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Re: Manchester United appoint Oín 4skingollum Ar-Sakalthôr
« Reply #24880 on: April 3, 2019, 09:03:11 am »
Ole is becoming a bit of a cliché manager "the united way", "this club " "I spoke to sir alex", lots of references to the glorious past, plenty of cheer leading, no real substance though after the initial freedom once the not so special one left. If you put the top 6 managers in a group, he sticks out as a novice with no managerial credibility.
Big job in the summer, their best 2 players in Dea Gea and Pogba clearly don't want to be there.

I was thinking same. He's far too positive and says same things over and over again. Those will wear thin with that group. They gave him a contract too soon which is why their rivals were happy with the appointment.
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Re: Manchester United appoint Oín 4skingollum Ar-Sakalthôr
« Reply #24881 on: April 3, 2019, 09:03:43 am »
Ole is becoming a bit of a cliché manager "the united way", "this club " "I spoke to sir alex", lots of references to the glorious past, plenty of cheer leading, no real substance though after the initial freedom once the not so special one left. If you put the top 6 managers in a group, he sticks out as a novice with no managerial credibility.
Big job in the summer, their best 2 players in Dea Gea and Pogba clearly don't want to be there.
I really can't fathom how the United hierarchy reasons.
I mean, shouldn't they be aware of the new manager bounce? I mean everyone knows this and at a football club - during the recruitment and monitoring phase, this should be a well-known fact backed up by statistical research? It should be one of those things that's a given and therefore would not contribute towards your employment.

Why jump the gun like this anyway - and appoint the man before a rigorous end of season review? It's almost like they just decided- "Fuck it- let's get this one annoying thing out of the way quickly. There ya go!. Next!!.."

It's like they've got children running that club.... or a bunch of clowns! ;D

Ferguson made all the decisions for years. Never had to know anything about Football and never saw the need to. As long as their wallets were bulging with cash, they didn't want to know. Now he's gone, they "gi't over to Ed!", who makes the footballing decisions himself- aka Christian Purslow and it's just one calamity after the other. One impulsive, fan-like decision after another.

Glad we have someone like Henry- who realizes his limits and appoints people who know more about certain things, including Football, than him- and he just signs the cheques.
For all the doubt in a "Liverpool Way"(there definitely is one and United embraced some of it ;D )- one thing that I am extremely grateful for - and I think many of us are- is the fact that one of the "truths" we cling to, having come straight from the lips of Shanks himself: 'At a football club, there's a holy trinity - the players, the manager and the supporters. Directors don't come into it. They are only there to sign the cheques.'
GMs/CEOs certainly fall into the category of "Directors".

Ignore that and we're getting out the pitchforks! Even if we forget, it will come back if the hierarchy shows disdain for it. We recognize that that is one of the ingredients of success at a Football club and if it's ignored, we're almost certain not to make it.
Moores had his faults, but he stuck to just signing the cheques! Henry just signes the checques- He's left Footballing decisions to Football people.
Only once has this truth been despised by our club (against our will of course) and that was when Purslow was put in charge of our club- and we recognized it and acted accordingly. And we hated it!

United as a whole- does not seem to be aware of something like that or to be opposed to alternative; and long may it continue!
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In such a sumptuous festival of shite, I wouldn't be so quick to pick a winner..

But he'd make the shortlist

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Re: Manchester United appoint Oín 4skingollum Ar-Sakalthôr
« Reply #24882 on: April 3, 2019, 09:11:05 am »
They will start lobbing money at it. I hope they do it without a plan like they have been doing.

They've been lobbing money at it since Ferguson left, their recruitment since he retired has been abysmal.

You could count on one hand (a standard human hand, not a Manchester hand) the amount of successful transfers in recent years.

This man needs to keep his job for as long as possible...


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Re: Manchester United appoint Oín 4skingollum Ar-Sakalthôr
« Reply #24883 on: April 3, 2019, 09:19:04 am »
The problem for you is that a draw for united against city won’t be enough, they’ll need to go for the win, they won’t be able to park the bus like they did against you, and city will pick them off with ease.


Its OK, Fergie will have his tactics spot on for that game.  :)

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Re: Manchester United appoint Oín 4skingollum Ar-Sakalthôr
« Reply #24884 on: April 3, 2019, 09:39:51 am »
The problem for you is that a draw for united against city won’t be enough, they’ll need to go for the win, they won’t be able to park the bus like they did against you, and city will pick them off with ease.

I'm banking on the United Way mate- "Fergie time", the refs, the United-centric media, the crowd getting on their backs, their stellar derby record.
United really do like a war of attrition when it comes to derbies and big matches(Liverpool, Arsenal and City). They'll drag 'em into the mud.
City themselves will be in the midst of a fixture every 3/4 days and they'll be half-knackered.

I bet you- they will bring City down to their level- get the knuckle dusters on, drag 'em into the alley and beat them senseless. It's the United Way.
One thing you can bank on is they will be up for it. One way or the other.
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"Some listen to understand. Others listen to respond."
"A fool does not delight in understanding, but only in revealing his own mind."
In such a sumptuous festival of shite, I wouldn't be so quick to pick a winner..

But he'd make the shortlist

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« Reply #24885 on: April 3, 2019, 09:49:18 am »
No way we can count on these to do us a favour. They have sharply reverted to type. Hilarious that they give him a permanent contract.

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Re: Manchester United appoint Oín 4skingollum Ar-Sakalthôr
« Reply #24886 on: April 3, 2019, 09:51:55 am »
I'm banking on the United Way mate- "Fergie time", the refs, the United-centric media, the crowd getting on their backs, their stellar derby record.
United really do like a war of attrition when it comes to derbies and big matches(Liverpool, Arsenal and City). They'll drag 'em into the mud.
City themselves will be in the midst of a fixture every 3/4 days and they'll be half-knackered.

I bet you- they will bring City down to their level- get the knuckle dusters on, drag 'em into the alley and beat them senseless. It's the United Way.
One thing you can bank on is they will be up for it. One way or the other.

They won't be cutting the Old Trafford grass for a week or two, so that should help.
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« Reply #24887 on: April 3, 2019, 10:15:17 am »
I'm still pinching myself that they gave Solskjaer a 3 year deal. The complete lack of direction or any semblance of a long term plan is astonishing for a club that size.
The fact that Ole won't rock the boat too much as he's a company man, was obviously quite appealing to the board, which is not a great sign and suggests their priorities are now more commercial related than football related. It'll be interesting to see how their summer business goes. Without CL football, they could struggle to attract anything but ageing mercenaries and young unproven potential. Pogba will continue to be a problem as his agent engineers constant transfer dramas to keep his player's name in the papers.

With every managerial appointment they make, the hole they're in just gets deeper. I honestly didn't think 6 years post Fergie, they'd still be fumbling around and winging it from one manager to the next without a DoF.

Fergie dynasty option - fail
Experience option - fail
Best CV option - fail
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Re: Manchester United appoint Oín 4skingollum Ar-Sakalthôr
« Reply #24888 on: April 3, 2019, 10:17:20 am »
Andy Tate yet again. New manager is in and now they need 4 or 5 players. He's like a broken record since 2013.

November time it's Woodward's fault for not getting Poch.

Post match you can see OGS just looks out of place. "On another day we win 3 - 0"
It's not just him. It's all of them. A few weeks ago, their squad was better than ours. Now after listening to them gurn post Wolves, the squad needs gutting, and Ole needs to bring in at least 6 players.

I honestly think appointing him when they did is the most shocking and desperate thing I've seen them do in their entire history. I mean that. It's worse than the Hodge for us. He's like a primary school teacher that's a bit soft in the head, and eventually the kids will start to run amok and rule over him. Give him 200 million (at least) in the summer, and he'll do horrendous damage to them.
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Re: Manchester United appoint Oín 4skingollum Ar-Sakalthôr
« Reply #24889 on: April 3, 2019, 10:28:47 am »
Imagine hearing your manager saying something like that? Just think about that comment for a moment.. - especially this part- "we don't have room for many losses". Just let that sink in for a moment.

This job is way over his head.
He probably said they don't have room for many losses because they are already writing the City game off as a loss

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Re: Manchester United appoint Oín 4skingollum Ar-Sakalthôr
« Reply #24890 on: April 3, 2019, 10:29:01 am »
. Give him 200 million (at least) in the summer, and he'll do horrendous damage to them.
The mad thing is they started spinning their transfer targets, and it's basically spunking £100m on Jadon Sancho, rather than spending that money on a pair of decent centre backs. It's like they haven't learned anything at all.

If Woodward was our CEO he'd have let City buy Virgil and spent the Allison money on Callum Wilson or someone similar.
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Re: Manchester United appoint Oín 4skingollum Ar-Sakalthôr
« Reply #24891 on: April 3, 2019, 10:31:55 am »
Ole is becoming a bit of a cliché manager "the united way", "this club " "I spoke to sir alex", lots of references to the glorious past, plenty of cheer leading, no real substance though after the initial freedom once the not so special one left. If you put the top 6 managers in a group, he sticks out as a novice with no managerial credibility.
Big job in the summer, their best 2 players in Dea Gea and Pogba clearly don't want to be there.
Yeah, and dickheads in the media, especially certain pundits like Jenas and Keown couldn't help pop their dicks out and have a little wank over them each time they got on one of their games. "They're like street fighters.!" "What is it, Martin> Why are they so good now?" "Well, that's a brilliant question. I just think Ole lets them express themselves. It's one on one. Express themselves..."

Yeah, "express themselves" that was a favourite of theirs for about 2 weeks. A bit like Carragher's shameless, almost fangirl like obsession of his favourite boy band member Eden Hazard, when he was the best player on the planet for about a week and a half back when he scored a goal against us.  Even with all those massive trophies their previous two managers had won in their careers, here comes Ole with "express themselves" in interviews, and everyone swoons over it like it was some secret recipe for success. Fuckin unreal.

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« Reply #24892 on: April 3, 2019, 10:33:35 am »
Yep. Beyond all the jokes and the PR, it seems the reality might simply be that they have appointed Solskjaer because he is ego-less and is willing to let Phelan do all the on-field work and let Ferguson interfere from above. No other manager; no manager with pride or a high estimate of his own worth or ability would allow an ex-legendary manager to interfere in the way he does things. Ole, however, seems like he'll put up with it and not rock the boat.
You think ? I grew up with a few lads who were destined for the top and believe me they are not ego-less. I think the nice guy (as in let them off the leash and all will be OK) persona will crack, he will have to confront the egos in his side and they will not be bothered about his past victories, he will be stabbed in the back like all the managers since Red Nose.

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Re: Manchester United appoint Oín 4skingollum Ar-Sakalthôr
« Reply #24893 on: April 3, 2019, 10:33:57 am »
Ole is becoming a bit of a cliché manager "the united way", "this club " "I spoke to sir alex", lots of references to the glorious past, plenty of cheer leading, no real substance though after the initial freedom once the not so special one left. If you put the top 6 managers in a group, he sticks out as a novice with no managerial credibility.
Big job in the summer, their best 2 players in Dea Gea and Pogba clearly don't want to be there.

Did I just hear correctly? But Pogba opted to leave their game against Burnley in a chauffer driven Bentley instead of the team bus?! Apparently the corby trouser press deconstructor was fuming.

Holy fuck if so... They're in trouble.
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« Reply #24894 on: April 3, 2019, 10:42:44 am »
They've been lobbing money at it since Ferguson left, their recruitment since he retired has been abysmal.

You could count on one hand (a standard human hand, not a Manchester hand) the amount of successful transfers in recent years.

This man needs to keep his job for as long as possible...



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« Reply #24895 on: April 3, 2019, 10:44:54 am »
Jadon Sancho will fix everything for them next season.  ::)
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« Reply #24896 on: April 3, 2019, 10:51:14 am »
Had a peak at redcafe.net
Comedy!

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Re: Manchester United appoint Oín 4skingollum Ar-Sakalthôr
« Reply #24897 on: April 3, 2019, 10:51:56 am »
Does Sancho have a good dab and is he social media savvy, because if not he won't be going.

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« Reply #24898 on: April 3, 2019, 11:31:15 am »
Had a peak at redcafe.net
Comedy!
Had a look on there but had to stop, as I was getting depressed myself haha.

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Re: Manchester United appoint Oín 4skingollum Ar-Sakalthôr
« Reply #24899 on: April 3, 2019, 11:32:06 am »
Arsenal’s run in looks trickier than I thought. Only 2 at home and 5 away I think. How’s that happened? Unless Sky had the graphics wrong last night. Few tricky aways for them.

Didn’t realise United and Chelsea still to play each other, one could effectively knock the other out there but a draw would be a nightmare for both.

I thought it was because Spurs asked to play away games at the start of the season as they expected their new stadium to be ready in September/October. Worked out well didn't it.
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« Reply #24900 on: April 3, 2019, 11:32:49 am »
Did I just hear correctly? But Pogba opted to leave their game against Burnley in a chauffer driven Bentley instead of the team bus?! Apparently the corby trouser press deconstructor was fuming.

Holy fuck if so... They're in trouble.

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Re: Manchester United appoint Oín 4skingollum Ar-Sakalthôr
« Reply #24901 on: April 3, 2019, 11:37:40 am »
Does Sancho have a good dab and is he social media savvy, because if not he won't be going.

he would definitely need to up his social media game. His instagram and twitter is pretty much full of photos and clips of actual football stuff and not a lot else.

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« Reply #24902 on: April 3, 2019, 11:45:25 am »
The OGS thing has been really awkward for them. It's hard to argue that he (or Phelan) have had a fantastic impact, but it still seems too big a job for him. The timing of the announcement makes no sense, they should have waited til the end of the season and based it on whether they finished top 4 and in the process kept the players guessing as I think that has helped their performance level. The signs have been there in recent weeks that they are reverting to Mourinho levels in which case they needed to cut OGS loose.

Their CL games against Barcelona could be Arsenal-Bayern levels of embarrassing. But them going out at this stage can only help us, since it would make them 100% focus on the league (and City). As long as they don't completely fuck it up by then.

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« Reply #24903 on: April 3, 2019, 12:11:16 pm »
The OGS thing has been really awkward for them.
From where I'm sitting (outside of giving a fuck about them, that is), I would have thought keeping him hungry for the job until the season is over and the results could speak for themselves would have been far more sensible. They would have been giving themselves a bigger picture to judge from, and left themselves open to seeing who might offer a few percent improvement over him. Instead of the mainly sentimental element of his appointment. Funny that we now refer to him with Gollum in the name, as that is what I always think of old Davey Moyesiah as. If they had ring fenced Davey's backroom staff decisions like they have this ones, he might have not faciltated the glorious decline.
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Re: Manchester United appoint Oín 4skingollum Ar-Sakalthôr
« Reply #24904 on: April 3, 2019, 12:11:28 pm »
I didn't know these were playing tonight until I saw the goals on the news.  :D



I'm so glad they gave it Oleh.
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« Reply #24905 on: April 3, 2019, 12:13:58 pm »
Ed Woodward
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« Reply #24906 on: April 3, 2019, 12:28:41 pm »
After having watched them lately against us, two games against Wolves and a bit against Watford last Saturday, I don't think there is a great chance of them getting anything in the derby. Crystal Palace or even Spurs have more of a chance to get something.
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« Reply #24907 on: April 3, 2019, 12:46:18 pm »
From where I'm sitting (outside of giving a fuck about them, that is), I would have thought keeping him hungry for the job until the season is over and the results could speak for themselves would have been far more sensible. They would have been giving themselves a bigger picture to judge from, and left themselves open to seeing who might offer a few percent improvement over him. Instead of the mainly sentimental element of his appointment. Funny that we now refer to him with Gollum in the name, as that is what I always think of old Davey Moyesiah as. If they had ring fenced Davey's backroom staff decisions like they have this ones, he might have not faciltated the glorious decline.

David Squires in the Guardian summed it up nicely:
https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2019/apr/02/david-squires-on-liverpool-spurs-solskjaer-and-warnock


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« Reply #24908 on: April 3, 2019, 12:56:37 pm »
After having watched them lately against us, two games against Wolves and a bit against Watford last Saturday, I don't think there is a great chance of them getting anything in the derby. Crystal Palace or even Spurs have more of a chance to get something.

At home I'd say they could get a draw.

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« Reply #24909 on: April 3, 2019, 01:06:10 pm »
Ole is out of his depth.

He can't swim and he's left his armbands at The Lowry.

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« Reply #24910 on: April 3, 2019, 01:10:25 pm »
The only reason they appointed him is because their preferred targets were unavailable (Zidane turned them down) or the gloss had cracked a bit (Pochettino supervising Spurs's meltdown - why buy him out of an expensive contract if he doesn't guarantee winning?) And how could they enter the transfer market without a manager in place? This all comes back to his being the compromise they didn't think they'd have to make.

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« Reply #24911 on: April 3, 2019, 01:43:12 pm »
Has Sanchez retired yet? gone back right up in my estimation he has, half a million a week to feed his dogs, all is forgiven.

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« Reply #24912 on: April 3, 2019, 01:54:22 pm »
United will have to go for a result against City; the media focus on the game will be even more intense than last season, they need 3 points if they are to have any hope of CL qualification...and on top of that this is the kind of game that Pogba et al will raise their game for (essentially a shop window for their 'talent'/potential moves next summer). Solksjaer being a Ferguson acolyte will be spouting all the 'noisy neighbours' shite, and their fans will want to spoil the City party.

I also believe that the current congestion between 3rd and 6th can only be a good thing....I can't see any negatives?
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Re: Manchester United appoint Oín 4skingollum Ar-Sakalthôr
« Reply #24913 on: April 3, 2019, 02:13:34 pm »
"Jürgen Klopp is bringing Liverpool's 'fuck you' back. And I can't wait."

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Re: Manchester United appoint Oín 4skingollum Ar-Sakalthôr
« Reply #24914 on: April 3, 2019, 02:18:04 pm »
That is genuine
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Re: Manchester United appoint Oín 4skingollum Ar-Sakalthôr
« Reply #24915 on: April 3, 2019, 02:20:53 pm »
That is genuine

sorry, it looked too funny to be true :lmao
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Re: Manchester United appoint Oín 4skingollum Ar-Sakalthôr
« Reply #24916 on: April 3, 2019, 02:22:39 pm »
sorry, it looked too funny to be true :lmao

A Photoshopper would never have gone that far with it.  ;D
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Re: Manchester United appoint Oín 4skingollum Ar-Sakalthôr
« Reply #24917 on: April 3, 2019, 02:59:35 pm »
Phil's gurning yesterday in slow mo in all its glory. Enjoy lads  ;D

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Edit: I can't stop watching it. The music really elevates it  :lmao
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Re: Manchester United appoint Oín 4skingollum Ar-Sakalthôr
« Reply #24918 on: April 3, 2019, 03:02:13 pm »
Phil's gurning yesterday in slow mo in all its glory. Enjoy lads  ;D

https://twitter.com/2sporten/status/1113397348397404160
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Re: Manchester United appoint Oín 4skingollum Ar-Sakalthôr
« Reply #24919 on: April 3, 2019, 03:05:42 pm »
He'll never beat this