding the usual go round in circles "contact us" that most corporates have these days where you can't actually contact them [emoji83]

sms1986 · « **Reply #22 on:** March 15, 2018, 09:26:41 pm »

I think it's a coincidence that they should have realised, although I wonder what the symbolism of the rose was meant to be. If it's to do with the Marley album, I'm not sure if it makes any sense, but it would make sense if they're referencing deceased people. Either way, they really need to clarify things soon.

rob1966 · « **Reply #23 on:** March 15, 2018, 09:33:19 pm »

Quote from: reddebs on March 15, 2018, 09:24:15 pm

How is everyone contacting them? I'm finding the usual go round in circles "contact us" that most corporates have these days where you can't actually contact them [emoji83]

http://help.topman.com/system/templates/selfservice/topman/#!portal/403700000001052/article/Prod-2444/How-do-I-contact-Customer-Care

There is a call and email icon. Select a subject and then click submit and then you can enter your email and message. It works as I've had an auto reply off them

Lush is the best medicine... · « **Reply #24 on:** March 15, 2018, 09:36:40 pm »

Can understand it not being flagged up in the states but not the uk

Thé_Ḓárk_P̌áşşéngér · « **Reply #25 on:** March 15, 2018, 09:38:26 pm »

It's obviously meant that Hillsborough was karma for Heysel. No fucking way is this a coincidence. To make it on to the website, there have been a number of people involved in this.

gazzam1963 · « **Reply #26 on:** March 15, 2018, 09:41:25 pm »

But could also be turned around and the Rose is a tribute to the 96 and the karma what goes around comes around is aimed at the people and who are being prosecuted . Either way it’s not an issue for a fashion t shirt , awaiting the explanation

Cracking Left Foot · « **Reply #27 on:** March 15, 2018, 09:42:03 pm »

The whole thing about 'oh no, it refers to the Bob Marley song' is utter bollocks. Where's the mention of Marley on the shirt? Why is it designed to look like a football shirt? Why in red? I'm sorry, but this fucking stinks.

planet-terror · « **Reply #28 on:** March 15, 2018, 09:42:39 pm »

Have emailed them. Quite a staggering thing.

Lush is the best medicine... · « **Reply #29 on:** March 15, 2018, 09:44:33 pm »

Quote from: gazzam1963 on March 15, 2018, 09:41:25 pm

But could also be turned around and the Rose is a tribute to the 96 and the karma what goes around comes around is aimed at the people and who are being prosecuted .

Are the proceeds going to charity, never mind did they even ask the families is it ok?

BarryCrocker · « **Reply #30 on:** March 15, 2018, 09:52:57 pm »

Brought to you by this lovely creature.

Filler. · « **Reply #31 on:** March 15, 2018, 09:54:58 pm »

Quote from: John C on March 15, 2018, 08:47:17 pm

This explanation has been discussed elsewhere, but I'm unequivocal there is pernicious intent behind the release of it at this time of the year. The colour. the 96 style, the theme, the entire fucking garment is insidious.

I'd like to know precisely whose inspiration it was.

Genuinely can't get my head around it at all, and hearing about the Bob Marley reference hasn't helped much either. Would be interesting for me to hear what big Marley fans have to say about it. Originally recorded in the late 60's I believe yet unreleased at the time, and remixed/remastered and released in 1996, presumably to some fanfare? Is there a relevance to 1996 and 2018 somewhere? Bizarre.

reddebs · « **Reply #32 on:** March 15, 2018, 09:58:55 pm »

Quote from: rob1966 on March 15, 2018, 09:33:19 pm

http://help.topman.com/system/templates/selfservice/topman/#!portal/403700000001052/article/Prod-2444/How-do-I-contact-Customer-Care

There is a call and email icon. Select a subject and then click submit and then you can enter your email and message. It works as I've had an auto reply off them

Cheers Rob [emoji106]

the 92A · « **Reply #33 on:** March 15, 2018, 09:59:19 pm »

Irrespective of any convoluted intentions that may surface no one in the UK who follows football could not see how offensive that is.

gray19lfc · « **Reply #34 on:** March 15, 2018, 10:02:56 pm »

Showing as out of stock. Hopefully, they've pulled it from sale.

RedSince86 · « **Reply #35 on:** March 15, 2018, 10:04:10 pm »

Quote from: Cracking Left Foot on March 15, 2018, 09:42:03 pm

The whole thing about 'oh no, it refers to the Bob Marley song' is utter bollocks. Where's the mention of Marley on the shirt? Why is it designed to look like a football shirt? Why in red? I'm sorry, but this fucking stinks.

This.

Daily Mirror are covering the story so i expect Topman will have to explain this clusterfuck tomorrow.

lobsterboy · « **Reply #36 on:** March 15, 2018, 10:10:26 pm »

Quote from: Filler. on March 15, 2018, 09:54:58 pm

Genuinely can't get my head around it at all, and hearing about the Bob Marley reference hasn't helped much either. Would be interesting for me to hear what big Marley fans have to say about it. Originally recorded in the late 60's I believe yet unreleased at the time, and remixed/remastered and released in 1996, presumably to some fanfare? Is there a relevance to 1996 and 2018 somewhere? Bizarre.

its fucking disgraceful.
Email sent.

stevensr123 · « **Reply #37 on:** March 15, 2018, 10:15:51 pm »

No fucking way is that a bob Marley reference, no fucking way.

Im shocked

red vinyl · « **Reply #38 on:** March 15, 2018, 10:24:35 pm »

It looks like it’s been pulled from sale both in the UK and the US online.

24/7 · « **Reply #39 on:** March 15, 2018, 10:24:37 pm »

Quote from: BarryCrocker on March 15, 2018, 09:52:57 pm

Brought to you by this lovely creature.

"The size of the humble pie I'm about to eat is THIS BIG!"

or

"The amount of fucks I give about this are this many!"

You decide.