Topic: Are there any physicists here?

[Trim0582]

I have a question that I want to ask, but I am sure it is stupid. So rather than publically humiliate myself, can I IM one of you smart folk.

[Titi Camara]

Ha ha just fucking post it up. You can always delete it if it's really bad Baldrick!

[Upinsmoke]

Are there any doctors on rawk?

You sure it's for the "technology" part of the site?

[Titi Camara]

Has someone been at the diesel oil again?

[[new username under construction]]

Ha ha just fucking post it up. You can always delete it if it's really bad Baldrick!

Have you seen some of the shite on here ....do this ^

[Trim0582]

Ok, you horrible lot.

So it's about gauge bosons, the graviton in particular.

Gauge bosons have been found for the other three forces, strong, weak and electromagnetic and they are the carrier particles for the associated forces. Should we expect the graviton to be sub-atomic also?

It seems like the "message" of gravity is transmitted and carried on the fabric of spacetime itself, rather than through it. So why couldn't the universe be a super expanded graviton?

The expansion phase begins with the big bang and continues. Could the lifetime of the universe simply be the expansion and possible, eventual contraction of a super expanded graviton? Seeing as it seems so intrinsically linked with space-time itself, why is this stupid?

[[new username under construction]]

I was going to answer this....but...ummm....I think I left the iron on!

[CraigDS]

I think the answer is 7.

[Titi Camara]

I've messaged Gullysucker and Alan. If collectively they don't know the answer then the answer simply doesn't exist.

[Trim0582]

I've messaged Gullysucker and Alan. If collectively they don't know the answer then the answer simply doesn't exist.

Thanks dude

I am sure the answer will explain why it is a ridiculous supposition, but I need to know why it's ridiculous.

[Chakan]

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[Haemoglobin]

As a foremost expert in this field, I would assert that in-depth knowledge of the constant physical force that gravity exerts is imperative when attempting to gauge bosoms. The "message" of gravity is indeed transmitted and carried on the fabric, but also through it - although this message can be somewhat negated/distorted by certain particularly powerful things called bras. This is called the Strong Bra Uncertainty Principle in academic circles, first proposed and developed by these two geniuses, heroes of mine who I am honoured to also consider close personal friends:





I'd recommend not talking about the how the expansion phase begins on a public football forum in light of recent events.

[Trim0582]

As a foremost expert in this field, I would assert that in-depth knowledge of the constant physical force that gravity exerts is imperative when attempting to gauge bosoms. The "message" of gravity is indeed transmitted and carried on the fabric, but also through it - although this message can be somewhat negated/distorted by certain particularly powerful things called bras. This is called the Strong Bra Uncertainty Principle in academic circles, first proposed and developed by these two geniuses, heroes of mine who I am honoured to also consider close personal friends:





I'd recommend not talking about the how the expansion phase begins on a public football forum in light of recent events.

Hahahahaha - epic, greatness. Doffs cap

[Titi Camara]

Didn't some of their earlier work on big science include a steam powered bra?

[Haemoglobin]

^ I'm impressed that you know that Titi, as they are notoriously private and sensitive when it comes to sharing their bra work with the general public.

[Les Willis]

^ I'm impressed that you know that Titi, as they are notoriously private and sensitive when it comes to sharing their bra work with the general public.

Well he is called Titi... so bras are relevant.

[alonsoisared]

Ok, you horrible lot.

So it's about gauge bosons, the graviton in particular.

Gauge bosons have been found for the other three forces, strong, weak and electromagnetic and they are the carrier particles for the associated forces. Should we expect the graviton to be sub-atomic also?

It seems like the "message" of gravity is transmitted and carried on the fabric of spacetime itself, rather than through it. So why couldn't the universe be a super expanded graviton?

The expansion phase begins with the big bang and continues. Could the lifetime of the universe simply be the expansion and possible, eventual contraction of a super expanded graviton? Seeing as it seems so intrinsically linked with space-time itself, why is this stupid?

Jesus mate what a stupid question

won't even dignify it with an answer 

 

[Party Phil]

[The Gulleysucker]

I've messaged Gullysucker and Alan. If collectively they don't know the answer then the answer simply doesn't exist.

Sorry, while I've read the usual books, it's not an area I have sufficient knowledge of or have given any great thought about to be able to give a decent answer at the moment.
Cowtownred is possible a good bet though, he might be able to answer the question, or at least know someone at Durham (I think he's currently doing Physics there as a mature student) who might be able to elaborate with a much better degree of authority.

[Titi Camara]

Sorry, while I've read the usual books, it's not an area I have sufficient knowledge of or have given any great thought about to be able to give a decent answer at the moment.
Cowtownred is possible a good bet though, he might be able to answer the question, or at least know someone at Durham (I think he's currently doing Physics there as a mature student) who might be able to elaborate with a much better degree of authority.

I feel like Dorothy

[Nessy76]

Sounds like one for the letters page of the New Scientist magazine. They'd probably print it, too.

[Macphisto80]

Clearly, if you factor in all the possibilities, and then multiply them by by the square root of pi, you get...
























Ghostbusters 2.


Obviously.

[redbyrdz]

Ok, you horrible lot.

So it's about gauge bosons, the graviton in particular.

Gauge bosons have been found for the other three forces, strong, weak and electromagnetic and they are the carrier particles for the associated forces. Should we expect the graviton to be sub-atomic also?

It seems like the "message" of gravity is transmitted and carried on the fabric of spacetime itself, rather than through it. So why couldn't the universe be a super expanded graviton?

The expansion phase begins with the big bang and continues. Could the lifetime of the universe simply be the expansion and possible, eventual contraction of a super expanded graviton? Seeing as it seems so intrinsically linked with space-time itself, why is this stupid?

The theory is that gravitons are elementary particles and as such cannot be 'super expanded' and contain other known particles.

[TepidT2O]

Yep....


Don't even vaguely understand the question

Interestingly though, the new particle that may (may) have been discovered at the LHC....

Some are speculating that it may be responsible for Gravity...


To be honest though, if it doesn't involve electrons, then I'm out

Electrons rule

[Nessy76]

Yep....


Don't even vaguely understand the question

Interestingly though, the new particle that may (may) have been discovered at the LHC....

Some are speculating that it may be responsible for Gravity...


To be honest though, if it doesn't involve electrons, then I'm out

Electrons rule

Nah, neutrinos are where it's at.

[TepidT2O]

It's all about the chemistry you see

[Upinsmoke]

See, I was right. Wrong part of the site, better answers in the boozer section!

[Upinsmoke]

Nah, neutrinos are where it's at.

And oxides

[Trim0582]

The theory is that gravitons are elementary particles and as such cannot be 'super expanded' and contain other known particles.

Indeed, so this would be completely contrary to current model, which is why I am sure it is a stupid question, but it has been on my mind for the best part of a decade.

Also it's my understanding that zero mass particles must travel through space at light speed and therefore zero speed through time, like a photon. Surely we would be able to track a zero mass particle at such high velocity.

For me it's the fact that we haven't found something we are sure should be there, perhaps we should stop looking at the micro and look at the macro.

[Trim0582]

I have emailed cowtownred, I hope he wont mind, honestly folks, this has been driving me nuts for years, but I am useless at calculus and advance math, so I lack the tools to prove myself wrong.

[Titi Camara]

I have emailed cowtownred, I hope he wont mind, honestly folks, this has been driving me nuts for years, but I am useless at calculus and advance math, so I lack the tools to prove myself wrong.

If this has been going on for years then an alternate would be to take up glue sniffing or if that doesn't do the trick start smoking crack or meth. You'd soon forgot about all this physics nonsense.....and possibly everything else you've ever known

[Trim0582]

If this has been going on for years then an alternate would be to take up glue sniffing or if that doesn't do the trick start smoking crack or meth. You'd soon forgot about all this physics nonsense.....and possibly everything else you've ever known

That's not the worst idea I've ever heard

[CornerFlag]

We were talking about this yesterday in our physics lecture!  Only I wasn't paying attention...    I do know that the Dr. taking the class was saying that the gauge bosons we know about (W±, photon, gluon, Z) are all of spin 1, and that the graviton is difficult to discover due to the fact that it's theorised that its spin is 2, which is a branch pretty much in its very infancy as it's related to the theoretical make-up of branes (I think? It's something I have ZERO info on bar they're of the order of something like 10^-42m and involved in string theory)

I'd say try searching for "graviton" and "spin 2".

[Titi Camara]

I'd say try searching for "graviton" and "spin 2".

You might need a magnifying glass though

[redbyrdz]

Indeed, so this would be completely contrary to current model, which is why I am sure it is a stupid question, but it has been on my mind for the best part of a decade.

Enough time for a physics degree and phd in particle physics. What have you been doing instead?

[cowtownred]

Haven't got a clue (I'm only Level 1  ......  we're still on Faraday ).

But I will ask Professor Frenk next week.  He might know.

[[new username under construction]]

Haven't got a clue (I'm only Level 1  ......  we're still on Faraday ).

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