Topic: Premier League Fixtures - 22nd - 23rd -- 25th April.

[jillcwhomever]

No, you wouldn't, because you still concede too many goals. The fact that Spurs are where they are is because they have one of the best  attacks in the league, combined with the best defence. Having your attacking players miss less games from injury wouldn't change the fact that in many games you have to score three because you concede two, and having to outscore your opponents every week does not lead to success, because attacking players, like Mane and Coutinho, as good as they can be, will always have off days. That is why you need to be able to grind out 1 nil wins, and Liverpool can't do that enough.

So until you get tighter at the back, challenging for the league won't happen. That should be Klopp's absolute priority in the summer.

Klopp is an attacking manager and he always will be. While I agree we need to improve our defence, he may possibly tweak the system a bit next season, so we are not as stretched as what we've sometimes been this season. I am pretty sure he will be looking at some defensive signings.

But he has always set his teams up to attack first and foremost. If you actually look at our scorers we share the burden among the team, which means we don't have to rely on just one player, to get the goals. I actually think we will also buy a goal scorer as well, so we have a different option to come off the bench, especially should Sturridge leave. It is about conditioning the players better as well, and the more they play his system, the more they will get used to it, and an improvement will come. But our front four is among the best attacking options in the league, there were few teams that could live with it, at the start of the season. This was Klopp's first full season, we will be better equipped to deal with things next season. 

[Cliff Bastin]

This, this & this.

If we ever want to win the league or even compete, we better hope we be in the CL for a couple of years then we pray we become something like Spurs.

If we had a system in place like Spurs, then missing on the CL is not a big deal, for us, it is a make or break because missing out on it will mean staying in the same cycle for another year at the very least.

So stay as you are not winning anything? As that is what Spurs do.

[My Original Username Back]

So stay as you are not winning anything? As that is what Spurs do.

That's harsh. Spurs are getting closer to winning something, that much is obvious. This team is only 2 - 3 years in it's development, without the luxury of spending 150 million on proven top tier players every summer.

[ggcc14]

That's harsh. Spurs are getting closer to winning something, that much is obvious. This team is only 2 - 3 years in it's development, without the luxury of spending 150 million on proven top tier players every summer.

You made an FA cup semi final woop de doo.. Liverpool made it to two finals last year. You aren't close to winning shit and "pray we become like Spurs" is one of the most embarrasing things i've read on this forum.

Two strong domestic campaigns coupled with two absolutely dire European showings. Harry Kane or Dele choose to leave and you are just an alright team with a decent manager. Hardly a football fans wetdream are Spurs.

Also you do realise the lack of spending was absolutely why you failed miserably in the European cup? your squad wasn't strong enough or experienced enough to make headway in a group which was really open for anyone to go and win. Instead of signing tried and tested continental standard players, you over pay on deadline day for Moussa Sissoko and sign a donkey in Janssen. Not spending huge amounts of cash and succeeding is brilliant, failing to spend and then getting knocked out of Europa by Gent is two completely different things.

[NealFrom25Yards]

Just seen that Fraser Forster this season has - by a fair distance - the worst Save % of any keeper in the history of the Premier a League (playing at least 10 games).

I knew he was having an absolute nightmare of a season...but that's a special kind of awful. Worst in 25 years.

[The North Bank]

You dont have to pray to become like Spurs, win nothing for the next 20 years and youre there.

[My Original Username Back]

You made an FA cup semi final woop de doo.. Liverpool made it to two finals last year. You aren't close to winning shit and "pray we become like Spurs" is one of the most embarrasing things i've read on this forum.

Two strong domestic campaigns coupled with two absolutely dire European showings. Harry Kane or Dele choose to leave and you are just an alright team with a decent manager. Hardly a football fans wetdream are Spurs.

Also you do realise the lack of spending was absolutely why you failed miserably in the European cup? your squad wasn't strong enough or experienced enough to make headway in a group which was really open for anyone to go and win. Instead of signing tried and tested continental standard players, you over pay on deadline day for Moussa Sissoko and sign a donkey in Janssen. Not spending huge amounts of cash and succeeding is brilliant, failing to spend and then getting knocked out of Europa by Gent is two completely different things.

Keep moaning about if one of our star players leave we are just an average team....would that be Kane? Or Eriksen? Or Alli? Or Dembele? Alderweireld? Lloris? Vertonghen? You get my point. We have quality all over the pitch mate. What happens to Liverpool if Lallana, Mane or Countinho leaves? You'd actually really be fucked.

We aren't close to winning shit? Right...but we are a lot closer than Liverpool. We are 4 points behind top spot, with 15 points to play. You sound quite bitter that no matter what Liverpool seem to do, Spurs still finish above you. Get over it.

[My Original Username Back]

You dont have to pray to become like Spurs, win nothing for the next 20 years and youre there.

Arsenal are a shambles. I'd concentrate on your own teams failings.

[The North Bank]

Arsenal are a shambles. I'd concentrate on your own teams failings.

Shambles is winning fuck all for 25 years.

[ggcc14]

Keep moaning about if one of our star players leave we are just an average team....would that be Kane? Or Eriksen? Or Alli? Or Dembele? Alderweireld? Lloris? Vertonghen? You get my point. We have quality all over the pitch mate. What happens to Liverpool if Lallana, Mane or Countinho leaves? You'd actually really be fucked.

We aren't close to winning shit? Right...but we are a lot closer than Liverpool. We are 4 points behind top spot, with 15 points to play. You sound quite bitter that no matter what Liverpool seem to do, Spurs still finish above you. Get over it.

It's not bitter towards Spurs, like North Bank says.. you win f*ck all, no one is jealous or bitter about a team who win nothing. My point was more directed at the Y2J fella who is hoping and praying we become like Spurs..

Vertoghen and Alderweirld are both decent defenders, i'd probably have them both at Liverpool. Not world beaters though and Toby especially is heavily overrated by pundits. Dembele can go from performing like an absolute powerhouse to a passenger in a matter of days, not a big fan of his at all - though he clearly has his good points. Alli and Kane are your two outstanding players and I can't see them both sticking around for their careers.

Do you not agree that your poor summer spending was a significant factor in your abject performances in Europe?

[PeterTheRed ...]

Keep moaning about if one of our star players leave we are just an average team....would that be Kane? Or Eriksen? Or Alli? Or Dembele? Alderweireld? Lloris? Vertonghen? You get my point. We have quality all over the pitch mate. What happens to Liverpool if Lallana, Mane or Countinho leaves? You'd actually really be fucked.

We aren't close to winning shit? Right...but we are a lot closer than Liverpool. We are 4 points behind top spot, with 15 points to play. You sound quite bitter that no matter what Liverpool seem to do, Spurs still finish above you. Get over it.

Until you win one of these, you will be a considered a medium sized club.

[SerbianScouser]

Do you not agree that your poor summer spending was a significant factor in your abject performances in Europe?

For me they have the worst squad in Top 7. With Lamela being injured the entire season , Dier is literally the only player in their B team they could trust and use in rotation.

Shitty back-up fullbacks, shitty back-up CBs, shitty back-up forward options. It's no wonder they don't win anything when they have to rely on only 12 players throughout the season. Pocchettino will have to perform significantly better in the market than last summer if they want to have squad good enough to win anything.

[ggcc14]

For me they have the worst squad in Top 7. With Lamela being injured the entire season , Dier is literally the only player in their B team they could trust and use in rotation.

Shitty back-up fullbacks, shitty back-up CBs, shitty back-up forward options. It's no wonder they don't win anything when they have to rely on only 12 players throughout the season. Pocchettino will have to perform significantly better in the market than last summer if they want to have squad good enough to win anything.

Trippier seems to have done well the last few weeks but you are right in general. Makes the decision to let Bentaleb go out on loan all the more confusing.

[My Original Username Back]

It's not bitter towards Spurs, like North Bank says.. you win f*ck all, no one is jealous or bitter about a team who win nothing. My point was more directed at the Y2J fella who is hoping and praying we become like Spurs..

Vertoghen and Alderweirld are both decent defenders, i'd probably have them both at Liverpool. Not world beaters though and Toby especially is heavily overrated by pundits. Dembele can go from performing like an absolute powerhouse to a passenger in a matter of days, not a big fan of his at all - though he clearly has his good points. Alli and Kane are your two outstanding players and I can't see them both sticking around for their careers.

Do you not agree that your poor summer spending was a significant factor in your abject performances in Europe?

You are clueless. Alderweireld and Vertonghen are more than decent you lunatic. Alderweireld is the best CB in the league by a country mile. Vertonghen has had a superb season, just have a look at our defensive stats if you need some help.

To say you'd probably have them at Liverpool is quite hilarious. They walk into your side.

Look it's ok, you can keep repeating we win fuck all, but the fact is we are more likely than Liverpool to win something at the present time. Remind me what silverware you are currently going for?

And no, our poor european performances were due to us getting used to playing at Wembley, and having some key injuries at bad times.

[My Original Username Back]

For me they have the worst squad in Top 7. With Lamela being injured the entire season , Dier is literally the only player in their B team they could trust and use in rotation.

Shitty back-up fullbacks, shitty back-up CBs, shitty back-up forward options. It's no wonder they don't win anything when they have to rely on only 12 players throughout the season. Pocchettino will have to perform significantly better in the market than last summer if they want to have squad good enough to win anything.

Yeah yeah of course. Our squad is so weak, Our back up fullbacks in Davies and Tripper are so bad, actually no they are the best back up fullbacks in the league. Just like we have the best first choice fullbacks in the league. How any top sides do you know who can swap out players so effortlessly and still win games? I'll tell you, it's just Spurs. 

[Chris~]

You are clueless. Alderweireld and Vertonghen are more than decent you lunatic. Alderweireld is the best CB in the league by a country mile. Vertonghen has had a superb season, just have a look at our defensive stats if you need some help.

To say you'd probably have them at Liverpool is quite hilarious. They walk into your side.

Look it's ok, you can keep repeating we win fuck all, but the fact is we are more likely than Liverpool to win something at the present time. Remind me what silverware you are currently going for?

And no, our poor european performances were due to us getting used to playing at Wembley, and having some key injuries at bad times.

Lost to Gent being blamed on a stadium 


Also which is it?

our poor european performances were due to us getting used to playing at Wembley, and having some key injuries at bad times.

How any top sides do you know who can swap out players so effortlessly and still win games? I'll tell you, it's just Spurs. 

[Tesco tearaway]

You dont have to pray to become like Spurs, win nothing for the next 20 years and youre there.

So Everton are already as good as Spurs? 

[idontknow]

So Everton are already as good as Spurs? 

Everton have actually won some stuff.

Spurs best manager was Keith Burkinshaw but Spurs fans never mention him. I have no idea what he did, but it must have been very bad.

Among Spurs' other alumni managers, George 'Bag-for-Life' Graham, David Pleat aka The Commentator, Terry 'I'm not Harry' Venables, Christian Gross, Villas-Boas 'The Schoolboy', Harry 'Rosie, Queen of Corona' Redknapp, and had Alan 'I've sold shoddy shit all me life and wrangled a peerage out of it' Sugar.

That is what Spurs have been for many many decades, and a few good seasons funded by Joe Lewis doesn't alter that. One good manager in 20 odd years and they think they're pulling Excalibur free. They're not. They're just Spurs on a roll. But when you're rolling, you're gonna go downhill.

Still they better beat Utd though, so I suppose they better beat Arsenal too, and it would be funny if they won the league, especially if Arsenal won the Cup.

[Barneylfc∗]

This team is only 2 - 3 years in it's development

Spurs have been slowly building this for over a decade.

It's taken over a decade to get a team that is only 2-3 years in its development?

[deFacto please, you bastards]

You are clueless. Alderweireld and Vertonghen are more than decent you lunatic. Alderweireld is the best CB in the league by a country mile. Vertonghen has had a superb season, just have a look at our defensive stats if you need some help.

To say you'd probably have them at Liverpool is quite hilarious. They walk into your side.

Look it's ok, you can keep repeating we win fuck all, but the fact is we are more likely than Liverpool to win something at the present time. Remind me what silverware you are currently going for?

And no, our poor european performances were due to us getting used to playing at Wembley, and having some key injuries at bad times.

What trophies are you going for? remind me again? When was the last time you got to a cup final at least?

so you've been building a side for a decade that is in 2/3 years of its development?

Fucking wow.


Are you sure you don't support Everton? You fit all the characteristics of a bitter.

[coolbyrne]

You are clueless. Alderweireld and Vertonghen are more than decent you lunatic. Alderweireld is the best CB in the league by a country mile. Vertonghen has had a superb season, just have a look at our defensive stats if you need some help.

To say you'd probably have them at Liverpool is quite hilarious. They walk into your side.

Look it's ok, you can keep repeating we win fuck all, but the fact is we are more likely than Liverpool to win something at the present time. Remind me what silverware you are currently going for?

And no, our poor european performances were due to us getting used to playing at Wembley, and having some key injuries at bad times.

6th place team in the Belgian league and you're blaming it on the stadium? Christ, now I've heard everything.

Key injuries? I thought only Spurs could swap out players so effortlessly and still win games? Besides, you had Anderweireld, Kane, Eriksen, Vertonghen, Dembele and Alli all starting the Gent match. Of course, Alli didn't do the team any favours by getting the red card before a half was over. Perhaps that might have had something to do with it.

And be careful claiming a higher league position than Liverpool while not winning anything- Everton fans will fight you to the death for a "Finish above the Red Shite" trophy.

[Caligula?]

And Primativ is exactly the reason why I've been saying fuck Spurs and Chelsea for the title all the way. The little shits have had 2-3 good seasons now - and still won fuck all - and suddenly they think they're the Brazil of 1970. At least Chelsea have been winning trophies regularly for the better part of a decade now. I'm immune to it. Imagine if Tottenham won the title. No, just no. Hope Arsenal smash them to bits and get a draw on Sunday. 

[Peabee]

You are clueless. Alderweireld and Vertonghen are more than decent you lunatic. Alderweireld is the best CB in the league by a country mile. Vertonghen has had a superb season, just have a look at our defensive stats if you need some help.

To say you'd probably have them at Liverpool is quite hilarious. They walk into your side.

Look it's ok, you can keep repeating we win fuck all, but the fact is we are more likely than Liverpool to win something at the present time. Remind me what silverware you are currently going for?

And no, our poor european performances were due to us getting used to playing at Wembley, and having some key injuries at bad times.

You've still won fuck all; for a long long time too. 

[Tommy_W]

And Primativ is exactly the reason why I've been saying fuck Spurs and Chelsea for the title all the way. The little shits have had 2-3 good seasons now - and still won fuck all - and suddenly they think they're the Brazil of 1970.

I wouldn't say Primativ is remotely representative of Spurs fans to be honest. All the Spurs fans I know are pretty self deprecating  

I'd be willing to bet Primativ and Glastonspur over on Redcafe have never been seen in the same place at the same time mind...

[ggcc14]

Look it's ok, you can keep repeating we win fuck all, but the fact is we are more likely than Liverpool to win something at the present time. Remind me what silverware you are currently going for?

I have more chance of running for Primeminister than my cat too.

Lack of spending isn't why you failed in Europe but having a wafer thin squad and suffering injuries is why? DERP

[ggcc14]

Another Saturday of utterly wank Premier League games, great.

[Andy @ Allerton!]

All the cockernees arguing with each other on here

[EstonianRed]

Another Saturday of utterly wank Premier League games, great.

Yep, sunday is super important to us, today is just so fucking dire

[Andy @ Allerton!]

Another Saturday of utterly wank Premier League games, great.

It's astonishing how such a poor set of fixtures could come about.

This is the fault of the broadcasters making Mega-weekend bull.

[Greatness]

Utterly tedious argument both sides have won fuck all in the last decade, let someone actually win something because frankly its another trophyless season for us and Spurs at the end of the day. Nothing to boast about on either end.

[jillcwhomever]

It's astonishing how such a poor set of fixtures could come about.

This is the fault of the broadcasters making Mega-weekend bull.

Totally agree, let's take all the big boys out and put them on one day, then we wonder why the other day is so underwheming. It is just crazy.

[jillcwhomever]

I wouldn't say Primativ is remotely representative of Spurs fans to be honest. All the Spurs fans I know are pretty self deprecating  

I'd be willing to bet Primativ and Glastonspur over on Redcafe have never been seen in the same place at the same time mind...

You need to have a word with him Tommy. Tell him to act like a proper Spurs fan.

[Cliff Bastin]

That's harsh. Spurs are getting closer to winning something, that much is obvious. This team is only 2 - 3 years in it's development, without the luxury of spending 150 million on proven top tier players every summer.

As Yoda said do or do not, there is no try. Pretty much the same with Everton and Newcastle. Two clubs who have embarrassing records for not winning anything for so long.

[swoopy]

Middlesbrough v Man City was supposed to be 3pm today... but moved only a few weeks ago to Sunday so the broadcasters could schedule the Manchester Derby on the Thursday

[Caligula?]

I wouldn't say Primativ is remotely representative of Spurs fans to be honest. All the Spurs fans I know are pretty self deprecating  

I'd be willing to bet Primativ and Glastonspur over on Redcafe have never been seen in the same place at the same time mind...

I wouldn't mind you winning it if more Spurs fans were like yourself. 

But Primativ and that chap at Anfield in 2014 when we beat you 4-0 and was caught on camera saying "They'll win fuck all" are partially why I'm still sticking with Chelsea for the league. Sorry mate. 

[sms1986]

Middlesbrough v Man City was supposed to be 3pm today... but moved only a few weeks ago to Sunday so the broadcasters could schedule the Manchester Derby on the Thursday

You do know they have limited space for matches to be played, right?