Topic: S.O.S - "It's not a badge, it's a family crest. Nothing is impossible."

[4pool]

"All the money from merchandise sold here will go to the club and will help build a team for the future."

Yes because we're that fucking stupid eh Tom

Well to clarify...anything bought at the club shop or online directly from the club----the club maximizes it's profits and that goes directly to the club.

If you buy "officially licensed" merchandize at a different retailer---that retailer gets a cut of the deal and the club does not make as much profit. So less goes directly to the club.

If you buy unofficial merchandize--the club gets nothing.

[jaymc]

the most effective protest would be to stop going the match. Whats the point chanting about the c*nt, but still giving him money and filling the ground whilst doing so. If hes such a thick skinned buisness man he wont be arsed that a few hundred are calling him a c*nt as long as hes making money.
However this would be the hardest thing for us to give up, were like addicts looking for the next fix whether were 5, 15 or 50 game a season people. Just think it would be the most effective form of protest.

[andylfc]

was in town today and to be honest i dnt think the boycott of the new shirts working. dnt think ive ever seen so many liverpool shirts in town before

[M(oaning) B(ecomes) E(mbarrassing)]

Great to see the development. But I wont spend a penny there till the Yanks fuck off.......

I fail to see how you withholding your urine is going to help matters in any way, young man. 

[rodderzzz]

Even if all the match going fans may boycott the shop, I think the shop will do still a good trade regardless to be honest.

Mate, there were loads of people buying stuff in there....the boycott will only put i tiny dent in pockets.

[willkinny88]

was in town today and to be honest i dnt think the boycott of the new shirts working. dnt think ive ever seen so many liverpool shirts in town before

just watched the news and every kid had da new kit on and if they didnt they had liverpool bags. just need to stick to r guns and carry on with boycott (the ones who doing it like)

[Shanklygates]

Saw the pictures on .tv. Will only be better if they put more staff on. Not been to any of shops for about two years now but whenever I did there was always one till open and a massive queue (in either branch).

For those that went, just one little query? Do you have to go down tha spiral staircase?? Looks like there is an escalator up but no other way down? Bloody hate those things! (Very hard for older people too and those with prams, and bound to get congested.) Have we got for design over practicalities here?

[Fowler23]

I can see it from both sides now, to be honest i have never thought this boycott would achieve much. It was on SPN earlier today that LFC's annual merchandise profit is £48 Million. What are a couple of thousand (at very most) going to achieve by not buying the kit. I've got a 5 year old who adores Torres and won't stop asking why i won't buy the kit for him, i'm going to buy him the spain kit with Torres' name on, but although i'm for the protest i just don't see it doing a thing there are so many kits in town and surrounding areas i think its only RAWK that knows about it. My uncle just bought the kit for his lad With Gerrard on the back and all the badges, when i told him of the boycott he just laughed, said he'd never heard of it and thought it was daft, and he's a cab driver who usually knows everything...

[Jutty]

Won't be buying anything until the yank c*nts fuck right off.

[Chindits]

Whats the point having the biggest store in Europe if they won't be any fuckin stock in it.

[Shanklygates]

My thoughts exactly!

[Djibriliant]

No harm in people having a look

[smig]

I went today at about 3. Place was absolutely heaving! Bought the new shirt but there's some excellent merchandise in there, a lot more than the Williamson Square store had to offer. Some really top quality facilities in there as well. to be honest if that is the biggest club store in europe then I'm amazed, surely Real or Barca have a bigger one.

I understand why people are all for boycotting the merchandise but it WILL NOT affect Hicks one bit, as much as I'd love to see him out. Protesting in the manner we did for the duration and in the aftermath of the Villa and Sunderland games respectively is more likely to have an impact on the ownership situation, but chosing to not buy the new shirt is only going to see the club lose out on extra sales in reality. Hicks will not care one bit if a few hundred fans choose not to buy the shirt so by boycotting it, I just believe it comes across as senseless and petulent. I think there are better ways of getting our point across instead of coming across as childish by refusing to buy anything from the store.

[manchater]

been in the barca store, was fucking astonished to see manc, Chelsea and arsenal shirts on sale in there as well, also a smattering of Celtic shirts.

What the fuck is all that about?

[Kwaideng]

The only time I have ever worn a football shirt is when I have been playing football. What the fuck a grown man thinks he is saying about himself wearing a replica shirt with a players name on the back I do not know. Still ....have to admit it is a fucking cracking earner (i.e. business model).

[redprodigal]

I went today at about 3. Place was absolutely heaving! Bought the new shirt but there's some excellent merchandise in there, a lot more than the Williamson Square store had to offer. Some really top quality facilities in there as well. to be honest if that is the biggest club store in europe then I'm amazed, surely Real or Barca have a bigger one.

I understand why people are all for boycotting the merchandise but it WILL NOT affect Hicks one bit, as much as I'd love to see him out. Protesting in the manner we did for the duration and in the aftermath of the Villa and Sunderland games respectively is more likely to have an impact on the ownership situation, but chosing to not buy the new shirt is only going to see the club lose out on extra sales in reality. Hicks will not care one bit if a few hundred fans choose not to buy the shirt so by boycotting it, I just believe it comes across as senseless and petulent. I think there are better ways of getting our point across instead of coming across as childish by refusing to buy anything from the store.

Senseless and petulant and childish eh? If you don't agree, fine, but no need to belittle other's efforts pal, and it's more than a few hundred.

[Life]

Seeing as people on here are saying it's senseless, stupid, unthinking (and worse) not to even sign the petition - I think it's valid for someone to have the balls to come on here and admit he's bought something and say he thinks its a senseless, petulant and childish boycott.

[LiverBirdKop]

was parry entertaining the kids

Poor kids. Scarred for life.

[redprodigal]

Seeing as people on here are saying it's senseless, stupid, unthinking (and worse) not to even sign the petition - I think it's valid for someone to have the balls to come on here and admit he's bought something and say he thinks its a senseless, petulant and childish boycott.

Can't agree, it may be incorrect in many people's eyes, but petulant and childish, not. Some fans are trying to make a point and believe me, it is hurting those fans, in most cases having to say no to kids as well as themselves. So childish and petulant isn't a very good description imo.

[Cochise]

Seeing as people on here are saying it's senseless, stupid, unthinking (and worse) not to even sign the petition - I think it's valid for someone to have the balls to come on here and admit he's bought something and say he thinks its a senseless, petulant and childish boycott.

OK. I AM going to buy my daughter & son the new kit. I honestly don't think a lot of people will boycott buying club merchandise, and if anyone says I'm not a real fan all I can say is Fuck Off.

Oh, and if these people who are boycotting the club merchandise have a season ticket will they renew it because if they do they are a hypocrites.

[Fat Scouser]

They promised us a stadium they got a shop for themselves... sort of shows where their priorities lay.

Not to worry I'm sure there's some Hicks' appologists who can explain to us how good it is for us and the club.

[Fat Scouser]

I'm oprganising a new demonstration we can all get involved in.
I'm going to build a fence outside the new shop and we can all sit on it twiddling our thumbs.

[redprodigal]

OK. I AM going to buy my daughter & son the new kit. I honestly don't think a lot of people will boycott buying club merchandise, and if anyone says I'm not a real fan all I can say is Fuck Off.

Oh, and if these people who are boycotting the club merchandise have a season ticket will they renew it because if they do they are a hypocrites.

No they aren't, they love the club and the players. They will still support the team every week, it's the owners they are trying to get at by making a point. If you think it's a shite idea and you want to buy your kids the kit then fine, but it's stupid to say fans are being hypocrites.

[stewy17]

you can see his point though, its a selective boycott.

Your argument for keeping the season tickets is to support the club, and i'm for most kids and adults who have the kits that their way of showing their support.

Personally I probably won't be buying the shirt until they leave, but thats because I don't want to give them my money, and its nothing to do with this collective boycott, thats my decision.

Try and remember what it was like to get the new kit when you were a kid, why should people punish their kids because 2 dickheads own our club?

and the shop ain't much really either...

[kopite789]

People can say the boycott is will not make a difference but if even 2,000 people decide not buy the three shirts that are out this summer then thats £240,000 not spent on the shirts. As individuals we cant't make a difference but collective we can.

When i tell people down south that i wont buy the sun they laugh and say hows your 30p gonna make any difference to the scum. In truth it helps to cost them millions each year. Thats just an example how we can all make the difference if we work together. 

[Cochise]

No they aren't, they love the club and the players. They will still support the team every week, it's the owners they are trying to get at by making a point. If you think it's a shite idea and you want to buy your kids the kit then fine, but it's stupid to say fans are being hypocrites.

I didn't say it was a shite idea I said I don't think it'll take off.

[Life]

I can see why people think it's hypocritical - I do a bit myself.

People buy the kit to support the team.
People go the game to support the team.

People are boycotting the merchandise to make a point to the owners.
People aren't willing to boycott the game to make a point to the owners.

You can't really say you won't give them money here, but you will there without being to some degree hypocritical.


I've been into this before - nothing (imo) will make a difference to Hicks but a substantial portion of empty seats in the ground - but I do understand why people aren't willing to go that far.

[Lush is the best medicine...]

Oh, and if these people who are boycotting the club merchandise have a season ticket will they renew it because if they do they are a hypocrites.

If they don't renew their ST then someone else will happily take it, therefore the club does not lose any money.
If they don't buy any official club products then this will impact the club's finance, as another person will not buy those products if the original person does not.

[Bobber]

Went in about half 2, dont think its much bigger than barcas.

[redprodigal]

I didn't say it was a shite idea I said I don't think it'll take off.

Fair enough, but I still don't think that fans not buying the merchandise but still going to watch are being hypocrites. I understand that it's not easy refusing to buy stuff. I hate the fact that it has come to this and it may well not make the tiniest bit of a difference, but many of us just feel hopeless by not doing anything at all. To be honest we all want the same outcome, our club to be on a level playing field with the top 2, it's just that we've all got different opinions of how to achieve it.

[Tom-D]

I can see why people think it's hypocritical - I do a bit myself.

People buy the kit to support the team.
People go the game to support the team.

People are boycotting the merchandise to make a point to the owners.
People aren't willing to boycott the game to make a point to the owners.

You can't really say you won't give them money here, but you will there without being to some degree hypocritical.


I've been into this before - nothing (imo) will make a difference to Hicks but a substantial portion of empty seats in the ground - but I do understand why people aren't willing to go that far.

By wearing the shirt isn't supporting the team its just like saying the people who go the match in there Barcelona shirts means they support Barcelona you support your team at the match which is why no ones boycotting matches.

[stewy17]

By wearing the shirt isn't supporting the team its just like saying the people who go the match in there Barcelona shirts means they support Barcelona you support your team at the match which is why no ones boycotting matches.

A) surely only a dickhead would wear another clubs shirt to a liverpool game.

B) of course its a way of supporting your team, especially for kids.

[ttnbd]

I can see it from both sides now, to be honest i have never thought this boycott would achieve much. It was on SPN earlier today that LFC's annual merchandise profit is £48 Million.

If the club made that much profit from merchandise then we wouldn't be worrying about whether the club could afford the interest payments on the purchase loan.

[Life]

So it's revenue, not profit then Tim?

[jooneyisdagod]

I am completely behind this.  We've got to hit H&G in every way possible and merchandise is one of the most visible platforms to do it in.

As for 50,000 people in Asia buying the shirts, I think SOS could try and reach out to them through the many forums they use.  I'm sure they will also join in with the protest if only they are told that this is happening.

I am trying to do my bit by letting people around me know.  I'm all for this boycott really.  Good move SOS.

[Tom-D]

A) surely only a dickhead would wear another clubs shirt to a liverpool game.

B) of course its a way of supporting your team, especially for kids.

So your saying a kid wearing a shirt is supporting the team is that a joke? can you just explain how it is.and yes i have seen many people wearing different clubs shirts at the match like barcelona and real madrid and a few atletico recently.

[Red_in_Holland]

By wearing the shirt isn't supporting the team its just like saying the people who go the match in there Barcelona shirts means they support Barcelona you support your team at the match which is why no ones boycotting matches.

Hick's every statement on how he make a success of sports franchises is exactly that.

Fan affinity, brand loyalty.

As long as his suits are telling him there are enough bums on seats, that enough is being sold anyway of merchandise.

HE will not give a fuck.. end of.

Supporting our team, is what he relies on.  Getting thirsty and hungry at matches and HAVING to buy his merchandise.

Your kids WILL want the shirts, your kids WILL get hungry and thirsty at matches.   He is counting on that.

He is counting on the millions of people worldwide loving LFC.   He KNOWS he will get paid off.

He knows most scousers would NEVER give up their seasie.. they are too fkin hard to come by, and a lot have been in families for generations.

G+H knew what they were doing, they still do.. call em c*nts if you wanna.  but don't make the mistake they are stupid or don't have business smarts, coz they have a whole payroll of smart c*nts that know how to get the most out of a club.

They are c*nts, just not stupid c*nts.

RiH

[stewy17]

So your saying a kid wearing a shirt is supporting the team is that a joke? can you just explain how it is.

because thats their way of supporting their team, it just is, non uniform day in school, football training, going the fucking kwikkie in it, a lot of kids wear a liverpool shirt because its a fucking liverpool shirt, not because they like it, not for fashion, because they love the club.

you can't just dismiss it because it doesn't suit your argument or doesn't adhere to what you believe in.

Can you put forward an argument for why its not?

[Dick Emery]

I'll be boycotting the shop for sure. But that's cos I haven't bought any clobber since the post-Euro Cup shirt with the embroided badge in 1984.

However, telling my kids that they can't have the new kit is a total non-starter. They all got the full kit the day it came out, like they do with every kit home or away. To them its all about Liverpool Football Club....they're not interested who owns the club and asking them to boycott the gear would be totally pointless.

[Tom-D]

because thats their way of supporting their team, it just is, non uniform day in school, football training, going the fucking kwikkie in it, a lot of kids wear a liverpool shirt because its a fucking liverpool shirt, not because they like it, not for fashion, because they love the club.

you can't just dismiss it because it doesn't suit your argument or doesn't adhere to what you believe in.

Can you put forward an argument for why its not?

Because if there supporting the team they should be getting behind them like when you go the match an sing your getting behind the team supporting them if your walking down a street in your shirt whats it doing?.