Topic: Bascombe Story - let's wait for confirmation before discussing it ok?

[The Lord Admiral]

Thought we might hear something in the next week or so as the owners are over.....

[royhendo]

Thought we might hear something in the next week or so as the owners are over.....

Has the council imposed any drop dead date or deadline int he coming weeks?

[CraigDS]

Thought we might hear something in the next week or so as the owners are over.....

Aye, because they aren't over for any other reason. You know. This weekend.

[The Lord Admiral]

Aye, because they aren't over for any other reason. You know. This weekend.

Are you familiar with the phrase 'two birds, one stone'?!

[CraigDS]

Are you familiar with the phrase 'two birds, one stone'?!

Last thing we need is the RSPCA on our backs to be honest.

[west_london_red]

Last thing we need is the RSPCA on our backs to be honest.

its the RSPB mate

[Toxfixiation]

its the RSPB mate

nope RBS.... oops!

[The Lord Admiral]

Last thing we need is the RSPCA on our backs to be honest.

No doubt Powar will be appearing all over the place, saying despite the fact we have a Liverbird, we constantly demonstrate vile levels of discrimination against eagles.

[CraigDS]

No doubt Powar will be appearing all over the place, saying despite the fact we have a Liverbird, we constantly demonstrate vile levels of discrimination against eagles.

Or blackbirds. Or if you're ITV or Alan Hansen - Colouredbirds.

[CraigDS]

its the RSPB mate

Sure they would chirp up too. 

[royhendo]

Has the council imposed any drop dead date or deadline int he coming weeks?

[Peter McGurk]

I can't see it being in council's interest to kill the new stadium by setting a deadline that the club wouldn't be able meet - and at least as far as I know, they haven't.

[royhendo]

Ta as always Peter. Was just chatting about it on Wednesday is all and wondered.

[The Lord Admiral]

Not a squeak is there?

Maybe qualifying for the Champions league is a factor. Thought there'd be a bit of something by now.

[CraigDS]

Not a squeak is there?

Maybe qualifying for the Champions league is a factor. Thought there'd be a bit of something by now.

Can't see why the results of one season would effect the decision on a stadium that'll last 50+

[The Lord Admiral]

Can't see why the results of one season would effect the decision on a stadium that'll last 50+

Quite simply cash and exposure. Corporates are inherently short termist. If Henry and co want $100m over 10 years, it's easier to get a corporate to pay $10m a season for a CL team than for a team that isn't at that level.

[CraigDS]

Quite simply cash and exposure. Corporates are inherently short termist. If Henry and co want $100m over 10 years, it's easier to get a corporate to pay $10m a season for a CL team than for a team that isn't at that level.

Didn't have much of an issue with Warrior (and to a lesser degree Standard Chartered!).

Plus the stadium wouldn't be called the sponsors name for Euro games.

[paulrazor]

Didn't have much of an issue with Warrior (and to a lesser degree Standard Chartered!).

Plus the stadium wouldn't be called the sponsors name for Euro games.

warrior i agree

but standard chartered was agreed just after we finished 2nd, we were in the champions league plus around 3rd/4th in the league early on. before things went tits up that season

[CraigDS]

warrior i agree

but standard chartered was agreed just after we finished 2nd, we were in the champions league plus around 3rd/4th in the league early on. before things went tits up that season

Hence why I said to a lesser degree, as although football wise all was (fairly) good, behind the scenes we were in a complete mess!

[paulrazor]

dont think it was an issue at all really even if we were a mess off the pitch

(soon to be on it)

[Coady]

I don't see FSG interested in building a new stadium, every time they mention the stadium its never in a positive manor.

[Easy]

I don't see FSG interested in building a new stadium, every time they mention the stadium its never in a positive manor.

Never in a positive manor? Nothing more positive than Anfield manor after a win.

[CraigDS]

dont think it was an issue at all really even if we were a mess off the pitch

(soon to be on it)

Supporters boycotting sponsors, warring owners, threat of going out of business, talk of a player fire sale, etc.

They all would of had major impacts on sponsors and us.

[paulrazor]

Supporters boycotting sponsors, warring owners, threat of going out of business, talk of a player fire sale, etc.

They all would of had major impacts on sponsors and us.

i dont think things were that bad at the time, the boycott was only minimal, the threat of going out of business was non existant when we signed with standard chartered in september 2009. this was the table when standard charted signed http://www.lfconline.com/snapshot_tables/2009_2010/12/sep/liverpool/index.shtml  and we were just about to beat west ham and hull to 3rd having just beaten burnley

the threat of going out of business, player sale and the merchandise boycott really only kicked in from around the time rafa was sacked up until the club was sold to fenway. By the time that started Standard Chartered were long since signed up. If you said september 2010 id fully agree with you but the deal was done in september 2009 when things were bad, we just didnt know how bad

[naka]

i take it no news about the stadium yet?
the guys have been in charge for over a year and whilst I appreciate they are considering options the very least we  should know is if they are leaving anfield or not.

[Garcepticon]

i take it no news about the stadium yet?
the guys have been in charge for over a year and whilst I appreciate they are considering options the very least we  should know is if they are leaving anfield or not.

Frustrating isn't it? The whole process doesn't have a single ounce of transparency.

[DonkeyWan]

It would be useful if someone could sticky a timeline of notable dates (i.e. deadlines, newsworthy dates etc.) so we could keep track of the story's developments.

[AKABillyGee]

It would be useful if someone could sticky a timeline of notable dates (i.e. deadlines, newsworthy dates etc.) so we could keep track of the story's developments.

I hate to be a cynic but what developments? The club have said next to nothing on this despite the apologists claims all we are living on is speculation and conjecture.

[paulrazor]

I hate to be a cynic but what developments? The club have said next to nothing on this despite the apologists claims all we are living on is speculation and conjecture.

i have some dates here that might be helpful

2002- plans to move stadium announced

2007- George Gillett promises a spade in the ground in 60 days

later in 2007- No spade in the ground but a new super duper stadium is drawn up for completion around the 2010 2011 mark

the end

[TepidT2O]

They were very clear that they wouldn't make commitments that were unachievable and that they wouldn't set unrealistic time frames....or indeed any time frames.

My guess is that it something will spring out of the blue when we least expect it.

[Easy]

They were very clear that they wouldn't make commitments that were unachievable and that they wouldn't set unrealistic time frames....or indeed any time frames.

My guess is that it something will spring out of the blue when we least expect it.

I still think that they could/should say something about their intentions though. Everyone's in the dark. No need to show plans just say we're most likely to go for redevelopment or new stadium and we should have something more concrete to say in the next 6 months. Surely they know this much by now.

[CraigDS]

I still think that they could/should say something about their intentions though. Everyone's in the dark. No need to show plans just say we're most likely to go for redevelopment or new stadium and we should have something more concrete to say in the next 6 months. Surely they know this much by now.

They have said exactly this though. They believe a redev offers the best option unless a massive naming rights deals can be found AND if lots of issues with regards to land acquisition can be dealt with. This is what they are in the process of doing.

What more do yo want to know?

[KennyDskeks]

Why is my inbox chock-a- block with re-development emails- Has someone come out and said something?

[fatlip13]

the longer it takes the more i think they really want to stay at anfield. the plans and permission is all in place for stanley park.

i guess that the problems around redeveloping anfield are difficult but options they want to exhaust before going another direction. if they could get another 15,000 in i think they would be happy

if we do leave i would like "the cowboys" plans used, it was the only decent thing they did

[paulrazor]

Why is my inbox chock-a- block with re-development emails- Has someone come out and said something?

the inbox joke only works in transfer windows

[AKABillyGee]

The idea that redevelopment is a better bet than new build really takes some leap of faith. A new 60k capacity stadium is expected to deliver £72m in matchday revenue at an average of £1200 per seat including premiums and new boxes. That is approx £30m more than is being achieved now and ups the average yield we currently enjoy of around £950 per seat..

A redevelopment of Anfield would add 10,000 new seats and they would be expected to add £30m to revenue to match a new stadium - or an average of £3000 per new seat including premiums and boxes. Even if an increase on the agreed LCC limit of 55k capacity could be reached and Anfield was upped to 60k the yield per new seat would need to £2000. Either target is in excess of twice or three times the seat yield being achieved now and both are in excess of the average yield of any premier league club.

[JayEvans]

Still no news?!!!

[PhilAnderer]

I'd guess that things have pretty much been put on the back burner for the time being, if not for the foreseeable future. The uncertain economic climate will make finding the right sponsors for such a mammoth project incredibly difficult or nigh on impossible. It wouldn't surprise me if we hear very little for a few years, though we will get indications whether their heart is fully behind the club this summer.

[paulrazor]

I'd guess that things have pretty much been put on the back burner for the time being, if not for the foreseeable future. The uncertain economic climate will make finding the right sponsors for such a mammoth project incredibly difficult or nigh on impossible. It wouldn't surprise me if we hear very little for a few years, though we will get indications whether their heart is fully behind the club this summer.

well city got a massive deal for their ground and we got huge deals with the likes of warrior in the not so recent past

so theres still companies out there interested id well believe

[The Lord Admiral]

Tage on Twitter, who is a reasonably safe pair of hands normally on stuff (not a look at me merchant by any stretch), retweeted something the night of the derby from lad saying the LFC are staying at Anfield.  Haven't seen any more on it.