Author Topic: BBC 'Decisions' on Match of the Day (Read 5469 times)

Andy @ Allerton! · « **on:** February 6, 2011, 07:22:59 am »

Plenty of things shown on Match of the Day. But what I'm wondering is why the penalty appeal after 40 seconds for Wolves wasn't shown?

Every other one was - why not this one? This is a regular occurance - a potential decision doesn't get given against Manchester United. It isn't shown and therefore is soon relegated into the land of 'it never happened'. I actually know some people that believe that Match of the Day is impartial and shows every instance. Incredibly, I also know some people that base their opinion on any particular game not only on the limited replay of the game, but on what the pundits say about the game - whether those pundits are from the BBC, ITV or Sly. Where does that idea come from? I've had a few arguments after I've been to the game to be told such-and-such 'happened' because that's what the BBC said on match of the day.

But someone, somewhere made a concious and deliberate decision not to show the Wolves penalty appeal. Why? It (again) altered the whole game. Why make such a ridiculous decision?

J-Mc- · « **Reply #1 on:** February 6, 2011, 07:25:01 am »

I'll hold my hands up and say that I thought they showed every important decision in games.

I suppose that if the Mancs had won/it'd been a draw, it would have been shown, but due to the fact that they lost, they didn't see it as important to include due to Wolves winning anyway?

chrissy mac · « **Reply #2 on:** February 6, 2011, 07:42:58 am »

i blame garth crooks!!!

Jack Slater · « **Reply #3 on:** February 6, 2011, 08:36:20 am »

This issue came up in Italy a few years ago. The TV stations either werent showing replays of dodgy decisions favouring Juve at all. OR, if they did show a replay, it was from an angle that masked the ref's "error". If a camera angle existed which showed how bad the decision was, then that angle was never shown.

R.A.La · « **Reply #4 on:** February 6, 2011, 09:05:45 am »

Didn't giggsywiggsy kick out at someone towards the end of the game aswel?

Can't understand why the mancs are so revered by MOTD when the govan tramp treats them with so much disrespect.

Ah well at least they had a go at "rascally" ginger c*nt.

Andy @ Allerton! · « **Reply #5 on:** February 6, 2011, 09:25:28 am »

Quote from: R.A.La on February 6, 2011, 09:05:45 am

Didn't giggsywiggsy kick out at someone towards the end of the game aswel?

Can't understand why the mancs are so revered by MOTD when the govan tramp treats them with so much disrespect.

Ah well at least they had a go at "rascally" ginger c*nt.

Yeah. He could have gone for that.

Dubit10 · « **Reply #6 on:** February 6, 2011, 10:04:12 am »

Yernited are favoured by the media. They are now and always have been. Look at Paul Scholes as an example. One of the most dirty players in the history of the game, yet his constant bad loser reaction when Yernited are losing including setting out to hurt an opponent on the field of play is laughed off by pundits the length and breath of the country as nothing more than a player who can't tackle. Another example is Rooney constantly shouting and abusing referees to their face and nowt mentioned in the media about it. And don't get me started on the infamous "respect" campaign.

Uhoh AureliOs · « **Reply #7 on:** February 6, 2011, 10:04:52 am »

I think it's a case of incompetence rather than intentional bias.

Alf · « **Reply #8 on:** February 6, 2011, 10:05:40 am »

What I have noticed is with ESPN and Setanta live games when MOTD or Goals on Sunday show highlights afterwards they are always fairly brief. I wonder if it's written into the TV rights.

Dubit10 · « **Reply #9 on:** February 6, 2011, 10:06:26 am »

Quote from: Uhoh AureliOs on February 6, 2011, 10:04:52 am

I think it's a case of incompetence rather than intentional bias.

It happens way to often for it to be incompetence imo.

rushs-tash · « **Reply #10 on:** February 6, 2011, 12:25:11 pm »

Quote from: R.A.La on February 6, 2011, 09:05:45 am

Didn't giggsywiggsy kick out at someone towards the end of the game aswel?

Can't understand why the mancs are so revered by MOTD when the govan tramp treats them with so much disrespect.

Ah well at least they had a go at "rascally" ginger c*nt.

Aww, the little Ginger rascal the best English player of our generation - he's just a clumsy tackler and uses his hands to head in crosses - lolz, bless him

the good half · « **Reply #11 on:** February 6, 2011, 12:43:08 pm »

There should be a 'Strange Decisiions Thread' on here.

But anyway - Is deliberate Handball NOT a bookable offence?
Did Scholes get a card?
Did Giggs for clipping Doyle?

Rotation · « **Reply #12 on:** February 6, 2011, 12:51:26 pm »

Quote from: the good half on February 6, 2011, 12:43:08 pm

But anyway - Is deliberate Handball NOT a bookable offence?
Did Scholes get a card?

Yes he did

Jack the Red · « **Reply #13 on:** February 6, 2011, 01:02:50 pm »

Quote from: R.A.La on February 6, 2011, 09:05:45 am

Didn't giggsywiggsy kick out at someone towards the end of the game aswel?

Can't understand why the mancs are so revered by MOTD when the govan tramp treats them with so much disrespect.

Ah well at least they had a go at "rascally" ginger c*nt.

Just watched last nights MOTD. I knew they wouldn't show the Giggs incident. Fucking knew it.

Learpholl · « **Reply #14 on:** February 6, 2011, 01:13:09 pm »

Does anyone have a video with the Giggs incident just so I can prove to my United supporting mate that it actually happened?

..Bruiser.. · « **Reply #15 on:** February 6, 2011, 01:15:52 pm »

O would expect the BBC to be less toward them, partly because Taggart doesn't speak to them.

Buzby · « **Reply #16 on:** February 6, 2011, 02:13:20 pm »

Quote from: Alf on February 6, 2011, 10:05:40 am

What I have noticed is with ESPN and Setanta live games when MOTD or Goals on Sunday show highlights afterwards they are always fairly brief. I wonder if it's written into the TV rights.

They do take into account if a game has already been broadcast or not when deciding on how much time to dedicate to each match, along with a host of other factors. Perhaps not unreasonably, if a game has been shown live they work on the presumption that many of the people with an interest in that particular match will already have seen it.

As with all members of media, they are not in the "tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth" business. They are in the story selling / entertainment business. As such, for any game they have to decide on the narrative they wish to use for it. Because the game in question had already been broadcast they chose to use relatively short highlights and they concentrated on the "league leaders finally beaten" angle.

If people are silly enough to think they can watch edited highlights placed into a neat story and form an informed opinion based on that then I suggest ignoring them! It's rather like someone watching an hour special on the Discovery channel about "planets" and then trying to debate an astrophysicist... I doubt the scientist would spend too much time getting upset about the idiot talking to them in that instance!

Paulie's Wallnuts · « **Reply #17 on:** February 6, 2011, 02:23:19 pm »

Anyone also notice that they only showed 4-5 passes out of 31 or ~~Raul's~~ Torres' goal the other week?

Had that been Arsenal it would have been replayed 50 gazillion times

JoeD · « **Reply #18 on:** February 7, 2011, 12:06:21 pm »

Quote from: Andy@Allerton on February 6, 2011, 07:22:59 am

Plenty of things shown on Match of the Day. But what I'm wondering is why the penalty appeal after 40 seconds for Wolves wasn't shown?

Every other one was - why not this one? This is a regular occurance - a potential decision doesn't get given against Manchester United. It isn't shown and therefore is soon relegated into the land of 'it never happened'. I actually know some people that believe that Match of the Day is impartial and shows every instance. Incredibly, I also know some people that base their opinion on any particular game not only on the limited replay of the game, but on what the pundits say about the game - whether those pundits are from the BBC, ITV or Sly. Where does that idea come from? I've had a few arguments after I've been to the game to be told such-and-such 'happened' because that's what the BBC said on match of the day.

But someone, somewhere made a concious and deliberate decision not to show the Wolves penalty appeal. Why? It (again) altered the whole game. Why make such a ridiculous decision?

I'd suggest expanding on the "people you know".

How can MOTD be impartial? They have an ex Everton and Spurs player that presents the show every week.

west_london_red · « **Reply #19 on:** February 7, 2011, 12:43:51 pm »

What I didnt get is the programme straight after when they show the championship and lower league games - Ginsoaks son gave the BBC an interview.... I thought the reason he doesnt give them interviews is because of what they said about him son?!?!

RedRabbit · « **Reply #20 on:** February 7, 2011, 12:55:01 pm »

Quote from: west_london_red on February 7, 2011, 12:43:51 pm

What I didnt get is the programme straight after when they show the championship and lower league games - Ginsoaks son gave the BBC an interview.... I thought the reason he doesnt give them interviews is because of what they said about him son?!?!

That's his other son isn't it? One of them is a agent and I think it was about that one. I'm not sure though.
Think he should be fined every week he doesn't turn up for MOTD. Blatantly breaking contract agreements and nobody seems to give a shit.

west_london_red · « **Reply #21 on:** February 7, 2011, 12:57:57 pm »

Quote from: RedRabbit on February 7, 2011, 12:55:01 pm

That's his other son isn't it? One of them is a agent and I think it was about that one. I'm not sure though.
Think he should be fined every week he doesn't turn up for MOTD. Blatantly breaking contract agreements and nobody seems to give a shit.

Didnt realise hed spawned more then one offspring

jaffod · « **Reply #22 on:** February 7, 2011, 01:09:48 pm »

Quote from: west_london_red on February 7, 2011, 12:57:57 pm

Didnt realise hed spawned more then one offspring

He shits them out on the hard shoulder.

Bangin Them In · « **Reply #23 on:** February 7, 2011, 01:20:21 pm »

Quote from: chrissy mac on February 6, 2011, 07:42:58 am

i blame garth crooks!!!

In Garths defence

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/score_on_bbci/7631245.stm

TopKopster · « **Reply #24 on:** February 7, 2011, 01:24:19 pm »

Have we got some much ire to vent that when we win and the manc tramps lose we still can't just enjoy it and have to see a conspiracy round the corner? We had a couple of decisions go our way on the weekend and nobody can say we weren't due them, if they had gone for the mancs there would have been howls of derision. Just enjoy the fact that we won FFS and stop whinging about those twats down the 62.

RedRabbit · « **Reply #25 on:** February 7, 2011, 01:26:47 pm »

Quote from: TopKopster on February 7, 2011, 01:24:19 pm

Have we got some much ire to vent that when we win and the manc tramps lose we still can't just enjoy it and have to see a conspiracy round the corner? We had a couple of decisions go our way on the weekend and nobody can say we weren't due them, if they had gone for the mancs there would have been howls of derision. Just enjoy the fact that we won FFS and stop whinging about those twats down the 62.

No.

Andy @ Allerton! · « **Reply #26 on:** February 7, 2011, 10:47:34 pm »

Quote from: JoeD on February 7, 2011, 12:06:21 pm

I'd suggest expanding on the "people you know".

How can MOTD be impartial? They have an ex Everton and Spurs player that presents the show every week.

The people that I know that think Match of the Day/Goals on Sunday represent what happened in matches as true are invariably Mancs that seem to enjoy spending their time annoying me and then being made to look stupid.

JoeD · « **Reply #27 on:** February 7, 2011, 11:21:29 pm »

Quote from: Andy@Allerton on February 7, 2011, 10:47:34 pm

The people that I know that think Match of the Day/Goals on Sunday represent what happened in matches as true are invariably Mancs that seem to enjoy spending their time annoying me and then being made to look stupid.

Could not agree with you more.

I like to think we could go back to the days where supporters primarily watched their own team play and would follow/watch and take interest in other teams a little less.

In this day and age with the advent 24 hour access to YouTube/a Sky HD box/ Net forums/ Blogs/Multimedia applications/SSN to view any amount of footage of football games at your own leisure; it is nearing impossible.

To think back in the good old days one would have access to a newspaper (match report), a wireless (live commentary) and the opportunity to watch highlights of games once (if they had not invested in a VHS – and god bless Des Lynam too) or simply stand on the terrace while supporting their own team.

We live in a different age now.

JamesG L4 · « **Reply #28 on:** February 7, 2011, 11:37:47 pm »

Andy is more obsessed with Man U than they are about us. That's a horrific fact.

RJH · « **Reply #29 on:** February 7, 2011, 11:40:17 pm »

Quote from: RedRabbit on February 7, 2011, 12:55:01 pm

That's his other son isn't it? One of them is a agent and I think it was about that one. I'm not sure though.
Think he should be fined every week he doesn't turn up for MOTD. Blatantly breaking contract agreements and nobody seems to give a shit.

He is supposed to be fined. New rules were brought in this season.
However, for some reason it took several months for the PL to get round to actually agreeing on what level the fine should be set at. Apparently, that decision was made 14 weeks ago.
Since then they've not enforced the decision as they're apparently still trying to find other ways to get Ferguson to start talking to the BBC.
Of course, quite why that would mean he'd be allowed to get away with 6 months of rule-breaking is anyone's guess.

TopKopster · « **Reply #30 on:** February 14, 2011, 09:03:14 am »

Interesting this, Wolves had what the radio called a "stonewall penalty" not given against Arseanal yet on MOTD there was no sign of it.

Kopite B205 · « **Reply #31 on:** February 14, 2011, 09:09:06 am »

I wouldnt let it bother you.

Paulie's Wallnuts · « **Reply #32 on:** February 14, 2011, 09:57:10 am »

Quote from: TopKopster on February 14, 2011, 09:03:14 am

Interesting this, Wolves had what the radio called a "stonewall penalty" not given against Arseanal yet on MOTD there was no sign of it.

Not suprised mate. I try to catch Goals on Sunday which shows the highlights in more detail. The pundits are slightly less c*nt-ish than the MOTD lot but still c*nts

rednich85 · « **Reply #33 on:** February 14, 2011, 10:05:53 am »

Quote from: west_london_red on February 7, 2011, 12:57:57 pm

Didnt realise hed spawned more then one offspring

Either did he.

Walshy nMe® · « **Reply #34 on:** February 14, 2011, 10:53:58 am »

Did they show Rooney's goal, as it was the bestest goal I have ever seen! Such brilliance, shuch agility.

vicgill · « **Reply #35 on:** February 14, 2011, 10:58:55 am »

Quote from: Andy@Allerton on February 6, 2011, 09:25:28 am

Yeah. He could have gone for that.

But he didn't Andy, I'm willing to bet any other player of any other club would have had a ban by now

vicgill · « **Reply #36 on:** February 14, 2011, 11:15:20 am »

earlier this season Preston North End sacked their manager for taking them to the bottom of the Championship, immediately Man Utd asked for their loan players back and then a little later Stoke City asked for their loan players back. Nice to see the LMA in action

vicgill · « **Reply #37 on:** February 14, 2011, 11:27:57 am »

Quote from: Voltaire on February 7, 2011, 11:37:47 pm

Andy is more obsessed with Man U than they are about us. That's a horrific fact.

Well I suppose I am then, there is something going on and it needs to be sorted, I don't hate man Utd, it's their Manager I don't like and wether you like it or not taggart gets away with murder, for some reason the media are afraid of falling foul of him.

whtwht · « **Reply #38 on:** February 14, 2011, 11:35:28 am »

Quote from: Walshy® on February 14, 2011, 10:53:58 am

Did they show Rooney's goal, as it was the bestest goal I have ever seen! Such brilliance, shuch agility.

So true

Marco Van Basten ,Robin Van Persie ... ... Trevor Sinclair dont even come close .

I swear Jean Pierre Papin scored a similar goal** goes to youtube**

Andy @ Allerton! · « **Reply #39 on:** February 14, 2011, 11:37:11 am »

Interesting yesterday. If I'm doing stuff, I have the TV on in the background and more often than not, I leave BBC News 24 on.

What was interesting was that the Rooney 'wonder goal' (An overhead kick that he actually shinned and was lucky that it went towards goal) was shown again and again and all the other goals of that day were shown. With one glaring exception. The Wigan equaliser was shown and the Meireles goal was not. Again. Someone has decided to show every other goal of every game that day. But one. That's a choice. Not an oversight.