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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #120 on: December 1, 2010, 12:47:48 pm »
Cant say that they owners are filling me with confidence at the moment. Everyday there seems to be another young prospect linked with a move AWAY from the club....I would have thought they would want to keep players like pacheco and lucus because that is what their 'policy' is?? I will be extremelly pissed off if eith of these two go. Pacheco is spains biggest young talent and Lucas has been playing very well and consistantly been our best midfielder this season and is also a brazilian first team international. Why would any club want to sell them??

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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #121 on: December 1, 2010, 12:50:49 pm »
utter crap every time we hear some ones getting sold its always a liverpool player. first agger then johnson' torres'gerrard'reina now fucking lucas its never any one else the media are just shit stirers
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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #122 on: December 1, 2010, 12:56:31 pm »
First Pacheco then Lucas... are we turning into Fulham?!
haven't we already turned into Fulham ?   ???

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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #123 on: December 1, 2010, 01:01:02 pm »
Lucas for me is 'the' most important member of our squad now. He's in same category as Gerrard, Torres, Pepe, Agger and Raul.

Category 'A':
Gerrard, Torres, Pepe, Lucas, Raul, Agger, Aquilani

Category 'B':
Johnson, Skrtel, Kuyt, Cole

Category 'C':
Carra, Soto, Aurelio, Insua, Maxi, Ngog

Category 'D':
Poulsen, Konchesky, Roy Hodgson

Youngsters (No Category required, some can slot straight into 'B' category):
Wilson, Jonjo, Spearing, Kelly, Pacheco

Agree with virtually all of that, but you've excluded Jovanovic (Category C?), and you should get rid of the Category D - it should be Z  ;)

As for Lucas - he's improving all the time & has age on his side, so why would we contemplate selling?

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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #124 on: December 1, 2010, 01:13:12 pm »
Tunrining into fulham? more into "emptyham" if it continues in this direction..Beginning with Aquilqni and Insua,  tried to sell Lucas to Stock, and what next?

The squad has no real depth as it is, now they  are going to empty it further? At least to add a qualified LB and another striker, if possible like Tevez who can provide himself with balls and not just wait for feeding. Not another Torres. Only one no/ 9 in the team..

To answer some other question, THE GLOBO is an imperia who besides the paper and internet site, they have a good TV, (Brazilian and International, which also produced some of the best Telenovelas like the clone) , They have regional radio all over Brazil, and correspondets world wide, their Globo Esporte  covers  all important football leagues and other sports.  The news about Lucas supposed pass to Sevilla was the main piece of news in the English Football page, they indicating the source as Daily Mirror and Sky. They indicated that his contract  ends next year so according to FIFA rulls he can negotiate and sign pre-contract with  another club in 6 month time.
I do not know if his agent is spreading the rumours in order to get him better new contract in Liver, it has done before.
We will have to be patient, in 2 months we will know for sure.  I hope he stays.  Changing clubs will harm Liverpool and will stop his progress cuve for another time of adapting, and it can even jeopadize his continuity in the NT. So it is a lose-lose situation.  The only winner here will be the agent, some of them are voltures (Nothing personal, I do not know this particular Agent)


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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #125 on: December 1, 2010, 01:16:04 pm »
Lucas is our best midfielder and one of most consistent players we have.
He should be bound to the club for 10 next years and we should be lucky to have got him as cheap as we have.
I don't even wan't to entertain the thought of selling him, pure, pure lunacy.

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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #126 on: December 1, 2010, 01:18:15 pm »
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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #127 on: December 1, 2010, 01:20:10 pm »
Hell no, not a fucking chance. We developed him, endure the young Lucas, just to sell him when he 's reaching his peak. Fuck no, are we that stupid ?

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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #128 on: December 1, 2010, 01:26:13 pm »
I worry more about his contract running down than I am thinking about selling him on. If he's not sorted soon he can easily decide he wants to move on.
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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #129 on: December 1, 2010, 01:28:36 pm »
Hell no, not a fucking chance. We developed him, endure the young Lucas, just to sell him when he 's reaching his peak. Fuck no, are we that stupid ?
We bought Konchesky and Poulsen, that alone should answer your question!
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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #130 on: December 1, 2010, 01:29:27 pm »
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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #131 on: December 1, 2010, 01:33:53 pm »
No he shouldn't I don't particularly rate him (though he has def improved) but such is the state of the team that I would have him starting every game possible now. Light years ahead of Poulsen
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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #132 on: December 1, 2010, 01:37:11 pm »
Selling Lucas would be a disgrace, been one of our better players this season.

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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #133 on: December 1, 2010, 01:39:39 pm »
Yes, lets sell a player who is being picked more and more reguarly for Brazil.

Brazil? I mean what the fuck do they know about the great game.

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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #134 on: December 1, 2010, 01:41:24 pm »
I'd be so disappointed if he left - doubly so if someone like Carlton Cole was bought. Him and meireles have been great and he's one of my favourite players.

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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #135 on: December 1, 2010, 01:42:10 pm »
Rewind 12-18 months......'Should Lucas be sold in January?' 95% say yes.......oooooh you fickle wishy washy bunch of twats.

a lorra things have changed since then.... the rest of the squad for example  :o

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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #136 on: December 1, 2010, 01:44:33 pm »
jesus how did this get to 4 pages
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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #137 on: December 1, 2010, 01:46:40 pm »
jesus how did this get to 4 pages
It's RAWK, what did you expect?
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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #138 on: December 1, 2010, 01:48:45 pm »
jesus how did this get to 4 pages
It's RAWK, what did you expect?


No one's actually said he should be sold in January (including the OP)
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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #139 on: December 1, 2010, 01:50:15 pm »
No one's actually said he should be sold in January (including the OP)
See that thing in bold red at the top of each post, what does it say?
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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #140 on: December 1, 2010, 01:53:07 pm »
See that thing in bold red at the top of each post, what does it say?

See those twirly things with dots underneath them after that sentence? (<--- there's one there look!) It means it's a question; Should Lucas be sold in January? (there it is again look!) isn't the same as "Lucas should be sold in January".

Oh, and by the way, she answers her own question in that OP and says no.
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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #141 on: December 1, 2010, 01:56:30 pm »
Absolutely not, absurd idea.   I could think of 10 other players I'd prefer to go.

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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #142 on: December 1, 2010, 01:58:47 pm »
See those twirly things with dots underneath them after that sentence? (<--- there's one there look!) It means it's a question; Should Lucas be sold in January? (there it is again look!) isn't the same as "Lucas should be sold in January".

Oh, and by the way, she answers her own question in that OP and says no.

So lets pull anorther 28 names out of the air, i.e our squad and post them up as some form of discussion.

'Should Pepe Reina *feel free to add another name* be sold?..= Kneejerk tittle tattle.

And add to that that most in here were probably calling for his head 12-18 months ago makes it even more comical.
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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #143 on: December 1, 2010, 02:01:53 pm »
Not only Lucas but surely it's also time to ship out Stevie, Carra and Kuyt and probably Johnson and Torres...all for big money, sign some good players and give the kids a chance.  Dani Pacheco is surely good enough replace Torres, Danny Wilson can take Carra's place, Kelly Johnsons, Babbel can take Kuyts place and Spearing can step in for Stevie.  Then we can use all the spare money to fund a great new shiny stadium.

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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #144 on: December 1, 2010, 02:04:55 pm »
Only if we can get Scott Parker or Danny Murphy.

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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #145 on: December 1, 2010, 02:08:11 pm »
Not only Lucas but surely it's also time to ship out Stevie, Carra and Kuyt and probably Johnson and Torres...all for big money, sign some good players and give the kids a chance.  Dani Pacheco is surely good enough replace Torres, Danny Wilson can take Carra's place, Kelly Johnsons, Babbel can take Kuyts place and Spearing can step in for Stevie.  Then we can use all the spare money to fund a great new shiny stadium.

Not gonna catch any with that. You need to be more subtle.

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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #146 on: December 1, 2010, 02:08:37 pm »
I didn't even know Itandje was still with us. If that lad's still here, no way should Lucas be sold.
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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #147 on: December 1, 2010, 02:09:24 pm »
If Lucas is sold to Sevilla ala Aquilani to Juve and Insua to Gala then I'll fucking kill Hodgson.
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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #149 on: December 1, 2010, 02:11:27 pm »
This thread is a testament to Lucas. How opinion on him has changed.

Well in son, keep it up, you're going nowhere.

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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #150 on: December 1, 2010, 02:12:53 pm »
Not gonna catch any with that. You need to be more subtle.

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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #151 on: December 1, 2010, 02:14:19 pm »
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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #152 on: December 1, 2010, 02:15:20 pm »
How's my effort?

Much better.

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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #153 on: December 1, 2010, 02:15:21 pm »
This thread is a testament to Lucas. How opinion on him has changed.

Well in son, keep it up, you're going nowhere.
Was just about to say the same, the amount of threads that have slated him, nice to see him growing into his role in the side. Selling him is a ludicrous idea.

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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #154 on: December 1, 2010, 02:17:45 pm »
So lets pull anorther 28 names out of the air, i.e our squad and post them up as some form of discussion.

'Should Pepe Reina *feel free to add another name* be sold?..= Kneejerk tittle tattle.

And add to that that most in here were probably calling for his head 12-18 months ago makes it even more comical.

You didn't read the first post I gather then? It was reporting a news story which apparently has Sevilla interested in Lucas. Everyone in the thread since- including the person who started it- has said he shouldn't be sold and that he's an important member of the team.

This thread is a testament to Lucas. How opinion on him has changed.

Well in son, keep it up, you're going nowhere.

Exactly- it goes to show how important he is. Hell, look in the Captaincy thread and there're a fair few shouts for Lucas- it's obvious to see why when you watch him as well.
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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #155 on: December 1, 2010, 02:20:14 pm »
Depends on the price. Say Lucas was sold to buy Defour id bite your hands off. Lucas has developed into a good player,  ideally i'd keep him.

Just to go against the grain and probably recieve untold abuse as seems to usual, I think Lucas either over rated or underrated its always one extreme.

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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #156 on: December 1, 2010, 02:27:05 pm »
Rewind 12-18 months......'Should Lucas be sold in January?' 95% say yes.......oooooh you fickle wishy washy bunch of twats.

There is a thing called player development, you know.

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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #157 on: December 1, 2010, 02:28:11 pm »
Fuck no (not for less than 15 million anyway)

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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #158 on: December 1, 2010, 02:28:52 pm »
In a word, no.
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Re: Should Lucas be sold in January??
« Reply #159 on: December 1, 2010, 02:28:53 pm »
He has undoubtedly made progress but having him as stand in captain is premature. As for the Sevilla story, the press are just trotting out the most tenuous of links on the balance of the flak he attracted for his performances last season and the speculation that Hodgson wanted to cull all Rafa's peripheral figures.
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