Author Topic: Getting angry at the right people - just lock it (Read 216077 times)

GeeFJay · « **Reply #2280 on:** July 6, 2010, 03:47:57 am »

thanks shanks, any developments on it though? i'd like to have a pop from wednesday onwards with something based around the helpsaveliverpoolfc campaign including a pic and some choice wording? would be basic mind but something to start with at least.

RedSeattleite · « **Reply #2281 on:** July 6, 2010, 04:49:15 am »

Quote from: shanklyboy on July 6, 2010, 02:36:15 am

I like the idea of that mate but there would need to be more to it than just sitting there.
The 'stay behinds' that have been done in the past were maybe losing their impact due to the poor numbers attending.

My own preference has always been delayed entry into the ground. Again it needs numbers to get the impact, but if organised effectively it could work.
Even more impact if we could co-ordinate people sitting in selected areas of the ground so the empty seats aren't scattered all over the place.
The media would be forewarned and it could generate interest as it's something that has never been done before anywhere as far as I know.
The difficulty with that is we would have to do it without Union backing as they see H & S issues with large numbers being outside the ground.
I don't share those fears personally and believe it could work as a poor mans boycott.

Definitely agree that there would have to be more to do. Could continue with chants and banners and such. The apathy in our fan base did seem bountiful last season. I would hope that all of the good work being done by a lot of folks in this thread and the other "getting angry" topics have helped inform a lot of the fans that needed a good shaking to finally wake up and smell the odor the owners and our board have been letting off. Read a great example a page or two back, I believe where a young fan had no idea what was going on and someone led him to the well red mag for some basic info. It really shows that all this is getting through to people.

I wasn't there myself, being an oot who lives in the USA but I believe you lot when numbers like 6k are being quoted in attendance at the independence day rally. If we could get those kind of numbers to stay after it would do wonders in spreading the word. The cival rights movement here in the 50s-60s had sit in boycotts in restaurants and on buses and look at the impact it had.

We could get volunteers at the matches to handout flyers, stickers and booklets with information on/in them that can be easily understood by all. Fat scousers signature "£700,000k in interest per week, enough to pay 7 nandos a week" would have huge resonance to all fans or maybe "£100,000k a day, enough to pay your mortgage for 20 years." This could be used to convince fans to spread information or maybe themselves stay and fight for what is theirs to begin with.

I find it sad as a fan who lives in the united states and has only been to anfield once would be willing to get involved in these campaigns or whatever else is being done than the other 40k or so that fuck off after the match or the millions of fans all over the world. Not trying trying to lump anyone into that group who is actually doing something to save this club that has brought so many of us some of their best memories in life.

I myself will continue to do everything I can so I can tell my kids when I am older about Istanbul, Cardiff, Rafa, shanks, paisley, dalglish, gerrard, nando or any other future legends and trophies won or lost.

royhendo · « **Reply #2282 on:** July 6, 2010, 07:09:47 am »

Summary of progress to date

Help Save Liverpool FC
http://www.facebook.com/helpsaveliverpoolfc
27/05/2010 - 1,601
28/05/2010 - 2,029
***email campaign***
29/05/2010 - 3,146
30/05/2010 - 3,926
31/05/2010 - 4,419
01/06/2010 - 4,922
02/06/2010 - 5,294
03/06/2010 - 5,719
04/06/2010 - 6,515
05/06/2010 - 6,952
06/06/2010 - 7,164
07/06/2010 - 7,465
***Facebook viral campaign, email campaign***
08/06/2010 - 9,059
09/06/2010 - 11,012
10/06/2010 - 12,237
11/06/2010 - 12,897
12/06/2010 - 13,294
13/06/2010 - 13,596
14/06/2010 - 13,935
15/06/2010 - 14,205
16/06/2010 - 14,412
17/06/2010 - 14,718
18/06/2010 - 15,081
19/06/2010 - 15,297
20/06/2010 - 15,520
21/06/2010 - 15,719
22/06/2010 - 15,882
23/06/2010 - 16,016
24/06/2010 - 16,120
25/06/2010 - 16,219
26/06/2010 - 16,316
27/06/2010 - 16,390
28/06/2010 - 16,536
29/06/2010 - 16,663
30/06/2010 - 16,859
01/07/2010 - 17,091
02/07/2010 - 17,275
03/07/2010 - 17,463
04/07/2010 - 17,645
05/07/2010 - 17,865
06/07/2010 - 18,077

Twitter
http://twitter.com/saveliverpoolfc
27/05/2010 - 96
28/05/2010 - 504
***email campaign***
29/05/2010 - 613
30/05/2010 - 709
31/05/2010 - 739
01/06/2010 - 757
02/06/2010 - 783
03/06/2010 - 1,136
04/06/2010 - 1,251
05/06/2010 - 1,299
06/06/2010 - 1,320
07/06/2010 - 1,337
08/06/2010 - 1,366
09/06/2010 - 1,407
10/06/2010 - 1,426
11/06/2010 - 1,545
12/06/2010 - 1,571
13/06/2010 - 1,579
14/06/2010 - 1,599
15/06/2010 - Twitter over capacity - can't tell.
16/06/2010 - 1,631
17/06/2010 - 1,652
18/06/2010 - 1,718
19/06/2010 - 1.761
20/06/2010 - 1,776
21/06/2010 - 1,786
22/06/2010 - 1,793
23/06/2010 - 1,800
24/06/2010 - 1,806
25/06/2010 - 1,808
26/06/2010 - 1,832
27/06/2010 - 1,841
28/06/2010 - 1,845
29/06/2010 - 1,883
30/06/2010 - 1,954
01/07/2010 - 1,982
02/07/2010 - 2,007
03/07/2010 - 2,017
04/07/2010 - 2,033
05/07/2010 - 2,044
06/07/2010 - 2,053

royhendo · « **Reply #2283 on:** July 6, 2010, 07:13:29 am »

Quote from: shanklyboy on July 6, 2010, 02:26:36 am

I think the first one works better mate.
The tag line is excellent.
Can we actually get a copy of the blueprints though as that would just finish it off visually.

Yeah mate - it's folllowed by this one...

royhendo · « **Reply #2284 on:** July 6, 2010, 07:13:57 am »

That's just placeholder text mind.

RedSeattleite · « **Reply #2285 on:** July 6, 2010, 07:18:00 am »

Quote from: royhendo on July 6, 2010, 07:13:57 am

That's just placeholder text mind.

Was just about to bust out Google translate, thought i maybe landed in some alternate history while riding in the tardis.

royhendo · « **Reply #2286 on:** July 6, 2010, 08:29:53 am »

shanklyboy · « **Reply #2287 on:** July 6, 2010, 09:55:28 am »

Quote from: GeeFJay on July 6, 2010, 03:47:57 am

thanks shanks, any developments on it though? i'd like to have a pop from wednesday onwards with something based around the helpsaveliverpoolfc campaign including a pic and some choice wording? would be basic mind but something to start with at least.

Run with it mate. Let the creative juices flow.

That's the way to do it.

shanklyboy · « **Reply #2288 on:** July 6, 2010, 10:18:47 am »

Quote from: royhendo on July 6, 2010, 07:13:57 am

That's just placeholder text mind.

Christ.....it actually made sense to me.

Then again I remember when we all spoke it.

royhendo · « **Reply #2289 on:** July 6, 2010, 11:08:02 am »

hehey tremendous.

OK - another idea that's kicked around a while - I did a good hour on it on the train this morning.

Text ideas and tweaks gratefully received. It needs work.

vicgill · « **Reply #2290 on:** July 6, 2010, 04:24:14 pm »

Vulmea · « **Reply #2291 on:** July 6, 2010, 05:08:21 pm »

Quote from: royhendo on July 5, 2010, 05:18:21 pm

There will be mate, but this thread's beginning to run its course I think -

always killing off my favourite threads - us old fella's dont like change - its hard to cope with - you'll learn

royhendo · « **Reply #2292 on:** July 6, 2010, 05:23:50 pm »

Burn off the shaws and the fresh shoots come through in their place big man. I'm just following my farmer's instincts.

royhendo · « **Reply #2293 on:** July 6, 2010, 06:47:09 pm »

Saw a t-shirt earlier "Who would Jesus bomb?" with a picture of said bearded messiah with a missile in each hand.

I like the idea that we can poke fun at hteir morals like that. Can we rework that?

Who would Jesus do a leveraged buyout on?

Commie Bobbie · « **Reply #2294 on:** July 6, 2010, 07:14:49 pm »

Bump.

For fuck sake, get the fuck out of the "Guess who I saw in fucking Asda" thread and do something fucking useful.

royhendo · « **Reply #2295 on:** July 6, 2010, 07:23:37 pm »

This is an amazing watch really. It's from the HKS guy. £51m plus to reach this stage. They matched some colours to the surrounding area to create a palette, they did some 'site analysis', and they 'interpreted the traditional english stadium in a modern building' to try and get open corners like Archibald Leach might have. And they realised during the analysis and research and learning 'bout other cultures that there's a thing called a Kop which is like hte choir in a catholic church and "runs the show from the end zone".

That'll be £51m please.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/2dkc-nAclLg&amp;hl=en_GB&amp;fs=1" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/2dkc-nAclLg&amp;hl=en_GB&amp;fs=1</a>

shanklyboy · « **Reply #2296 on:** July 6, 2010, 07:26:49 pm »

Quote from: Commie Bobbie on July 6, 2010, 07:14:49 pm

Bump.

For fuck sake, get the fuck out of the "Guess who I saw in fucking Asda" thread and do something fucking useful.

Well said Bobby.....but err shouldn't that be in the "Guess who I saw in Asda " thread mate.

shanklyboy · « **Reply #2297 on:** July 6, 2010, 07:31:42 pm »

Quote from: royhendo on July 6, 2010, 06:47:09 pm

Saw a t-shirt earlier "Who would Jesus bomb?" with a picture of said bearded messiah with a missile in each hand.

I like the idea that we can poke fun at hteir morals like that. Can we rework that?

Who would Jesus do a leveraged buyout on?

I hear he leverage Mary Magdalene.
Then they met had a big kick off...something to do with the Crusades.
They moved to Paris for a bit.....then London and met some feller who wore undies with nails in.

That led to a bit of bother but apparently they were mates with Tom Hanks who sorted it with some Yanky soldier called Ryan.

You couldn't make the lifestyles of these celebs up.

shanklyboy · « **Reply #2298 on:** July 6, 2010, 07:34:05 pm »

Quote from: royhendo on July 6, 2010, 07:23:37 pm

This is an amazing watch really. It's from the HKS guy. £51m plus to reach this stage. They matched some colours to the surrounding area to create a palette, they did some 'site analysis', and they 'interpreted the traditional english stadium in a modern building' to try and get open corners like Archibald Leach might have. And they realised during the analysis and research and learning 'bout other cultures that there's a thing called a Kop which is like hte choir in a catholic church and "runs the show from the end zone".

That'll be £51m please.

Christ I forgot about that mate. Everyone should watch it.
If just for the value for money and hilarity factor.

royhendo · « **Reply #2299 on:** July 6, 2010, 08:23:01 pm »

Fucking amazing looking back on it. This from early summer 2007.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/newsid_6540000/newsid_6543100/6543111.stm?bw=nb&mp=rm#

royhendo · « **Reply #2300 on:** July 6, 2010, 08:25:12 pm »

Quote from: shanklyboy on July 6, 2010, 07:31:42 pm

I hear he leverage Mary Magdalene.
Then they met had a big kick off...something to do with the Crusades.
They moved to Paris for a bit.....then London and met some feller who wore undies with nails in.

That led to a bit of bother but apparently they were mates with Tom Hanks who sorted it with some Yanky soldier called Ryan.

You couldn't make the lifestyles of these celebs up.

royhendo · « **Reply #2301 on:** July 6, 2010, 09:25:27 pm »

The way it was going to look in 2007, so they said in late summer 2007.

ElSheak · « **Reply #2302 on:** July 7, 2010, 12:15:23 am »

Hello Roy.

Just having a little glance at the pages you've posted up so far. If I can make a few pointers without pissing all over your chips...

1. Much better using the three column approach as shorter lines are easier to read.
2. Not sure if the body font is in bold, but if not, another font with a thinner standard weight would be better.
3. I'd swerve using tinted backgrounds under the body copy as it makes it harder to read.
4. Try and pull out the first para with a bigger point size and colour.
5. Try and pull out punch sections of the body copy - similar to the above but a different colour / size / weight of font.
6. Might be worth redrawing a timeline and not quoting the site page as that's quite cluttered.

I know this seems like a list of gripes – yes I'm anal over these things, it's my job. BUT, just by doing a few of these simple 'tricks' you'll transform pages, make them easier to read and more engaging with the reader.

Which programme are you doing this in? If you answer Word, Publisher, Photoshop or Gimp then I really don't envy you one ickle, wickle bit.

If you want to se an example of the list above, just wheel me over a copy of a Word file with the text in and I'll mock up a quick example and fire it back. Alternatively...

just tell me to FUCK OFF.

royhendo · « **Reply #2303 on:** July 7, 2010, 05:46:39 am »

Help Save Liverpool FC
http://www.facebook.com/helpsaveliverpoolfc
27/05/2010 - 1,601
28/05/2010 - 2,029
***email campaign***
29/05/2010 - 3,146
30/05/2010 - 3,926
31/05/2010 - 4,419
01/06/2010 - 4,922
02/06/2010 - 5,294
03/06/2010 - 5,719
04/06/2010 - 6,515
05/06/2010 - 6,952
06/06/2010 - 7,164
07/06/2010 - 7,465
***Facebook viral campaign, email campaign***
08/06/2010 - 9,059
09/06/2010 - 11,012
10/06/2010 - 12,237
11/06/2010 - 12,897
12/06/2010 - 13,294
13/06/2010 - 13,596
14/06/2010 - 13,935
15/06/2010 - 14,205
16/06/2010 - 14,412
17/06/2010 - 14,718
18/06/2010 - 15,081
19/06/2010 - 15,297
20/06/2010 - 15,520
21/06/2010 - 15,719
22/06/2010 - 15,882
23/06/2010 - 16,016
24/06/2010 - 16,120
25/06/2010 - 16,219
26/06/2010 - 16,316
27/06/2010 - 16,390
28/06/2010 - 16,536
29/06/2010 - 16,663
30/06/2010 - 16,859
01/07/2010 - 17,091
02/07/2010 - 17,275
03/07/2010 - 17,463
04/07/2010 - 17,645
05/07/2010 - 17,865
06/07/2010 - 18,077
07/07/2010 - 18,258

Twitter
http://twitter.com/saveliverpoolfc
27/05/2010 - 96
28/05/2010 - 504
***email campaign***
29/05/2010 - 613
30/05/2010 - 709
31/05/2010 - 739
01/06/2010 - 757
02/06/2010 - 783
03/06/2010 - 1,136
04/06/2010 - 1,251
05/06/2010 - 1,299
06/06/2010 - 1,320
07/06/2010 - 1,337
08/06/2010 - 1,366
09/06/2010 - 1,407
10/06/2010 - 1,426
11/06/2010 - 1,545
12/06/2010 - 1,571
13/06/2010 - 1,579
14/06/2010 - 1,599
15/06/2010 - Twitter over capacity - can't tell.
16/06/2010 - 1,631
17/06/2010 - 1,652
18/06/2010 - 1,718
19/06/2010 - 1.761
20/06/2010 - 1,776
21/06/2010 - 1,786
22/06/2010 - 1,793
23/06/2010 - 1,800
24/06/2010 - 1,806
25/06/2010 - 1,808
26/06/2010 - 1,832
27/06/2010 - 1,841
28/06/2010 - 1,845
29/06/2010 - 1,883
30/06/2010 - 1,954
01/07/2010 - 1,982
02/07/2010 - 2,007
03/07/2010 - 2,017
04/07/2010 - 2,033
05/07/2010 - 2,044
06/07/2010 - 2,053
07/07/2010 - 2,061

royhendo · « **Reply #2304 on:** July 7, 2010, 05:52:52 am »

Quote from: ElSheak on July 7, 2010, 12:15:23 am

Hello Roy.

Just having a little glance at the pages you've posted up so far. If I can make a few pointers without pissing all over your chips...

1. Much better using the three column approach as shorter lines are easier to read.
2. Not sure if the body font is in bold, but if not, another font with a thinner standard weight would be better.
3. I'd swerve using tinted backgrounds under the body copy as it makes it harder to read.
4. Try and pull out the first para with a bigger point size and colour.
5. Try and pull out punch sections of the body copy - similar to the above but a different colour / size / weight of font.
6. Might be worth redrawing a timeline and not quoting the site page as that's quite cluttered.

I know this seems like a list of gripes – yes I'm anal over these things, it's my job. BUT, just by doing a few of these simple 'tricks' you'll transform pages, make them easier to read and more engaging with the reader.

Which programme are you doing this in? If you answer Word, Publisher, Photoshop or Gimp then I really don't envy you one ickle, wickle bit.

If you want to se an example of the list above, just wheel me over a copy of a Word file with the text in and I'll mock up a quick example and fire it back. Alternatively...

just tell me to FUCK OFF.

No mate - this is great feedback, thanks!

Another body font with a thinner standard weight - I'm new to this so any suggestions are welcome.

I'm also not sure on point 4 - just need more detail to understand really.

'punch sections' - again, it's a new term to me.

the point on the LFC.tv timeline page image is to highlight that it's still there by the way - the timeline's gonna be clarified in full as I'm doing a piece on the stadium shenanigans in full. for me, the fact it's published with the optimitic tone it has says a lot.

It's not anal at all - it's superb feedback and I need as much of it as Ican get.

InDesign mate - and don't fuck off - more please. If the first issue's not perfect, then no problem.

The tinted backgrounds - this is the thing - there are mixed feelings on that one. In the case above, I think it's possibly down to the 'busy' nature of the blueprint image. But I'll play with it.

Very useful feedback indeed.

vicgill · « **Reply #2305 on:** July 7, 2010, 02:33:12 pm »

The 5th Benitle · « **Reply #2306 on:** July 7, 2010, 04:19:21 pm »

Quote from: vicgill on July 7, 2010, 02:33:12 pm

Bump

Roy - I'm getting angrier. Off to the SOS London meet tomorrow night and I have next week off work with fuck all planned so am happy to help with anything at all that needs time spent on it.

royhendo · « **Reply #2307 on:** July 7, 2010, 05:01:50 pm »

Cheers dudes - I honestly think this thread's done its job now though - no sweat if it goes down the boards cos there's so much going on beyond this now, we could lock it.

The 5th Benitle · « **Reply #2308 on:** July 7, 2010, 05:20:02 pm »

Quote from: royhendo on July 7, 2010, 05:01:50 pm

Cheers dudes - I honestly think this thread's done its job now though - no sweat if it goes down the boards cos there's so much going on beyond this now, we could lock it.

There is a lot going on mate, and frankly I think you've been a big part of that. So well bloody done

GeeFJay · « **Reply #2309 on:** July 7, 2010, 06:50:15 pm »

Quote from: royhendo on July 7, 2010, 05:01:50 pm

no sweat if it goes down the boards cos there's so much going on beyond this now, we could lock it.

no need for a locking of it boss, its nice to be able to pop back when something comes up thats worth while

Walk on, walk on · « **Reply #2310 on:** July 7, 2010, 06:53:41 pm »

Hey guys, I notice that many people are repeating the rumours of the club being sold on July 15th, and consequently deter others from taking any action. If you see any posts like that, you may want to challenge the validity of those rumours so that people do not get taken in.

royhendo · « **Reply #2311 on:** July 7, 2010, 07:06:55 pm »

On the Facebook site? People will learn soon enough but yeah, we've been trying to.

royhendo · « **Reply #2312 on:** July 7, 2010, 07:07:50 pm »

All I mean is that we're all involved elsewhere so it's inevitable it'll slip down the boards - no worries if so.

alex. · « **Reply #2313 on:** July 7, 2010, 07:11:45 pm »

Don't lock it yet, I have a video to post later.

Commie Bobbie · « **Reply #2314 on:** July 7, 2010, 07:11:50 pm »

Quote from: shanklyboy on July 6, 2010, 07:26:49 pm

Well said Bobby.....but err shouldn't that be in the "Guess who I saw in Asda " thread mate.

Probably!

I was talking to a Chelsea fan today, and he's fucking more clued up on the situation that we find ourselves in than some of the masses. It's fucking scary beyond belief.

I always believed that as a club, we had the biggest activist base of any club, certainly in Britain, and probably up there in the world - not in the same way as the Ultras, the Socios and the Barra Bravas in Argentina, but still we can organise ourselves if needs be.

But fuck me, some of the people on here, are fucking clueless. It seems that no matter what the likes of Royhendo, FS, Weebrolan and others suggest, there is a sizable and determined minority, who just will not get their fucking heads out of the fucking sand.

Get yourselves in some of these threads. Join the SOS, it's £10. That's three rather expensive pints of piss where I come from.

Write letters to your MP. Start asking questions. Make them accountable to you!

This is your club, my club, OUR club. It has given us some of the best nights of our lives.

Time to give back, what the club has given us. Some people have gone to extraordinary lengths to do that already including those named previously in my post. It is time for everyone else to do likewise.

What you decide to do, could, just could make the difference.

royhendo · « **Reply #2315 on:** July 7, 2010, 07:18:10 pm »

It'll turn the minute it becomes fashionable to be activist again mate - that's coming.

alex. · « **Reply #2316 on:** July 7, 2010, 08:49:55 pm »

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/JU5Ku5xAU9w" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/JU5Ku5xAU9w</a>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JU5Ku5xAU9w

First one to spot the spelling error gets a prize

Make sure you watch it in 720p for better quality

24/7 · « **Reply #2317 on:** July 7, 2010, 09:02:17 pm »

Quote from: alex. on July 7, 2010, 08:49:55 pm

First one to spot the spelling error gets a prize

"decit"

alex. · « **Reply #2318 on:** July 7, 2010, 09:05:34 pm »

Quote from: 24/7 on July 7, 2010, 09:02:17 pm

"decit"

I would have changed it but it would have took another hour to process the video again.

24/7 · « **Reply #2319 on:** July 7, 2010, 09:07:07 pm »

Quote from: alex. on July 7, 2010, 09:05:34 pm

I would have changed it but it would have took another hour to process the video again.

No worries - great video that - ta! Enjoyed watching. Will that go on the forthcoming umbrella/spalsh site?