Author Topic: Windows 10, professional spyware. (Read 101688 times)

Schmidt · « **Reply #240 on:** July 30, 2015, 12:44:24 pm »

Quote from: Smudgester on July 30, 2015, 12:00:27 pm

Bugger - I already did loads of partition resizing last night to get 9GB more space on my C: drive thinking it would be enough will have to do some more now.

How on earth can it require that much even it does need to stop the archive and the contents of the archive !!!!

I upgraded from 64 bit Windows 8.1 with 18GB free space and it had no issues, the download was only 3GB so I can't see that somehow unpacking to ~20GB.

Also after the upgrade I'm up to 24GB of space which is pretty nifty.

Smudgester · « **Reply #241 on:** July 30, 2015, 03:26:21 pm »

Either Microsoft's servers are being hammered or my internet connection is rubbish but it the download tool (off the Microsoft site) doing the "Install now" option has taken from 7am to 3pm to get to 60%

A workmate did the same thing yesterday and it was downloaded and installed within 2hrs

oojason · « **Reply #242 on:** July 30, 2015, 03:45:30 pm »

the lovely people at classicshell.net have their alternative Start Button all ready for Windows 10 users - http://www.classicshell.net/

If you're running an older laptop / desktop check that you're graphics drivers are compatible and are available to download and install before 'upgrading' to Win 10.

It's also worth checking older devices such as scanners and printers etc to ensure drivers are available for Windows 10 (especially if you have an older HP printer).

First few impressions are that Chrome is a fair bit slower starting up and in it's general usage - as is the Windows Search function. Doesn't seem to have the 'snap' (responsiveness) it did when running Windows 7.

I'll still wait a month or two before considering upgrading from Win 7 to Win 10 on my main machine - let those bugs and kinks get worked out first.

Ken-Obi · « **Reply #243 on:** July 30, 2015, 04:31:34 pm »

Quote from: Skeeve on July 30, 2015, 03:32:46 am

Go to Settings -> Personlisation -> Start and there is an option to 'Use start full screen' that should give you that back should you really want it.

Perfect.

Ken-Obi · « **Reply #244 on:** July 30, 2015, 04:38:26 pm »

And now I have Candy Crush on the PC.

Goodbye sleep.

Ken-Obi · « **Reply #245 on:** July 30, 2015, 05:24:06 pm »

Found a compromise on the start menu and tiles. Even more perfect.

Packalacky · « **Reply #246 on:** July 30, 2015, 05:54:08 pm »

Nearly 11GB download to install an OS...

That's pretty ridiculous.

Redman0151 · « **Reply #247 on:** July 30, 2015, 06:57:19 pm »

Just seen this on twitter:

Is it wise to be concerned about this stuff, or is it paranoia over nothing? Don't like the idea of Microsoft having access to my Emails and personal communications personally. Will wait before upgrading

dikwad · « **Reply #248 on:** July 30, 2015, 07:11:06 pm »

Just upgraded my HP Stream 7. Had a bit of bother due to the small internal memory on this thing but thankfully I've an sd card as well. Used the Media Creation Tool from MS and it's working fine now

Smudgester · « **Reply #249 on:** July 30, 2015, 07:31:14 pm »

Downloaded started 12 hours ago (on a 58Mb connection) - only just hit 95% !!!

People at work had it downloaded in less than 15 minutes yesterday

Kashinoda · « **Reply #250 on:** July 30, 2015, 08:01:18 pm »

Quote from: Crosby Wych on July 30, 2015, 06:57:19 pm

Just seen this on twitter:

* snip *

Is it wise to be concerned about this stuff, or is it paranoia over nothing? Don't like the idea of Microsoft having access to my Emails and personal communications personally. Will wait before upgrading

To be fair it's not too different to Windows 8.1, though easier to disable everything on 8.1 it seems.

If you're truly paranoid I'd wait and grab Windows 10: Enterprise Edition.

iSmiff · « **Reply #251 on:** July 30, 2015, 08:02:44 pm »

or write your own OS

Red Beret · « **Reply #252 on:** July 30, 2015, 08:03:57 pm »

I don't even use one drive or cloud. I've barely any idea what either of them are. I think I joined up to cloud so I could use wifi hotspots but that's all I know...

Kashinoda · « **Reply #253 on:** July 30, 2015, 08:07:46 pm »

Quote from: Red Beret on July 30, 2015, 08:03:57 pm

I don't even use one drive or cloud. I've barely any idea what either of them are. I think I joined up to cloud so I could use wifi hotspots but that's all I know...

I posted how to remove OneDrive a few pages back

Quote from: Kashinoda on July 18, 2015, 11:48:02 am

Am I right in thinking you could disable updates entirely with the Enterprise edition? Definitely looks like Microsoft are going down the service route.

I took the plunge and grabbed the 10240 build (which is heavily rumoured to be the RTM anyway), love the slickness of it all... I had tried a build around a year ago and wasn't impressed.

A few things:

Remove OneDrive from Windows 10:
https://techjourney.net/disable-or-uninstall-onedrive-completely-in-windows-10/

Removing 'QuickAccess':
http://www.askvg.com/how-to-disable-quick-access-aka-home-view-in-windows-10-file-explorer/
http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/4844-quick-access-navigation-pane-add-remove-windows-10-a.html

Also noticed Xbox app that is on there by default (and reinstalls itself if you remove it in PowerShell). This has caused me some problems with games due to the game DVR feature. Open msconfig.exe, goto services and de-select all the Xbox services.

For anyone who's grabbed the 10240 build, this is how you activate it:

Spoiler
Type the following command and hit the Enter key:
slmgr /ipk W269N-WFGWX-YVC9B-4J6C9-T83GX
Wait for the message box popup that the key is installed.

Now type the following command and press Enter
slmgr /skms kms.xspace.in
Again, wait for the message box.

Finally, enter the following command:
slmgr /ato
[close]

oojason · « **Reply #254 on:** July 30, 2015, 08:14:59 pm »

Quote from: Crosby Wych on July 30, 2015, 06:57:19 pm

Just seen this on twitter:

Is it wise to be concerned about this stuff, or is it paranoia over nothing? Don't like the idea of Microsoft having access to my Emails and personal communications personally. Will wait before upgrading

Wait a while mate - though if/when you do upgrade to Win 10 press the Start button go to 'Settings', then 'Privacy' and have a good look through to see what you'd like to turn off, and not be sent back to microsoft etc. Plus, keep an eye out on the better tech sites out there to see how to better protect your files/privacy etc.

Personally I don't use/trust OneDrive or Dropbox etc - I prefer the good old external portable harddrive as a backup (my data - my device).

Red Beret · « **Reply #255 on:** July 30, 2015, 08:50:31 pm »

Quote from: Kashinoda on July 30, 2015, 08:07:46 pm

I posted how to remove OneDrive a few pages back

Thanks. I'm still on my trusty Windows 7 and I reckon I'll stick with it for the time being.

Smudgester · « **Reply #256 on:** July 30, 2015, 09:21:47 pm »

So ... the first attempt at updating using the download tool failed

How do I kick off the update again without spending a day re-downloading as the files still appear to be there?

Upinsmoke · « **Reply #257 on:** July 30, 2015, 09:38:49 pm »

Serious Question, what's the rush?

Elmo! · « **Reply #258 on:** July 30, 2015, 09:49:19 pm »

Quote from: Kashinoda on July 30, 2015, 08:01:18 pm

To be fair it's not too different to Windows 8.1, though easier to disable everything on 8.1 it seems.

If you're truly paranoid I'd wait and grab Windows 10: Enterprise Edition.

Is Enterprise available for home users? With Windows 7, it is only available for volume licensing (though it is identical to W7 Ultimate, just with a different name).

Kashinoda · « **Reply #259 on:** July 30, 2015, 11:28:55 pm »

Quote from: elmo_swatloski on July 30, 2015, 09:49:19 pm

Is Enterprise available for home users? With Windows 7, it is only available for volume licensing (though it is identical to W7 Ultimate, just with a different name).

Not officially available for home users.

Not a great deal stops you from downloading the iso and activating it anyway, albeit illegitimately. Enterprise edition is out this weekend I believe.
http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/microsoft-sets-a-date-for-windows-10-enterprise-availability-1300601

Twelfth Man · « **Reply #260 on:** July 30, 2015, 11:34:25 pm »

Quote from: Upinsmoke on July 30, 2015, 09:38:49 pm

Serious Question, what's the rush?

Well I can now utilize my overkill 32GB gaming RAM, then there is the DX12 malarkey, also it looks and feels quiet nice and I'm a succor for ephemeral cosmetic changes. Yet to test out on Dota 2. Doubt it will help much, will still be shit...

Kashinoda · « **Reply #261 on:** July 30, 2015, 11:37:53 pm »

Quote from: Twelfth Man on July 30, 2015, 11:34:25 pm

Well I can now utilize my overkill 32GB gaming RAM, then there is the DX12 malarkey, also it looks and feels quiet nice and I'm a succor for ephemeral cosmetic changes. Yet to test out on Dota 2. Doubt it will help much, will still be shit...

You're the worst

JasonF · « **Reply #262 on:** July 30, 2015, 11:52:08 pm »

I've updated my HP Proliant N54L Micro Server from Windows 8 to 10 but it's lost Ethernet connectivity now, it thinks the cable is unplugged but it's definitely plugged in and a working cable.

Having to use it with Wifi for now but that's not ideal since it serves the entire house with media files. Anyone got any ideas? Not seeing anything relevant on Google.

Upinsmoke · « **Reply #263 on:** July 31, 2015, 08:54:26 am »

Quote from: Twelfth Man on July 30, 2015, 11:34:25 pm

Well I can now utilize my overkill 32GB gaming RAM, then there is the DX12 malarkey, also it looks and feels quiet nice and I'm a succor for ephemeral cosmetic changes. Yet to test out on Dota 2. Doubt it will help much, will still be shit...

No rush then

Trada · « **Reply #264 on:** July 31, 2015, 09:03:45 am »

I thought I would play some of the apps and tried Modern combat 5 black out its pretty good and you can play it multi player not bad for free.

Smudgester · « **Reply #265 on:** July 31, 2015, 10:56:36 am »

So - it would seem that not all <cough>legit</cough> versions of Win7 can be updated.

Some of them will not only refuse to update to Win 10 but also, in the process of restoring your previous version of Win7 will also un-authenticate it as well !!!

swoopy · « **Reply #266 on:** July 31, 2015, 12:17:42 pm »

Quote from: oojason on July 30, 2015, 03:45:30 pm

First few impressions are that Chrome is a fair bit slower starting up and in it's general usage - as is the Windows Search function. Doesn't seem to have the 'snap' (responsiveness) it did when running Windows 7.

Agree. After clicking start there is a little delay before the menu loads.

Hopefully it'll get sorted in time

dikwad · « **Reply #267 on:** July 31, 2015, 01:21:12 pm »

Quote from: swoopy on July 31, 2015, 12:17:42 pm

Agree. After clicking start there is a little delay before the menu loads.

Hopefully it'll get sorted in time

Been giving Edge a go and it's pretty good. I find Chrome is a right system hog these days, especially on low end devices.

Elzar · « **Reply #268 on:** July 31, 2015, 01:22:18 pm »

Been advised not to download yet on Sony

Upinsmoke · « **Reply #269 on:** July 31, 2015, 01:29:10 pm »

Quote from: Smudgester on July 31, 2015, 10:56:36 am

So - it would seem that not all <cough>legit</cough> versions of Win7 can be updated.

Some of them will not only refuse to update to Win 10 but also, in the process of restoring your previous version of Win7 will also un-authenticate it as well !!!

Not a huge issue, just use the Wat fix and reinstall the loader.

Upinsmoke · « **Reply #270 on:** July 31, 2015, 02:02:31 pm »

Also if you validate your copy of windows 7 and it's successful, surely upgrading should be equally as successful?

dikwad · « **Reply #271 on:** July 31, 2015, 02:16:27 pm »

Quote from: Upinsmoke on July 31, 2015, 02:02:31 pm

Also if you validate your copy of windows 7 and it's successful, surely upgrading should be equally as successful?

That's right. KMSPico works fine.

GiorgosCarraGoonies · « **Reply #272 on:** July 31, 2015, 02:28:36 pm »

I had Firefox running and 4 tabs open and it was using about 390 MB of memory.

Just started Edge with the exact same 4 tabs, 18 MB.

I presume it's the Firefox add-ons that make the difference? Or is this Edge really very slick?

Ken-Obi · « **Reply #273 on:** July 31, 2015, 02:34:25 pm »

Quote from: GiorgosCarraGoonies on July 31, 2015, 02:28:36 pm

I had Firefox running and 4 tabs open and it was using about 390 MB of memory.

Just started Edge with the exact same 4 tabs, 18 MB.

I presume it's the Firefox add-ons that make the difference? Or is this Edge really very slick?

Edge is really very slick.

A new Windows 10 version of the Fox would be out real soon so we can wait for that.

swoopy · « **Reply #274 on:** July 31, 2015, 02:35:00 pm »

Quote from: Sheev-Palpatine on July 31, 2015, 02:34:25 pm

Edge is really very slick.

A new Windows 10 version of the Fox would be out real soon so we can wait for that.

Youtube videos don't play for me on EDGE

The sound is there, but no actual picture

GiorgosCarraGoonies · « **Reply #275 on:** July 31, 2015, 02:39:09 pm »

I just changed the theme on Edge from light to dark.

Oooh it's lovely...

Smudgester · « **Reply #276 on:** July 31, 2015, 03:20:28 pm »

Quote from: Upinsmoke on July 31, 2015, 01:29:10 pm

Not a huge issue, just use the Wat fix and reinstall the loader.

True.

Quote from: dikwad on July 31, 2015, 02:16:27 pm

That's right. KMSPico works fine.

That could have been the problem. They used the Daz loader to bypaas authentication ... but then KMSPico is by the same team???

So a Win7 PC using KMSPico updates to Win10 fine?

dikwad · « **Reply #277 on:** July 31, 2015, 03:27:30 pm »

Quote from: Smudgester on July 31, 2015, 03:20:28 pm

True.That could have been the problem. They used the Daz loader to bypaas authentication ... but then KMSPico is by the same team???

So a Win7 PC using KMSPico updates to Win10 fine?

Installed ok for me on Win 8 using the Media creation tool. Dont see why 7 would be any different.

JoeH · « **Reply #278 on:** July 31, 2015, 03:36:03 pm »

Quote from: JasonF on July 30, 2015, 11:52:08 pm

I've updated my HP Proliant N54L Micro Server from Windows 8 to 10 but it's lost Ethernet connectivity now, it thinks the cable is unplugged but it's definitely plugged in and a working cable.

Having to use it with Wifi for now but that's not ideal since it serves the entire house with media files. Anyone got any ideas? Not seeing anything relevant on Google.

Have you put the BIOS update on your Microserver (SP64420)?

If you need it, pm me your email and I will send you the zip.

Smudgester · « **Reply #279 on:** July 31, 2015, 03:44:20 pm »

Quote from: dikwad on July 31, 2015, 03:27:30 pm

Installed ok for me on Win 8 using the Media creation tool. Dont see why 7 would be any different.

http://kmspi.co, right?