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Re: 2016 Formula 1 Thread
« Reply #2880 on: December 19, 2016, 08:42:47 am »
Could be someone like manor if it works on a cost basis?
cost would be the only reason

i dont know why a mercedes engined team would go for honda otherwise.

a good few races the manor was among the quickest in a speed trap so the engine is the least of their worries, if they got the car right.............

i would say its toro rosso, according to wiki their 2017 isnt confirmed
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Re: 2016 Formula 1 Thread
« Reply #2881 on: December 19, 2016, 02:50:38 pm »
Just been reading that photos taken recently of Schumacher that have been smuggled out of his home are being touted to the media for £1m.

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Re: 2016 Formula 1 Thread
« Reply #2882 on: December 19, 2016, 02:54:05 pm »
Just been reading that photos taken recently of Schumacher that have been smuggled out of his home are being touted to the media for £1m.
in the express

In 2013, a journalist dressed as a priest in a desperate and sick plot to gain access to his hospital in Grenoble after the accident.

Then in June 2014, Schumacher’s medical records were stolen and put up for sale – only for the suspected thief to hang himself in his prison cell.

And Schumacher’s doctor Dr Johannes Peil had his clinic burgled in March 2015, however he cannot confirm whether the callous thieves had been searching for information on the F1 star.


id be as interested as anyone to know how he is but at the same time this is different, the family want it private and thats their call. No excuse for invading any families privacy at a time like that.
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Re: 2016 Formula 1 Thread
« Reply #2883 on: December 19, 2016, 03:16:06 pm »
Webber suggesting Bottas is done deal?

https://twitter.com/aussiegrit/status/810862936864550912

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Re: 2016 Formula 1 Thread
« Reply #2884 on: December 19, 2016, 07:59:25 pm »
Webber suggesting Bottas is done deal?

https://twitter.com/aussiegrit/status/810862936864550912

Think thats the general consensus now, they asked him at some press thing he was attending and Bottas had the worst poker face going. Might as well have confirmed it there.
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Re: 2016 Formula 1 Thread
« Reply #2885 on: December 20, 2016, 05:33:19 am »
Just been reading that photos taken recently of Schumacher that have been smuggled out of his home are being touted to the media for £1m.
yup absolutely outrageous, the bastards involved need skinning.
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Re: 2016 Formula 1 Thread
« Reply #2887 on: December 20, 2016, 04:55:15 pm »
Team know him, he's an experienced driver, and will keep the sponsors happy.

You just wonder if there is a better driver out there who also offers those things. Massa has just seemed off the boil these last few seasons.

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Re: 2016 Formula 1 Thread
« Reply #2888 on: December 20, 2016, 05:09:53 pm »
The discussion of the 2016 season is over and we have moved onto the line-ups and cars for the new season. Anyone want to write a OP of merit? Post it in here, the winner gets the privilege of having their name on the F1 topic all next season.

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Re: 2016 Formula 1 Thread
« Reply #2889 on: December 20, 2016, 05:58:18 pm »
The discussion of the 2016 season is over and we have moved onto the line-ups and cars for the new season. Anyone want to write a OP of merit? Post it in here, the winner gets the privilege of having their name on the F1 topic all next season.

I'll give it a go

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Re: 2016 Formula 1 Thread
« Reply #2890 on: December 20, 2016, 06:28:47 pm »

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Re: 2016 Formula 1 Thread
« Reply #2891 on: December 20, 2016, 11:01:27 pm »
Winner!

Everyone over to the new topic.

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Re: 2016 Formula 1 Thread
« Reply #2892 on: December 22, 2016, 03:38:48 pm »
No sure who his idol is but whether it's Senna or Schumacher...
Senna. Hamilton's idol is Senna. There a video of the time Hamilton got to drive one of Senna's McLaren-Hondas and the word I'd use to describe it is "reverential".

The point I was making is that Hamilton if he wants a less competitive no.2 is practicing what used to be called the "South American" way of racing. The idea being that there is a designated and clear no.1 driver and the majority of the team's resources are put behind the no.1. Nelson Piquet asked for it when he joined Williams in 1986. Frank Williams, who was a racer himself, responded with (paraphrasing) "If you're the no.1 driver, you'll get equal equipment ad then it's your job to get out there and prove it". At the end of the season, Piquet could point to the lack of team orders that meant that Prost was able to sneak in and win the Driver's Championship in his McLaren-Porsche. Has there been team orders Piquet would have won, but we'd have been denied Mansell's epic manoeuvre at Stowe on the last lap.


In 1987 Piquet used the active ride Williams to win the Italian GP. Mansell didn't want to know as he'd had a bad experience with  Lotus' fledgling system (he had his legs sprayed with hot hydraulic fluid). Having done all the development on the Williams system Piquet then had to hand the fruits of his hard work over to Mansell.
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there is one difference between them two and Hamilton in that they were pretty much undisputedly the best drivers on the grid, I don't think that applies as much with Hamilton, the competition is a lot tighter with Alonso, Verstappen and possibly Riciardo as to whose currently the fastest driver on the grid between those four but for the good of the sport Hamilton needs a decent team mate otherwise people will switch off.
Hmmm. It's always up for debate. Prost was a brilliant driver in his own right. Arguably the best of all time when he beat the record for wins. But things change over a long career, as do perceptions over time. A notable absentee from your list of quickest drivers is quadruple World Champion Vettel. Is he no longer quick now he's in a not that great Ferrari? It's always up for debate as the cars people drive are a huge factor on how quick we think they are; does the car suit their style? In the Red Bull, Vettel had a car that handled like a cart (a lot of front end). It might be undrivable to someone else. Mansell once scoffed at the fact that Prost spent all his time setting up the car "so the car does all the work", to which Prost would have replied "That's the point". Different cars, different styles, it's all a bit murky.

Besides which, Senna and Schumacher's careers overlapped and they shared the grid, which, I think, rather undermines your point on "undisputable".
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