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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #80 on: November 20, 2012, 09:49:24 pm »
to be fair I didn't say keep his nose clean , I just said don't get caught :D

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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #81 on: November 20, 2012, 09:54:33 pm »
to be fair I didn't say keep his nose clean , I just said don't get caught :D
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Re: Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #82 on: November 20, 2012, 10:02:18 pm »
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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #83 on: November 20, 2012, 10:06:52 pm »
Yep. Rolled a couple of doubles and got straight back into the game.
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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #84 on: November 21, 2012, 02:10:48 am »
Cheers for the plaudits guys ;D - just kidding . Obviously would be much better all round if I was unable to tell the story but I did look around quite a lot and make mental notes of everything. If anyone's got any sort of general questions I might be able to answer, just ask - I read a lot about prisons in general and crime books inside and obviously have some first hand experience.

Just thinking of a few things as well for the lad when he returns. I forgot to mention time out of your cell in a C Cat. If you end up in jail, the B Cat is as bad as it gets for you. No matter how down you feel about the situation, just know that as soon as they put you on the sweatbox again, it only gets better from there (despite obviously still being in prison!). I wish I had known how much better the C Cat's were before I left. In a C Cat you'd find the whole housing block of the prison open from like 3-7pm, allowing you to move from dorm to dorm, to say hello to people, call friends and family whenever you want etc, which is a lot better than trying to do it within an hour. You can get a job cleaning your wing, or running the servery (food). There is education if you need it for I.T courses and that, and you can do Open University in there as well I think. There are jobs, you only earn like £6-8 a week for five 4 hour shifts, but it's a chance to get out of your cell and doing something. The day can drag if you just lie in bed all day! If you are in during the summer, and get a gardening job, you've made it.

Like others have said. Don't lend tobacco off people, unless your relationship has formed like it would with a mate on the outside and trust is there. I was with a guy who was having loads of money sent in, and he'd buy me tobacco and allow me to pay exactly the same back when my situation was better. Most people will try and double bubble you, which means if they give you something, you give two of the same thing back to them. You can run into debts this way.

Most of the violence I saw centred around the control and selling of drugs. My two cell mates used to smoke weed when it came in, I didn't and you probably wouldn't be able to either because you'll be on a drug course like me and be getting tested each week - so I wouldn't risk it if I was you - as it can complicate your own sentence (you go onto basic, or can get time added on, normally 28 days) and because you don't really want to get into any trouble. Don't trust anyone (which should be obvious as you'll be surrounded by criminals  ;D) but I had my tobacco robbed off me in my first week in the C Cat. Be nice, but don't think because everyone's smiling they won't take your possessions when your not looking. Although saying that there is a camaraderie about prisoners if you end up on a good wing, because I got it back once everyone found out who the culprit was- who had a history - most likely because I was fairly young looking and a decent enough guy.

Don't believe everyone about their sentence. And try not to get too close to anyone for these reasons. One of my early best mates it turned out was in for raping a little boy - he had come from Littlehey a notorious sexual offender prison (sometimes a lot get sent there for their own safety as other jails exact their own form of justice), but not everyone at Littlehey is in for those reasons. I initially took him at his word for being in for 'something to do with his girlfriend', but it was a screw who revealed to everyone what he was actually in for. That's a situation I'd rather not be in ever again, as I felt sympathy for him, as he got beat up bad on C wing, B Wing and F wing before being "shipped out" (sent to another prison), but he had also committed a horrendous and unforgivable act which I only found out about after I grew to like him. There were two others like that, one appearing on the front page of the Scum- and looking back, it's easy to tell to be honest as their stories of their crimes are pretty shit and normally pretty vague.

The reason you can tell people are lying (I was naive) is that you can't get released on tag for the more serious of offences as I learnt later. You have to serve half the sentence definitely, so if they say are in for something that tag should be available for and you ask to see their papers, they wont' be able to produce them. So they'll have to make up something like they were carrying a knife or something to make their crime seem plausible.

Speaking of which, you'll serve hardly any of the sentence you get. I was given 16 months for supply and 12 months for possession with intent - these ran con currently (I didn't even know what this meant till 4 days into my sentence  ;D) - but basically they run together, so my sentence was only 16 months (I thought I'd got 28 months). You'll likely be eligible for tag, and you'll get this information a couple of weeks after you arrive in prison. Of my 16 months, I only served 4 months, which sounds embarrassing but it was long enough for me let me tell you that! I did the remaining 4 months of my sentence on tag.

I got enhanced very quickly, because I did nothing wrong and I was really pleasant to the screws (although don't be overly pleasant, inmates will get nasty to you but in a C Cat there is no need to be nasty to them) and I completed the drugs course while I was inside. For tag, you will have to go and sit a board before they recommend you, I can't recall if some input is given by the guys that do the drugs course or your S/O but I imagine it might be . This is like 2-3 people who just ask you questions on your feelings and how you feel about what you've done. If it's your first offence, and you've made a concerted effort inside to do well, you'll breeze through and be out very quickly. That's an excellent moment.

I was looking at 10th April 2011 the earliest I could get out if I got tag, or 10th August 2011 if I served half the sentence. I was counting down to 10th of August, so when I got the letter through that I had been recommended for tag, it was a pretty exciting day, as you had a confirmed release date, that's the annoying thing, while you PROBABLY will get out on that date, you don't know for certain until the bit of paper in front of you prepares you for your release and has a confirmed date on it, and then the end of the tunnel is in sight. The release date is boss btw as well. I had to be in my house by 3pm on the day though, but we managed to get into my local pub before I had to be at probation, where the landlord who is a big friend of mine sorted me and my old man out a few free pints!

« Last Edit: November 21, 2012, 02:40:44 am by Hij »
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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #85 on: November 21, 2012, 05:49:08 am »
Once again a very insightful post Hij.
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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #86 on: November 21, 2012, 07:57:09 am »
Hij, I wish the words thank you weren't so overused because I'm truly grateful for the time you've taken to type up those posts, brother. I've read what you've written a couple of times, and I'll be reading those posts again before my crown court date on the 30th. Makes me feel a lot better knowing what to expect, and your practical advice is proper helpful too.

I've got loads of questions to be honest man, I hope you don't mind me badgering you over the next ten days! My main focus at the moment is a meeting I have to have tomorrow with something called a probation officer. I don't really know what to expect other than it's someone who is going to be asking me what I did and why. What sort of questions will they ask me? Should I go in wearing a suit tomorrow, or just jeans etc?

Thanks again for your response, and to everyone else who has too. When Anfield sings You'll Never Walk Alone it is not a lie.
« Last Edit: November 21, 2012, 08:23:13 am by Yasar »
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Re: Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #87 on: November 21, 2012, 08:58:31 am »
Hij, I wish the words thank you weren't so overused because I'm truly grateful for the time you've taken to type up those posts, brother. I've read what you've written a couple of times, and I'll be reading those posts again before my crown court date on the 30th. Makes me feel a lot better knowing what to expect, and your practical advice is proper helpful too.

I've got loads of questions to be honest man, I hope you don't mind me badgering you over the next ten days! My main focus at the moment is a meeting I have to have tomorrow with something called a probation officer. I don't really know what to expect other than it's someone who is going to be asking me what I did and why. What sort of questions will they ask me? Should I go in wearing a suit tomorrow, or just jeans etc?

Thanks again for your response, and to everyone else who has too. When Anfield sings You'll Never Walk Alone it is not a lie.
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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #88 on: November 21, 2012, 09:10:48 am »
Hij, I wish the words thank you weren't so overused because I'm truly grateful for the time you've taken to type up those posts, brother...

...Thanks again for your response, and to everyone else who has too. When Anfield sings You'll Never Walk Alone it is not a lie.

You two lads should exchange mobile numbers via PM. If you get sent down you've got someone you can contact who knows the score. When you get out you can start dealing together meet up and thank him in person for the advice.  :P


If you're both okay with it you might find it helpful to have someone on the outside who know what you're dealing with on the inside. :wave

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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #89 on: November 21, 2012, 09:48:34 am »
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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #90 on: November 21, 2012, 10:10:15 am »


youre 22, you are not going to a young offenders lad.

wouldnt even stress over the voilence part, there is more bellends in jail than hardcases.

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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #91 on: November 21, 2012, 10:13:34 am »
in reading back Hij has covered it for you.
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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #92 on: November 21, 2012, 12:35:39 pm »
Edit: Actually, after my brother read this post and PM'd me, we both agree you are right about having a 50-50 chance of jail. So I wouldn't go in expecting to walk out, but if you do, treat it as a bonus. So make SURE you pack a bag. Put smokes there if you smoke, I'd recommend rolling baccy as it lasts longer, nothing excessive, perhaps two ounces, some of your own clothes, trackie bottoms and that. Some jails allow your own bedding, some don't.

Great post - but the OP will be gutted about your little "edit" at the end.
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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #93 on: November 21, 2012, 12:52:37 pm »
Great post - but the OP will be gutted about your little "edit" at the end.

Better a cruel truth than a comfortable delusion!
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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #94 on: November 21, 2012, 12:55:32 pm »
Sounds interesting, I'd like to read it if you do manage to find it.

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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=136858

makes a really interesting read if am honest

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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #95 on: November 21, 2012, 01:22:13 pm »
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=136858

makes a really interesting read if am honest

Good read man, makes me really thankful I'm not going to American prison!
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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #96 on: November 21, 2012, 01:39:41 pm »
Very interesting reads, thanks Hij!


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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #97 on: November 21, 2012, 01:39:56 pm »
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=136858

makes a really interesting read if am honest
I never want to go to prison.
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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #98 on: November 21, 2012, 03:57:37 pm »
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=136858

makes a really interesting read if am honest

Shit.

Compelling reading.

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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #99 on: November 21, 2012, 04:48:17 pm »
I would never, ever, have imagined me being drawn to a thread like this. Instead I find myself fixated by it. It's an almost perversely fascinating glimpse into a world that we probably all hope we'll never encounter.

As Pistolero mentions, it is absolutely compelling, both on a human level and an 'I always wanted to ask, but never met the right person' level.

Hij - one of the Off-Topic posts of the year for me mate (if not the whole board). Thanks for sharing - I'm sure not everyone would be as forthcoming as you were. Just think 5 years ago when we went to watch the Arsenal what the future would hold for you. Was quite surprised when you pulled out 17 grands worth of used 20's to pay me for your ticket, but didn't think anything of it at the time...

And this...

Is a magnificent response to the OP. Every time I read it I properly smile :D

Yea I echo this - I've always wondered what the script would be getting sent down, how bad it is, is it just boring, how to get your head down the first few days and what how things work like money and what you can take in with you.

Its my worst nightmare to be honest and something I hope like most of us I never have to do but a very interesting thread I  keep on checking it - gonna read the other link when i get home from work cos its blocked.

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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #100 on: November 21, 2012, 05:25:30 pm »
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=136858

makes a really interesting read if am honest

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« Reply #102 on: November 21, 2012, 06:34:00 pm »
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makes a really interesting read if am honest
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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #103 on: November 21, 2012, 07:15:23 pm »
Amazing post Hij. I have often wondered what it would be like to be inside - who else but RAWK to provide the explanation. Does not sound a good experience by any stretch of the imagination.
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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #104 on: November 21, 2012, 07:36:32 pm »
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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #105 on: November 21, 2012, 09:23:55 pm »
Been a few times myself, nothing to be proud of, its a waste of life and very boring. You probally will get some shit mate, wont lie to you, everyone does. Just  dont show your scared or you'll get it all the time. Dont trust anyone, dont lend anything off anyone, keep your head down and dont mouth off and you'll be fine. You'll pick up how to act and who's who in the grand scheme of things. Mostly though its just boring, really boring. Do as many things as you can there, get a job, take advantage of what u can learn etc because it all counts to getting you out. Last time I was in Durham nick you had a playstation 2, can buy games etc for it, you could even have a bath, bolt on the door, bit privacy. You get a listener as well if you need somebody, its just someone to talk to, get things off your chest because its a traumatic thing the first time having your freedom took away! Its just boring mate. All the best, hope it doesnt come to that because no good comes from it!

Just remember isnt half as bad as it is made out to be, you only do two days in there anyway, first day in and day you come home as the saying goes!

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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #107 on: November 22, 2012, 04:22:34 am »
finn

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=136858

makes a really interesting read if am honest

Am I reading this wrong or was he boning his sister?

Then your sister - they might say they'll wait, but you know they won't. I called mine on my second week and told her it was over. Apart from the total shock of going away, I couldn't stand spending every night wondering if she was getting cranked by some other dude. Was one less thing to worry about.

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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #108 on: November 22, 2012, 05:29:44 am »
Am I reading this wrong or was he boning his sister?

Then your sister - they might say they'll wait, but you know they won't. I called mine on my second week and told her it was over. Apart from the total shock of going away, I couldn't stand spending every night wondering if she was getting cranked by some other dude. Was one less thing to worry about.

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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #109 on: November 22, 2012, 05:31:44 am »
finn

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=136858

makes a really interesting read if am honest

That's the one, good find. Fucking terrifying.

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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #110 on: November 22, 2012, 12:23:08 pm »
Great thread some really fascinating posts Hij. To the OP I hope it turns out ok for you whatever happens.

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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #111 on: November 22, 2012, 02:03:49 pm »
As others have said. Not sure what word to use, but this thread is really, I don't know, interesting. Especially the link to the guy who did 18 months, still working myself through that one.

Weirdly fascinating.
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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #112 on: November 22, 2012, 02:56:55 pm »
The Michigan-prison one is indeed terrifying, but he comes across as rather erudite and is very eloquent at times. He laughs off being raped a bit doesn't he though? Unless he's suppressing it. Said something along the lines of (about his Dad and the rape situation): 'As if being raped is the worst thing that can happen to you in prison.' He really gets across the sensation of being on tenterhooks at all times, right on the edge. The American penal system appears to be terrifying.
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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #113 on: November 22, 2012, 03:13:08 pm »
Fuck.

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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #115 on: November 22, 2012, 05:02:58 pm »
Yasar, Good Luck.  I think others have covered most of the main points but there is lots more to tell.  The practical advice about not borrowing anything , canteen etc are really important to remember so you are not bemused.  A decent cellmate is really helpful I am told !.  I had a friend who was banged up with someone who was obsessed with meatloafs bat out of hell - could but much worse things in a cellmate but for 23 hours a day it was pretty wearing.
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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #116 on: November 23, 2012, 09:47:13 pm »
Yes I can imagine how it goes.

Day 1- Got my own cell. Spent the whole night wanking.

Day 2- First day using prison internet. Spent plenty of time on RAWK. Back to cell at night. Had another wank.

Day 3-  Liverpool game today. Found a top quality stream off RAWK. Enjoyed the game, had a wank thinking of Suarez tonight.

Day 4 - Playstations, playstations !

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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #117 on: November 23, 2012, 10:00:40 pm »
Been a few times myself, nothing to be proud of, its a waste of life and very boring. You probally will get some shit mate, wont lie to you, everyone does. Just  dont show your scared or you'll get it all the time. Dont trust anyone, dont lend anything off anyone, keep your head down and dont mouth off and you'll be fine. You'll pick up how to act and who's who in the grand scheme of things. Mostly though its just boring, really boring. Do as many things as you can there, get a job, take advantage of what u can learn etc because it all counts to getting you out. Last time I was in Durham nick you had a playstation 2, can buy games etc for it, you could even have a bath, bolt on the door, bit privacy. You get a listener as well if you need somebody, its just someone to talk to, get things off your chest because its a traumatic thing the first time having your freedom took away! Its just boring mate. All the best, hope it doesnt come to that because no good comes from it!

Just remember isnt half as bad as it is made out to be, you only do two days in there anyway, first day in and day you come home as the saying goes!




Just about sums it up. Boring as hell. The longest i ever did was the last day. Fuck me does that drag.
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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #118 on: November 24, 2012, 03:35:20 am »
I would never, ever, have imagined me being drawn to a thread like this. Instead I find myself fixated by it. It's an almost perversely fascinating glimpse into a world that we probably all hope we'll never encounter.

As Pistolero mentions, it is absolutely compelling, both on a human level and an 'I always wanted to ask, but never met the right person' level.

If you're interested in it more, Jeffery Archer's written some books on the whole thing.

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Hij - one of the Off-Topic posts of the year for me mate (if not the whole board). Thanks for sharing - I'm sure not everyone would be as forthcoming as you were. Just think 5 years ago when we went to watch the Arsenal what the future would hold for you. Was quite surprised when you pulled out 17 grands worth of used 20's to pay me for your ticket, but didn't think anything of it at the time...

Interesting mate and thanks. Are you sure it was five years ago, I was definitely not doing anything illegal then! 2009 maybe though? If it was 2007 the money would have been legitimate  ;D

Mephedrone came to me more by chance. I have an associate who has tried most drugs, and he found it quite early on (before it blew up in the UK) and started moving loads of it. At this point I was working in a warehouse printing off mail and running the machine to put it into the envelopes to dispatch to customers for banks. They sacked my manager to save money, and gave me the entire job to myself which was quite stressful, but they kept me on my starting salary. Then they started going at me for the smallest mistakes as if I was an expert but I still hadn't fully learnt everything from my previous boss. Also, they had no heaters and I was on my own in the warehouse, while everyone else worked in the warm office. I grew disillusioned and my mates would turn up to pick me up each day with wads of notes, they'd made from selling Mephedrone. And with the disciplinary's starting for shit like coming a minute late into work, I guess the temptation to make more money than I was making at work became too much.  I quickly got hooked on the shit myself, doing all weekend benders, and when it went illegal I actually didn't have any, but I got a phone call and the chance to have more of the stuff for my personal consumption and make some more money was too much to my eternal regret.

That shit is horrible and massively addictive though. Honestly, I could go from Thursday to Tuesday awake at my mates (who was also on it) on that. So like I said, in some ways I'm glad I got nicked, to get out of the situation, as I don't think I had the mental fortitude at the time to get out of it myself.

Oh yeah: one of the best letters I ever got was from Rhino off here. "At least you haven't got to watch Roy Hodgson's diabolical display's"  - unfortunately I did get to watch some. ;D

@Yasar- sorry I didn't see your message. PM me mate anytime and I'll get back to you. How did the probation meeting go? It's probably a pre-sentence report if you pleaded guilty, they'll just pass some information to the judge.
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Re: Anyone here ever been to prison?
« Reply #119 on: November 27, 2012, 11:58:11 am »
Hij could produce a film
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