Author Topic: Wear Red, Bring a Scarf - Make the Kop Look Good Again (Read 78844 times)

Sir Afghan · « **Reply #360 on:** March 30, 2014, 06:58:26 pm »

That was a great deal of fun.

simesy · « **Reply #361 on:** March 30, 2014, 07:46:57 pm »

Wasn't at the match but the atmosphere seemed to be like a champions league night. Cant wait for the two ties at home they will be shitting themselves.

Budmasch · « **Reply #362 on:** March 31, 2014, 01:15:40 am »

I go to the emirates every now and then as its close to where I work and I sometimes get comp. tickets. The regulars only wear club shirts on the first day and even those are retro shirts. Wearing a club shirt on other days marks you out as being a day tripper and possible target of ridicule. Sad really, considering the day tripper has probably made up/filled in for a regular that has not been able to attend on that day.

But I can understand people not wanting to wear the same thing every week.

I was at the game on Wednesday with a mate. He's not very regular and neither am I. He wore his club shirt but I only had my 80's scarf. Looking around on the kop, you could tell the regulars from the day trippers.

We're not lucky enough to attend many games at Anfield, but when we do, we want to show our support, solidarity and affinity to the club, the city and the people. We take huge pride in wearing the club colours. The kop is a magnificent sight when its festooned in Red and White. I'm all for getting it like that more regularly.

MiserableP15 · « **Reply #363 on:** March 31, 2014, 10:45:10 am »

Quote from: Budmasch on March 31, 2014, 01:15:40 am

LFC red polo shirt does the job for me every time. Red enough for the match, smart enough for the pre and post bevvies. Can't go wrong.

RainbowFlick · « **Reply #364 on:** March 31, 2014, 11:18:05 am »

There was definitely a noticeable amount of more red at Anfield compared to many of my other visits (barring some CL games). Great to see.

GinKop · « **Reply #365 on:** March 31, 2014, 11:28:12 am »

Easily the best I've seen in what feels like years (the last off the top of my head was Carling Cup semi against Man City at home).

Keep it up to all those going to the games...like the players are doing, each game needs to be louder, more fiery and redder than the last.

Let's do this kopites.

paul211b · « **Reply #366 on:** March 31, 2014, 11:36:00 am »

Was watching on TV and before kickoff while singing YNWA, you could see the Spurs players looking about thinking "f'in hell....." they looked nervous.

RedRedTom · « **Reply #367 on:** March 31, 2014, 11:38:08 am »

Looking at the photo of the Kop in the pictures thread and I was wondering is the original Make Us Dream banner out of the museum, or has it been remade?

FlashingBlade · « **Reply #368 on:** March 31, 2014, 01:00:07 pm »

Don't forget to sway during YNWA!

GinKop · « **Reply #369 on:** March 31, 2014, 02:55:39 pm »

Quote from: FlashingBlade on March 31, 2014, 01:00:07 pm

Don't forget to sway during YNWA!

Yes!! Bring back the sway.

dave 5516 · « **Reply #370 on:** March 31, 2014, 03:28:06 pm »

Quote from: FlashingBlade on March 31, 2014, 01:00:07 pm

Don't forget to sway during YNWA!

What's going on here?

Bring a scarf,wear red...I haven't worn a scarf since the 75/76 season...and I grew up in the Rd End,so there'll not be any wearing red to the game...

I'll have to read this thread.

Lad · « **Reply #371 on:** March 31, 2014, 03:32:41 pm »

Quote from: dave 5516 on March 31, 2014, 03:28:06 pm

What's going on here?

Bring a scarf,wear red...I haven't worn a scarf since the 75/76 season...and I grew up in the Rd End,so there'll not be any wearing red to the game...

I'll have to read this thread.

Bruges, Wembley 78 last time I wore a red scarf. Too late to start again now. Think it would look more intimidating if everyone wore black personally.

dave 5516 · « **Reply #372 on:** March 31, 2014, 03:51:55 pm »

Quote from: Lad on March 31, 2014, 03:32:41 pm

Bruges, Wembley 78 last time I wore a red scarf. Too late to start again now. Think it would look more intimidating if everyone wore black personally.

The only time I've worn a scarf since the UEFA Cup game against Hibernian at Anfield the year we beat Brugge to win it, was in 77 and that was for me a one off occasion that would never happen again, so I took my fans around the world flags scarf.

I also played football in St Peters square that week.

You know why our generation don't,won't wear scarves..it's just not cool.

As to creating an atmosphere,the atmosphere in the Rd End was brilliant and not a scarf in sight amongst us.Even as a kid on the Kop I don't remember loads of people with scarves..flags yeah.

Anyway we all know what Kopites are....

Lad · « **Reply #373 on:** March 31, 2014, 03:57:05 pm »

Quote from: dave 5516 on March 31, 2014, 03:51:55 pm

The only time I've worn a scarf since the UEFA Cup game against Hibernian at Anfield the year we beat Brugge to win it, was in 77 and that was for me a one off occasion that would never happen again, so I took my fans around the world flags scarf.

I also played football in St Peters square that week.

You know why our generation don't,won't wear scarves..it's just nout cool.

As to creating an atmosphere,the atmosphere in the Rd End was brilliant and not a scarf in sight amongst us.Even as a kid on the Kop I don't remember loads of people with scarves..flags yeah.

Anyway we all know what Kopites are....

Yeah I was a Road Ender too. Started off in the middle of the Kop but then found my true status down the other end. Loved the Anny Road. It's different now...sadly.

dave 5516 · « **Reply #374 on:** March 31, 2014, 04:15:45 pm »

Quote from: Lad on March 31, 2014, 03:57:05 pm

Yeah I was a Road Ender too. Started off in the middle of the Kop but then found my true status down the other end. Loved the Anny Road. It's different now...sadly.

Yeah.I'ts part of the entertainment industry instead of a game.

The main reason..I think, the atmosphere is as it is is because the cycle that we were part of has died and did so the day they made stadiums all seater.

You and everybody else will have a story like mine to tell.

I was taken to the ground by my grandad when I was 3 and I still remember coming up the steps out onto the Kemlyn and seeing the pitch for he first time..it was so green.

Later when I can stand my uncles take me on the Rd End after that the Boys Pen then the Kop.

That right of passage,which I think should be a right every Scouse kid should have or be able to have,that's gone now and there's generations of kids in the city who'll never experience it.

The natural displacement that took place in the ground doesn't happen now...there's no boisterous,loud,young kids taking the places as the older supporters moved to other parts of the as that we did...there's no longer any migration from the Kop.

That doesn't happen now does it.

No amount of scarves will ever replace the ebullience that being young brings to the ground.

MrRaptorTurtle · « **Reply #375 on:** March 31, 2014, 04:25:46 pm »

How the fuck can someone be against wearing a Liverpool shirt to a Liverpool game? It truly baffles me!
Wear whatever you want to the match but 'ridiculing' or 'mocking' people who wear Liverpool shirts to the game are pathetic, stop moaning about what other people are wearing and support your fucking team!

dave 5516 · « **Reply #376 on:** March 31, 2014, 04:40:55 pm »

Quote from: Wrigley on October 29, 2013, 05:46:59 pm

Personally I think being against the official shirt is too divisive. Traditionally Liverpool fans would not wear a shirt (before replica became popular) and I think backlash against the shirt is backlash against the Club Corporate Machine.

To be fair though Anfield has a more interesting cultural identity than simply the club shirt.

Our Ultra's back in the day (at the birth of the casual movement) would wear Adidas Trainees (Often robbed from boutiques on the continent on European Away trips) Levi 501 jeans and a cagoule with a sharp haircut.

What are these..these had nothing to do with what started as a culture amongst us as we went to Europe and was picked up by other Scousers..male and female.

Scallys is the word we used..from the word scallywag.The word casual is a media invention to pigeon hole a working class culture that came from working class kids and had nothing to do with the fashion industry.

Replace Lois with Levis and you've got it right...I can't recall anyone ever wearing Levi 501's in fact I don't think they were readily available in this country.

Boss avatar la.

dave 5516 · « **Reply #377 on:** March 31, 2014, 04:44:26 pm »

Quote from: MrRaptorTurtle on March 31, 2014, 04:25:46 pm

How the fuck can someone be against wearing a Liverpool shirt to a Liverpool game? It truly baffles me!
Wear whatever you want to the match but 'ridiculing' or 'mocking' people who wear Liverpool shirts to the game are pathetic, stop moaning about what other people are wearing and support your fucking team!

I don't care what you wear or where you from...just understand that for some Reds of my generation and some of the ones that followed wearing a scarf or a shirt are an anathema to us.

FlashingBlade · « **Reply #378 on:** March 31, 2014, 04:48:16 pm »

Quote from: FlashingBlade on October 31, 2013, 10:29:28 pm

'Scousers,Scousers! where's your scarf's!?'
- Paddock Mancs to Liverpool fans in the Score board end,Old Trafford circa 1980

Oh! how we laughed at those scarf bedecked, donkey jacket wearing, Air Weir booted fools, the following year , they too had shed their scarfs...a trend, nay! a culture, led by our very own had separated the knowing smarter fan from the scarf wearing horde...but that was then and this is now.

I don't know when I started wearing a scarf , but I certainly stopped in the late Seventies...however, I left behind fond memories .... my Kevin Keegan Silky...once tied around the wrist it ended up a Gordian Knot....my mam in her wisdom once washed it...the streak on Kevins faced made him look like a Bizzaro world Keegan....my main scarf in the mid to late seventies, like Kavah was the pinstriped fans around the world flags ..worn, naturally hanging down the side of your Birmo's!.. a gem..I loved that scarf, it enjoyed cup finals, league wins etc ...until some twat stole it on the way to a Liverpool away European game....stole it off the fucking coach whilst still in Liverpool!!

But there can only be one, my pride and joy, if ever , god forbid my house is on fire I will get my family out first and will ensure only one item comes with us...My St.Etienne Scarf...the ziz-zag Allez Les Verts one ( gentlemen of a certain vintage will know what I mean) ..swapped it before that game ...a bloke offered me £20 for it afterwards...£20 in 1977!!....no way! ...that scarf embodies everything I cherish about that period.... defines that moment when we became the Bastion of Invincibility...Ive only worn it once in the intervening 36 years...the Kops last stand....promised meself I would wear it at the last game if we left Anfield...maybe, maybe I will get to wear it to see us lift the League again at Anfield...if not... I will wear it , finally , one more time.....it goes with me.

Since then only one momentus moment caused me to don a scarf...I couldn't help meself ...and Im bloody glad I did as I held it aloft during YNWA in Istanbul.

Scarfs will always equal Wool to me....so its not something for me , nor I suggest a certain generation of Scousers..but feel free to go with it...cos you may find that if that magic moment finally arrives and we win the league and the Kop breaks into YNWA a load of fifty-something non scarf wearing Scousers will be asking to hold one end of your scarf!

..and sway!

dave 5516 · « **Reply #379 on:** March 31, 2014, 04:50:01 pm »

Quote from: MrRaptorTurtle on March 31, 2014, 04:25:46 pm

How the fuck can someone be against wearing a Liverpool shirt to a Liverpool game? It truly baffles me!
Wear whatever you want to the match but 'ridiculing' or 'mocking' people who wear Liverpool shirts to the game are pathetic, stop moaning about what other people are wearing and support your fucking team!

And it also appies to some supporters from other clubs.

I was on a bike ride on Saturday and was cycling down the A 6 and passed an escorted group of Wigan lads being taken up the rd to Bolton's ground...all mid 20's and not a shirt or scarf amongst them.

And you can't get much more wool than being from Wigan.

I'm a Wigan Warriors fan by the way.

dave 5516 · « **Reply #380 on:** March 31, 2014, 04:55:40 pm »

Quote from: FlashingBlade on March 31, 2014, 04:48:16 pm

..and sway!

As always FB....a fantastic post.

I'm just reading through the thread...it's getting a bit locals/oot where I'm up to...never seen the point.I remember lads from different places in the Rd End..there was even two girls who went everywhere with us,sisters from Nottingham and they used to get masses of abuse back home for being Reds...especially from 78 on.

the 92A · « **Reply #381 on:** March 31, 2014, 04:57:44 pm »

Never wore a scarf or colours since the early seventies when we ditched our three star jumpers and parallels. No problem with youngsters wearing what the fuck they want. Scarf or no scarf still probably one of the loudest at the match, Banners have always had scarves off anyhow.

boots · « **Reply #382 on:** March 31, 2014, 04:57:57 pm »

Yeah, Lois with frayed ends.

I never called em casuals, they were 'soul boys' to me as a scooterboy. Not proper soul either. That Level 42 shite and Caister soul shite. Bloody suede Gabbicci's etc. Wank. I hate the lot of yez.

Oh and there was a Wrangler period. But it was Lois Jeans mainly as I recall.

dave 5516 · « **Reply #383 on:** March 31, 2014, 05:21:59 pm »

Quote from: Wrigley on October 30, 2013, 05:42:08 pm

Straw Man Central in this thread.

-Colours have no correlation with volume.

-To my knowledge casuals are not against scarves.

80% of UK Adidas sales in the late 70's were in Liverpool, if that's not tradition I don't now what is.

swerve Green Street, something a litter closer to home, although the film describes Tranmere fans it was based on Kevin Sampson's novel "Away Days" a book about the late 70's casual movement in Anfield.

Beat's the tourist shirts anyday, scarves are sound though.

I'm not picking on you la...but that's a shit book and worse film about some bad wools.

Watch I.D. and especially the Alan Clarke film, The Firm...that's very close to what it was like.

dave 5516 · « **Reply #384 on:** March 31, 2014, 05:35:56 pm »

Quote from: JTK on November 1, 2013, 10:56:32 am

So basically, you wore scarfs up until it was suddenly was seen as 'uncool', and then used it as a stick to beat other teams fans with? Not having a go by the way, I think it's funny

It was a great post, but good luck getting red back on the kop, as the post does really represents the attitude you were trying to counter with your 'Wear Red, Bring a Scarf' campaign.

We stopped wearing scarves because it made it easier to go on the rob.

The reason was to stop the police and other clubs fans from knowing who we were.

It was hard enough going away as we already stood out because of how we dressed had our hair cut,it wasn't anything to do with being cool,more an expedient(in the true sense of the word) for our away trips.

Ginamos · « **Reply #385 on:** March 31, 2014, 05:43:19 pm »

Quote from: boots on March 31, 2014, 04:57:57 pm

Yeah, Lois with frayed ends.

I never called em casuals, they were 'soul boys' to me as a scooterboy. Not proper soul either. That Level 42 shite and Caister soul shite. Bloody suede Gabbicci's etc. Wank. I hate the lot of yez.

Oh and there was a Wrangler period. But it was Lois Jeans mainly as I recall.

Hadn't thought about the Lois/Wrangler thing for years. They were "Soul Boys" to me, liked something called Jazz/Funk that was neither Jazz nor Funk.

Yozza1 · « **Reply #386 on:** March 31, 2014, 05:45:28 pm »

Any excuse to post this video- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNboU_PbZMY

To the ones questioning the style of fans and what was worn by the Road End boys back in the day, read The Boys from the Mersey written by Nicky Allt.

jslice · « **Reply #387 on:** March 31, 2014, 05:52:33 pm »

Quote from: Yozza1 on March 31, 2014, 05:45:28 pm

Any excuse to post this video- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNboU_PbZMY

To the ones questioning the style of fans and what was worn by the Road End boys back in the day, read The Boys from the Mersey written by Nicky Allt.

wow, just wow. made the hairs on my arm stand up

rakey_lfc · « **Reply #388 on:** March 31, 2014, 05:55:30 pm »

Quote from: Yozza1 on March 31, 2014, 05:45:28 pm

Any excuse to post this video- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNboU_PbZMY

To the ones questioning the style of fans and what was worn by the Road End boys back in the day, read The Boys from the Mersey written by Nicky Allt.

Not one spot of red. Whoppers!

Xabidodger · « **Reply #389 on:** March 31, 2014, 06:26:56 pm »

This thread is starting to resemble the Ins and Outs section of The End. ( A good thing by the way).

Outs

Denim Bags made by Mike Baldwin ( that was one of my favs)

As for me, the last shirt I had had Crown Paints on it, scarf for big games - mine is the scarf I was bought for my first game in 1981, made by Umbro, blood stains from an epic nose bleed at The Milk Cup Final 84. Only big games. Although if a silky scarves made a come back, I would wear that everywhere.

dave 5516 · « **Reply #390 on:** March 31, 2014, 06:33:59 pm »

Quote from: FlashingBlade on November 1, 2013, 05:54:18 pm

Just a couple of points , that if I had time I would expand further:

Firstly it was never the 'casual' look , that was a label applied by the media and Johnny come lately's...we where Scals, Scallies and firstly 'Scallywags' fuck all to do with casual

It started in the Road End late seventies and quickly a city thing...its was some time before it became national with other teams . Its well documented and any fan should know this , its our culture!!

It was fuck all with looking 'cool' ..ok a bit...but it was driven by wit, intelligence and Liverpool identity , a thing of being smarter than the rest..looking different .....and maybe twatting other fans and robbing things....it would have been a bona fide youth culture if it had had a dedicated music scene associated with it..........and more girls!

The Kop now is not a recreation of the past...its now culture is its own, the songs sung ,the banners, they may be nods to the past but its the Kops culture now....I think Liverpool fans reinvented themselves in 2001 with the banners and songs...so if more scarfs are desired , fine...but don't ever dismiss the Scouse heart of this club...if Scouser's are belligerent, raucous and self opinionated and believe ourselves to be different to the rest of the UK then that will be reflected in how we support our team....that's how it is, we are not the happy clappy brigade....live with it.

'Some are born Scouse and some have Scouse'ness thrust upon them'
- Shakespeare, Twelth Night

Should have read through the thread before posting anything...could have just put the ubiquitous "what he said"

FB had the same experiences most of us had,same mindset,clubs and pubs visited...Probe Records...

Apart rom the girls that is..I went out with a girl who wore Lois,Jesus jumbo cords(I robbed for her from a shop on Oxford St) Gola trainers with a yellow flash and always Fiorucci tops....The first thing she ever said to me was in Cindys "where'd you get them trainees.

dave 5516 · « **Reply #391 on:** March 31, 2014, 06:36:11 pm »

Quote from: Yozza1 on March 31, 2014, 05:45:28 pm

Any excuse to post this video- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNboU_PbZMY

To the ones questioning the style of fans and what was worn by the Road End boys back in the day, read The Boys from the Mersey written by Nicky Allt.

Quote from: jslice on March 31, 2014, 05:52:33 pm

wow, just wow. made the hairs on my arm stand up

And not a scarf in sight....

Fat Scouser · « **Reply #392 on:** March 31, 2014, 06:54:31 pm »

In the 60's I wore a scarf me Nan knitted when I was a kid. I wish I still had it. It was made out of aul unravelled sweaters and felt like a brick. I sold scarfs out of an Echo bag round the pubs in the 70's. When I manage to get to a match nowadays, I wear me justice scarf now. I'm not cool.

Black Bull Nova · « **Reply #393 on:** March 31, 2014, 06:58:53 pm »

The crowd (home and away) will be the most important extra ingredient that we have this year, let's make sure we bring out the best on the pitch and ensure that if we are struggling at any time in the next 6 games that the supporters play their part. We are Liverpool.

Fat Scouser · « **Reply #394 on:** March 31, 2014, 07:01:20 pm »

Ha! Just thought of something, I wonder how many stopped wearing scarfs after the silkies we used to sell left LFC tidemarks round their necks and Ben Shermans. Obie's revenge.

Glass Kites · « **Reply #395 on:** March 31, 2014, 07:01:30 pm »

I didn't used to take a scarf - but since this thread was started I must admit that I take one to each game now without fail (warm or freezing). I've headed back home before now to go back and get it.

Lad · « **Reply #396 on:** March 31, 2014, 07:11:57 pm »

Quote from: Fat Scouser on March 31, 2014, 07:01:20 pm

Ha! Just thought of something, I wonder how many stopped wearing scarfs after the silkies we used to sell left LFC tidemarks round their necks and Ben Shermans. Obie's revenge.

Silkie's..... The scarf to be seen wearing in 70's Liverpool. Easy to shove into your pocket in times of crisis at dodgy cities like Leeds and other Neanderthal places as well !!!!!

Redric1970 · « **Reply #397 on:** March 31, 2014, 07:40:00 pm »

Slightly off topic, biggest pain I ever had clothing wise was when I went to highbury, I think we won 2-1 Aldridge and Steve nicol header from the edge of the box, I couldn't get A ticket in our end so got one in the north bank, the game finishes and you know what it was like on the terrace you move with the tide, I was walking out and my trainers came off, shit no way of getting them, soggy horrible journey home.

Alan_X · « **Reply #398 on:** March 31, 2014, 07:45:47 pm »

Quote from: Yozza1 on March 31, 2014, 05:45:28 pm

Any excuse to post this video- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNboU_PbZMY

To the ones questioning the style of fans and what was worn by the Road End boys back in the day, read The Boys from the Mersey written by Nicky Allt.

That's the home made trophy isn't it?

http://theinsideleft.com/liverpool-and-the-curlett-cup/

ElmAnfield · « **Reply #399 on:** March 31, 2014, 07:46:51 pm »

Don't know how to put it on here but go on youtube LFC v Spurs 4-0 Halftime Pub Bucharest- further evidence of our army as Brendan called the 530 million!!!!!!