Topic: United 3-1 Liverpool FT

[Dizzyfinn]

I realised halfway through the first half that I'm just waiting for a new manager.

Rodgers whole approach this season seems to be designed to do enough to keep his job rather than building a great team.

It's not working out

[Caligula?]

The best managers get the most out of their players. Especially the limited ones.

Who are we getting the best out of in our squad?

Forget about getting the best, he's getting the worst out of some very good players.

[cptrios]

I've been behind Rodgers through everything to this point, but I don't think I can take it anymore. I literally will not be able to watch an entire season of us playing like this, regardless of what our points total might be. It's like he thinks simply not playing offense anymore will solve his defensive shortcomings.

Positives:

Ibe looked good compared to his previous play this season.
Origi looked lively.
Benteke's goal - which, sadly, will be relegated to the same pile as Coates' against Wigan thanks to the final score. Still, for the people saying "XXXm pounds and no game-changers," I'd think they should take another look at Mr. Banned Turkey.

[88_RED]

120 people have so far asked for Brendan to be sacked in 7 pages..

[Persephone]

First time I've said this but keeping Rodgers last season was not the right move. Anyone got Klopp's number?

[MrRaptorTurtle]

can't wait for the super fans to show up and tell us how everything is fine 

I can't wait to see what Brentie has to say

[Macphisto80]

Someone in our club should call Klopp before Chelsea does

Exactly.

[LiverBirdKop]

Lucas was all but sold to Beşiktaş and now he's suddenly a 1st team regular again, how on earth is that possible at a club that has a plan?! And I've said it many times before but Martin Skrtel is absolutely terrible, almost as bad as Lovren.

You really think there is a plan, as in on the field?

Here's the plan, and hopefully more people will be paying attention.

FSG have no clue so they rely on others who are absolute idiots to run the club. As long as the club is showing a profit tiny as it may be, as long as the books are balanced, even a whiff at top 4 will be good enough for them every year....and apparently good enough for most 'fans'. 'Bigger' stadium, good accounts, and hope to cash out ASAP is the plan. The irony is, selling LFC may not come in John Henry's lifetime.

[lessthanmatt]

Can thank Suarez and a godly 4 months of form from Gerrard for that.

And to a lesser extent this season, if Rodgers is afforded the time, Coutinho will mask some of his shortcomings. A wonder strike against Stoke put 3 points next to our name first game for example. He wins points on his own but we can't be depending all on him

[The Infamous_LFC]

I think Skrtel and Lovren are the worst centreback partnership we've had at the club certainly since I can remember....and we've had some absolute shitters in the past.  That they are our first choice defensive partnership alone is a sackable offence.  Sorry Brendan, but the squad you've got is nowhere near good enough and you aren't getting them to perform to their own level let alone above it.

He should go, and he should soon.  But he won't and we'll continue this drab, insipid, rubbish excuse for football until the summer.  Shite.

Agree he has to go. Give Klopp a call. I'm sure he will get the best out of our 32.5million summer signing.

[bird_lfc]

that was fucking dreadful.

feel sorry for benteke, he would thrive with the right service

[mensor]

If its up to FSG, they'll instate Sean O'Driscoll as manager if Brendan is sacked.

[Claire.]

The thing is, with Hodgson we still had quality players and if we got a decent manager in, which we did, we could save the club from falling off a cliff. Now...fuck knows.

The first team (barring one or two) is full of quality players, trouble is they don't have anyone who can lead them.


Interesting as well for the people on here who do nothing but slag him off, boy have we fucking missed Henderson.

[elsewhere]

He should have gone this summer,now we don't have a budget. I don't even know how we can offload all those dross players Brendan brought?

[Gerry83]

I just dont get how this is acceptable to our club as a whole.  We continue on digesting these kinds of performances and waiting for the next one.  This and the West Ham game have a Hodgson like feel.  Confidence at the floor, appalling tactics and blind hope more than expectation that it will ever get better.  There is something seriously wrong with our club and it is not being addressed.

I'll sum it up... We have a large turn around of players in the last 3 seasons so naturally seem to find consistency when the players have had 20+ games under their belts together, hence our good performances towards the latter end of the season.

We have sold our best players or let them go in Suarez, Sterling and have our best striker constantly injured.
For all the character that BR talks about in his interviews i fail to see any REAL character in any of our players in the mould of some of our more famous characters (SG, carra, hyypia etc). 

We have spent loads but on the calibre of player that would be considered a class down from the likes of players our apparent 'rivals' can attract.

[killer-heels]

Whats the fucking point in playing Ings off the left? Shocking managerial choices.

[Red Beret]

I've held back for a long time on this but I really think it's time for Rodgers to resign.  I am seeing no plan or coherence or strategy.  I'm seeing players bought who never get a chance and players who do are put in formations that don't work. 

I'm no expert - I'm highly ignorant in fact, which is why I've held off posting an opinion as I felt it would be ill-educated.  But the blows to morale are just too much. 

[TrueNorthRED]

We have been boring, slow and predictable for far too long now. Not good enough.

[rowan_d]

This team has a million major problems

Approach to the match was shameful.

[Il Conte]

We are stuck right now as we don`t have the personnel to keep the ball well and our counter-attacks are still non-existent. Very difficult situation that.

Only we can spend 60m on two strikers and look even less of a goal threat than before.

What we do have is by all accounts the personel the manager wants. His ambition seems to be to play it out the back with Migs-Skrtel-Lovren. They have their strenghts as footballers but they (and our midfielders) are utterly incompatible with what Rodgers claims to be his philosophy.

[Pepe Silvia]

Rodgers outthought again by van Gaal. In the West Ham game they kept on playing it short from set pieces to Cresswell their left back who never got picked up and put in one dangerous cross after another. This game in the first hallf Man utd showed their hand early by doing the same thing with Blind. Lo and behold they score the first from just such a detail. Not to mention them bringing on Young at half time to introduce some much needed pace and aggression compared to us seemingly being happy with how things were going in the first 45.

Benteke seemed to have no positional instruction which seems baffling to me because you'd have thought you'd want him isolating Blind. Even pushing two strikers up, with Ings in that channel between Smalling and their right back and Benteke between Blind and their left back would have been an obvious tactic and way of exploiting an ordinary defence. Instead we left Benteke up down the middle, isolated and thus forcing us to play slow, pedestrian shite football.

Also, Skrtel. Fucking hell, almost unforgivable letting Martial score that goal. You could see almost as soon as he picked up the ball Skrtel shit his pants.

[QC]

If opts up to FSG, they'll instate Sean O'Driscoll as manager if Brendan is sacked.

Nah, hiring Klopp is way to obvious. He's been dropping hints as well.

[lessthanmatt]

Tick tock, Jürgen Klopp

 

[IgorBobbins]

Utopia.

[gazzalfc]

It's as if BR knew with his suit choice today. He looked like he was attending a funeral

[goalrushatgoodison]

There were idiots on this board who wanted rid of Kenny. They got their way, in fact some might say facilitated it, we ended up with an inexperienced manager with very little achievement behind him. Now there is a clamour of people shouting for Brendan's head. Some of the same posters no doubt.

Be careful what you wish for.

[LiverBirdKop]

Ancelotti please....although he may not like the current rudderless structure at the club.

[lastbaron]

For the first time in a long time i'm fewmin.

[Golden_Child]

It's all ok, Sturridge will save us!!

Oh, hang on. Sturridge will be played wide left in a formation that has been a pile of shit for the last 5 games.

When he brought Origi on I thought "Bout fucking time, two up front".

But oh no, Origi will play wide left and we will keep the same fucking system that hasn't worked all fucking season.

Absolute fucking joke and I just don't know what the thinking behind it is. We just got beat 3-1 by a team with no strikers and didn't look like scoring apart from a wonder goal.

Funny thing is, Balotelli was shit last year and people were split on whether it was his fault or the system. This season seems to add credence to the latter. The players at Brendan's disposal are better than the performances we've put in. He's gotta change something soon or he's gone.

[Clint Eastwood]

He's dragging us down, further and further each week.

It makes me sick, a team on the verge of achieving great things held back by financial problems and ruthless owners in 2009 with Rafa Benite at the helm, and now look at us. Financially sound, all the tools to get ourselves back to the top, held back by a manager who isn't cut for the job and owners who can't see that.

[BOBSCOUSE]

Mark it down as the day Rodgers lost me. Tempted to take a month off Liverpool if were going to approach games like that.

Don't normally post in after-match threads, win or lose, but that is what has done it for me.  Not the first time either - so many games where he is playing HIS players out of position and looking to try and contain the opponents - gutless. Setting up for a game against Manchester United as if we were mid-table fodder, fucking unforgiveable for a Liverpool manager Brendan.

[Les Willis]

can't wait for the super fans to show up and tell us how everything is fine 

I did and it isn't.

[TepidT2O]

Let's not go overboard.

I agree, sorry, I was a little rash in my judgement after the result.

It would be worse if I were Welsh ....

[Zlen]

Experiment has failed.
Can we go back to having someone with a fucking winning portfolio on the bench please?
My eyes hurt from all the 'potential' and 'rebuilding'.

[chrishughes]

Such a lame and timid performance. For all the players that have been bought over the past 2 seasons the central midfield hasn't been addressed. That's your engine.

[Wool]

Should have been sacked last season really, but the owners decided to give him another chance. This is his team, his players, and we look as clueless as ever on the pitch. He has to go.

[Torben Piechniks Y-Fronts]

That was fuckin atrocious. Players in the wrong position all over the pitch, Benteke leftso home alone he will need a macauly culkin on his fuckin arse, what in the name of a fuckin elephant shiting on a brush was Rodgers thinking?


Absolutely flabbergasted by that.

My patience is wearing so fuckin thin now, so fuckin thin.

[Henry Chinaski]

He should go, and he should soon.  But he won't

Why this conclusion? Does John Henry not have eyes or do you know more than we do? (not a dig at you, just an honest question)

[The Infamous_LFC]

Sign a striker and play them left wing 😂😂😂

[Johnnyboy1973]

Great goal from Benteke.

As for the rest of it? We're average.

Four years, money spent, players bought, philosophy instilled and it's a shambles. Just the basics. We continue for four years running to be shit defensively. But now we're dreadful going forward as well. No death by football possession overkill, no breakneck counter just a bunch of players devoid of a game plan beyond don't lose who can't pass for shit.

Fuck knows what happened to Brendan. It's not as simple as Suarez because there was a philosophy in the first season. Although to be fair he may have come to the conclusion that philosophy didn't work. But we've seen it just slip further and further since the beginning of last season to where we are now.

Maybe it's the death of those close to him, the divorce or his sons trouble. But I've no idea what it is he is trying to do and the players look just as clueless. Two down and we still didn't go two up top. Baffling.

I fancy anyone to turn us over these days.