Author Topic: Roy Hodgson tells Glen Johnson to get his act together (Read 130934 times)

Slick_Beef · « **Reply #1280 on:** January 5, 2011, 11:11:33 pm »

Quote from: bigbear on January 5, 2011, 10:46:31 pm

Was one of the few players that did anything tonight.

He's fine going forward, but he was absolutely disgraceful in defence tonight....again. he's a liability and doesn't deserve his place in the starting eleven. if he wasn't English he'd be getting slaughtered by the media.

DHlaREd · « **Reply #1281 on:** January 5, 2011, 11:12:18 pm »

Johnson was out of position loads as usual with him how u can say him an cole who was also out of position wer any good just madness
Wether ther positioning is down to what the manager wants them to do is another matter

Rednyte · « **Reply #1282 on:** January 5, 2011, 11:13:18 pm »

was to blame for 2 goals. awful defending.

downtown · « **Reply #1283 on:** January 5, 2011, 11:14:05 pm »

I am his biggest fan, but he had a very bad game tonight

smicer07 · « **Reply #1284 on:** January 5, 2011, 11:14:45 pm »

Maybe if Roy hadn't slagged the lad off when he was injured, he might be putting in better performances.

Elzar · « **Reply #1285 on:** January 5, 2011, 11:14:45 pm »

Glen was poor, but had no help from Cole all game.

CHOPPER · « **Reply #1286 on:** January 5, 2011, 11:16:31 pm »

Quote from: Breitner on January 5, 2011, 11:04:47 pm

Usually agree with a lot you say mate but have to agree to disagree on Johnson. Never liked him, the poor defending isn't a myth and he's always got a concentration lapse in him.

I think they call that lapse narcolepsy.

Supernatural · « **Reply #1287 on:** January 5, 2011, 11:18:23 pm »

and we did brought him for 20M

Crackerjack Sam · « **Reply #1288 on:** January 5, 2011, 11:20:36 pm »

Martin Kelly rotting on the bench!

WHY?

TOMMO86 · « **Reply #1289 on:** January 5, 2011, 11:21:44 pm »

to be fair he shouldn't be playing at RB we need to shift him to RM and Kelly at RB

Chakan · « **Reply #1290 on:** January 5, 2011, 11:22:07 pm »

Awful game for johnson tonight. No covering for him today, he was woeful

Alonso_The_Assassin · « **Reply #1291 on:** January 5, 2011, 11:23:29 pm »

Quote from: Breitner on January 5, 2011, 11:04:47 pm

Usually agree with a lot you say mate but have to agree to disagree on Johnson. Never liked him, the poor defending isn't a myth and he's always got a concentration lapse in him.

Wouldn't say I never liked him, but I've always preferred Arbeloa at right back. Johnson concentration levels are pretty piss poor for a guy who supposed to be England's right back.

His defending was atrocious tonight. Had to laugh at the poster claiming he was our best right back since Phil Neal. Laughable.

McSquared · « **Reply #1292 on:** January 5, 2011, 11:24:07 pm »

Quote from: TOMMO86 on January 5, 2011, 11:21:44 pm

to be fair he shouldn't be playing at RB we need to shift him to RM and Kelly at RB

Kelly isn't a RB though is he, albeit he is better than GJ, which says what about GJ?

Mohsosa · « **Reply #1293 on:** January 5, 2011, 11:24:36 pm »

It wasn't Johnson's fault he was playing as a centre-half for their first goal. Soto and Skrtel were all over the show.

Trotterwatch · « **Reply #1294 on:** January 5, 2011, 11:26:24 pm »

In fairness I can't understand why on earth he is a right back, surely he'd do better as an attacking right sided midfielder.

therockbox · « **Reply #1295 on:** January 5, 2011, 11:26:42 pm »

Quote from: McSquared on January 5, 2011, 11:24:07 pm

albeit he is better than GJ,

No he isn't.

For their first goal tonight he was caught in two minds because Kyrgiakos was miles out of position. Didn't know whether to cover CB (where Olssen was heading) or hold his position.

Mad Men · « **Reply #1296 on:** January 5, 2011, 11:26:45 pm »

Quote from: davideadly on January 5, 2011, 11:24:36 pm

It wasn't Johnson's fault he was playing as a centre-half for their first goal. Soto and Skrtel were all over the show.

Tactics were bad. Management of the team even worse.

Manager has to take the flack for this. But as always, it's EVERYONE else's fault but Roy's.

His post match comments are an absolute JOKE as usual.

Slick_Beef · « **Reply #1297 on:** January 5, 2011, 11:27:12 pm »

Quote from: davideadly on January 5, 2011, 11:24:36 pm

It wasn't Johnson's fault he was playing as a centre-half for their first goal. Soto and Skrtel were all over the show.

yeah but he should still have some basic defending skills. i don't think that's unreasonable to expect from someone who has made a career as a defender. He was making Benjani look like Maradona!

Samee · « **Reply #1298 on:** January 5, 2011, 11:29:09 pm »

Again back to the Kelly argument. He's not better than Glen. The ripping he got at Wigan from N'Zogbia and Moses proves that. Johnson proved his quality when he had Bale in his back pocket at White Hart Lane. The thing with attacking full backs is if the team is playing shit they play ridiculously shit. E.g. Maicon and Dani Alves.

Spanish Al · « **Reply #1299 on:** January 5, 2011, 11:30:35 pm »

The goal when Soto and Skrtel didnt track back quick enough was partly Johnsons fault, but you can see why he never dealt with it. He was in a centre halfs position and was stuck in two minds as there was no one there to communicate with. Gerrard is just as much, maybe even more to blame then Johnson for not tracking Olsson, who he was standing goal side of and suddenly let him go. That is why Gerrard is not disciplined enough to be a central midfielder now. But thats for a different thread.

Also, the goal by the corner flag was Skrtels fault. He was in the corner, Johnsons job was to tackle and cover if the Blackburn man was to turn back out away from our goal line, Skrtel just had to keep him where he was. How the fuck he managed to let him past I dont fucking know. Really shocked.

Overall, he was very good tonight. Went forward with intent and made some acute balls, and also defended very well in general making a few good tackles and blocks.

scatman · « **Reply #1300 on:** January 5, 2011, 11:34:04 pm »

he was in the same 2 minds as Lucas was against Newcastle, didnt know what to do as he was in a centre half position, so thought he'd play offside but Konchesky fucked that up

ynwabuckeye · « **Reply #1301 on:** January 5, 2011, 11:36:03 pm »

He seems completely fine when he's on the attack. He's interested and makes runs with conviction. When he has to assume his defensive responsibilites he looks as if he doesn't want to be bothered. His body language, concentration, etc. seem to flip whenever he crosses the midfield line. If it's not our center halves leaving Johnson out to dry, it's Johnson abandoning them. Zero trust. Zero cohesion. It's no better at the other end to be fair. At the end of the day I prefer my defenders to be better at defending than attacking or at least more interested in it, for starters.

LFCfan4Life · « **Reply #1302 on:** January 5, 2011, 11:37:39 pm »

Quote from: rapcage on January 5, 2011, 11:34:04 pm

he was in the same 2 minds as Lucas was against Newcastle, didnt know what to do as he was in a centre half position, so thought he'd play offside but Konchesky fucked that up

exactly a defender caught in two minds let down by the full back on the opposite flank who didnt need to be that deep

i thought konchesky also picked up a very poor position for the third considering benjani was standing still for me he should have been tighter to the him rather than hugging our own keeper

No Way José · « **Reply #1303 on:** January 5, 2011, 11:38:21 pm »

The defence is so unbalanced and slow apart from Glenn that when we defend as deep as we do and he's been the one trying to bomb forward, he's always going to get caught out of position now and again.
In seasons past we would have had Masch covering for him.
We saw tonight with Rovers' second, Gerrard just jogging back and both centre halves nowhere to be seen. You can hardly blame Johnson for the goal.
As a team we defend atrociously and to put the blame for this on our only quality defender out of that starting 11 tonight is wrong.

unusg · « **Reply #1304 on:** January 5, 2011, 11:41:49 pm »

much as i dislike konchesky, johnson has to take a shit load of blame for the 1st and 3rd goals. indecisive for the first one and poor concentration and positioning for the 3rd. True skrtl should never have been beaten on the outside that close to the touchline but a switched on defender would have provided cover.

Turkmeister · « **Reply #1305 on:** January 5, 2011, 11:47:14 pm »

Woeful in defence tonight, but the only player that I could call a winger on the pitch for Liverpool. As many have said before, try him at right mid and stick kelly behind him.

ynwabuckeye · « **Reply #1306 on:** January 5, 2011, 11:50:05 pm »

Quote from: Turkmeister on January 5, 2011, 11:47:14 pm

Woeful in defence tonight, but the only player that I could call a winger on the pitch for Liverpool. As many have said before, try him at right mid and stick kelly behind him.

But....He's England's RB.

Spanish Al · « **Reply #1307 on:** January 5, 2011, 11:52:38 pm »

Do people genuinely believe hes shit at defending? Really? Its a fucking myth, just what sky and the media say just like every other piece of shite they spout! If you seriously believe he cant defend, watch the last 3 games again. On numerous occassions he made good tackles and important interentions. Dont just say hes shit at defending because a few pundits said he was at fault for a goal tonight.

Mad Men · « **Reply #1308 on:** January 5, 2011, 11:55:38 pm »

Topic title should actually read "Glen Johnson TELLS ROY HODGSON TO GET HIS ACT TOGETHER."

..Bruiser.. · « **Reply #1309 on:** January 5, 2011, 11:58:11 pm »

The back four as a whole are defending badly. That happened last year (still better than under Roy by far) and Insua and Johnson were scapegoats for the media and lazy pundits.

bigbear · « **Reply #1310 on:** January 6, 2011, 12:00:24 am »

Quote from: Rednyte on January 5, 2011, 11:13:18 pm

was to blame for 2 goals. awful defending.

What 2 goals ?

He was left 2 on one for the first one with both centre backs on the half way line and the left back following the runner to stop the offside. There was nothing he could do there but play offside.

I presume you meant the third goal too when Skrtel got ragged right in front of us. Johnson was covering him coming back inside but he went outside Skrtel who should have fouled him at least. Johnson was then on the stretch in the box and couldn't get a tackle in.

He was not the main culprit for either goal.

CHOPPER · « **Reply #1311 on:** January 6, 2011, 12:06:03 am »

We can slate individually (me probably more than most) but as a unit, I have gone from having concerns about them to be being left with the conclusion that they all must go (apart from the new/rezzie lads). You can argue all you like about tactics, but as a unit we can't even do the basics, that, is the most damning part of it all.

Mewtwo · « **Reply #1312 on:** January 6, 2011, 12:09:17 am »

Johnson's shit

Roger Federer · « **Reply #1313 on:** January 6, 2011, 12:09:28 am »

Quote from: bigbear on January 6, 2011, 12:00:24 am

What 2 goals ?

He was left 2 on one for the first one with both centre backs on the half way line and the left back following the runner to stop the offside. There was nothing he could do there but play offside.

I presume you meant the third goal too when Skrtel got ragged right in front of us. Johnson was covering him coming back inside but he went outside Skrtel who should have fouled him at least. Johnson was then on the stretch in the box and couldn't get a tackle in.

He was not the main culprit for either goal.

Agree with this. I think he could perhaps have been more alert on the third, but what was Skrtel up to? One of few who created something going forward aswell.

Breitner · « **Reply #1314 on:** January 6, 2011, 12:10:26 am »

Quote from: Spanish Al on January 5, 2011, 11:52:38 pm

Do people genuinely believe hes shit at defending? Really? Its a fucking myth, just what sky and the media say just like every other piece of shite they spout! If you seriously believe he cant defend, watch the last 3 games again. On numerous occassions he made good tackles and important interentions. Dont just say hes shit at defending because a few pundits said he was at fault for a goal tonight.

Big difference between tackling and being aware and knowing where to position yourself. I watch him week in week out and don't need Sky to form my views.

Scribble8 · « **Reply #1315 on:** January 6, 2011, 12:10:59 am »

Johnson is the last one to blame in our back four. And he wasn't to blame for 2 goals.

unusg · « **Reply #1316 on:** January 6, 2011, 12:11:15 am »

Quote from: CHOPPER on January 6, 2011, 12:06:03 am

You can argue all you like about tactics, but as a unit we can't even do the basics, that, is the most damning part of it all.

one reinforces the other when you are on a downward spiral. individual errors compounded by poor positioning resulting in goals conceded.

No Way José · « **Reply #1317 on:** January 6, 2011, 12:12:35 am »

Quote from: Mewtwo on January 6, 2011, 12:09:17 am

Johnson's shit

Thats right mate, have a go at the one defender we have who can actually move faster than an asthmatic ant with some heavy shopping.

RedRaj · « **Reply #1318 on:** January 6, 2011, 12:13:12 am »

Quote from: Spanish Al on January 5, 2011, 11:52:38 pm

Do people genuinely believe hes shit at defending? Really? Its a fucking myth, just what sky and the media say just like every other piece of shite they spout! If you seriously believe he cant defend, watch the last 3 games again. On numerous occassions he made good tackles and important interentions. Dont just say hes shit at defending because a few pundits said he was at fault for a goal tonight.

To say he's a shit defender is too simplistic. He has got a great recovery tackle in him BUT his positioning, concentration and effort lets his defending down big time.

CHOPPER · « **Reply #1319 on:** January 6, 2011, 12:14:48 am »

Quote from: No Way José on January 6, 2011, 12:12:35 am

Thats right mate, have a go at the one defender we have who can actually move faster than an asthmatic ant with some heavy shopping.

I liken them to a pissed snail, but ye, I think we are both on the same page regarding the mobility of our back 4.