Author Topic: Hillsborough Documentary on now. (Read 17195 times)

KiNki · « **on:** May 8, 2016, 09:05:12 pm »

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/hillsborough-documentary-whole-country-needs-11295738

It's on now. BBC 2.

Funky_Gibbons · « **Reply #1 on:** May 8, 2016, 09:45:05 pm »

This is incredibly moving.

Shambles.....with a capital S! · « **Reply #2 on:** May 8, 2016, 09:48:28 pm »

This is a seriously hard watch for obvious reasons but the whole country needs to watch.

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conman · « **Reply #3 on:** May 8, 2016, 09:49:33 pm »

It's incredible emotional and difficult to watch. It's essential viewing though and i hope as many people see it as possible

TepidT2O · « **Reply #4 on:** May 8, 2016, 10:09:46 pm »

Dreadfully harrowing...

You poor people who had to experience this ....

I don't have the words to describe how I feel, let alone you....

SyukriJ · « **Reply #5 on:** May 8, 2016, 10:23:05 pm »

I am literally in tears watching this. You know the story but to go through this is just heart breaking. I can't imagine what the families are going through over the last 27 years #JFT96

stockdam · « **Reply #6 on:** May 8, 2016, 10:39:57 pm »

It's difficult to watch but very well done. Very emotional.

FlashGordon · « **Reply #7 on:** May 8, 2016, 10:46:25 pm »

Heartbraking. The families are such an inspiration.

Trada · « **Reply #8 on:** May 8, 2016, 11:04:26 pm »

Prof Phil Scraton..

"People said they wanted the truth warts and all"

"There was no warts just the truth"

Barneylfc∗ · « **Reply #9 on:** May 8, 2016, 11:06:41 pm »

As I posted in the other thread

Quote from: Dear Henry on May 8, 2016, 11:04:49 pm

Mr Scraton, if I could be informal for a moment - You are a fucking hero.

I don't think I've ever been so angry so many times in the space of 2 hours

Trada · « **Reply #10 on:** May 8, 2016, 11:07:38 pm »

Justice delayed is justice denied.

Crosby Nick · « **Reply #11 on:** May 8, 2016, 11:25:35 pm »

Some of that footage I hadn't seen before. Shocking. Watched it with my wife who has very little interest in football but glad she could see it for what it was far better than I've ever been able to explain it.

Thank you Professor Scraton.

Hymer Red · « **Reply #12 on:** May 8, 2016, 11:30:57 pm »

Just sat and watched and have been through just about every emotion possible from shock to anger and everything in between but left in awe of the families and Professor Scraton without them we would be no closer to the truth.

Now its time for them who put the families through 27 years of hell to go to jail. Sooner the better!

Anfield Kopite · « **Reply #13 on:** May 8, 2016, 11:33:18 pm »

Said it before and i will say it again. Thankyou Prof.

FlashGordon · « **Reply #14 on:** May 8, 2016, 11:39:46 pm »

Through my own ignorance I never really realised the massive role played by Prof. Scraton. Thank you for always believing and never wavering in that belief.

Barneylfc∗ · « **Reply #15 on:** May 8, 2016, 11:41:43 pm »

Quote from: Red85 on May 8, 2016, 11:39:46 pm

Through my own ignorance I never really realised the massive role played by Prof. Scraton. Thank you for always believing and never wavering in that belief.

A vital cog in the wheel. Don't think we'd have ever got justice if it wasn't for him.

That's not to downplay the role of others mind you.

Mutton Geoff · « **Reply #16 on:** May 8, 2016, 11:45:22 pm »

Quote from: Hymer Red on May 8, 2016, 11:30:57 pm

Just sat and watched and have been through just about every emotion possible from shock to anger and everything in between but left in awe of the families and Professor Scraton without them we would be no closer to the truth.

Now its time for them who put the families through 27 years of hell to go to jail. Sooner the better!

Basically you said everything i was going to post , need to just add that i must admit i felt for that officer as well, its the senior ranks who i detest not bobbies like him and the others they featured, as for Middup what a stain on humanity .

plasterered · « **Reply #17 on:** May 8, 2016, 11:47:49 pm »

A lie with no evidence beleived for years yet the hard truth with evidence to back it up was dismissed for so so many years really gets to me.
How this can be so in this 21st century "Great" Britain is disgusting.

I just get so angry every time i see or read something this notion never goes away.

Phil Scraton - immense

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Ray K · « **Reply #18 on:** May 8, 2016, 11:52:20 pm »

I watched it about a year ago on the Netflix US site, so was very glad to see the new ending following the inquests. All credit to Daniel Gordon for telling the story truthfully and sensitively.

Prof Phil Scraton is one of the greatest people in Liverpool's history.

Cracking Left Foot · « **Reply #19 on:** May 9, 2016, 12:03:18 am »

There are no words to describe what a hero Phil Scraton is. That was a very raw, very powerful documentary that everyone should watch.

terrible suits · « **Reply #20 on:** May 9, 2016, 12:10:14 am »

Quote from: Ray K on May 8, 2016, 11:52:20 pm

Prof Phil Scraton is one of the greatest people in history.

Looks like you made a little mistake in your post.

I fixed it for you, though

Yiannis · « **Reply #21 on:** May 9, 2016, 12:14:51 am »

Incredibly painful to watch and a roller coaster of emotions. Second time I watch (because it's basically the ESPN 30 for 30 doc that was aired 2 years ago plus the reaction after the result of the new inquests) it. In tears again. I want to give a big hug to Phil Scraton and those families that suffered so much on top of the loss of their loved ones. Only admiration for your courage.

Not that you didn't know it but...

David Conn ‏@david_conn 2h2 hours ago
Hillsborough documentary: These horrific scenes, filmed by BBC, were shown repeatedly at inquests. Police in court still blaming the victims

The depth of their inhumanity, cruelty is truly bottomless. Horrible scum.

driftinwest · « **Reply #22 on:** May 9, 2016, 12:18:54 am »

I had to watch it a bit later on my pc but the emotions and anger have got me gunning for justice against those horrible bastards who have so much to answer for. I could go on but won't there's a condemn list that would go on a long time, Lets thank the BBC for the program
Justice for the 96

iAnfieldRoad · « **Reply #23 on:** May 9, 2016, 12:21:49 am »

Harrowing to say the least and what the families have went through over the last 27 years is shocking but the truth is out.We always knew the truth now the whole world does so lets hope those people who were to blame get their just desserts.YNWA

rushyman · « **Reply #24 on:** May 9, 2016, 12:29:48 am »

Emotionally shattering watching that. The anger is overwhelming.

The pure evil involved by people charged to protect us is too much to process. The sanitizers, the people hiding evidence. Made sure they lived their careers out first.

27 years. Sickening

God I hope a lot of people saw that.

RIP 96

Harinder · « **Reply #25 on:** May 9, 2016, 12:34:07 am »

Link in the Hillsborough thread for anyone abroad who couldn't see via BBC iplayer

NigelManx · « **Reply #26 on:** May 9, 2016, 12:42:05 am »

Very moving and once again brings to light what went on all through the years..Respect to all the families and Liverpool supporters through the years for their never ending fight for justice.

John C · « **Reply #27 on:** May 9, 2016, 12:43:05 am »

You avoid posting in here because you just don't know what to say. You post in other threads and think others will have their say in this thread. But it's important that we bump it. We all should have watched it. Harrowing.

Fat Scouser · « **Reply #28 on:** May 9, 2016, 12:52:16 am »

Complete and upmost respect for everybody that fought so hard for justice and to bring The Truth out.

Daniel Cabbaggio · « **Reply #29 on:** May 9, 2016, 12:59:44 am »

https://www.change.org/p/parliament-strip-bernard-ingham-of-his-knighthood

terrible suits · « **Reply #30 on:** May 9, 2016, 01:02:43 am »

http://www.terrisus.com/misc/Hillsborough.mp4

rushyman · « **Reply #31 on:** May 9, 2016, 01:04:35 am »

Quote from: Daniel Cabbaggio on May 9, 2016, 12:59:44 am

https://www.change.org/p/parliament-strip-bernard-ingham-of-his-knighthood

Bastard

And its not lost on me that Thatcher pops it and hey presto out comes the truth.

lindylou100 · « **Reply #32 on:** May 9, 2016, 05:37:19 am »

We were able to watch this in America 18 months or so ago as it ended at the point where the original inquests were quashed. I was initially skeptical as I didn't think ESPN 30 for 30 could do it justice but I think it's perhaps the best overall documentary on the subject as it not only traces the roots of the disaster through to giving a clear understanding of what happened, but the police corruption and denial of justice and the emotional impact it had. It moved a lot of people in the US who arent interested in football, the part where Tony Evans was asked if he'd robbed the dead to which he asked "would yo u do that?" answer "no" " to which he shouted "then why do you think I would do that?!" was like a punch in the gut. Same with the chants for justice for the 96 at the memorial it was just heartbreaking. Essential viewing for anyone who needs to be educated on what happened.

Millie · « **Reply #33 on:** May 9, 2016, 07:47:43 am »

Had to keep pausing it - such a hard and emotional watch.

Another day - that was not mentioned in the documentary - was the day we played Arsenal in the FA Cup - Truth Day. I truly believe that got the ball rolling in getting all the fans on board (I know many were already), and also reminded the rest of the country that Justice was still not done - after that followed the 20th Anniversary.

I echo what others have said - Phil Scraton is an absolute hero.

Frank Becton · « **Reply #34 on:** May 9, 2016, 07:57:19 am »

I was there that day, I started to watch the documentary but was a bit tired after getting back from the match yesterday, so recorded it to watch later.

To be honest after 15/20 minutes also I got a bit upset, might have to watch it bit by bit.

Alan_X · « **Reply #35 on:** May 9, 2016, 07:57:41 am »

Quote from: In Fowler We Trust on May 9, 2016, 07:47:43 am

Had to keep pausing it - such a hard and emotional watch.

Another day - that was not mentioned in the documentary - was the day we played Arsenal in the FA Cup - Truth Day. I truly believe that got the ball rolling in getting all the fans on board (I know many were already), and also reminded the rest of the country that Justice was still not done - after that followed the 20th Anniversary.

I echo what others have said - Phil Scraton is an absolute hero.

That six minutes of continuous chanting was so powerful.

only6times · « **Reply #36 on:** May 9, 2016, 08:01:46 am »

Watched it with my wife and lad who is 15. He wouldn't have been here if luck didn't get me out.

The lads on the pitch kept the death toll from beyond the many hundreds and have rightly been recognised for this.

Phil Scraton, thank you from the bottom of my heart.

Millie · « **Reply #37 on:** May 9, 2016, 08:08:25 am »

Quote from: only5times on May 9, 2016, 08:01:46 am

Watched it with my wife and lad who is 15. He wouldn't have been here if luck didn't get me out.

The lads on the pitch kept the death toll from beyond the many hundreds and have rightly been recognised for this.

Phil Scraton, thank you from the bottom of my heart.

Just so many heroes on the pitch and in the pens. Showing the police how it should be done.

storkfoot · « **Reply #38 on:** May 9, 2016, 08:09:08 am »

I couldn't bring myself to watch it. It's probably only since 2012 that I have realised that I am still traumatised by the disaster itself and my feelings of guilt in the years since.

Funky_Gibbons · « **Reply #39 on:** May 9, 2016, 08:09:56 am »

I struggled to sleep last night after watching this. Some very moving moments and Phil Scraton deserves every honour available to him after all his hard work.

Some of the stories from the police were just as harrowing, like the one who had a breakdown while sitting in his car and later found out his statement had been completely changed.