Author Topic: Liverpool 1 - 1 Sunderland, (Suarez, Larsson) - Post Match (Read 149084 times)

11 friends · « **Reply #480 on:** August 13, 2011, 05:04:02 pm »

The second half was dominated by percentage football,with balls being played into channels and the obligatory long ball to Carroll.The pass and move disappeared and the ball too feet was negligable as well.Worrying, was also the fact that we don`t have any decent ball winners in our new look midfield.
A lot of hard work ahead, and I`d like to see Kelly at RB if Johnson is out for longer.

Bob Loblaw · « **Reply #481 on:** August 13, 2011, 05:04:06 pm »

*sigh*

Same old it seems. Heads drop and we go to shit as soon as it starts going against us.

Henderson was especially poor, the lad has zero defensive awareness, just wanders about the place watching the ball the whole time.

astowell1 · « **Reply #482 on:** August 13, 2011, 05:04:09 pm »

Really disappointed.

Would have been nice if that team who played in the 1st half turned up for the second...

Samee · « **Reply #483 on:** August 13, 2011, 05:04:09 pm »

Quote from: Red4Lyfe on August 13, 2011, 05:00:15 pm

FFS!

Henderson looks pathetic. What a terrible waste of money.

Get a grip.

Unless you're being sarcy.

Ambrosia · « **Reply #484 on:** August 13, 2011, 05:04:10 pm »

This match certainly lived up to my fears.

Henderson, Downing, Adam, looking very average. Carragher looking like the relic he is, Kenny's tactics and choice of players, all poor. Hoof after hoof in the second half, no composure or brains. Also much to reliant on Suarez.

And Dowd is a fat fuck who lost us the game, how ever poor we were. Hope Kenny lays into him.

Dudek · « **Reply #485 on:** August 13, 2011, 05:04:11 pm »

On the other hand, I thought Enrique was boss in defence, but he didn't get too involved in offence too much..

Johnnyboy1973 · « **Reply #486 on:** August 13, 2011, 05:04:18 pm »

Pretty good first half.

We were abysmal in the second half

Complete lack of creativity in the second half and a complete lack of pressing. To blame it all on Flannigan is unfair. Downing and Adam offered nothing in a second half where Suarez was clearly tiring and Carroll was contending a growing number of punts where he was mildly successful much like his all round game today. Henderson offered little all game.

Make no mistake, a poor start to the season with a trip to Highbury up next.

LiverBirdKop · « **Reply #487 on:** August 13, 2011, 05:04:20 pm »

I won't name them but a couple of our players need to fucking do something when we don't have the ball instead of just walking about.

Jellies · « **Reply #488 on:** August 13, 2011, 05:04:24 pm »

Quote from: LiverBirdKop on August 13, 2011, 05:02:24 pm

One of the worst second halves I remember us having in a long time.

In a long time? Really?

Red_Isle_Chap · « **Reply #489 on:** August 13, 2011, 05:04:24 pm »

Quote from: USC19Babel on August 13, 2011, 05:02:50 pm

It would be one thing if Flanagan had to start, as was the case at times last season, but the fact that he played so poorly while Kelly was on the bench makes little sense.

So why aren't you blaming Kenny then eh? Stop hiding behind having a go at a very young lad who had a tough game and say what you mean.

Blarf · « **Reply #490 on:** August 13, 2011, 05:04:24 pm »

Quote from: rednich85 on August 13, 2011, 05:00:46 pm

That game shoud have been over in the first half.

Dissappointed.

Fanno should his naivety and had a bit of a stinker in the second half.

Charie Adam looked like Alonso in the first half. He looked like Biscan at his worst in the second.

Our defensive frailty is concerning. Thought Enrique looked strong considering he hasn't been here a wet week.

I'm realy disappointed with our fitness levels. Sunderland looked stronger and fitter in the second half with is a worry.

Our play in the second half was laboured and disjointed resulting in lots of lumps to Carroll.

That's a quite good summary of the match.

shelovesyou · « **Reply #491 on:** August 13, 2011, 05:04:29 pm »

Quote from: rednich85 on August 13, 2011, 05:03:19 pm

I don't think he can be scapegoated but he was poor today Pheeny. He was at fault for the equaliser because of his positioning.

After that, his confidence was shoot and he just got progressively worse as the game went on.

Hope it doesn't have any long term confidence issue for the lad because he looked bright in the first half

Or Suarez scores the pen, its not a problem.

chrishughes · « **Reply #492 on:** August 13, 2011, 05:04:29 pm »

We can blame the ref all day long but we're going to have to win games 11 v 11. And if we have any ambition this season we're going to have to beat teams who are much better than Sunderland.

Red Cez · « **Reply #493 on:** August 13, 2011, 05:04:32 pm »

Calm down lads, its the first game of the season ffs. We ran out of puff in the second half but the first half showed what we have to look forward to this season.

Red Bird · « **Reply #494 on:** August 13, 2011, 05:04:33 pm »

There clearly is a lot of work to be done. Although we gave them a helping hand in the second half, Sunderland were surprisingly better than I thought.

Kenny's Jacket · « **Reply #495 on:** August 13, 2011, 05:04:37 pm »

Flanno poor. Should noy have been picked. Was suprised to see Henderson in team. Dirk did more in the short time he was on than Henderson.

Lucas strangely had a poor game too.

Positeves - Adam, Downing

Carroll better on the deck than I thought

flinner · « **Reply #496 on:** August 13, 2011, 05:04:41 pm »

First game of the season and some of the comments on here are fucking shocking to say the least. FFS get over it, onwards and upwards.

Gedis · « **Reply #497 on:** August 13, 2011, 05:04:41 pm »

And why did we start with Henderson? I know it was his ex club, but boy Kuyt is Hollands international and 5 times better player than Hendo is now. Sorry, but I just feel so frustrated!

danwarb · « **Reply #498 on:** August 13, 2011, 05:04:49 pm »

Flanagan lost it in the second half. Lucas and Adam became increasingly sloppy on the ball after starting so well, and Suarez tired. We were poor in that second half, Sunderland controlled it.

Thought Downing was good throughout. We have the components top side and still have Gerrard to come back in. Could have been worse but I really expected us to win it comfortable after that first half.

callanlfc5times · « **Reply #499 on:** August 13, 2011, 05:05:01 pm »

Again fucking bull shit, I seriously hate football calm as anything when there's no football but as soon as football starts again, seething rage at the shite performance in the second half and the shit refering. Same old, same old, I cant believe we didn't put them away, Steve Bruce fucking c*nt.

rizthebiz · « **Reply #500 on:** August 13, 2011, 05:05:03 pm »

Clearly need time to gel as a team.

I really dont understand where "pass and move" under kenny comes from in the games where we played Carroll. Only in the Man City game have I seen liverpool play good passing football without hoofing it up to him. We really cant expect to win games when we play so one dimensionally.

Really missed Aquaman in games like these...he has the composure and vision to make things happen in the final third...more so than Adam in my opinion.

mulhiem · « **Reply #501 on:** August 13, 2011, 05:05:05 pm »

Completely shapeless in 2nd half. Why bring Miereles on and play him wide left?

Dr Stop · « **Reply #502 on:** August 13, 2011, 05:05:05 pm »

Regarding the new signings, I thought Enrique looked great considering he's only been here a matter of hours. Very composed.
Adam looked pretty decent, though his stamina may need some work.
Downing was good, and will always give you a 7 or 8 out of ten.
I still haven't quite figured out what it is Henderson is supposed to actually do.
Carroll was a threat, and will be better as the team adapts to his game.

Zaffarious · « **Reply #503 on:** August 13, 2011, 05:05:07 pm »

i am so fucking depressed right now.

El Torres gol · « **Reply #504 on:** August 13, 2011, 05:05:08 pm »

Quote from: USC19Babel on August 13, 2011, 05:01:52 pm

Because he had a very poor game, cost us 3 points, and there's no logic to him starting and Kelly being on the bench?

Seems to be plenty of reason to me.

The cross should never have been allowed to be put in in the first place. 3 players sucked in to Gyan and left it wide open for the cross which led to their goal

Juan Loco · « **Reply #505 on:** August 13, 2011, 05:05:10 pm »

First real tough time Flanno has had of it. Think Kelly should probably have played ahead of him, but fuck it, the lad is a talent, and was his usual self first half. Hopefully he doesn't get too down and he's back to normal come his next game.

Thought we were really good in the main. Well looking forward to this season. Give it two or three weeks when we've got a bit of match sharpness and we'll be up there.

All the newbies did quite well. Enrique was a rolls royce defensively.

ghost1359 · « **Reply #506 on:** August 13, 2011, 05:05:15 pm »

Quote from: Pheeny on August 13, 2011, 04:59:49 pm

So I see we've got a new scapegoat in Flannagan then have we.

Hardly scapegoating, no one is saying it's solely Flanno's fault we've come away with only a point but he made a glaringly obvious mistake for the equaliser & just generally had a terrible 2nd half. If anyone else had played like he did today they'd of had the floor wiped with them & rightly so.

We drew the game because we didn't take advantage of our dominance in the first half, simple as that really. We had the chances to win that game by 4, easily.

thelinnen · « **Reply #507 on:** August 13, 2011, 05:05:18 pm »

that was like watching arsenal. murdered them 1-0 first half, stupid defensive error drops points and it wont get easier next week. How did larsson score that goal though? All the times he could have done that in training and he comes of with it now

Samee · « **Reply #508 on:** August 13, 2011, 05:05:19 pm »

Quote from: Ambrosia on August 13, 2011, 05:04:10 pm

This match certainly lived up to my fears.

Henderson, Downing, Adam, looking very average. Carragher looking like the relic he is, Kenny's tactics and choice of players, all poor. Hoof after hoof in the second half, no composure or brains. Also much to reliant on Suarez.

And Dowd is a fat fuck who lost us the game, how ever poor we were. Hope Kenny lays into him.

What the fuck? They were two of our better performers today.

Mutton Geoff · « **Reply #509 on:** August 13, 2011, 05:05:20 pm »

First of all lets give Sunderland some credit for closing us down well in the second half, their goal was well taken but a massive error leaving him in that much space, Flanagan will get hung out to dry on that but he is a young lad he will make mistakes so we either accept that or we kick him back into the reserves!
I can only think Kelly wasnt well or something as he didnt get the nod, first half most things working well,second half nothing working well, was it lack of fitness ?

It is the first game this can happen!

In the end we should not look for too many scapegoats (although many will) we should put this behind us and move onto the next game!

Remember "the League is a marathon and not a sprint" as some genius once said!

-RedTilDead- · « **Reply #510 on:** August 13, 2011, 05:05:20 pm »

Saw the makings and promise of a very good reds side today. We should have won but nevermind.

Sub · « **Reply #511 on:** August 13, 2011, 05:05:22 pm »

Shit result, feels like a loss. New team, same old Liverpool. Completely struggle to create when in need of a goal, so much that its actually frustrating to watch.

ewok-red · « **Reply #512 on:** August 13, 2011, 05:05:25 pm »

Quote from: Dr Manhattan on August 13, 2011, 05:02:14 pm

Couldn't be more fucked off right now if I tried. I want to smash the fucking world to bits. Two points dropped already.

Absolute shithouse performance second half, and highlights the need for another very good striker or forward. Completely and utterly out of ideas with just Carroll up there.

And I'm sorry, but Flanagan was rubbish, and starting him over Kelly was a daft choice.

Wahey, get the knives out and let the blame game begin. Get some effin perspective will you

steveeastend · « **Reply #513 on:** August 13, 2011, 05:05:27 pm »

I am very disappointed.

Apologize to HeIsBigAndRed. He told me that there were no signs for pass and move and I couldn´t believe it. We are looking more than Tottenham now than anything else, just without the class.

Without Suarez and Lucas, who both couldn´t even walk anymore in the second half as they both had no holiday and no preseason, there is really not much to see other than kick and rush. We couldn´t replace them but that was clear before the game.

On our new signings I feel not much has changed so far to convince me that Adam and Carroll are anything else than average players. Downing needs to play the ball on the ground, he and Henderson will be alright though, I think they did ok.

I couldn´t really figure out what Adam was doing other than hitting the long ball and crossing. The invisible man with very little work in defense and proper movement or passing.

But I forgot, it´s not about pass and move anymore... obviously.

I am very dissapointed. It was Sunderland at home.

Zelnaga · « **Reply #514 on:** August 13, 2011, 05:05:39 pm »

No one to blame but us. Dowd maybe a twat, and he may have sent off Richardson, but we had so many chances to kill this game.

The way we started 2nd half was inexcusable, after our first half performance. Livid.

trembles97 · « **Reply #515 on:** August 13, 2011, 05:05:43 pm »

Frustrating.

Oh well, bring on Arsenal, hopefully we can put a full 90 minutes together.

Nick110581 · « **Reply #516 on:** August 13, 2011, 05:05:45 pm »

Why are people over reacting?

Aristotle · « **Reply #517 on:** August 13, 2011, 05:05:50 pm »

Quote from: robbie keane on August 13, 2011, 05:02:02 pm

He pushed him in the back, it was clear.

If that was the standard for disallowing a goal, Kevin Davies wouldn't have made it past 10 goals. IT was a "Crouch treatment" simple as

Nonex · « **Reply #518 on:** August 13, 2011, 05:05:54 pm »

Quote from: Ambrosia on August 13, 2011, 05:04:10 pm

This match certainly lived up to my fears.

Henderson, Downing, Adam, looking very average. Carragher looking like the relic he is, Kenny's tactics and choice of players, all poor. Hoof after hoof in the second half, no composure or brains. Also much to reliant on Suarez.

And Dowd is a fat fuck who lost us the game, how ever poor we were. Hope Kenny lays into him.

What a positive, constructive comment.

Dr Manhattan · « **Reply #519 on:** August 13, 2011, 05:05:57 pm »

My god, now nobody's allowed to have a pop at Flanagan either.