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Re: RAWK Poker 'League'
« Reply #120 on: August 14, 2007, 12:39:10 am »
I watched for five mins and someone, phil i think, hit a straight flush if that's what you're on about.

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Re: RAWK Poker 'League'
« Reply #121 on: August 14, 2007, 07:32:26 am »
woo hoo, just won for the 1st time at a $5 sit and go.

Great feeling isn't it!!!!!
Count the number of losses before you win again, it's easier to remember the wins, but keeping an eye on the losses helps improve your game.

bore the poor sod to death as he went AI on a Q2.

With large blinds and a small stack, he has no choice but to go all-in, and in those conditions he's going to have very low starting requriments. Q2 is far from great but it's a picture card!

And PaulF, I see where you are coming from playing 4,2 off. I didn't actually play it when dealt as someone had raised big pre flop so I couldn't limp in, but if I had I would have cleared up a rather tidy pot as the straight hit bang on the flop!

I've got historical reasons for 4,2off.  It's about as poor a hand as you can get (I' won't play 4,2 suited), but because it's my 'lucky' hand I can bluff it with amazing confidence.  I found out last night I'm not confident it will hold up against a big pre-flop raise mind. I play it like I've got a pocket pair of Jacks.  I tend not to bluff, I've found it bluffing only costs me money and by sticking to one hand which I bluff with it helps keep me in the game.  I really ought to keep track of how often I play 4,2 and whether I do 'win' with it, or am ignoring my own advice by not counting the losses.
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Re: RAWK Poker 'League'
« Reply #122 on: August 14, 2007, 09:18:38 am »
Hi PaulF, when he went AI with Q2 he was far from having to make that move. Blinds were 300/600, and we were both still folding back and forward reguarly on them so without getting involved in hands our stacks were remaining constant, and he still had 4500 chips left.

The thing that pleased me most though was that I played to an actual plan once heads up, rather do as I would normally which is to just wait for a big pocket hand and then go all in hoping to get the action and win. This time I tried to 'groom' him into thinking I was a very weak player, one who was easy to bully out of pots with just a mere minumum bet. I wopuld only go to the flop if very cheap unless I had an Ace with at least a 10 kicker, and was reguarly folding decent picture cards.

He seemed to pick up on this and was putting in small bets after the flop (if I was still in the hand) knowing I would fold. But I then turned it around, whilst still only going into cheap flops I would wait until he put his 'bully bet' in then just come over the top all in, even with mediocre hands and he would fold everytime. Used this to claw back a few thousand chips and then finally started playing the bigger hands with more confidence (but not going all in) and won a couple more pots to make me chip leader, at which point I went back to playing very tight, and just playing strong hands.

Occasionally I would go AI pre flop if I hit rockets or kings and he never called but I wanted to start showing some variation. And then eventually he went AI on the Q2.

On the previous game though I played one poor hand that got me knocked out, but would be interested to see if the more experienced players here feel my opponent had the right to even call me. I had AJ. 7 of us left at table, blinds about 15/30 level. I bet 200 pre flop. Everyone bar one player folds. He raises to 400 and I call to see the flop. J,9,9. So I hit my jack and a 2nd flopped pair. No flush draw and I think to myself I'm big leader and an AI should see him fold and the only beat I could see was if he chased the straight.

I go all in, he calls - J,9 suited. He flopped the full house! Was his J9 strong enough to be reraising pre flop?

On my part I am guessing I should have played my AJ stronger pre flop to try and force out the limpers?

As for the 4,2. I have to admit I don't think I would risk any chips to see the flop. If I was BB and it checked round to me then great, but I would fold out against any pre flop bets!

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Re: RAWK Poker 'League'
« Reply #123 on: August 14, 2007, 09:28:31 am »
The thing that pleased me most though was that I played to an actual plan once heads up, rather do as I would normally which is to just wait for a big pocket hand and then go all in hoping to get the action and win. This time I tried to 'groom' him into thinking I was a very weak player, one who was easy to bully out of pots with just a mere minumum bet. I wopuld only go to the flop if very cheap unless I had an Ace with at least a 10 kicker, and was reguarly folding decent picture cards.

Nice plan. I really need to work on my heads up play, I usually just randomly trade blows and hope for the best!




As for the 4,2. I have to admit I don't think I would risk any chips to see the flop. If I was BB and it checked round to me then great, but I would fold out against any pre flop bets!

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« Last Edit: August 14, 2007, 09:36:22 am by PaulF »
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Re: RAWK Poker 'League'
« Reply #124 on: August 14, 2007, 10:09:37 am »
Phil M, you shouldn't be betting AJ any stronger than you did in my opinion. If anything it was too strong in the first place - x5 should usually do the trick. He was also wrong to call, but that's just the way it is.

I played in the £40,000 WPT tourney on pokerroom at the weekend. Second to act, I had KK. There was a raise in front of me, and I re-raised. The small blind called, and out-drew me with JT off, which he really should not have played in that situation at a full table. All you can do is play correctly and give yourself the best chance; if someone gets lucky then it wasn't meant to be.
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Re: RAWK Poker 'League'
« Reply #125 on: August 14, 2007, 10:21:33 am »
Cheers for the advice guys. I do always pay attention to any hand that goes the full distance, but this particular guy had been fairly quiet most of the time, and had won one small pot without having to show his hand so I was up against the unkown at this stage. It's all experience and yes, I accept that you will always get beaten by hands that have no right to call, but in this instance I was more interested in how strong a suited J9 was considered with regards to him raising my original bet.

Either way, depsite that and the early exit from the RAWK game I finished the night $9 in profit so not all bad! (Not that the money is the driving factor, at these stakes I am playing more for fun and experience!)

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Re: RAWK Poker 'League'
« Reply #126 on: August 14, 2007, 11:01:40 am »
Phil, the only way his re-raise was justified is as a bigger re-raise bluff. By just doubling he has to know he's going to get called by the original big raiser. The minimum re-raise was his worst possible move in that situation - the best was fold, followed by call (bad in istself), then the big re-raise (although some might say it's better than a call but you're still likely to be called by the original raiser), then the small reraise.
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Re: RAWK Poker 'League'
« Reply #127 on: August 14, 2007, 12:32:27 pm »
Ok, more advise please! Thinking of trying a cash game. How do these work? Are you free to join and leave as you please? Do you enter the amount of cash you want to enter the game with?

Also, and although unlikely if I were to hit the nuts on the first hand I am dealt and double through, would it be bad etiquette to take the winnings and run?

Does the style of play differ? I assume that with higher stakes it makes for a tighter game with less numpties going all in with rank hands?

Cheers in advance

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Re: RAWK Poker 'League'
« Reply #128 on: August 14, 2007, 12:42:11 pm »
Ok, more advise please! Thinking of trying a cash game. How do these work? Are you free to join and leave as you please? Do you enter the amount of cash you want to enter the game with?

Also, and although unlikely if I were to hit the nuts on the first hand I am dealt and double through, would it be bad etiquette to take the winnings and run?

Does the style of play differ? I assume that with higher stakes it makes for a tighter game with less numpties going all in with rank hands?

Cheers in advance

Free to leave as you please , there is an ettiquite when playing live cash to announce youre leaving in say 30/45 mins  but online fuck it win & leave if u please

alot of people will play all sorts of hands in cash to try and mix it up - i know a few very good live cash players from round liverpool and they will play all sorts of hands just to see the flop

and as for higher stakes not really any tighter at all


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Re: RAWK Poker 'League'
« Reply #129 on: August 14, 2007, 12:57:46 pm »
Cheers, in that case I think I may not be ready to get involved in those for time being. Will stick to the $5 sit and goes for now.

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Re: RAWK Poker 'League'
« Reply #130 on: August 14, 2007, 01:36:31 pm »
Cheers, in that case I think I may not be ready to get involved in those for time being. Will stick to the $5 sit and goes for now.

I agree with what Waterloo said. People tend not to go all-in so much on cash games, and your cash pile seems to swing VERY wildly. Ladbrokes are good, they have some really cheap games.

Worth buying in for $4 just for the experience, and saying to yourself you'll play on a double or nothing basis.  A better strategy might be stay in for 30mins and see where you are then, it'll help keep your play tight. 
Normally after a couple of hands you can spot someone who has no idea at all, and then just suck their money out of them.

I don't like cash games though, I get bored and tend to leak money  >:(
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Re: RAWK Poker 'League'
« Reply #131 on: August 14, 2007, 02:00:52 pm »
Ill be in next Monday I think Blurred!!
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Re: RAWK Poker 'League'
« Reply #132 on: August 14, 2007, 06:22:54 pm »
Hoping to start on this with you guys in a week or 2, if pokeroom lets me
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Re: RAWK Poker 'League'
« Reply #133 on: August 15, 2007, 11:56:29 am »
I'll try and remember next week!
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Re: RAWK Poker 'League'
« Reply #134 on: August 15, 2007, 12:24:12 pm »
I'm the Everton of the league, racing to an early place at the top of it, but will ultimately be happy not to finish in the bottom 3!
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Re: RAWK Poker 'League'
« Reply #135 on: August 15, 2007, 05:37:18 pm »
out of curiosity did yer sit there as sit ot or where yer genuinely away for the first 20 mins on monday ?
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Re: RAWK Poker 'League'
« Reply #136 on: August 15, 2007, 06:33:49 pm »
out of curiosity did yer sit there as sit ot or where yer genuinely away for the first 20 mins on monday ?


Genuinely away, the girlfriend made an unexpected visit !  Not a bad strategy for me though, as in previous RAWK games I was out in the first 20mins!
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Re: RAWK Poker 'League'
« Reply #137 on: August 15, 2007, 09:38:37 pm »
Genuinely away, the girlfriend made an unexpected visit !  Not a bad strategy for me though, as in previous RAWK games I was out in the first 20mins!

I thought you were cheating ;)  :P
I did consider sitting out for a while just after I went from short stack to chip leader but thought it bad form and stayed in.
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Re: RAWK Poker 'League'
« Reply #138 on: August 16, 2007, 11:49:03 am »
Well now you've posted in here it'll keep popping up in your unread posts and things nearer the time :)

To be honest I have never really used that facility on RAWK, but I might have to now! What time is kick off again?9pm
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Re: RAWK Poker 'League'
« Reply #139 on: August 16, 2007, 11:57:17 am »
To be honest I have never really used that facility on RAWK, but I might have to now! What time is kick off again?9pm

Yeah, but it's like the FA cup, the big boys come in for the third round about 9.30  ;D
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Re: RAWK Poker 'League'
« Reply #140 on: August 16, 2007, 03:49:36 pm »
Will get on at the weekend

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Re: RAWK Poker 'League'
« Reply #141 on: August 16, 2007, 04:03:46 pm »
My rawk usage revolves around unread posts!
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Re: RAWK Poker 'League'
« Reply #142 on: August 16, 2007, 04:59:02 pm »
I might join you all on Monday  :)

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Re: RAWK Poker 'League'
« Reply #143 on: August 20, 2007, 12:50:49 am »
guna play this ,this week any bonus codes for pokerroom?

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Re: RAWK Poker 'League'
« Reply #144 on: August 20, 2007, 09:53:52 am »
If my cash game form this weekend is anything to go by I may as well just donate you all lots of chips!
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Re: RAWK Poker 'League'
« Reply #145 on: August 20, 2007, 10:57:08 am »
Lo and I should both be there later :wave

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Re: RAWK Poker 'League'
« Reply #146 on: August 20, 2007, 11:06:06 am »
Lo and I should both be there later :wave

Oh well, maybe it won't be a complete disaster then  ;D
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Re: RAWK Poker 'League'
« Reply #147 on: August 20, 2007, 11:20:56 am »
Oh well, maybe it won't be a complete disaster then  ;D

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Re: RAWK Poker 'League'
« Reply #148 on: August 20, 2007, 11:34:47 am »
JESUS_GOD will play today

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Re: RAWK Poker 'League'
« Reply #149 on: August 20, 2007, 12:19:29 pm »
Can someone who can get on tell me how many we've got registered thus far?

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« Reply #150 on: August 20, 2007, 12:41:18 pm »
JESUS_GOD will play today

Come on then folks, get registering.
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« Reply #151 on: August 20, 2007, 12:51:19 pm »
I'm off out later to get a thingy to give me pennies to play  ;D


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« Reply #152 on: August 20, 2007, 01:20:06 pm »
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« Reply #153 on: August 20, 2007, 04:59:24 pm »
Fresh from my disaster at the GBPT in Leeds, I am registered.

Looking forward to my first game against Fiend.

Last 2 weeks have been bloody good games.

I hope there are two tables and I can start on one without Fiend , TOGH and Buck Pete!
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« Reply #154 on: August 20, 2007, 05:08:07 pm »
I hope there are two tables and I can start on one without Fiend , TOGH and Buck Pete!
Sod that Paul I'm having a nightmare lately.

Really looking forward to a decent friendly game tonight (although competitive)

Playing these live tourneys are tense affairs with too many Gus Hansen wannabees.

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« Reply #155 on: August 20, 2007, 06:32:32 pm »
I'm in :wave

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« Reply #156 on: August 20, 2007, 06:39:28 pm »
I'm in  :wave

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Re: RAWK Poker 'League'
« Reply #157 on: August 20, 2007, 06:48:41 pm »
cant deposit any funds with a maestro card, fucks sake, looks like i wont be able to play.

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« Reply #158 on: August 20, 2007, 06:49:50 pm »
Goto a shop that has a Paypoint and ask for a PaySafe Card :wave

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« Reply #159 on: August 20, 2007, 06:52:51 pm »
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