Topic: True Detective - HBO Drama

[Pistolero]

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1722001/true-detective-long-take.jhtml

 

good read that...didn't realise it was the guy who directed Sin Nombre...cracking movie, well worth seeking out

[ShatnersBassoon]

good read that...didn't realise it was the guy who directed Sin Nombre...cracking movie, well worth seeking out

he's also doing a remake of stephen kings It 

[gallden]

Well that last one was some of the most intense television I've ever seen.  Haven't been that tense since Walter White found out Skyler gave his money away. 

[thegoodfella]

Well that last one was some of the most intense television I've ever seen.  Haven't been that tense since Walter White found out Skyler gave his money away. 

It wasn't as tense for me and I will tell you why, we already know that it ended fine for them, or at least that they didn't get killed since they are recounting what happened during the investigation. But still, that was some great television. McConaughey is on a different level these last couple of years.

[sideshowme]

It wasn't as tense for me and I will tell you why, we already know that it ended fine for them, or at least that they didn't get killed since they are recounting what happened during the investigation. But still, that was some great television. McConaughey is on a different level these last couple of years.

true, but we haven't seen them stand up yet in the future (i don't think, anyway... and the camera angle on cohle is always the same too?) so some other nasty effects could have been caused.  might be wrong on all that, of course.

[gallden]

true, but we haven't seen them stand up yet in the future (i don't think, anyway... and the camera angle on cohle is always the same too?) so some other nasty effects could have been caused.  might be wrong on all that, of course.

Didn't they show him walking in next episodes trailer?

[sideshowme]

Didn't they show him walking in next episodes trailer?

oh.  i don't think i saw that.  i sit corrected. although if it's next episode it doesn't remove the element of risk from the long shot in the current episode

[Macphisto80]

If Tarantno had done a scene like the last few minutes, critics would be wanking over it, and people would be talking about it for years.

[OsirisMVZ]

I can assure you a lot of the internet fanbase is wanking over it already.

[Dan Dando]

If Tarantno had done a scene like the last few minutes, critics would be wanking over it, and people would be talking about it for years.

To be fair - I've noticed a lot of praise/buzz for the show since the fourth episode. Articles like this are surfacing now.

http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/02/-em-true-detective-em-the-best-show-on-tv/283727/

[sideshowme]

I can assure you a lot of the internet fanbase is wanking over it already.

that's the effect daddario has, i guess...

[Dan Dando]

that's the effect daddario has, i guess...

Ironically, most of the folks on Tumblr going bonkers over that scene are female fans of the Percy Jackson films, speculating as to whether Logan Lerman has seen them in the flesh, so to speak. Silliness 

[sideshowme]

Ironically, most of the folks on Tumblr going bonkers over that scene are female fans of the Percy Jackson films, speculating as to whether Logan Lerman has seen them in the flesh, so to speak. Silliness 

whatever did we do before the internet, eh...

[N-Red]

that's the effect daddario has, i guess...

Woody Harrelson is living the dream, Michelle Monaghan and Alexandra Daddario. 

[Melbred]

It was still tense for me, even with that knowledge.  The flow of the scene made me forget the facts!

Yeah, I think the director is on record saying that the best scene is where you don't even realise it's just one take. That scene was utterly brilliant and made me forget that we already know Ruste would be making through it alive and that it was all shot in one take.

The tension was all still there for me.

[tonysleft]

What did Rust mean by "I tell myself I bear witness"?

[red mongoose]

What did Rust mean by "I tell myself I bear witness"?

I don't remember what scene that line is from, but given Rust's disdain for religion, I would imagine it has something to do with the fact that the individual is the master of his own destiny - or even more simply, there is no God to bear witness to. It has something to do with his atheism, surely.

[tonysleft]

I don't remember what scene that line is from, but given Rust's disdain for religion, I would imagine it has something to do with the fact that the individual is the master of his own destiny - or even more simply, there is no God to bear witness to. It has something to do with his atheism, surely.

It was from that long conversation in the car scene where Rust expounds on his pessimism and antinatalism, and Marty asks him why he hasn't killed himself yet. Bit of an ambiguous answer from him. I doubt if it could apply to the religion thing though, because he doesn't go off on one about religion until they attend the preacher's mass.

[Dan Dando]

What did Rust mean by "I tell myself I bear witness"?

Reminds me of something George Carlin once said... "I'm divorced from it now (the goings on of life in the US) - I see it from a distance. I gave myself a divorce. I say to myself... George, emotionally, you have no stake in this, you don't care one way or another, so watch it, have fun."

I kinda butchered the quote a bit there but I just took it as meaning that he's just simply going to be an observer of things in his life-time since he "lacks the constitution" for the alternative. Even though he disapproves (well, at least this is what he claims) of the human race and whatnot, he's going to stick around for the ride and watch it all like he's... "got a ticket to the freak-show." (another Carlin quote)

[Mr Dilkington]

Just watched all of these back to back - what a great show.

The imagery is probably the most striking thing for me; the painting on the church wall was properly eerie. The acting, as has been mentioned is absolutely terrific. And I can't remember a TV show that's been so consistently well shot and directed.

Episode 4 is the weakest of them all though. Despite that incredible final scene, the stuff before that is really heavy handed and uncalled for. The moment when Ginger says 'if you help us with this, then...' was properly clunky. I immediately thought of GTA.

Still - what a marvelous show - if it carries on like this then it'll go down as an all timer.

[Jehst1979]

This show is fucking amazing, i'm 3 episodes in, utterly hooked, episode 3 was stunning!

[OsirisMVZ]

I love the imagery too. There's already a bleak, "envirogothic" theme to it, and then you realise that everything they're doing, finding, building, taking apart, walking upon and running from is all going to be washed away by Hurricane Katrina ten years later anyway.

Bleak and hopeless, just how I like it

[Brentieke]

Just watched the first episode.

Anyone notice the homage to the Wire when Woody says "Im just a normal cop, with a big ass dick"?

[capt k]

Just watched the first episode.

Anyone notice the homage to the Wire when Woody says "Im just a normal cop, with a big ass dick"?

Noticed that, also see "Bowtie"{Brother Musaun} and the "bowlegged mutherfucker" Lester Freeman got a role in this, been quite a few actors from the Wire who have gone on to other shows for HBO just shows how good that show and the actors where.

[Dan Dando]

Episode five (Nic Pizzolatto's favourite of the series, apparently) is a matter of hours away 

[Geormajesty]

Seeing as I'm gonna be awake; are there any streams for this knocking around?

[Twelfth Man]

Fuck what an episode! I think those that loved the slower more subtle opening three will love this. I have my idea of how this will end.

Spoiler

This goes to the top, recall the visit by the mayor in episode 2 at the police station (the Yellow King), charlie saying rich men go to this place to devil worship, ritual sacrifices, the task force (cover), the prisoner who kills himself all say 'big people' are involved. It is going to come back to the Mayor, I think*

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[SamAteTheRedAcid]

Just downloading now.

Can't wait!

[Redcap]

Spoiler

Well we know Cohle didn't do it now.

I wonder if the two interviewing detectives are actually involved in some way.

Whatever happened, it's sure very strange that Cohle would have spent 10 years investigating this case without finishing it off.

It seems most likely that it's just going to be some sort of criminal conspiracy that goes to the Governor's office. That would be disappointing for how obvious it is, after everything that's happened.

[close]

3 to go. I really hope the solution is not a disappointing one.

Also, tweeted by Patton Oswalt:
https://twitter.com/pattonoswalt/status/435281253789487104/photo/1

[matlfc]

Has anyone read about the links to The yellow king and HP Lovecraft?

[Redcap]

Has anyone read about the links to The yellow king and HP Lovecraft?

I read the extracted stanzas that are now everywhere online. I like them very much.

Daily Beast analysis of episode 5.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/02/16/true-detective-episode-5-review-the-secret-fate-of-all-life-is-the-best-episode-yet.html

Wall Street Journal analysis

http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2014/02/16/true-detective-season-1-episode-5-the-secret-fate-of-all-life-tv-recap/

[matlfc]

Good read that.

There has been a few references and strange stuff.

The priest crossing himself backwards etc...

[red mongoose]

Spoiler

It's telling that Rust called them "Company men" when he was leaving the interview - there's definitely some bent coppers/politicians involved. I want to read those articles, but I'm saving myself to watch the episodes, just in case. I hate spoilers 

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[red mongoose]

Fuck what an episode! I think those that loved the slower more subtle opening three will love this. I have my idea of how this will end.

Spoiler

This goes to the top, recall the visit by the mayor in episode 2 at the police station (the Yellow King), charlie saying rich men go to this place to devil worship, ritual sacrifices, the task force (cover), the prisoner who kills himself all say 'big people' are involved. It is going to come back to the Mayor, I think*

[close]

Good shout, 12. I think you may be right 

[Geormajesty]

Has anyone read about the links to The yellow king and HP Lovecraft?

There's a decent piece about them here.

http://io9.com/the-one-literary-reference-you-must-know-to-appreciate-1523076497

[RedSince86]

This was the  best episode so far.

[Chris~]

Fuck what an episode! I think those that loved the slower more subtle opening three will love this. I have my idea of how this will end.

Spoiler

This goes to the top, recall the visit by the mayor in episode 2 at the police station (the Yellow King), charlie saying rich men go to this place to devil worship, ritual sacrifices, the task force (cover), the prisoner who kills himself all say 'big people' are involved. It is going to come back to the Mayor, I think*

[close]

Spoiler

I'm guessing that Rev. Tuttle is involved.  He's the one who wanted the task force that Rust thinks are involved and the school was part of his foundation

[close]

The show has a great ability to create tension in the flashbacks despite knowing that the main characters are telling them. Gutted their are only 3 episodes left.

[Twelfth Man]

Spoiler

I'm guessing that Rev. Tuttle is involved.  He's the one who wanted the task force that Rust thinks are involved and the school was part of his foundation

[close]

The show has a great ability to create tension in the flashbacks despite knowing that the main characters are telling them.

Spoiler

He was the guy that visited the police station in episode two right? I thought he was the mayor or some shit. I had an inkling it would come down to him after the third episode.

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[Agger]

Awesome episode.

[SerbianScouser]

Brilliant show.

Got a real Twin Peaks vibe to it in terms of how the story is developing.