Author Topic: South American Football. Leagues, Copa Libertadores etc. (Read 135374 times)

Statto Red · « **Reply #240 on:** August 30, 2018, 02:20:23 am »

Quote from: Desert Red Fox on August 29, 2018, 01:33:14 am

that's because both teams essentially dropped the pretense that they were playing fair - earlier today CONMEBOL declared Independiente the winner of the first leg (making the "new" score 3-0) because of Santos fielding an ineligible player during that match*, so tensions were running "a bit high" before the match and it went downhill from there.

*: it's a controversial rule and it's become infamous lately - a number of teams have been recently penalized for "fielding ineligible players" ('cause they were registered for a different team earlier in the same competition, even if they never actually played... essentially, they're cup tied) and pressure is mounting on CONMEBOL for such a rule.

Reading the BBC article on it, turns out the ineligible player in question was banned after a sending off 3 years ago whilst playing for a different club, however Santos are claiming the ban wasn't on CONMEBOLs own website & thought it was ok to play him.

oojason · « **Reply #241 on:** August 30, 2018, 02:21:56 am »

River Plate vs Racing highlights - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPCelO4Ylws

Lucas Pratto 11' goal - https://streamable.com/0ksnw (Aspas corners)

Exequiel Palacios 28' goal - https://streamable.com/numhd

Rafael Borre 81' goal - https://streamable.com/yqc97

The fight/ruckus on 82-86 mins - https://streamable.com/2nmv3

oojason · « **Reply #242 on:** August 30, 2018, 02:26:40 am »

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Corinthians vs Colo Colo game... (Colo Colo are 1-0 up from the 1st leg)

Jadson goal (penalty) for Corinthians on 17 mins - https://streamable.com/lbq7f & handball - https://streamable.com/hmv6k

Lucas Barrios goal for Colo Colo on 32 mins - https://streamable.com/hlbzw

Roger goal for Corinthians on 64 mins - https://streamable.com/ciqkh

Colo Colo go through on the away goals rule. 4 minute highlights here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13LDdGDCNsk

live stream - http://0dt.net/video/1684466.html & acestream://3356c4916b37de52fff4b64deb337ac3ff0e3c28

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Copa_Libertadores

Flamengo won 1-0 away vs Cruzeiro, Leonardo Duarte the scorer https://streamable.com/u9jkr on 71' - , though Cruzeiro go through 2-1 on aggregate.

Highlights here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWPTlBFYztk

rodderzzz · « **Reply #243 on:** August 30, 2018, 02:58:56 am »

Went to Brazil for 2 weeks in July, grew up in Liverpool following the boys all over Europe but lived in Canada the last ten years. My misses is Brazilian so went for the first time, it was so intoxicating being in a place so in love with football! Went to Flamengo Sao Paulo at Maracana and watched Paysandu beat Guarani 1-0 in Serie B (My girl is from Belem).

Cant get off watching the Brazilian footy now, especially as its more convenient with my timezone

Desert Red Fox · « **Reply #244 on:** August 30, 2018, 03:38:50 am »

Quote from: Statto Red on August 30, 2018, 02:20:23 am

Reading the BBC article on it, turns out the ineligible player in question was banned after a sending off 3 years ago whilst playing for a different club, however Santos are claiming the ban wasn't on CONMEBOLs own website & thought it was ok to play him.

because CONMEBOL are a complete fucking mess - not even exaggerating

kavah · « **Reply #245 on:** August 30, 2018, 11:51:52 am »

thanks Jason, hard to watch these late night games through to the end, and I'm in the right time-zone!

Desert Fox -Colo Colo look decent, are you a supporter? Good to see a team from Chile having a good run in the cup, and Rodd, your girl must be made up with our 3 Brasileiros, like you I've followed us all over but there is something about the South American fan culture, the songs, the passion that is great, although I can't make head nor tale of it at times, I spend most of my Portuguese class talking about footy in English

oojason · « **Reply #246 on:** August 30, 2018, 12:30:54 pm »

CONMEBOL do seem to have a few issues - like the FA, they'd probably be better run by those at grassroots than those actually doing the current highly paid jobs.

The ref in the Corinthians games was atrocious, players running up to each other kicking (both sides) and raking down the achilles - play on everyone! Players down and bleeding from the head - play on! Running past someone 10 yards away from the ref who is aggressively running towards you - you get a red card! It does make for very good entertainment though

Very unpredictable football too - which is a welcome change

The fans look like they're all having a great time too.

2 more games left in the Last 16...

Libertad vs Boca Juniors - tonight, 11.30pm ko UK time. Boca are 2-0 up from the 1st leg.

Palmeiras vs Cerro Porteno - early hours of tomorrow morning - 1.45am UK time. Palmeiras are 2-0 up from the 1st leg.

The Quarter-Finals are shaping up nicely, some great games on the cards... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Copa_Libertadores#Quarterfinals

Desert Red Fox · « **Reply #247 on:** August 30, 2018, 08:48:12 pm »

Quote from: kavah on August 30, 2018, 11:51:52 am

thanks Jason, hard to watch these late night games through to the end, and I'm in the right time-zone!

Desert Fox -Colo Colo look decent, are you a supporter? Good to see a team from Chile having a good run in the cup

nope, I fucking hate them

they're essentially the Chilean version of the mancs, so you can imagine my "joy"

This is the team I support, but sadly we haven't been a top flight team for a couple of years, due to horrible board decisions throughout the last 10 or so years (which meant mediocre managerial appointments and even worse player recruitment). It's a fucking shame, but hey... when the love of your life is down, you can't walk away - you have to support though thick and thin

rodderzzz · « **Reply #248 on:** August 30, 2018, 09:22:37 pm »

Quote from: oojason on August 30, 2018, 12:30:54 pm

CONMEBOL do seem to have a few issues - like the FA, they'd probably be better run by those at grassroots than those actually doing the current highly paid jobs.

The ref in the Corinthians games was atrocious, players running up to each other kicking (both sides) and raking down the achilles - play on everyone! Players down and bleeding from the head - play on! Running past someone 10 yards away from the ref who is aggressively running towards you - you get a red card! It does make for very good entertainment though

Very unpredictable football too - which is a welcome change The fans look like they're all having a great time too.

2 more games left in the Last 16...

Libertad vs Boca Juniors - tonight, 11.30pm ko UK time. Boca are 2-0 up from the 1st leg.

Palmeiras vs Cerro Porteno - early hours of tomorrow morning - 1.45am UK time. Palmeiras are 2-0 up from the 1st leg.

The Quarter-Finals are shaping up nicely, some great games on the cards... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Copa_Libertadores#Quarterfinals

She’s not to enthralled when I remind her that she IS my 4th favourite Brazilian 😅😅

kavah · « **Reply #249 on:** August 30, 2018, 10:13:19 pm »

Quote from: rodderzzz on August 30, 2018, 09:22:37 pm

She’s not to enthralled when I remind her that she IS my 4th favourite Brazilian 😅😅

Ha ha

Quote from: Desert Red Fox on August 30, 2018, 08:48:12 pm

nope, I fucking hate them they're essentially the Chilean version of the mancs, so you can imagine my "joy" This is the team I support, but sadly we haven't been a top flight team for a couple of years, due to horrible board decisions throughout the last 10 or so years (which meant mediocre managerial appointments and even worse player recruitment). It's a fucking shame, but hey... when the love of your life is down, you can't walk away - you have to support though thick and thin

Right - hence your name

- Zorros del desierto nice one

We should have a South American Rawk meet up once in a while

Desert Red Fox · « **Reply #250 on:** August 30, 2018, 10:18:35 pm »

Quote from: kavah on August 30, 2018, 10:13:19 pm

Right - hence your name - Zorros del desierto nice one

We should have a South American Rawk meet up once in a while

yeah

oojason · « **Reply #251 on:** August 30, 2018, 11:34:04 pm »

Quote from: rodderzzz on August 30, 2018, 09:22:37 pm

She’s not to enthralled when I remind her that she IS my 4th favourite Brazilian 😅😅

Libertad vs Boca streams - http://www.sportsflow.live/2018/08/libertad-vs-boca-juniors.html : http://freezersports.com/pre/pre13.php : http://www.worldcupfootball.me/wcf/16/t

with some acestreams for both games here - https://acelisting.in/

Palmeiras vs Cerro Porteno streams (1.45am ko UK) - http://freezersports.com/pre/pre13.php & https://www.reddit.com/r/soccerstreams/comments/9borzg/0045_gmt_palmeiras_vs_cerro_porte%C3%B1o/

oojason · « **Reply #252 on:** August 30, 2018, 11:48:35 pm »

Nice finish for the Libertad goal on 12 mins, Cardozo the scorer - https://streamable.com/wh3wg

Boca equalise on 19 mins, Pavon the scorer - https://streamable.com/9lrb8

then Boca take the lead on 22 mins, Zarate the scorer - https://streamable.com/5qwnl

Cardozo again for Libertad from the spot on 38 mins, making it 2-2 on the night - https://streamable.com/ew8d9

Carlos Tevez for Boca on 75 mins - https://streamable.com/372wi

4-2 to Boca on 80 mins, Cardona the scorer (penalty) - https://streamable.com/54m8x

Still a decent game this

DelTrotter · « **Reply #253 on:** August 30, 2018, 11:51:22 pm »

Great away support for Boca, not the longest journey but still.

oojason · « **Reply #254 on:** August 31, 2018, 01:55:47 am »

Palmeiras down to 10 men just 5 minutes in, straight red card to Melo - https://streamable.com/2gctp & https://twitter.com/InterMilan_Arg/status/1035329917544742912

Arzamendia goal for Cerro Porteno on 57 mins - https://streamable.com/xucxb

Palmeiras down to 9 men - Deyverson red card on 90+4 mins (all kicks off, everyone surrounds ref, takes 4-5 mins to restart, 11 mins of added time played) - https://streamable.com/bavac

Highlights here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkqhaLuT6hk & https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovylFIewyrM

Desert Red Fox · « **Reply #255 on:** August 31, 2018, 04:34:38 am »

Deyverson's antics were absolutely ridiculous! What a clown.

Lush is the best medicine... · « **Reply #256 on:** September 14, 2018, 10:47:49 pm »

4 part Boca Juniors documentary on Netflix at the moment, like the juve one, v good.

All in Spanish but subtitled

dalarr · « **Reply #257 on:** September 15, 2018, 07:14:10 pm »

Vasco Da Gama vs Flamengo tonight. Never watched one of the big Rio derbies before. Gives me an opportunity to, once again, try to understand how the Brazilian league system works.

kavah · « **Reply #258 on:** October 2, 2018, 06:17:55 pm »

River Plate v Independiente looks decent tonight, 0-0 after the first leg.

elsewhere · « **Reply #259 on:** October 2, 2018, 06:30:48 pm »

It feels like half of the Libertadores matches end 0-0,0-1 and 1-0 and the other half is abandoned after pitch invasions

rodderzzz · « **Reply #260 on:** October 3, 2018, 03:18:58 am »

Move one step closer to the Boca - River final now hahaha

kavah · « **Reply #261 on:** October 3, 2018, 09:32:33 am »

^ boca away to Cruzeira tonight, 2-0 up.

my usenme changed? · « **Reply #262 on:** October 3, 2018, 12:30:08 pm »

For anyone interested (and mods please move if this is the wrong place) M & M Direct are selling River Plate jersies for a tenner at the moment:

https://www.mandmdirect.com/01/details/AD15794/adidas-Mens-Carp-River-Plate-Third-Shirt-Black-White-Red

https://www.mandmdirect.com/01/details/AD15798/adidas-Junior-Boys-CARP-River-Plate-Home-Shirt-White-Power-Red?lid=QB1

https://www.mandmdirect.com/01/details/AD15806/adidas-Junior-CARP-River-Plate-Away-Shirt-Power-Red-White?lid=QB1

Got the black one ordered!

oojason · « **Reply #263 on:** October 4, 2018, 02:09:04 pm »

^ damn small sizes

River Plate vs Independiente highlights - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8RVyrpxtvw

Gremio vs Atlético Tucuman highlights - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ1K8I_J128

Palmeiras vs Colo-Colo highlights - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9V3dVR4YFE

and tonight (or rather 1.45am tomorrow morning) sees Cruzeiro vs Boca Juniors (with Boca 2-0 up from the 1st leg)

Streams will be up here around 30 mins before the game kick offs - https://www.reddit.com/r/soccerstreams/new/

https://www.flashscores.co.uk/football/south-america/copa-libertadores/

Looking like Gremio vs River Plate and Boca vs Palmeiras for the semi-finals...

Edit: Cruzeiro vs Boca Juniors finished 1-1, so Boca went through 3-1 on aggregate. Highlights - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oei8WmiT-mU

2018 Copa Liberatdores Semi-Finals...

River Plate vs Gremio - 1st leg on 23rd Oct, 2nd leg on 30th Oct

Boca Juniors vs Palmeiras - 1st leg on 24th Oct, 2nd leg on 31st Oct

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Copa_Libertadores

DelTrotter · « **Reply #264 on:** October 4, 2018, 02:15:09 pm »

Boca River final would be mind blowing, especially in the last year before they change it to a crappy neutral venue final. Any Copa Lib tie I want to see is usually ruined by Brazilian clubs first though so still a long way to go before that game is reality! Gallardo has done an amazing job with River.

kavah · « **Reply #265 on:** October 4, 2018, 02:45:47 pm »

^ tasty final, I was just at La Bombonera for sightseeing and can only imagine what an occasion it would be on a big night like that. It's never happened before I think? Selfishly, I've got some connections at Boca so might be able to get a ticket so I'm hoping it happens. I'm in Porto Alegre and also wouldn't mind Gremio getting back to back finals.

Such a boss neighbourhood

DelTrotter · « **Reply #266 on:** October 4, 2018, 03:45:54 pm »

Would be quality that mate hope it happens for ya! Outside of seeing us doing things it's one of my dreams to go SA and do a derby football tour, Fla - Flu, Independiente - Racing, Boca - River, Penarol - Nacional, Inter - Gremio etc etc and eat steak in Buenos Aires

Lush is the best medicine... · « **Reply #267 on:** October 4, 2018, 10:39:18 pm »

Quote from: kavah on October 4, 2018, 02:45:47 pm

^ tasty final, I was just at La Bombonera for sightseeing and can only imagine what an occasion it would be on a big night like that. It's never happened before I think? Selfishly, I've got some connections at Boca so might be able to get a ticket so I'm hoping it happens. I'm in Porto Alegre and also wouldn't mind Gremio getting back to back finals.

Such a boss neighbourhood

from memory they played in a semi around 2003?

EDIT 2004, boca won at river on pens!

elsewhere · « **Reply #268 on:** October 5, 2018, 08:19:58 am »

this is heading to a Boca Juniors-River Plate final, isn't it?

rodderzzz · « **Reply #269 on:** October 5, 2018, 11:34:50 pm »

Dont know who follows Serie A Brasiliero but that title race is going to be epic

kavah · « **Reply #270 on:** October 5, 2018, 11:52:16 pm »

^ Yes Rod, a little bit, Inter are playing now, I saw them earlier in the season - before the WC against Corinthians and you could see they have a bit of quality but I think even their fans didn't expect this. My wife's company get some corporate tickets for them and the demand has gone through the roof in her office as you can imagine, they are playing well. Gremio and Palmeiras are still in the libertadores so that won't be easy. Massive game for them tomorrow, Sao Paulo v Palmeiras and then on the 14th Palmeiras Gremio.

Good stuff. That Everton looks good for Gremio this season too.

rodderzzz · « **Reply #271 on:** October 6, 2018, 12:58:45 am »

Quote from: kavah on October 5, 2018, 11:52:16 pm

^ Yes Rod, a little bit, Inter are playing now, I saw them earlier in the season - before the WC against Corinthians and you could see they have a bit of quality but I think even their fans didn't expect this. My wife's company get some corporate tickets for them and the demand has gone through the roof in her office as you can imagine, they are playing well. Gremio and Palmeiras are still in the libertadores so that won't be easy. Massive game for them tomorrow, Sao Paulo v Palmeiras and then on the 14th Palmeiras Gremio.

Good stuff. That Everton looks good for Gremio this season too.

Yeah its been great, Inter just lost last minute meaning if Flamengo can turn over Corinthians tonight and Palmeiras Sao Paulo draw at the weekend, I expect Gremio to beat Bahia you'll have two points separating the top 5.

Solomon Grundy · « **Reply #272 on:** October 6, 2018, 09:03:07 am »

Quote from: kavah on October 5, 2018, 11:52:16 pm

^ Yes Rod, a little bit, Inter are playing now, I saw them earlier in the season - before the WC against Corinthians and you could see they have a bit of quality but I think even their fans didn't expect this. My wife's company get some corporate tickets for them and the demand has gone through the roof in her office as you can imagine, they are playing well. Gremio and Palmeiras are still in the libertadores so that won't be easy. Massive game for them tomorrow, Sao Paulo v Palmeiras and then on the 14th Palmeiras Gremio.

Good stuff. That Everton looks good for Gremio this season too.

The only one that ever has.

rodderzzz · « **Reply #273 on:** October 7, 2018, 01:25:51 am »

Great away win for Palmeiras tonight puts them in the prime seat. Gremio behind too

kavah · « **Reply #274 on:** October 7, 2018, 03:55:32 pm »

^ aye massive win that against Sao Paulo, with 10 to go they have some daylight at the top.

Palmeiras 56
Internacional 53
Flamengo 52
São Paulo 52
Grêmio 51

Inter v SP and Palmeriras v Gremio next weekend and Flamengo v Fluminese at the Maracanã (I always like this stat - The highest attendance for a derby Match - 194,603 (177,656 paid), December 12, 1963 FLA-FLU Derby - Clássico das Multidões (Derby of the Masses) - a good weekend of footy since we don't have a game

oojason · « **Reply #275 on:** October 10, 2018, 03:17:45 pm »

1st leg of the Copa Do Brasil Final tonight (well... 1.45am Thursday morning - UK time)

Cruzeiro v Corinthians - and it's live in the UK on the FreeSport tv channel (https://www.freesports.tv/ & https://twitter.com/freesportsuk)

Streams will likely be at https://www.reddit.com/r/soccerstreams/ & http://goatdee.net/ and the other usual places

Edit: 1st leg highlights here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Qzkyh134eA

2nd leg of the Final is on Thursday 18th October, also a 1.45am KO (UK time)

https://www.flashscores.co.uk/football/brazil/copa-do-brasil/fixtures/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Copa_do_Brasil

Red-Dread · « **Reply #276 on:** October 10, 2018, 03:38:40 pm »

Quote from: kavah on October 5, 2018, 11:52:16 pm

Good stuff. That Everton looks good for Gremio this season too.

This fella is a must-sign for Klopp's Liverpool

rodderzzz · « **Reply #277 on:** October 13, 2018, 10:58:38 pm »

Quote from: kavah on October 7, 2018, 03:55:32 pm

^ aye massive win that against Sao Paulo, with 10 to go they have some daylight at the top.

Palmeiras 56
Internacional 53
Flamengo 52
São Paulo 52
Grêmio 51

Inter v SP and Palmeriras v Gremio next weekend and Flamengo v Fluminese at the Maracanã (I always like this stat - The highest attendance for a derby Match - 194,603 (177,656 paid), December 12, 1963 FLA-FLU Derby - Clássico das Multidões (Derby of the Masses) - a good weekend of footy since we don't have a game

Flamengo took care of Fluminense with ease. Need a Gremio and Sao Paulo win tomorrow now to crunch it to 3 points between the top 5

rodderzzz · « **Reply #278 on:** October 13, 2018, 11:03:32 pm »

Also, how does everyone feel about the Copa Libertadores going to a neutral venue final from next year? Personally I hate two legged finals and love a neutral venue. Thinking about even going to Santiago for it if i can get tickets.

oojason · « **Reply #279 on:** October 18, 2018, 02:51:12 am »

2nd leg of the Copa du Brasil Final on now (half-time). Game is live on FreeSports in the UK. Streams here - http://www.rojadirectaonlinetv.com/extremotvplay-15.php##wpro

Corinthians 0 - 1 Cruzeiro

Robinho on 28 mins - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inX1fNqKo6s