I’m sorry if you thought I said that. I said we will have to look at outcomes (not deliberations or processes). I am encouraged by what they say (and what they’ve done in the past) but I’m more interested in what they do.
If you don’t think we have mutual interest than you are at war again with our owners. You should say so and you should get them out. I am wary, but for now, I would disagree with you.
Maybe, just maybe. Moores and Parry went the wrong way. I have my doubts about 'mogul' owners - it is inherently less democratic but it does offer better leadership, maybe - but leaders can only lead where followers will go - we are where we are. We have to deal with that reality but that give us influence if not power.
Let me clarify that:
1. I am not saying that there is no mutual interest between the Club, owners, and the fans. There is, significantly. I am saying that there can be - is - critical deviation as well. To think or imitate otherwise is naive.
2. I am not saying the owners need to consult the fans on every issue . However on some critical issues and one as emotional as the stadium, they should. Indeed - here's our difference - for the stadium, the process is as important as the outcome. They should at least handle the fans as a director without a seat or vote on the board - if you know what I mean.
Yes, let's agree to disagree. A fundamental difference between us, I suspect, is how we view the nature of the Club. I view it as a
social institution run on business principles.
On the other hand, I do agree that "we are where we are" cos in reality the Club is registered as a commercial enterprise. It means both the fans and the owners have to balance our expectation / interaction with reality and respect. (Yes, respect. Such an old fashioned word.....)
Also from everything heard and read, I have quiet confidence that the current owners is the real deal. But as you said, outcome is most important. Words are cheap. Building trust is delicate - and a higher degree of transparency than at present will help some way for us.