Author Topic: The Irish Politics Thread. (Read 589540 times)

toomanysteves · « **Reply #40 on:** February 6, 2010, 09:51:32 pm »

Quote from: Sarge on February 5, 2010, 06:22:59 pm

It will Terry and one thing that i've always wondered about if people from the 6 counties could vote in a 32 election would SF & the DUP still control the voting powerbase that they have. We have gone through a financial disater and the ruling Party FF go up in the polls, mindblowing or is it the fact that the coalition of FG/Lab just aint cutting it. Interesting indeed.

FF are trying to set up in the six counties.i think their problem is they don't know who to court. They are looking at the dead in the water SDLP but then they are exactly that, dead in the water. there is some movement towards courting the SF voters who only vote for them because they aren't the dead in the water SDLP but thate the fact that they are voting for sinn fein. but the movement is definately on and would be great for NI politics if FF and even the conservatives from UK moved in to break up the usual faces.. By the way did i mention that the SDLP are dead in the water?

toomanysteves · « **Reply #41 on:** February 6, 2010, 09:55:55 pm »

Quote from: Billy The Kid. on February 5, 2010, 07:18:23 pm

The only one in Dail Eireann who speaks any sense is Aurthur Morgan.

Quote from: Sarge on February 5, 2010, 08:07:31 pm

A good bloke him.

???WTF. Sarge the comments here suggest you favour the PDs, yet you are calling a Shinner a good bloke. What would McDowell says god bless us all? Anyway, all Shinners of a vintage are there for a reason and a sordid past. And for that reason I am out.

weebroalan · « **Reply #42 on:** February 6, 2010, 10:04:53 pm »

Quote from: toomanysteves on February 6, 2010, 09:51:32 pm

FF are trying to set up in the six counties.i think their problem is they don't know who to court. They are looking at the dead in the water SDLP but then they are exactly that, dead in the water. there is some movement towards courting the SF voters who only vote for them because they aren't the dead in the water SDLP but thate the fact that they are voting for sinn fein. but the movement is definately on and would be great for NI politics if FF and even the conservatives from UK moved in to break up the usual faces.. By the way did i mention that the SDLP are dead in the water?

Things definately need a shake up in the north. The UUP are every bit as dead in the water as the SDLP.

The Conservatives won't be setting up in NI as they have some agreement with the UUP to work together so thats a no go.

But the DUP and SF have got it far too easy and they have no real challengers. No easy solution to that one and the Alliance are seen as 'weak' by all and sundry.

Sarge · « **Reply #43 on:** February 7, 2010, 06:59:57 pm »

Quote from: toomanysteves on February 6, 2010, 09:55:55 pm

???WTF. Sarge the comments here suggest you favour the PDs, yet you are calling a Shinner a good bloke. What would McDowell says god bless us all? Anyway, all Shinners of a vintage are there for a reason and a sordid past. And for that reason I am out.

Me a fucking PD!!! Best post ever on RAWK.

rednich85 · « **Reply #44 on:** February 7, 2010, 07:22:40 pm »

Sarge, no option for 'dont vote'?

Thats the option I'd select. I, like most lads my age, I know, dont vote.

We grew up in Nationalist/Republican areas of Derry. Growing up, I was interested in politics, enjoyed politics. I was interested in both sides of the argumument. I was open minded......despite my upbringing and all the influences that a teenage lad faces growing up in republican areas.

There is now real 'middle ground' in NI politics. No realistic alternative. Your either one side or the other. That fucks me off. Especially because the 'side' I'm expected to lean towards (Sinn Fein/SDLP) do nothing to inspire me to vote.

When I was 16, after a few run ins with our community defenders (Sinn Fein/PIRA/Vigilantes), out of spite, I promised myself I would vote Womens Coalition or some other nonsensical party.

Whilst I still keep a keen eye on our local politics and politics of the north, there has not been a party or a cause that I have felt the need to vote for.

When I talk to my da/ma, they grew up at a time where their vote was a big deal. "People died so you could vote" almost guilt tripping me into it.

The only thing I like about the elections are the memories they bring back. Making crate loads of petrol bombs and paint bombs. Good times. Idiotic now I think about it, especially how, with a bit of maturity my views on the world have changed.

conman · « **Reply #45 on:** February 7, 2010, 07:33:03 pm »

red, its painfully similar to an extent in the south...

you are expected to vote sinn fein/sdlp, and so a huge amount of people vote "republican" because thats what they do...
in the south here, the parties are 1 step short of football teams, they have their supporters, they vote for one party because thats what the do. nothing to do with which is the better side, or who has the best potential to bring forth a better society / prosperity..

I know a lot of people (generally plus 50) that vote FF only, have done all their lives, and will continue to do so..

the_prodigal_s0n · « **Reply #46 on:** February 7, 2010, 07:48:59 pm »

Rednich85, I'm not trying to be smart (and I don't know much about them), but what about the Alliance Party? Aren't they a relatively centrist group, or is the problem that their actual politics is hopeless?

People are entitled not to vote, if that is how they wish, but I think that there's always an option. I'm elgible to vote in USA too, and despite not feeling close to either party's ideologies in the last election, I just voted for one of the smaller candidated. I suppose many would consider this throwing a vote away, but I feel differently.

Sarge · « **Reply #47 on:** February 7, 2010, 07:50:27 pm »

Fucking hell not 1 Vote for Enda

rednich85 · « **Reply #48 on:** February 7, 2010, 07:52:18 pm »

Quote from: the_prodigal_s0n on February 7, 2010, 07:48:59 pm

Rednich85, I'm not trying to be smart (and I don't know much about them), but what about the Alliance Party? Aren't they a relatively centrist group, or is the problem that their actual politics is hopeless?

Pretty much hopless.

Thats why I said no 'realistic' alternative mate. Its shit all round.

Terry de Niro · « **Reply #49 on:** February 7, 2010, 09:02:10 pm »

I've only just realised that you have a ministry for defense.
What does he do then?

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/world-leaders-1/world-leaders-i/ireland.html

Sarge · « **Reply #50 on:** February 7, 2010, 09:07:08 pm »

Quote from: Terry De Niro on February 7, 2010, 09:02:10 pm

I've only just realised that you have a ministry for defense.
What does he do then?

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/world-leaders-1/world-leaders-i/ireland.html

Oh Terry, Willie 'O Dea is a snide horrible little man. The Minister for Defence mostly over years gone by he/she was looking out for 'The Ra' but now fuck all really. Peace Keeping in Bosnia and shit like that.

KERRYKOP · « **Reply #51 on:** February 7, 2010, 09:07:46 pm »

Quote from: Terry De Niro on February 7, 2010, 09:02:10 pm

I've only just realised that you have a ministry for defense.
What does he do then?

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/world-leaders-1/world-leaders-i/ireland.html

He does this

Sarge · « **Reply #52 on:** February 7, 2010, 09:13:17 pm »

Was about to post that pic. Terry he posed for that picture in the week where an innocent bouncer was gunned down in Limerick by gangland figures. Terry he is the MP for Limerick.

Sarge · « **Reply #53 on:** February 7, 2010, 09:15:02 pm »

On a side note Margeret Richie is the new Leader of The Stoop Down Low Party.

the_prodigal_s0n · « **Reply #54 on:** February 7, 2010, 09:16:52 pm »

Quote from: Sarge on February 7, 2010, 09:13:17 pm

Was about to post that pic. Terry he posed for that picture in the week where an innocent bouncer was gunned down in Limerick by gangland figures. Terry he is the MP for Limerick.

I didn't know that. I was about to post how disgusting that was, but then thought better of it. He'd have been waiting forever had he waited for there not to be a gangland killing in Limerick to take that pose.

iSmiff · « **Reply #55 on:** February 7, 2010, 09:28:43 pm »

i'd like FF to run europe so the euro could get devalued

Terry de Niro · « **Reply #56 on:** February 7, 2010, 09:59:12 pm »

Quote from: Sarge on February 7, 2010, 09:07:08 pm

Oh Terry, Willie 'O Dea is a snide horrible little man. The Minister for Defence mostly over years gone by he/she was looking out for 'The Ra' but now fuck all really. Peace Keeping in Bosnia and shit like that.

Quote from: KERRYKOP on February 7, 2010, 09:07:46 pm

He does this

Quote from: Sarge on February 7, 2010, 09:13:17 pm

Was about to post that pic. Terry he posed for that picture in the week where an innocent bouncer was gunned down in Limerick by gangland figures. Terry he is the MP for Limerick.

So, he's a c*nt then?

Sarge · « **Reply #57 on:** February 7, 2010, 10:02:07 pm »

Quote from: Terry De Niro on February 7, 2010, 09:59:12 pm

So, he's a c*nt then?

In a nutshell, yes.

MBL? · « **Reply #58 on:** February 7, 2010, 10:03:35 pm »

At least his way of protecting the country isn't agreeing to attack country's over 2,000 miles away.

Still a twat though.

Terry de Niro · « **Reply #59 on:** February 7, 2010, 10:10:19 pm »

Quote from: Tom Hicks' Lovechild on February 7, 2010, 10:03:35 pm

At least his way of protecting the country isn't agreeing to attack country's over 2,000 miles away.

Just as well, your lot would have a job taking over our local bingo hall.

Sarge · « **Reply #60 on:** February 7, 2010, 10:12:34 pm »

Quote from: Terry De Niro on February 7, 2010, 10:10:19 pm

Just as well, your lot would have a job taking over our local bingo hall.

Fuck that Free State lot we will get the Boys to sort that

Sarge · « **Reply #61 on:** February 8, 2010, 01:50:42 pm »

George Lee steps down.

FG in turmoil.

the_prodigal_s0n · « **Reply #62 on:** February 8, 2010, 01:58:01 pm »

Quote from: Sarge on February 8, 2010, 01:50:42 pm

George Lee steps down. FG in turmoil.

Hopefully they don't see this thread. They'll really be in trouble then. The resignation of Enda will only be the beginning.

hansen6 · « **Reply #63 on:** February 8, 2010, 01:58:45 pm »

Quote from: Terry De Niro on February 7, 2010, 10:10:19 pm

Just as well, your lot would have a job taking over our local bingo hall.

Why?, I thought the taliban would've stayed out of gambling establishments?

Sarge · « **Reply #64 on:** February 8, 2010, 01:59:57 pm »

Quote from: the_prodigal_s0n on February 8, 2010, 01:58:01 pm

Hopefully they don't see this thread. They'll really be in trouble then. The resignation of Enda will only be the beginning.

Oh so true. But very interesting that they have not got 1 vote here, very odd.

conman · « **Reply #65 on:** February 8, 2010, 02:02:00 pm »

Quote from: Sarge on February 8, 2010, 01:59:57 pm

Oh so true. But very interesting that they have not got 1 vote here, very odd.

i think kenny as figurehead would be the reason..

George lee as a leader of it would shake some heads im sure.
at least he sounds sensible.

Sarge · « **Reply #66 on:** February 8, 2010, 02:05:27 pm »

Quote from: conman on February 8, 2010, 02:02:00 pm

i think kenny as figurehead would be the reason..

George lee as a leader of it would shake some heads im sure.
at least he sounds sensible.

Yes Kenny is just a fucking boring robot, aweful to listen too.

conman · « **Reply #67 on:** February 8, 2010, 02:08:00 pm »

Quote from: Sarge on February 8, 2010, 02:05:27 pm

Yes Kenny is just a fucking boring robot, aweful to listen too.

all he does is bicker, never inspires confidence.
but jesus, that monotone robo woman in labour (not that labour) is shockingly boring.

Sarge · « **Reply #68 on:** February 8, 2010, 02:09:44 pm »

Quote from: conman on February 8, 2010, 02:08:00 pm

all he does is bicker, never inspires confidence.
but jesus, that monotone robo woman in labour (not that labour) is shockingly boring.

Good old Joan Burton. Murder to listen too. I remember i had to sit through a debate in Leinster House and she spoke for 15 minutes, felt like two weeks!!!!

conman · « **Reply #69 on:** February 8, 2010, 02:12:54 pm »

Quote from: Sarge on February 8, 2010, 02:09:44 pm

Good old Joan Burton. Murder to listen too. I remember i had to sit through a debate in Leinster House and she spoke for 15 minutes, felt like two weeks!!!!

ive never been in the place..