Topic: General Manchester City thread

[puroresu_kid]

Pep should have released them last summer. I understand that he already got rid of Mangala, Nasri and Hart back then, and perhaps didn't want to make such wholesale changes, but he should have. These guys fooled people into thinking that they can mount a title challenge.

Only so much you can do in one window.

[Xxavi]

Only so much you can do in one window.

True. I don't want to excuse Pep, I expected a better title challenge (I expected him to actually win it).

That said, as the season went on, it was yet again painfully obvious that a good 80-90% of the City squad are past it old players (most of whom weren't world class even in their best days). He had Sagna, Clichy, Zabaleta, Kolarov, Mangala, Nasri, Bony, Toure, Fernando etc. at his disposal, but frankly these guys aren't good enough to play for a top 6 club. Pep tried a couple of tactical set ups with full backs coming into midfield and stuff, and it was very hard to watch the likes of Clichy and Sagna try to pass in midfield. Painful stuff.

[killer-heels]

City are going to be brilliant next year. If you are in the game of worrying about other sides (which i am not) then i found it amazing the amount of people scared of what Man Utd will do whilst ignoring Man City.

[ggcc14]

Got to laugh at the Manchester clubs, if they don't challenge/win the league next year pep and jose should be sacked immediately.

Do they need Silva with all their options?
Hope he likes playing in front of empty seats.

He played for Monaco of course he does

[Nick110581]

City are going to be brilliant next year. If you are in the game of worrying about other sides (which i am not) then i found it amazing the amount of people scared of what Man Utd will do whilst ignoring Man City.

Exactly this.

They will tear the league up providing they keep all those players.

Just needs a keeper and defence.

[PeterTheRed ...]

City are going to be brilliant next year. If you are in the game of worrying about other sides (which i am not) then i found it amazing the amount of people scared of what Man Utd will do whilst ignoring Man City.

They will be good, but far from brilliant. It takes more than a couple of very good transfer windows to create a brilliant team. Also, their team will be much younger and less experienced next season, and they will pay the adequate price for that.

[killer-heels]

They will be good, but far from brilliant. It takes more than a couple of very good transfer windows to create a brilliant team. Also, their team will be much younger and less experienced next season, and they will pay the adequate price for that.

Its just an opinion. I think they will be brilliant because they have the talent going forward.

That doesnt mean that we cannot do better than them but if you are asking me who the biggest competition will be then its them.

[Xxavi]

ManCity started playing really well, especially after Gabriel Jesus' arrival. Pep needs some players in defense, but even without a stellar defense, they will be good. I think more than CBs, they need a great right back and a great left back. In Pep's tactical systems, they play such a huge role.

[thelinnen]

Got to laugh at the Manchester clubs, if they don't challenge/win the league next year pep and jose should be sacked immediately.

Do they need Silva with all their options?
Hope he likes playing in front of empty seats.

To be fair don't Monaco have their fair share of empty seats? Should help with the transition 

[please, I have my reasons for it but...]

So probably getting Silva, Mendy and Walker in the same day.

As much as I am optimistic about our summer so far, it makes me jealous seeing them getting their business done without countless articles by journos close to the club about how they're monitoring, confident and cautiously optimistic about getting X, Y & Z.

[Henry Gale]

Very strange comment and judgment.

Guardiola will not be in trouble at City even if he doesn't win either of those. His Barca buddies are there, and when he was hired, there was a clear understanding that some team building is necessary.

Also, surprised you think Mourinho has bought himself time. They have been garbage for a good chunk of the season, forget about point difference, if you cannot see the difference in ManCity and ManU's football, then you must be blind. Go and look at redcafe and see what ManU fans think of Mourinho and his football. They just about tolerated Mourinho this season, he will not have any more time than Guardiola at all. A good chunk of ManU fans are ready to consider options, 1 more season of crap football and league/FA cup won't save Mourinho there.

I don't know in what world are you if you think Mourinho has done better (either results or football wise) than Guardiola this season. If you are to judge who is more likely to get the boot, Mourinho has a huge lead at this point.

A lot will disagree but I think Mourinho has had  a better season. Got Champions league football same as Pep but also got a couple trophies. Yes his team has played shit and boring football but I doubt they care too much long as their winning trophies.

[jillcwhomever]

City are such a soulless club now, it's just spend, spend, spend. It quite mind numbing reading about their future plans, all about money and no romance at all. Also if half these rumours are true what chance do any of their talented young players stand, especially if they are buying so much young talent, it actually makes you wonder why they sign these academy players in the first place. Very depressing to be honest.

[RyanBabel19]

Credit to them, that's a sublime signing

B. Silva, D. Silva, De Bruyne, Sane, Aguero, Jesus

Is an impressive attack

[J-Mc-]

Silva is an obvious talent however we've seen players like him before simply struggle in this league.

Fantastic sinig but I reckon he'll take a while to bed in and they won't see the best of him until another season in.

[please, I have my reasons for it but...]

[RyanBabel19]

Silva is an obvious talent however we've seen players like him before simply struggle in this league.

Fantastic sinig but I reckon he'll take a while to bed in and they won't see the best of him until another season in.

Reckon he'll settle in very quickly

[El Lobo]

Who gives a fuck? Hardly struggling for good creative AM types are they?

Makes Coutinho worth a shitload more as well, Christ knows what he'll be worth in a few years when this guy and Pogback are going for the fees they have.

[MNTY]

Clichy has been very poor anytime I've seen him play
this year no surprise he's out.

[killer-heels]

Great signing. Looked an amazing player everytime I watched Monaco.

That full back Mendy also looked really good as well.

[Xxavi]

A lot will disagree but I think Mourinho has had  a better season. Got Champions league football same as Pep but also got a couple trophies. Yes his team has played shit and boring football but I doubt they care too much long as their winning trophies.

You probably don't care only if you look up the match results online once a week. But if you and watch, I bet you care. Even if you watch on TV.

The fact that ManU fans care is evident from the sacking of Aloysius Paulus Maria "Louis" van Gaal. Also, there have been lots of threads on redcafe criticizing Mourinho for the style of football. I am saying, the calls for sacking aren't louder only because of the smaller trophies (which Mourinho disrespected and called non-achievement himself earlier in his career). They all perfectly understand it that it is a gimmick, an excuse to be patient. There is no way they are happy or think their season or current situation is any better than ManCity's.

Another fact is, a lot of ManU fans tried to avoid being all too critical of Mourinho for one major reason. A lot of times, in those discussions, the question is "if not Mourinho, who do we hire next?" There is no clear answer to that, so they are afraid of situation getting even worse. I am sure if they believed that a top tier manager is available, more than half of them won't make a fuss if Mourinho is kicked out.

[killer-heels]

Maybe we can get Sterling back off them?

[Xxavi]

Re-Bernardo Silva, he is my type of player. Love attacking mids with good technique.

Txiki has been upping his game as of recent. From spending 50m on Mangala and 30m on Bony to signing Gundogan, Bernardo Silva and Gabriel Jesus for very reasonable price. Great pieces of business. Looking at the asking price for Mbappe, there is no way that Gabriel Jesus' market price is less than 100m in today's market. Pep's pulling power and much criticized Txiki have to be praised here.

[killer-heels]

Re-Bernardo Silva, he is my type of player. Love attacking mids with good technique.

Txiki has been upping his game as of recent. From spending 50m on Mangala and 30m on Bony to signing Gundogan, Bernardo Silva and Gabriel Jesus for very reasonable price. Great pieces of business. Looking at the asking price for Mbappe, there is no way that Gabriel Jesus' market price is less than 100m in today's market. Pep's pulling power and much criticized Txiki have to be praised here.

Yeah I mean nobody knew who Gundogan or Bernardo Silva were. Well done to Guardiola with signing players few know about or of whom doubts of their ability remain.

[Xxavi]

Yeah I mean nobody knew who Gundogan or Bernardo Silva were. Well done to Guardiola with signing players few know about or of whom doubts of their ability remain.

Haha that's not the point. The point is, Txiki has been spending silly money on complete garbage players. But in the past 1-2 years, their transfers have improved (as in they don't grossly overspend). They got De Bruyne, Sane, Gundogan, Gabriel Jesus etc. all at a much lower than market values.

Pep deserves a praise, maybe praise is a wrong word here, for convincing them to join. Gabriel Jesus gave an interview where he said he had offers from more reputable clubs (Madrid, Barca etc.) but chose City because of Pep Guardiola. Pep is getting involved in these transfers, calling players and explaining how he plans to employ them.

If you think these players received offers from only City, you are deluded. Each of these players had interest and offers/interest from other big clubs, ManU, Bayern Munich, Barcelona, Real Madrid. Pep has his own pulling power for City. I truly believe that back when Isco to ManCity rumors were going around if Pep was their coach, they would have signed him.

[Dim Glas]

No mate, they are letting go far too many experienced players this summer (Hart, Caballero, Zabaleta, Sagna, Clichy, Mangala, Fernando, Nasri, Navas, Nolito, Bony, with Toure also out of contract) for them to be pursuing short term success next season. They are obviously building a team for the long term, and that is why their most expensive signings are at the age of 19-22.

nope,  pressure will be on him, and rightly so.  And it's not short term success I'm on about, come on now.

He has to deliver both in the short and long term. He's had his bedding in season now. 

And if he doesn't, those dickhead fans of theirs will turn on him soon enough which won't help.

[Bend It Like Aurelio]

I do think though that they are going to sign an English player next to meet the homegrown quota, as I think they're short of the quota now to fill a complete squad. Or is he intending to fill the rest of the slots with academy players?

[Xxavi]

I do think though that they are going to sign an English player next to meet the homegrown quota, as I think they're short of the quota now to fill a complete squad. Or is he intending to fill the rest of the slots with academy players?

Walker is rumored to be going to City. But I think Pep should just use academy players. English players with top quality are very rare to find and are very overpriced.

[Bend It Like Aurelio]

Walker is rumored to be going to City. But I think Pep should just use academy players. English players with top quality are very rare to find and are very overpriced.

That has not stopped them from buying a multitude of them the last few years. WIth Clichy gone, I think they only have Stones, Sterling and Delph left as the senior homegrown players, unless if Hart stays. They will be left short with an injury to any one of them.

I imagine a raid of Tottenham is on the cards. Why stop at Walker when you can get Dier or Rose also? Hmmm....

[clinical]

£43m how the fuck have they managed that.

[mc_red22]

£43m how the fuck have they managed that.

Some add-ons have to be hidden in that deal. No chance that's the max they will pay.

[newrosswaterford]

£43m how the fuck have they managed that.

If you were silva looking around at where he would like to play, were it would suit him best city looks very very good.


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[clinical]

Some add-ons have to be hidden in that deal. No chance that's the max they will pay.

If I was only £43m in this market. I doubt you will see a better value signing this summer.

[rawcusk8]

Maybe we can get Sterling back off them?

Steady.

It's no secret that these are going to go all out this summer.. If we get our first choice targets in I honestly think we'll be more than a match for any of our rivals.

[Adam_LFC]

They won't let Sterling go. He was quietly decent this season and he fills a home-grown quota spot.

[theartist]

This kid spent 10 years at Benfica youth teams, played a total of 10 minutes (10!!!!!) for Benfica main team and was sold for 15M€ to Monaco by Jorge Mendes. Now City.
Benfica has to get rid of Jorge Mendes influence. Renato Sanches played 30 games for the main team... things are getting ridiculous for Benfica, now we can´t keep the kids more than one season. Ederson, Nelson Semedo and Lindelof are next. As soon as we start to love a player we have to also start thinking if he will make more 10 games for us.

[PeterTheRed ...]

Maybe we can get Sterling back off them?

To do what? He won't get anywhere near our staring XI, and he is on £200,000 per week.

[Sir Psycho Sexy]

Will be interesting to see how he goes from playing in Ligue 1 and France's best team, to adaptimg to the PL. Rarely do players settle quickly when a chamge like that happens

[Lush is the best medicine...]

This kid spent 10 years at Benfica youth teams, played a total of 10 minutes (10!!!!!) for Benfica main team and was sold for 15M€ to Monaco by Jorge Mendes. Now City.
Benfica has to get rid of Jorge Mendes influence. Renato Sanches played 30 games for the main team... things are getting ridiculous for Benfica, now we can´t keep the kids more than one season. Ederson, Nelson Semedo and Lindelof are next. As soon as we start to love a player we have to also start thinking if he will make more 10 games for us.

doesnt Mendes sign most of the good Portuguese talents at a very young age, bit difficult to avoid him?

[Lush is the best medicine...]

https://twitter.com/mancity/status/868074235834617856

Nice to see him with the kid at the end

[rafathegaffa83]

Some add-ons have to be hidden in that deal. No chance that's the max they will pay.

Telegraph are claiming its just £43m