Topic: 'How Kenny Dalglish turned a six-game losing run into glory'

[Crimson_Tank]

This got me thinking, are we the British Barcelona? (Hear me out)

Both have played some of the best football in Europe this season.
Both sadly are unlikely to win the title this season.
Both have a manager who is a club legend for both playing and managerial abilities.
Both have won a cup already this season and have the semi's of another big cup competition coming up.
Both are one of the biggest clubs in the world.
Both have a tradition of playing attacking pass and move football.
Both have to battle against 'borderline corrupt' empires (Franco's Madrid and Ferguson's United).

More precisely Barcelona might just be the Spanish Liverpool, because Liverpool FC will always be Liverpool FC. Things don't look too bad for the club from where i'm sitting.

I hope to God that you have been drinking heavily and were under a generous amount of psychedelic drugs when you thought and posted this....

if not seek help.

[Passmaster Molby]

Maybe your right mate.

I just wonder how Kenny can have the right input when things are going wrong. Im confusing coach and manager I guess.

Who sets the general tempo for pressing when we are without the ball as an example.

Does Kenny let them get on with it in a general sense like that article says or is he into the details, mn for man or zonal, men on corners or not etc etc etc.

I had an image of Kenny setting the drills and coaching in a different sense to what is being suggested there.

I thought it was well known that Kenny doesn't get involved in sorting training out? In his interviews he jokes that Steve Clarke won't let him play in the five a sides etc.

[craig2812]

This got me thinking, are we the British Barcelona? (Hear me out)

Finally got up from ten minutes rolling on the floor laughing. Not really at the ideas undercorded throws out there, but at the obvious belief he has in what he is writing. 

[Redeo]

Sigh, so true. There are people who hold Carra and Stevie to be the epitome of the club but I can't help but feel this constant braying about too many foreigners is one factor in our decline for the past 2 seasons.

Not just that but also that Liverpool-born players have a greater sense of entitlement so that they ultimately don't face the same amount of competition as a foreigner/nobody would. In fairness, this doesn't apply to Stevie who's been one of our very best for a while now, but I wonder how would Carra fare this and last season if his name was Philipo or Omar and he was brought in from distant lands.

[Redeo]

This got me thinking, are we the British Barcelona? (Hear me out)

Both have played some of the best football in Europe this season.
Both sadly are unlikely to win the title this season.
Both have a manager who is a club legend for both playing and managerial abilities.
Both have won a cup already this season and have the semi's of another big cup competition coming up.
Both are one of the biggest clubs in the world.
Both have a tradition of playing attacking pass and move football.
Both have to battle against 'borderline corrupt' empires (Franco's Madrid and Ferguson's United).

More precisely Barcelona might just be the Spanish Liverpool, because Liverpool FC will always be Liverpool FC. Things don't look too bad for the club from where i'm sitting.

The most sensible post I read all year long.

[LFC when it suits]

Not just that but also that Liverpool-born players have a greater sense of entitlement so that they ultimately don't face the same amount of competition as a foreigner/nobody would. In fairness, this doesn't apply to Stevie who's been one of our very best for a while now, but I wonder how would Carra fare this and last season if his name was Philipo or Omar and he was brought in from distant lands.

Stevie has been consistently one of our worst performers in the last 3 years. How long can Gerrard live off his reputation from the performances he put on 3 years ago.

[Wingman]

I'm all for letting the king remain beyond the summer IF and only IF he wins the FA cup, otherwise I honestly think he has to go or go back to another role, simmilar to one he had when Benitez was around.

........

I'm 100% behind the king and the team, and i'm sure we will end this season with two trophies. However, I really hope the king and the staff, sit down in the summer, and assess what exactly went wrong and rectify it for next season.

RAWK is truly shit

[Cruiser]

This got me thinking, are we the British Barcelona? (Hear me out)

Both have played some of the best football in Europe this season.
Both sadly are unlikely to win the title this season.
Both have a manager who is a club legend for both playing and managerial abilities.
Both have won a cup already this season and have the semi's of another big cup competition coming up.
Both are one of the biggest clubs in the world.
Both have a tradition of playing attacking pass and move football.
Both have to battle against 'borderline corrupt' empires (Franco's Madrid and Ferguson's United).

More precisely Barcelona might just be the Spanish Liverpool, because Liverpool FC will always be Liverpool FC. Things don't look too bad for the club from where i'm sitting.

[Dinkler]

Like others who have posted on this, the impression that Kenny projects of being a "hands off" manager who conveys limited tactical instruction is one that worries me.

Fair enough Kenny's approach worked the first time round. At that stage, however, he inherited an experienced and extremely gifted squad. The same cannot be said of the current squad. Allied to that, football has moved on massively since his last managerial spell with us or indeed since his last managerial role.

I think it is apparent that we no longer have any clear idea of how we want to play. It may have been that Kenny had some vague notion about having a pacy wideman and a big man up top and hence the purchases of Downing and Carroll. Both have been spectacular failures and we have no plan B to our poorly thought out plan A.

[danielfonseca]

This got me thinking, are we the British Barcelona? (Hear me out)

Both have played some of the best football in Europe this season.
Both sadly are unlikely to win the title this season.
Both have a manager who is a club legend for both playing and managerial abilities.
Both have won a cup already this season and have the semi's of another big cup competition coming up.
Both are one of the biggest clubs in the world.
Both have a tradition of playing attacking pass and move football.
Both have to battle against 'borderline corrupt' empires (Franco's Madrid and Ferguson's United).

More precisely Barcelona might just be the Spanish Liverpool, because Liverpool FC will always be Liverpool FC. Things don't look too bad for the club from where i'm sitting.

I am really embarassed on behalf of all of RAWK after reading this...please keep your emotions checked because I for one am deeply disturbed by this post and the comparison ! how old are you if you dont mind me asking ?

[Vidocq]

This got me thinking, are we the British Barcelona? (Hear me out)

Both have played some of the best football in Europe this season.
Both sadly are unlikely to win the title this season.
Both have a manager who is a club legend for both playing and managerial abilities.
Both have won a cup already this season and have the semi's of another big cup competition coming up.
Both are one of the biggest clubs in the world.
Both have a tradition of playing attacking pass and move football.
Both have to battle against 'borderline corrupt' empires (Franco's Madrid and Ferguson's United).

More precisely Barcelona might just be the Spanish Liverpool, because Liverpool FC will always be Liverpool FC. Things don't look too bad for the club from where i'm sitting.

are you like ten years old?

[El_Pistolero]

This got me thinking, are we the British Barcelona? (Hear me out)

Both have played some of the best football in Europe this season.
Both sadly are unlikely to win the title this season.
Both have a manager who is a club legend for both playing and managerial abilities.
Both have won a cup already this season and have the semi's of another big cup competition coming up.
Both are one of the biggest clubs in the world.
Both have a tradition of playing attacking pass and move football.
Both have to battle against 'borderline corrupt' empires (Franco's Madrid and Ferguson's United).

More precisely Barcelona might just be the Spanish Liverpool, because Liverpool FC will always be Liverpool FC. Things don't look too bad for the club from where i'm sitting.

You need some help. Uruguayan36 will be over shortly.

Take heed his advice, you will get better.

[LiverLuke]

maybe he's WUMing?

[RedinExile]

Hmm worrying that to be honest, fits in with the whole pressing thread.

[jooneyisdagod]

I'm getting quite sick of these johnny foreigner moans. Look at how well our 'buy british' turned out for us. At least someone is happy.

"We've got a great togetherness about the squad, there's a lot of British players there now," Jamie Carragher said last October. "We went for a meal out before the derby and it was interesting that my wife could actually talk to some of the other wives without having to think of something in Spanish or French or something different. I think that will be a great thing for us this season."

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/premier-league/rafas-ghost-haunts-anfield-succession-of-trial-and-error-3067627.html

That is such a terrible quote.  Truly is.

[Kashinoda]

That Carragher quote is fucking shocking, when you remember he was close to Purslow it's no surprise Rafa was pushed out the club.

Xenophobic shite that I expect from the media but not one of our own, really disappointing.

[danielfonseca]

That is such a terrible quote.  Truly is.

Is this the great man of football knowledge henry winter keeps raving on about ?

[Kashinoda]

Is this the great man of football knowledge henry winter keeps raving on about ?

I'd actually hate it if Carragher was anywhere near a managerial position at Liverpool.

[jooneyisdagod]

Who's that girl ?  Looks incredibly cute.

[RedinExile]

I'm getting quite sick of these johnny foreigner moans. Look at how well our 'buy british' turned out for us. At least someone is happy.

"We've got a great togetherness about the squad, there's a lot of British players there now," Jamie Carragher said last October. "We went for a meal out before the derby and it was interesting that my wife could actually talk to some of the other wives without having to think of something in Spanish or French or something different. I think that will be a great thing for us this season."

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/premier-league/rafas-ghost-haunts-anfield-succession-of-trial-and-error-3067627.html

Hey Jamo, you know you thought binning Rafa off was a good idea, and you wanted Roy in, then you said yourself the club was on its knees when he left, do you accept any blame lad - course you fucking dont. We're more british eh horaah! And you got your fucking gift-wrapped whopping contract - disgrace.

[jooneyisdagod]

Is this the great man of football knowledge henry winter keeps raving on about ?

Don't read English newspapers since I don't live there but I'm assuming you are talking about Jamie Carragher ? 

[Red Genius]

It's not a very clever statement, but it looks to me at least as though he's just highlighting the atmosphere around the club at the time and that their was a real team bond.

[danielfonseca]

I'd actually hate it if Carragher was anywhere near a managerial position at Liverpool.

he has got sam fucking allardyce written all over him mate .

[jooneyisdagod]

It's not a very clever statement, but it looks to me at least as though he's just highlighting the atmosphere around the club at the time and that their was a real team bond.

While insinuating that the multicultural nature of the club's staff under Ged and Rafa were one of the reasons there was no real team bond ?

[Kashinoda]

It's not a very clever statement, but it looks to me at least as though he's just highlighting the atmosphere around the club at the time and that their was a real team bond.

"it was interesting that my wife could actually talk to some of the other wives without having to think of something in Spanish or French or something different. I think that will be a great thing for us this season."

[danielfonseca]

Don't read English newspapers since I don't live there but I'm assuming you are talking about Jamie Carragher ?

Yes jamie carragher ,there is a well known english journalist called Henry Winter who thinks the sun shines out of his arse on football matters and our own jamie carragher is the modern day franz beckenbauer .

[rushyman]

This got me thinking, are we the British Barcelona? (Hear me out)

Both have played some of the best football in Europe this season.
Both sadly are unlikely to win the title this season.
Both have a manager who is a club legend for both playing and managerial abilities.
Both have won a cup already this season and have the semi's of another big cup competition coming up.
Both are one of the biggest clubs in the world.
Both have a tradition of playing attacking pass and move football.
Both have to battle against 'borderline corrupt' empires (Franco's Madrid and Ferguson's United).

More precisely Barcelona might just be the Spanish Liverpool, because Liverpool FC will always be Liverpool FC. Things don't look too bad for the club from where i'm sitting.

Yeah thats not obvious at all

So boring redcafe. 'Hey look what I just saw some Liverpool fans say'  laughable cocks

Jesus. Go and see what your sisters are up to maybe

[Gojedo]

are you like ten years old?

He could very well be. Or close enough. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt.

[Red Genius]

While insinuating that the multicultural nature of the club's staff under Ged and Rafa were one of the reasons there was no real team bond ?

In Jamie's subjective opinion, possibly.

[bottleandahalf]

I'm getting quite sick of these johnny foreigner moans. Look at how well our 'buy british' turned out for us. At least someone is happy.

"We've got a great togetherness about the squad, there's a lot of British players there now," Jamie Carragher said last October. "We went for a meal out before the derby and it was interesting that my wife could actually talk to some of the other wives without having to think of something in Spanish or French or something different. I think that will be a great thing for us this season."

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/premier-league/rafas-ghost-haunts-anfield-succession-of-trial-and-error-3067627.html

Thanks for clarifying this for me. I had seen a few posters talking about this and was curious as to what they were talking about.
Deary dear!

[Barney_Rubble]

How a "How Kenny Dalglish turned a six-game losing run into glory" thread turned into a Jamie Carragher thread...