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When I was a young un I would go to my Grandads and he would play old 78 records, Al Martino, Al Jolson, The Platters, Mario Lanza and lots of others.

I dropped one once, on the hearth in front of the coal fire in the sitting room and it shattered.

He wasn't best pleased    :(
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Before I personally leave the '50's and pre Beatles '60's behind to venture into Merseybeat and early '60's territory I have to post some Billy Fury and Lonnie Donegan to mark their incredible contribution to the later evolution of pop/rock music.

Billy, because he was Britain's one truly authentic rocker. And not just because he happens to have been Scouse but because he was what it said on the tin.

Lonnie, because if he hadn't pioneered skiffle in the incredible way he did then I doubt whether many of the fuckers who've been so proudly featured on these past few pages would have seen the light of day in the guise of the great pop/rock artists they turned out to be.


Incidentally as an aside for any drummers - have a look at the all too brief Nick Nicholls solo halfway through Lonnies gamblin man link - reminds me of the criminally underrated Jerry Allison.



First the amazing Billy Fury



<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/jUbILlmvELc" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/jUbILlmvELc</a> Sound of Fury appraisal by the weird and wonderful

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And then the equally incredible Lonnie Donegan



<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/wI4nRD-DRpk" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/wI4nRD-DRpk</a> Rock Island Line



<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/jWA997xM9MI" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/jWA997xM9MI</a> Cumberland Gap



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 :)
 
Now this is a good call Lonnie was my first music hero loved a bit of Skiffle then ,still do now Timbo
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Someone mentioned Lindisfarne a few pages back too and that reminded me of another Scottish band
I'm sure Newcastle's finest are happy with this...
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I once won a bet with a mate who didn't believe Ram Jams song was a cover....and not many know that Leadbelly's song is also a cover...this is the Blues..not some white middle class kids playing a version of the blues..this is Blues.One of the most important antecedents was African American work songs. This earliest recording of Black Betty was made by John and Alan Lomax in 1933 at Central State Farm, Sugar Land, Texas. The call and response of the work gang is led by convict James Baker. The song was made popular by Leadbelly later but this, this is an important recording of a call and response field song and as I say, The Blues...is not just musical genre but...but a music born of experience, experiences that made the Blues so unique.




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Exercise is to the body what reading is to the mind.

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"Doping isn't addictive but it's an instrument of power: whoever wins attracts the money; for themselves, the team and the sponsors"

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This man is acknowledged to be the father of Delta Blues....a song about the 27 flood,fantastic version.






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Exercise is to the body what reading is to the mind.

"If I hadn't doped, I would never have won". "Doping improves your performance between 5 and 7 per cent, and maybe 10 to 12 per cent when you are in a peak shape.

"Doping isn't addictive but it's an instrument of power: whoever wins attracts the money; for themselves, the team and the sponsors"

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Another about the same flood.


<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/OdbtE9zwEQ4" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/OdbtE9zwEQ4</a>
Exercise is to the body what reading is to the mind.

"If I hadn't doped, I would never have won". "Doping improves your performance between 5 and 7 per cent, and maybe 10 to 12 per cent when you are in a peak shape.

"Doping isn't addictive but it's an instrument of power: whoever wins attracts the money; for themselves, the team and the sponsors"

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Bit more Delta Blues.....Mississippi Fred McDowel-yeah.




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Exercise is to the body what reading is to the mind.

"If I hadn't doped, I would never have won". "Doping improves your performance between 5 and 7 per cent, and maybe 10 to 12 per cent when you are in a peak shape.

"Doping isn't addictive but it's an instrument of power: whoever wins attracts the money; for themselves, the team and the sponsors"

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Y'all know this piece,this is the original version...9 string Delta Blues...Big Joe...




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Exercise is to the body what reading is to the mind.

"If I hadn't doped, I would never have won". "Doping improves your performance between 5 and 7 per cent, and maybe 10 to 12 per cent when you are in a peak shape.

"Doping isn't addictive but it's an instrument of power: whoever wins attracts the money; for themselves, the team and the sponsors"

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Such a great player and a lovely sound.





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Exercise is to the body what reading is to the mind.

"If I hadn't doped, I would never have won". "Doping improves your performance between 5 and 7 per cent, and maybe 10 to 12 per cent when you are in a peak shape.

"Doping isn't addictive but it's an instrument of power: whoever wins attracts the money; for themselves, the team and the sponsors"

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The only reason this cat isn't as lauded as say, Robert Johnson is down to the simple fact that not as much of his recordings were saved, unlike Johnson.

A great bluesician....who also taught T-Bone Walker how to play.



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Exercise is to the body what reading is to the mind.

"If I hadn't doped, I would never have won". "Doping improves your performance between 5 and 7 per cent, and maybe 10 to 12 per cent when you are in a peak shape.

"Doping isn't addictive but it's an instrument of power: whoever wins attracts the money; for themselves, the team and the sponsors"

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I always loved this one from Sergio with 66 (and the wonderful Lani on vocals, no wonder Herb married her)

Obviously their most famous one...

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/BrZBiqK0p9E?fs=1" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/BrZBiqK0p9E?fs=1</a>

(Quite why whose barbarians the black eyed peas covered this a few years ago heavens knows, it was perfect as is. I still think it was on the calculated assumption that Brazil would succeeed in the world cup and it would be picked up by all the TV stations worldwide as a theme tune for the matches)

Anyway, this is how to do a cover version...

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/VEHckjjbE8I?fs=1" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/VEHckjjbE8I?fs=1</a>

And then there's Bacharach, so many to choose from, but here's a good little number by him you may remember..

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/kcLCigVYnOU?fs=1" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/kcLCigVYnOU?fs=1</a>

It always sounded to me like it could be Lani on vocals there, but I haven't checked so not sure if it is.

I believe that the proof of a good tune is if it can be adapted for other styles, so after listening to that one above, check this variation of it out...

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/w3buJfM7-CA?fs=1" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/w3buJfM7-CA?fs=1</a>

And then there's a tad of bossanova, exemplified by the delectable if slightly enigmatic Astrud, here with the great Stan Getz..

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/_1uEy-n4IsU?fs=1" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/_1uEy-n4IsU?fs=1</a>

And there's more, (at 10.36 in this is her version of the above in Potuguese)

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/n4VqSkLmc3Q?fs=1" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/n4VqSkLmc3Q?fs=1</a>

Hmmm, nice.
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Fuckinghell.

The raw musical passion in this thread takes the breath away - from young Newky Paul to Dave's Delta Blues erudism [word/ - if not should be  ;D]. Also great that Grits has joined in the fun.

Absolute joy in every single link!!!

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Another about the same flood.


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I love listening to all the little anecdotes about the old Blues players . some amazing storys.
Stefan Grossman has had a massive influence in the world of Blues. first found out about him in the late 60s he has a massive archive of Blues music and tells many brilliant little anecdotes.
One of his mentors was the Rev Gary Davis.
Stefan was studying under Rev and went to see him one day at his home.
He was sat on his chair with a guitar on his lap and the subject of slide guitar came up.
Slide guitars cheating the rev said. see that cigar case over there pass me it.
Stefan passed him the metal cigar case and the rev took out the cigar and put it too one side and put the case on one of his fingers.
The rev started telling a story about the wild west. it's been a very long time since i heard him tell this story but it was something like a man riding into a dusty little wild west town, as he talking he's playing a little slide guitar accompaniment that gave it that wild west mood. what was so amazing was every now and then he would  tune down or tune up one of his strings without stopping playing.  it all sounded amazing and part of the song.
So he's playing random little slide licks and talking about this fella getting off his horse and hows hes parched and decides to go and get a drink at the saloon.
He walks up to the old double saloon double doors but by the time hes got to this part the Rev has completely re tuned his guitar to alternative tuning.
He walks up and pushes the double doors open and the old barrel piano music from inside the saloon greeted him.
Stephen says as soon as he said this he exploded playing slide guitar and the alternative tuning and his incredible playing made it sound just like the old fast saloon songs they played those days.
After he finished he just put down the guitar and said no I don't like playing slide guitar it's cheating.
I think we've all seen players de tune the bottom string and it's been part of the song even Hendrix liked doing it but ive never heard of anyone doing what Stefan described the rev did that day.
Am also sure Stefan described what happened far better than i ever could. it blew me away the way he told it.
Have to take what the rev says with a pinch of salt, every time I hear a brilliant slide guitarist my hair stands up.
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I love listening to all the little anecdotes about the old Blues players . some amazing storys.
Stefan Grossman has had a massive influence in the world of Blues. first found out about him in the late 60s he has a massive archive of Blues music and tells many brilliant little anecdotes.
One of his mentors was the Rev Gary Davis.
Stefan was studying under Rev and went to see him one day at his home.
He was sat on his chair with a guitar on his lap and the subject of slide guitar came up.
Slide guitars cheating the rev said. see that cigar case over there pass me it.
Stefan passed him the metal cigar case and the rev took out the cigar and put it too one side and put the case on one of his fingers.
The rev started telling a story about the wild west. it's been a very long time since i heard him tell this story but it was something like a man riding into a dusty little wild west town, as he talking he's playing a little slide guitar accompaniment that gave it that wild west mood. what was so amazing was every now and then he would  tune down or tune up one of his strings without stopping playing.  it all sounded amazing and part of the song.
So he's playing random little slide licks and talking about this fella getting off his horse and hows hes parched and decides to go and get a drink at the saloon.
He walks up to the old double saloon double doors but by the time hes got to this part the Rev has completely re tuned his guitar to alternative tuning.
He walks up and pushes the double doors open and the old barrel piano music from inside the saloon greeted him.
Stephen says as soon as he said this he exploded playing slide guitar and the alternative tuning and his incredible playing made it sound just like the old fast saloon songs they played those days.
After he finished he just put down the guitar and said no I don't like playing slide guitar it's cheating.
I think we've all seen players de tune the bottom string and it's been part of the song even Hendrix liked doing it but ive never heard of anyone doing what Stefan described the rev did that day.
Am also sure Stefan described what happened far better than i ever could. it blew me away the way he told it.
Have to take what the rev says with a pinch of salt, every time I hear a brilliant slide guitarist my hair stands up.


Fascinating little tale that Oldie lad.

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That's the music I listened to as a kid. My mates dad was-is my mentor musically. He's an old merchant seaman and he's jammed in clubs all over the world and was kind enough to educate me musically. He is the reason I grew up listening to black music primarily...and it's still my first love. Unlike most kids my age I didn't listen to Bowie and Slade,..Alice Cooper..I was listening to Curtis,Millie Jackson,she's rude.... ;D Gil, Esther Phillips, Claudia Lennear, who you'l probably know as the inspiration for Brown Sugar and Lady Grinning Soul...and whom I still lust after. ;D

As I got older I was able to appreciate the Blues more because of Danny explaining to me what the Blues actually...more than just a musical genre....it did take him a good few years till I was able to was able to understand and appreciate what he was trying to educate me in the beauty-the brilliance of Jazz, especially Bop.

I can never repay him for what he did and does...he introduced me to a band a few years back, Snarky Puppy-a fine instrumental-fusion band..the man's in his 80's and still knows.

Fascinating that Dave lad.

Thanks for the background as it gives the drop on where your passion for so much of the stuff you've posted comes from. Love it.

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Incidentally have you come across or d'you know anything about a London based jazz funk outfit called Brother Strut?
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No slide on this, but my favourite Rev Gary Davis song...spent many an hour trying and failing to perfect this on guitar...
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Fascinating little tale that Oldie lad.

 :)
:) It' is Timbo, just wish I could tell it as well Setfan did.
Talking of Robert Johnson, they reckon he was so shy or nervous of playing on stage he use to come on
and sit down on a chair with his back to the audience and start playing. wouldn't go down well at the Echo arena today would it. :)
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No slide on this, but my favourite Rev Gary Davis song...spent many an hour trying and failing to perfect this on guitar...

Is that 'cos it's just too intricate Sam - or because you just need more time?

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Is that 'cos it's just too intricate Sam - or because you just need more time?

Always more time ;D I get impatient trying to learn things...end up bastardising them into something I can actually do.

I've had this chap on today...thank the lord for Sun records...what a catalogue.
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And whenever I think of Sun records, I think of this lovely tribute...
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I was raised on Hank and Glenn Miller


'Course, Mum and me aunties all worked at Burtonwood making parachutes and feeding the air crews (many of whom never came back) so we had all the Yanks round our 'ouse on Upper Hope Place and Auntie Ivy's chip shop on Walker street in Warrington.


Do tell us more Jambo.


Once again it's fascinating to hear how these early exposures to different stuff has such a bearing on individual musical tastes?

I mean I had zero exposure as a kid to any of the raw undiluted black music but huge exposure to late '50's white pop/r&R and the more sanitized Chuck berry/Little Richard/Sam Cooke black music. So I presume it's why the delta blues stuff forinstance has always been such a difficult area for me to genuinely enter into its undoubted joys even when I've really given it a go. Also the jazz funk type stuff and modern R&B has never grabbed me yet I find most of Sly Stone's stuff and certainly Stax, atlantic and Motown an absolute treasure trove.

Interested to get other takes.

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Always more time ;D I get impatient trying to learn things...end up bastardising them into something I can actually do.

I've had this chap on today...thank the lord for Sun records...what a catalogue.
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Did you see the link I posted yesterday Sam - in which Paul Gambacini cites the Billy Fury debut album as second only to those early Sun Sessions in terms of pure rock 'n' roll history?

be interesting to get your take on that.

 


First the amazing Billy Fury



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Erm, excuse me    :)

Soz Paul, in my defence it was late and i'd had a few JD's....completely forgetting the fact they made "Fog On The Tyne".

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Do tell us more Jambo.


Once again it's fascinating to hear how these early exposures to different stuff has such a bearing on individual musical tastes?

I mean I had zero exposure as a kid to any of the raw undiluted black music but huge exposure to late '50's white pop/r&R and the more sanitized Chuck berry/Little Richard/Sam Cooke black music. So I presume it's why the delta blues stuff forinstance has always been such a difficult area for me to genuinely enter into its undoubted joys even when I've really given it a go. Also the jazz funk type stuff and modern R&B has never grabbed me yet I find most of Sly Stone's stuff and certainly Stax, atlantic and Motown an absolute treasure trove.

Interested to get other takes.

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Think I was exactly the same as yourself Timbo. the same type of musical influences. had 4 brothers who played all types of music, one mad on country and western another 2 on rock and roll, then my parents loving the old fashioned black and white minstrel music. I dreaded that radio show tune, Sing something simple coming on.  :) which to be honest I still can't stand listening too today. so I was exposed to all types of music.
 I now listen to some of that music and obviously know all the songs but I don't listen with the prejudiced I did as a young 14-18 yr old who thought it was rubbish and for old foggys. I remember telling the whole family Pertula Calrks Downtown was absolutely rubbish when she was on tv one night.OMG. I listen now and think she is amazing. so I think it did all rub off on me eventually just too much of a young kid rebelling to appreciate it at the time.
I did hear the odd bit of the old Blues from LPs by John Mayall etc and it was all good stuff at the time but it was as you say sanitized and lost it's raw sound and to be honest I couldn't sit there and listen to it now. that doesn't mean I think it's rubbish or anything, the opposite is true, they all influenced music massively.
I will be honest as young lad of 14-say 17 I would have probably just have skipped over that sort of music if I would have heard it but I imagine unless you actually deliberately sort out that music you wouldn't come across it in every day life anyway, certainly wasn't played anywhere I went in Liverpool, even from a kid it was Tamla and soul and that wasn't till I was able to get in places like the cavern that I heard hard rock. I remember watching a group on the Orrell park Ballroom come on and try and play but it wasn't Motown or soul. they all started getting a load of abuse from the crowd that had now gathered near the stage, singer got all hostile and stuck the mike stand out into the crowd warning them to get away from the stage, Big mistake :) you know what's coming next. the mike stand was grabbed and he was pulled off the stage in one movement and given a hiding. that will teach them not to play Tamla in Liverpool. :)
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Soz Paul, in my defence it was late and i'd had a few JD's....completely forgetting the fact they made "Fog On The Tyne".
My personal favourite is "Run for home".

The Lindisfarned Christmas gigs at Newcastle City Hall are legendary, well round these parts they are.

Click the link and see/hear them perform Run for home during their 1987 christmas gig.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9QjyTAxPMs


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So many influences, where to begin. It started with my arl fellah who loved singing his version of the blues through Clarence, Fats and Country with Roger Miller, Patsy Cline and the fellah who sang 'From A Jack to a King'. Everyone had a party piece and there were so many party's either at me nan's or at ours, I'd never get to kip so me and our kid would listen and laugh. Live vocals most weekends and special occasions. We later joined when we were old enough and initiated; my first solo at me nan's was 'Maggie May' complete with mop handle for a prop twirling at a la Rod to generous applause. Getting into The Faces begot Baldry, Hendrix to Clapton then The Stones, Mott The Hoople, etc, that's how it goes I suppose.

At my heart is soul and motown and r&b but you know I can listen to anything. I love Jazz and Jethro, Country and Crooners, Bacharach and Bo Diddley (which reminds me, must root some out for the thread). This thread has been a revelation hearing the old school like the Rev Gary D and Robert Johnson, fuck me could they play or what?

The Beatles, of course, is a chapter in itself. I don't include them as they are ingrained, embedded and programmed within me. Sung or hummed every day, a couple of bars here, a couple of bars there, their influence on me far too personal to share....

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/Y87q6rVMp4Q&amp;ebc=ANyPxKpwLrFiyu4xxLGXskHu0i-yd2exzJDtXlP8kKAp3HoEnuOw8FY2AWAXUZYiaNJCTa6Ls-UXQQGAg73H_4R3zY9P0gmesA" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/Y87q6rVMp4Q&amp;ebc=ANyPxKpwLrFiyu4xxLGXskHu0i-yd2exzJDtXlP8kKAp3HoEnuOw8FY2AWAXUZYiaNJCTa6Ls-UXQQGAg73H_4R3zY9P0gmesA</a>

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Ohh and something else, I have been reading the posts about The Faces.

I am willing to bet my Dad is the number one Faces / Rod Stewart fan.

He seen The Faces a number of times in the 70's, nearly all at NEWCASTLE ODEON where his Grandad was Manager for quite some time.  Back then Bands played at the Odeon and my Dads Grandad got him free tickets.  Not just for Faces gigs either, The Who and others including bands who were popular at the time, SMOKIE and all the rest of them.

He's seen Rod more than 20 times over the years and a few years ago I went with him to see Rod Stewart and his band at Newcastle Arena.  I reckon I was the youngest person in there by 20 years, at least.   The music was excellent though, there's some very talented guys backing Rod Stewart.

It's a small world.

My mates mam used to work in the ticket office. She got us tickets for all those early 70s gigs. Not free mind, but always third row on the basis that those that had queued up deserved at least the pick of the tickets in the front two rows.

The Odeon was comparable in size with the City Hall back then, before it was remodelled into smaller venues within the one building. The Faces, Pink Floyd, Sabbath, Jethro Tull, Deep Purple and the Who (supported by Ian Drury fronting Kilburn and the High Roads - I thought he was a roadie!) all played sell out shows - with us in the third row every time.

Best show for me? Humble Pie. Stevie Marriott was taken far too young from us. What a bundle of high octane rock and soul could Stevie and the lads serve up.

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At my heart is soul and motown and r&b but you know I can listen to anything. I love Jazz and Jethro, Country and Crooners, Bacharach and Bo Diddley (which reminds me, must root some out for the thread). This thread has been a revelation hearing the old school like the Rev Gary D and Robert Johnson, fuck me could they play or what?

The Beatles, of course, is a chapter in itself. I don't include them as they are ingrained, embedded and programmed within me. Sung or hummed every day, a couple of bars here, a couple of bars there, their influence on me far too personal to share....
Do you mind me asking if you were brought up in Liverpool Viva. I know Tamla and Soul became very popular in the 70s revival but just wonder if the rest of the citys around the country were as big a fan of the music from say the mid to late 60s, I know the Motown tour was extremely popular in London but be surprised if the city had the love Liverpool had for Tamla and soul. am not stating this as fact, would be interesting to know.
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I've posted most of me arl memories on the arl arse thread over the years, but basically we were from a group of Irish & Chinese Scousers who all worked Fukinard (for Cunard) back and forth from Liddy to NYC.

Known as Cunard Yanks in the '50s, they would get off at 42nd St and after marvelling at how colorful the cars and clothes were, compared to what was then a very grey postwar England, they would bring records, clothes, hairstyles, magazines, washing machines, and a technicolour swagger to Merseyside.

My lot would head to Tin Pan Alley as they were into jazz.  There they'd find out about New Jersey venues or the Glen Island Casino where they could  find some big bands scheduled.

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I love a banjo.

This is Glenn Campbell's fave playa.

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Here is a question for you's.

Beatles or Stones.  And why?

Ohh, and who's seen one, or even both these great bands play live?

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Here is a question for you's.

Beatles or Stones.  And why?


Both and why not.

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Do you mind me asking if you were brought up in Liverpool Viva. I know Tamla and Soul became very popular in the 70s revival but just wonder if the rest of the citys around the country were as big a fan of the music from say the mid to late 60s, I know the Motown tour was extremely popular in London but be surprised if the city had the love Liverpool had for Tamla and soul. am not stating this as fact, would be interesting to know.

Liverpool born and raised, Fordie, so can only speculate. Depends if you include the Northern soul scene which was an anaemic version if you get me drift? Pure Tamla Motown was very much ours I think. I remember listening to a programme regarding the Mardi Gras. Billy Butler, our Billy, was promoting there and was bringing over American soul acts such as Al Green, The Drifters, The Tarns, Bandwagon, Chairman of the Board before anyone in the late 60's; and of course we had our own act, The Chants, who Epstein managed for a spell. Definitely London was big on it, not sure about the mancs.
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The late, great Alex Chilton. He was 16 here. SIXTEEN.

As I played this, my wife told a great story of how she saw the Box Tops playing a festival in Eulyss Texas in 2004, along with Three Dog Night (who had to cut the concert short because of a torrential rainstorm). She doesn't remember if they played this song, but she remembered "The Letter" and "Neon Rainbow. And the fact that Alex wore white pants and a purple jumper and absolutely owned the stage, like he was born to be there.

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/JEKOKfmgx0g" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/JEKOKfmgx0g</a>

Also love these guys:

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Immense guitar solo.

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Fuckinghell.

The raw musical passion in this thread takes the breath away - from young Newky Paul to Dave's Delta Blues erudism [word/ - if not should be  ;D]. Also great that Grits has joined in the fun.

Absolute joy in every single link!!!

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I've come to appreciate, love even, R.E.M. a lot more since you quite kindly pointed me in the right direction one evening last summer.

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Liverpool born and raised, Fordie, so can only speculate. Depends if you include the Northern soul scene which was an anaemic version if you get me drift? Pure Tamla Motown was very much ours I think. I remember listening to a programme regarding the Mardi Gras. Billy Butler, our Billy, was promoting there and was bringing over American soul acts such as Al Green, The Drifters, The Tarns, Bandwagon, Chairman of the Board before anyone in the late 60's; and of course we had our own act, The Chants, who Epstein managed for a spell. Definitely London was big on it, not sure about the mancs.
Yeah loved places like the Mardi and the Victoriana when I was old enough to get in but as you say the Mardi Gras was the place to go those days.
Extremely hard to get a membership for the Mardi for many years as it was that popular but I did manage to get in a few times then finally got a membership but to be honest that's when it was starting to fade away  and you had no problem getting in.
That's interesting what you say about Billy Butler, never knew Liverpool lead the way bringing these stars over here first and if Billys right then it answers the question of was Liverpool the most fanatical Soul and Motown city in the country. It must have been if were the only city with the popular demand to see these stars, as you say top Soul acts and people like Ben E king and the Drifters.Edwin Starr, Jimmy Ruffian.etc. all played there a few times.
Loved the Chants, I never knew Epstein managed them but he would have been long gone when I saw them, sang a lot of those high pitched Temptations songs like Your my everything, sounded amazing and looked the real deal.
I did mean the northern soul revival but I never went to any of those places in Wigan etc, thought they just played a lot of the stuff we had been playing years before a lot of the time but am no authority on Northern soul but that's how it came over to me. madding that they wouldn't tell each other the names of the songs they were playing, now would be frustrating if you loved the music. :)
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Session players are often woefully left forgotten in the wake of the singers/bands they play for. Here are some of the songs credited to the great bassist Carol Kaye:

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/5nZnqtDdsws" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/5nZnqtDdsws</a>

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Here is a question for you's.

Beatles or Stones.  And why?

Ohh, and who's seen one, or even both these great bands play live?

Saw the Stones.

Newcastle City Hall 1972 I think it will have been. Pity for me and your Dad it wasn't the Odeon!

Coincidently they were supported by Billy Preston, who supposedly was the only musician to play with both the Stones and the Beatles.

Never had the privilege of seeing the Beatles. I'm envious of those who did.

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I'm sure the fabulous Billy Preston has played with most of the greats and I went looking for a suitable one to put up from youtube.

I've found a good un here all right.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxSHBIXfFPE