Author Topic: Why context, not patience, is needed  (Read 4210 times)

Offline guest

  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 14,708
Why context, not patience, is needed
« on: August 18, 2011, 11:00:57 am »
PATIENCE. That was the key word written, over and over, by journalists and supporters in assessment of Liverpool’s opening weekend.

Patience. Furiously shorthanded in every notebook and tapped on every laptop, urging the supporters to give Kenny Dalglish and his squad time after a 1-1 draw with Sunderland.

I’ve used the word patience a number of times in this column over the past year, but not this week. Patience, in this instance, is wrong; patience indicates there’s something systematically at fault with the manager or the squad that needs time to be rectified.

Patience was needed once Dalglish took charge as he strived to strengthen the defence, sharpen the attack and give confidence to those bereft of it as a consequence of the previous six months.

It was also needed this summer, as the club gathered players right for the club – indeed, it’s still needed now, as the manager shapes the squad into his own.

You can understand why the word has been used so frequently, though.

After an hour against Sunderland, Anfield became restless. Songs had metamorphosed into sighs. Every misplaced pass was bemoaned; every scuffed shot and missed opportunity met with a collective head in hands. It sounded like impatience.

But this wasn’t impatience. There was nothing to be impatient about. Supporters witnessed what the side was capable of within the opening 15 minutes.

A penalty from Luis Suarez – albeit missed – created from his endeavour; a goal created by Charlie Adam’s left foot. Two things Anfield expected to see this season.

There were other things, too; the crowd had come to expect Pepe Reina commanding, Agger imperviously defending and Lucas tempo-setting. They had been told of what the new signings would bring; Enrique’s intelligence, Henderson’s energy and Downing’s penetration.

Half an hour of the new season had yet to pass and Liverpool supporters saw all of those things. Enrique’s balls to Suarez, Henderson’s relentless partnership with Lucas on the right, and then, what could have been the exclamation point – Downing’s individual attempt at breaking the crossbar in two.

And of course, there was a fine Andy Carroll goal, struck off for having the temerity to jump higher than the defender.

An excellent opening 45 minutes was immediately eradicated when Dowd began the second half. Larsson’s goal acted as a switch; agitation and restlessness followed, both on and off the pitch.

Anfield knew what this newly-constructed side was capable of already. This wasn’t impatience, this was anxiety and frustration - anxiety at not getting the result the first half performance deserved; frustration that the anxiety was well-founded.

Despite what some will say, there were few poor individual performances against Sunderland; the team simply couldn’t regain their first-half form – form the supporters already know they’re capable of.

In the first half, the team appeared on a telekinetic conveyor belt at times, sliding into position perfectly as they waited to receive the ball. The defence looked composed, the midfield fluid and Carroll and Suarez asked the Sunderland defence a lot of questions, most primarily the conundrum of which one they wanted to mark. It was never really answered.

Dalglish’s new men adapted admirably while last year’s stalwarts continued to impress. It changed in the second half, but it was enough to show that, while things will improve, there’s a solid foundation to begin with.

Dowd’s full-time whistle acted as a sharp, piercing needle, popping the pre-season optimism. As the swollen Kop deflated into the streets outside, it was disappointment, not anger, which resided amongst the chattered drone of Walton Breck Road.

It’s not patience Liverpool supporters have to afford the club because already, after one game, they’re aware of the squad’s capabilities. What they’re looking for is context.

The draw against Sunderland is an occurrence throughout every season for every top team. Arsenal, Chelsea, Manchester City and Tottenham all dropped points at home in games they should have won. Even Manchester United, with their incredible home record, stumbled to a 2-2 draw against West Brom – a record slightly tarnished by their mediocre away form, worthy champions though they were.

But at the start of a season, it feels different for supporters.

It’s a new start, an unblemished league table, a chance to fantasise with friends about what the next nine months will bring. To exhibit the tempo, understanding and merger of genuine threats all over the pitch in the first half, and fail to replicate that in the next 45 minutes, was disappointing; a disappointment heightened by it coming on the opening weekend.

Sunderland was merely the first game of a long season, and the first half had every supporter abuzz with optimism.

Pepe Reina, Jamie Carragher and Daniel Agger won’t forget how to form a strong defence. Lucas won’t forget how to patrol a midfield. Charlie Adam won’t forget how to deliver a set-piece. Stewart Downing won’t forget how to find Andy Carroll, and Luis Suarez won’t stop being Luis Suarez.

What will be forgotten soon enough is the disjointed second-half performance aided by a very well-organised Steve Bruce side, a poor refereeing performance, injuries to players and the side’s main attacking outlet feeling the strain of Uruguay’s successful Copa America campaign.

When Liverpool line up at the Emirates this weekend, that context will have clarity. Liverpool mightn’t necessarily take the three points, but the support won’t need patience, just the knowledge that the players are capable of playing out Dalglish’s vision of his squad. Over the course of a 38 game league season, that will tell – especially when the first-half performance is maintained throughout the whole game.

Soon, Johnson, Gerrard will return to full fitness, and Suarez will be capable of playing the full 90 minutes. Three players who are a big part of what Dalglish is trying to achieve. Johnson marauding down the right, Gerrard utilising space in the midfield and Suarez finishing everything those two create.

The supporters mightn't need patience, but they're forgiven not wanting to wait much longer to see that in full flow.

http://thekop.liverpoolfc.tv/_Why-context-not-patience-is-needed/blog/5045484/173471.html

Offline itsgunnabebarnes!

  • Neghead. hard and gagging. Will never be Barnes
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 11,684
Re: Why context, not patience, is needed
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2011, 11:03:28 am »
a timely article.
'Tramps like us, baby we were born to run!'

Offline woof

  • Barking up the wrong tree.
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 6,709
Re: Why context, not patience, is needed
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2011, 11:13:23 am »
Fantastic piece, L6! It shows we are citizens of the New Age after all - from dumb arse to expert in fly fishing in 15 minutes. "Just Google or Wikipedia it".

Emotion got the better of most supporters. We've been waiting for the return of the championship for only... 20 years?

Offline Ben_

  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 4,698
Re: Why context, not patience, is needed
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2011, 11:13:39 am »
Good stuff as ever L6.

I'd worry for the Premier League when that first half form from the other day can be replicated consistently.

A machine.
The match kicks off in 30 minutes ya silly twat


"This European Cup final is won, AC Milan 3, Liverpool 0."

"This scoreline is absolutely staggering, AC Milan 3, Liverpool 3!" - Five Live

Offline ricky69

  • Main Stander
  • ***
  • Posts: 73
Re: Why context, not patience, is needed
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2011, 11:19:20 am »
like it
+5 ticket exchange

Offline wooly back red

  • Main Stander
  • ***
  • Posts: 101
Re: Why context, not patience, is needed
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2011, 11:32:23 am »
The team is in transition and against Sunderland we had players making their debut and playing together for the first time against a good Sunderland team, so a draw however dissapointing was not too bad. I think Saturdays game against the Arsenal will tell us more about the team. Arsenal will have a weaken side out and if we go for it as I am sure Kenny will, then we can hope for 3 points. 4 points from the first two games would be a good start considering the team are still getting to know each other. If we get beat Saturday then it's not too bad either but it could be a long season.

Offline No666

  • Married to Macca.
  • RAWK Scribe
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 16,831
Re: Why context, not patience, is needed
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2011, 11:59:00 am »
Essentially Kenny said the same thing today; in the aftermath he was disappointed, in retrospect he's seen the positives of the performance. He also implied it wasn't fitness but expectation and nerves that got in the way of the second half.

Offline itsgunnabebarnes!

  • Neghead. hard and gagging. Will never be Barnes
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 11,684
Re: Why context, not patience, is needed
« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2011, 12:05:23 pm »
Essentially Kenny said the same thing today; in the aftermath he was disappointed, in retrospect he's seen the positives of the performance. He also implied it wasn't fitness but expectation and nerves that got in the way of the second half.

where has he said that pal? i thought it was quite clear we were fucked?
'Tramps like us, baby we were born to run!'

Offline -Daws-

  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 3,912
  • No longer a teenage Rafa, still no goatee.
Re: Why context, not patience, is needed
« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2011, 12:17:21 pm »
Cracking post L6, as always.

To be honest, I am not at all concerned about the first game against Sunderland. The first half performance was very good, and the reasons you listed above were all contributing factors to our slip in the second half.

I mean, had United and Chelsea gone out and battered Stoke and WB respectively, then maybe there would be some cause for concern, but nobody has set the world alight (bar Bolton) all of us have new players fitting into our squads and trying to settle them in. It's difficult for everyone.

I am though, excited - with the other top 6 clubs all having European trips to consider, ties playing on their mind at weekends, the extra games, the need to spread squads thinner than what would be ideal - it all plays into our hands this season. We know ourselves what a distraction Europe can be, suffereing from the cliched 'European hangover' and having to play players in games where usually they wouldn't, it's tough. We haven't got this to worry about. We also have good young players to try and make an impression in Carling Cup matches, so we can concerntrate on winning as many Premierleague games as possibly without having to consider a midweek game.

Okay it may take a few more weeks before we really get into our stride and 'click', so to speak, but come March when United, Chelsea and City have all had masses of games to play all over the country and the continent - Luis Suarez, Stevie G, Dagger, Carroll and the rest should be fit a raring to go, with far more in the tank than Rooney, Torres, or David Silva etc etc; we can really push.

Personally, I will keep a positive mindset as long as we are still in the running for the league title. At this point we are, so I'm fairly contented.
It's hard enough remembering my opinions without remembering my reasons for them.

Offline mactifosi

  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,260
Re: Why context, not patience, is needed
« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2011, 12:19:15 pm »
While Arsenal away is a tough game, it is a great game to focus the players.
I thought the players on Saturday felt the weight of expectation, that will be less so against the arse.

I was also not overly impressed by our first half performance but I saw enough positives to be satisfied that the end product this season could be very good indeed.

Offline RedMarko

  • Master arsonist and goat hater
  • RAWK Supporter
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,852
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
    • TW42 now!!
Re: Why context, not patience, is needed
« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2011, 12:28:28 pm »
I really like this piece. It links in with something I was saying earlier about expectations cannot be too high - they should always be as high as possible, and yet how we deal with knocks to that expectation which we need to understand.

I have often used the 'patience' line with mates who are down on a performance etc. This article is great in that it explains why it is not 'patience' - there is actually no time for patience once the season starts- but context we should focus on.

Thanks once again L6 - another enjoyable read.

Offline rossipersempre

  • On the lookuyt for a new winger since 2007 BC. Prodigal, Son.
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 20,259
Re: Why context, not patience, is needed
« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2011, 01:02:22 pm »
One of your better Tomkins-like pieces.

As expected though, glossed over the team selection and subs made but fair enough given it's for .tv.
My scouse, the often busted but seldom battered Mr Flabby Whore Alien. Who will not send in cottoned wool, bubbled rap, shiny sliver spaced blanket and sum beefy Bovril to keep it warm and safe and snag as bag in a rag? Oh Whore yours is a sweeter leftish peg

Offline TrueNorthRED

  • Kopite
  • *****
  • Posts: 541
Re: Why context, not patience, is needed
« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2011, 01:05:02 pm »
PATIENCE. That was the key word written, over and over, by journalists and supporters in assessment of Liverpool’s opening weekend.

Patience. Furiously shorthanded in every notebook and tapped on every laptop, urging the supporters to give Kenny Dalglish and his squad time after a 1-1 draw with Sunderland.

I’ve used the word patience a number of times in this column over the past year, but not this week. Patience, in this instance, is wrong; patience indicates there’s something systematically at fault with the manager or the squad that needs time to be rectified.

Patience was needed once Dalglish took charge as he strived to strengthen the defence, sharpen the attack and give confidence to those bereft of it as a consequence of the previous six months.

It was also needed this summer, as the club gathered players right for the club – indeed, it’s still needed now, as the manager shapes the squad into his own.

You can understand why the word has been used so frequently, though.

After an hour against Sunderland, Anfield became restless. Songs had metamorphosed into sighs. Every misplaced pass was bemoaned; every scuffed shot and missed opportunity met with a collective head in hands. It sounded like impatience.

But this wasn’t impatience. There was nothing to be impatient about. Supporters witnessed what the side was capable of within the opening 15 minutes.

A penalty from Luis Suarez – albeit missed – created from his endeavour; a goal created by Charlie Adam’s left foot. Two things Anfield expected to see this season.

There were other things, too; the crowd had come to expect Pepe Reina commanding, Agger imperviously defending and Lucas tempo-setting. They had been told of what the new signings would bring; Enrique’s intelligence, Henderson’s energy and Downing’s penetration.

Half an hour of the new season had yet to pass and Liverpool supporters saw all of those things. Enrique’s balls to Suarez, Henderson’s relentless partnership with Lucas on the right, and then, what could have been the exclamation point – Downing’s individual attempt at breaking the crossbar in two.

And of course, there was a fine Andy Carroll goal, struck off for having the temerity to jump higher than the defender.

An excellent opening 45 minutes was immediately eradicated when Dowd began the second half. Larsson’s goal acted as a switch; agitation and restlessness followed, both on and off the pitch.

Anfield knew what this newly-constructed side was capable of already. This wasn’t impatience, this was anxiety and frustration - anxiety at not getting the result the first half performance deserved; frustration that the anxiety was well-founded.

Despite what some will say, there were few poor individual performances against Sunderland; the team simply couldn’t regain their first-half form – form the supporters already know they’re capable of.

In the first half, the team appeared on a telekinetic conveyor belt at times, sliding into position perfectly as they waited to receive the ball. The defence looked composed, the midfield fluid and Carroll and Suarez asked the Sunderland defence a lot of questions, most primarily the conundrum of which one they wanted to mark. It was never really answered.

Dalglish’s new men adapted admirably while last year’s stalwarts continued to impress. It changed in the second half, but it was enough to show that, while things will improve, there’s a solid foundation to begin with.

Dowd’s full-time whistle acted as a sharp, piercing needle, popping the pre-season optimism. As the swollen Kop deflated into the streets outside, it was disappointment, not anger, which resided amongst the chattered drone of Walton Breck Road.

It’s not patience Liverpool supporters have to afford the club because already, after one game, they’re aware of the squad’s capabilities. What they’re looking for is context.

The draw against Sunderland is an occurrence throughout every season for every top team. Arsenal, Chelsea, Manchester City and Tottenham all dropped points at home in games they should have won. Even Manchester United, with their incredible home record, stumbled to a 2-2 draw against West Brom – a record slightly tarnished by their mediocre away form, worthy champions though they were.

But at the start of a season, it feels different for supporters.

It’s a new start, an unblemished league table, a chance to fantasise with friends about what the next nine months will bring. To exhibit the tempo, understanding and merger of genuine threats all over the pitch in the first half, and fail to replicate that in the next 45 minutes, was disappointing; a disappointment heightened by it coming on the opening weekend.

Sunderland was merely the first game of a long season, and the first half had every supporter abuzz with optimism.

Pepe Reina, Jamie Carragher and Daniel Agger won’t forget how to form a strong defence. Lucas won’t forget how to patrol a midfield. Charlie Adam won’t forget how to deliver a set-piece. Stewart Downing won’t forget how to find Andy Carroll, and Luis Suarez won’t stop being Luis Suarez.

What will be forgotten soon enough is the disjointed second-half performance aided by a very well-organised Steve Bruce side, a poor refereeing performance, injuries to players and the side’s main attacking outlet feeling the strain of Uruguay’s successful Copa America campaign.

When Liverpool line up at the Emirates this weekend, that context will have clarity. Liverpool mightn’t necessarily take the three points, but the support won’t need patience, just the knowledge that the players are capable of playing out Dalglish’s vision of his squad. Over the course of a 38 game league season, that will tell – especially when the first-half performance is maintained throughout the whole game.

Soon, Johnson, Gerrard will return to full fitness, and Suarez will be capable of playing the full 90 minutes. Three players who are a big part of what Dalglish is trying to achieve. Johnson marauding down the right, Gerrard utilising space in the midfield and Suarez finishing everything those two create.

The supporters mightn't need patience, but they're forgiven not wanting to wait much longer to see that in full flow.

http://thekop.liverpoolfc.tv/_Why-context-not-patience-is-needed/blog/5045484/173471.html

 :o

Seriously though. AGREE 100%
"He plays as any supporter would if they were born with such demonic talent."

Offline kopindian

  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,951
    • Films I Watch
Re: Why context, not patience, is needed
« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2011, 01:48:14 pm »
I think Saturdays game against the Arsenal will tell us more about the team.
Kenny's record against good teams were fine last year. 10 points in 4 games against mancs, chelsea and arsenal. Its the games that we are expected to win that we usually struggles in. We haven't reacted well to goals in these sort of matches. Remember people saying that the win against  fulham away in rafa's first season gave an indication to man's capability and mental strength he was giving to the team. We need that kind of performance soon if we find ourselves chasing a game.
« Last Edit: August 18, 2011, 01:52:37 pm by kopindian »

Offline No666

  • Married to Macca.
  • RAWK Scribe
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 16,831
Re: Why context, not patience, is needed
« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2011, 02:06:25 pm »
where has he said that pal? i thought it was quite clear we were fucked?

From today's press conference. Surprised me, too.


Dalglish admits he was disappointed not to begin the campaign by collecting three points, but on reflection believes there were several positives to be taken from his side's performance - not least the fact no fewer than four players made their league debuts for the Reds, while Lucas Leiva and Luis Suarez both started having only returned to Melwood a mere matter of days earlier following the Copa America.

"We were disappointed with the performance in the second half - we can play better than that - but with a wee bit of luck, on another day we might have been two or three up," said the gaffer.

"We had a lot of positives to take out of it, probably a lot more positives when you look back now than when we did at the time.

"It was a difficult game for the three lads who have just been signed, and Jose (Enrique) came in the day before. Then we had Luis (Suarez) who had only had a week's training, and Lucas had only had 10 days.

"All in all, when you consider that's about six players, I don't think we did too badly because it's a big ask for people to make their debut at Anfield, especially when you've only signed 24 hours before in Jose's case.

"For Jordan (Henderson) he was playing against the only professional team he'd ever played for. Charlie (Adam) and Stewart (Downing) would have had different feelings, but it's still an emotive time and big occasion for them too. They're relatively young players, so when you look back and reflect I think we did better than what I thought we did in the immediate aftermath of the game."

After a lively first-half performance against the Black Cats, Liverpool were unable to maintain their grip on the contest after the break and journalists were eager to know whether Dalglish felt his team were suffering from tiredness in the second period.

He responded: "Tiredness is not an issue. The (new) boys played with their emotions in the way they were and the magnitude of the task in front of them, so for different reasons it was understandable that maybe the second half wasn't as good as the first.

"We have no problem whatsoever with their fitness - try and run against them to see how you fare up!"

Offline Red Genius

  • Part of the Neville clan. Voted "Most misnamed RAWKite" 2009-10. Reformed Coprophagiac
  • RAWK Supporter
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 8,506
Re: Why context, not patience, is needed
« Reply #15 on: August 18, 2011, 02:37:14 pm »
Patience is most definitely still required, as we don't win anything in August.

But we have to hold realistic expectations, whatever the dream may be, the requirement is 4th place bare minimum, no excuses, taking one game at a time - starting with Arsenal away.

Make no bones about it though, with this squad and Kenny the larger context is always to bring that elusive league title home.

"I have been privileged and lucky to wear the legendary red shirt. No one can take it away from me. YNWA, I don't have to walk alone because Liverpool FC will always be in my heart."

The Legend - Sami Hyypia

Offline helmboy_nige

  • A diplomat... except in the face of total morons
  • RAWK Supporter
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 7,616
Re: Why context, not patience, is needed
« Reply #16 on: August 18, 2011, 02:57:54 pm »
Good article though patience is still needed from all sides.  Mainly because it will take time to get the team playing like this over a whole game.

Offline Wingman

  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,982
Re: Why context, not patience, is needed
« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2011, 03:06:06 pm »
One of your better Tomkins-like pieces.

As expected though, glossed over the team selection and subs made but fair enough given it's for .tv.


There are plenty of other threads for discussing whether Aquilani should have been playing/brought on.

Offline Beninger

  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 11,224
Re: Why context, not patience, is needed
« Reply #18 on: August 18, 2011, 03:10:02 pm »
Exactly how I saw it.  A storming first half and then slowly being deflated, individually for many reasons, as the second half went on. 
* * * * * *

Offline rossipersempre

  • On the lookuyt for a new winger since 2007 BC. Prodigal, Son.
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 20,259
Re: Why context, not patience, is needed
« Reply #19 on: August 18, 2011, 04:52:39 pm »

There are plenty of other threads for discussing whether Aquilani should have been playing/brought on.
Wasn't even referring to him but hey feel free to have a pop. Again.
My scouse, the often busted but seldom battered Mr Flabby Whore Alien. Who will not send in cottoned wool, bubbled rap, shiny sliver spaced blanket and sum beefy Bovril to keep it warm and safe and snag as bag in a rag? Oh Whore yours is a sweeter leftish peg

royhendo

  • Guest
Re: Why context, not patience, is needed
« Reply #20 on: August 18, 2011, 05:04:14 pm »
One of your better Tomkins-like pieces.

As expected though, glossed over the team selection and subs made but fair enough given it's for .tv.

I rather liked it. Fair play to you for reserving the right to be an impatient misanthrope though mate. ;D

Offline fowlermagic

  • Ilittarate
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 13,569
Re: Why context, not patience, is needed
« Reply #21 on: August 18, 2011, 06:01:44 pm »
With every passing year this sort of hope for patience falls on more and more deaf ears as the ease everything comes to us these days, from pizza delivery to never getting your hands dirty from an oil change has created a general feeling of “I want and expect it now”. That first half was probably one of the better  45 minutes in a season opener for quite a while. We could and should have been 2-0 up after 15 minutes, bit like Bolt taking a summer off and coming out of the starting blocks on world record pace before his legs said hey ho son you need more training yet to look this good…and the second half showed that. It takes time but like a tit, us fans keep wanting to look into the oven to see what Kenny is cooking letting out the necessary heat that is required to make the meal that we so badly want. Lets hope the most knowledgeable fans in the world sitting in the stands can hold their tongue, their moans & groans and allow the Adam, Carroll and Downings to be mixed into the ingredients. A title charge was last seen here when most of us was watching Blue Peter in the early 90s, some fans who have never seen one in their lifetime need to listen & learn as the best teams / manager swho have come by over the past 30 – 40 years have taken several years to build the winning team. If you cant wait then head down to Chelsea or jump on the City Arab carpet where dynasties are built on camel dung foundations.
I have a simple philosophy: Fill what's empty. Empty what's full. Scratch where it itches. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi5-V75v-6I

Offline Jellies

  • RAWK Supporter
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 3,683
Re: Why context, not patience, is needed
« Reply #22 on: August 18, 2011, 06:14:39 pm »
Article titles can actually not begin with 'Why...'

Offline -Daws-

  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 3,912
  • No longer a teenage Rafa, still no goatee.
Re: Why context, not patience, is needed
« Reply #23 on: August 18, 2011, 06:30:09 pm »
Article titles can actually not begin with 'Why...'

Opinions can be thought out and over one line long....
It's hard enough remembering my opinions without remembering my reasons for them.

Offline guest

  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 14,708
Re: Why context, not patience, is needed
« Reply #24 on: August 18, 2011, 07:35:32 pm »
Article titles can actually not begin with 'Why...'

House style.

Aguero looked great for us this weekend, didn't he?

Offline RedMarko

  • Master arsonist and goat hater
  • RAWK Supporter
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,852
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
    • TW42 now!!
Re: Why context, not patience, is needed
« Reply #25 on: August 18, 2011, 07:38:54 pm »
Article titles can actually not begin with 'Why...'

'What context, not patience, is needed' would not have worked.


:P

Offline Jellies

  • RAWK Supporter
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 3,683
Re: Why context, not patience, is needed
« Reply #26 on: August 18, 2011, 08:18:10 pm »
Aguero looked great for us this weekend, didn't he?
Longest fishing trip of my life!

Offline montysmum

  • Was brought up in an entirely queg-free area.
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 4,694
Re: Why context, not patience, is needed
« Reply #27 on: August 18, 2011, 08:25:03 pm »
Excellent article and hopefull;y one that will be well read.

Some of the comments on the LFCtv phone in post Sunderland were bordering on the insane - you'd have thought we had lost 5-0.

Keep the Faith (and the context)
"If the supporters love me, then it's only half as much as I love them." - Kenny Dalglish. Liverpool Manager

Offline ALANM

  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,968
Re: Why context, not patience, is needed
« Reply #28 on: August 18, 2011, 11:16:35 pm »
One of your better Tomkins-like pieces.

As expected though, glossed over the team selection and subs made but fair enough given it's for .tv.

Were you criticising the team selection at half time when we'd played well in the 1st half?

Offline Pants

  • Boys Pen
  • *
  • Posts: 9
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: Why context, not patience, is needed
« Reply #29 on: August 19, 2011, 02:49:26 am »
good read.
always enjoy L6's articles.