Topic: The Pyramids

[RedRabbit]

75,000 people work at Heathrow.

Exactly. And look how well that oper....

Wait....

[Sangria]

This guy is whooshing, right?

The number of documentaries that show how the pyramids were likely constructed are so numerous that to even challenge the basic concept is ridiculous.

I'm just going off memory of course, but if we're just talking about Egyptian pyramids, it's layers of blocks laid on top of one another, with the chambers and shafts shaped into the blocks as they're set.  The whole thing is held together by gravity and supported by the massive base.  For all their size, it is very straightforward. 

Ancient civilisations built them because if you wanted to build big that's all their technology allowed for - sliding blocks into place and stacking them on top of one another. There are no doubt details, but it's not like you're constructing a huge, self supporting tower, with complicated interiors and delicate carvings, like with the Anglican Cathedral.

20 years might seem a bit short I'll admit, but if conditions are right with no setbacks and good planning I imagine it is quite possible for a King, with an endless supply of workers and money, to get it done.  If there's a bad harvest or a drought then maybe it stretches to 30 years.

According to the books I've read, their beliefs share out the afterlife to those that were involved, so in addition to the pay and food (with rations being a form of payment back then), the workers also get a piece of what the pharoah's getting as a result of this. And relating to this, the famed Greek sculptors were supposedly inspired by the craft of Egyptian stonemasony, so there shouldn't be much surprise over the finery of Egyptian stonework if there is none over Greek stonework.

[Andy Hunter]

I've gone back and listened to THAT podcast today. And Jeff Hardy made a good point in that, if we evolve from monkeys then why do monkeys still exist?

It just shows there a lot of anomalies in regards to the Pyramids and beyond.

[Lusty]

Great.

What's his name? I'm assuming he's well known. Anyone that solved the mystery of how the Great Pyramid was built would be pretty well known...

It's not a mystery though mate, you've been literally inundated with links explaining how it was done. I practically gave you a fucking GAANT chart

[CraigDS]

What's his name? I'm assuming he's well known. Anyone that solved the mystery of how the Great Pyramid was built would be pretty well known...

to be honest you were pretty emphatic in stressing ANY architect.

Ring up and ask ANY architect and/or engineer about building the Great Pyramid of Giza and they'll hang up on you. Your choice, pick any in the world. You won't get it done it twenty years.

[CraigDS]

I've gone back and listened to THAT podcast today. And Jeff Hardy made a good point in that, if we evolve from monkeys then why do monkeys still exist?

It just shows there a lot of anomalies in regards to the Pyramids and beyond.

Please don't, we're struggling with the pyramids, let alone evolution 

[Lusty]

I've gone back and listened to THAT podcast today. And Jeff Hardy made a good point in that, if we evolve from monkeys then why do monkeys still exist?

It just shows there a lot of anomalies in regards to the Pyramids and beyond.

Oh don't you fucking start! 

[RedRabbit]

I've gone back and listened to THAT podcast today. And Jeff Hardy made a good point in that, if we evolve from monkeys then why do monkeys still exist?

It just shows there a lot of anomalies in regards to the Pyramids and beyond.

You're going to need a new thread thread for that trip.

[TheShanklyGates]

I've gone back and listened to THAT podcast today. And Jeff Hardy made a good point in that, if we evolve from monkeys then why do monkeys still exist?

It just shows there a lot of anomalies in regards to the Pyramids and beyond.

Fucking hell this thread

RAWK gold if ever I saw it.

[The Gulleysucker]

I've gone back and listened to THAT podcast today. And Jeff Hardy made a good point in that, if we evolve from monkeys then why do monkeys still exist?

It just shows there a lot of anomalies in regards to the Pyramids and beyond.

Just stop.

Please stop.

It's difficult dealing with one remedial as it is.

[Anywhichwayicant]

How about Dover Castle then? Or Chichen Itza. The Collusium? Or Petra? All equally impressive and they didn't have JCBs to help.

In fairness, we're talking thousands of years between those. And definitely not as impressive as the Great Pyramid.

You're telling me that the Great Pyramid only took twice as long as Dover Castle, using waaaaaaay bigger blocks, and thousands of years beforehand?

[The Gulleysucker]

Experts please.

Scaredy cat.

[Chakan]

Haha and this took him five minutes to do?

How high did he lift this block?

I could lift Chakan, it doesn't mean I could carry him several hundred feet into the air.

Im not very tall or weight that much (I could lose a few pounds though) don’t sell yourself short mate, you could lift me up.

[Jiminy Cricket]

I've left it open ended.

Ring up and ask ANY architect and/or engineer about building the Great Pyramid of Giza and they'll hang up on you. Your choice, pick any in the world. You won't get it done it twenty years.

Sound like you are actually tried this and that was the response!

[Anywhichwayicant]

Experts please.

Scaredy cat.

Your choice.  ANY architect or engineer.

They'll hang up on you.

No rush.

[Andy Hunter]

You guys are telling me to stop, but your not getting the point!!!

I revived this thread last Thursday, and it's been nearly a week and we are still debating.

From all the replies I've seen we are still nowhere closer.

Hence to say, if they made a different conspiracy point on the SAME podcast that is also as perplexing, then we aren't going to find a definitive answer about the pyramids either.


Just like Stonehenge or what was the guy who discovered milk doing to with the cows genitals, there will always be anomalies.

And yes that is contradictory in me reviving this 2007 thread, but all I'm saying is there are MANY unanswered questions in the world.

[The Gulleysucker]

Your choice.  ANY architect or engineer.

They'll hang up on you.

No rush.

Experts please.

[Lusty]

In fairness, we're talking thousands of years between those. And definitely not as impressive as the Great Pyramid.

You're telling me that the Great Pyramid only took twice as long as Dover Castle, using waaaaaaay bigger blocks, and thousands of years beforehand?

Yes. That's exactly what I'm telling you. And I've given you perfectly detailed information on how they did it which you're wilfully ignoring.

Anyway forget it. We've moved on. We're dealing with the Undertaker's theory on who killed Princess Diana now I think.

[Jiminy Cricket]

I've gone back and listened to THAT podcast today. And Jeff Hardy made a good point in that, if we evolve from monkeys then why do monkeys still exist?

It just shows there a lot of anomalies in regards to the Pyramids and beyond.

Huh. We have relatively recent common ancestors to modern primates. We did not 'evolve from any form of monkey*', in just the same way as you are not the offspring of your cousins (or, maybe I'm being overly generous).


* Edit: I meant any living species.

[Anywhichwayicant]

You guys are telling me to stop, but your not getting the point!!!

I revived this thread last Thursday, and it's been nearly a week and we are still debating.

From all the replies I've seen we are still nowhere closer.

Hence to say, if they made a different conspiracy point on the SAME podcast that is also as perplexing, then we aren't going to find a definitive answer about the pyramids either.


Just like Stonehenge or what was the guy who discovered milk doing to the cow, there will always be anomalies.

And yes that is contradictory in me reviving this 2007 thread, but all I'm saying is there are MANY unanswered questions in the world.

There is no debate. RAWK has solved all of life's mysteries.

[Djozer]

I've gone back and listened to THAT podcast today. And Jeff Hardy made a good point in that, if we evolve from monkeys then why do monkeys still exist?

It just shows there a lot of anomalies in regards to the Pyramids and beyond.

You, sir, are a truly fantastic piss taker. I would doff my cap to you were I currently wearing one.

Unless you were being serious, in which case, erm. Google is your friend.

[redbyrdz]

And I am clueless, just like everyone else is about Giza. I'm not trying to fool myself though.

You are confusing 'I don't know' with 'nobody knows'. There are in fact quite a few people who know quite a lot about how the pyramids were build. If you'd bother to even just look at wikipedia, you might learn a bit about it too.

[Anywhichwayicant]

You are confusing 'I don't know' with 'nobody knows'. There are in fact quite a few people who know quite a lot about how the pyramids were build. If you'd bother to even just look at wikipedia, you might learn a bit about it too.

Wikipaedia? 

[The Gulleysucker]

Your choice.  ANY architect or engineer.

They'll hang up on you.

And I told you my Architect brother in law, (it takes 7 years to qualify, he studied at Newcastle), said you're talking utter bollocks and obviously haven't a clue what you are talking about.

And er, almost forgot in all this excitement, your experts please.

Chicken.

[Andy Hunter]

You, sir, are a truly fantastic piss taker. I would doff my cap to you were I currently wearing one.

Unless you were being serious, in which case, erm. Google is your friend.

I'm not taking the piss! I was going to raise the Monkey point last Saturday, but then I saw all the piss taking from everyone else.

But I decided to dig the monkey debate out to prove like the Pyramids that some things just CAN'T be solved.

[TheShanklyGates]

There is no debate. RAWK has solved all of life's mysteries.

There is no debate because one side is offering evidence whilst the other is shoving it's fingers in its ears and going 'LALALA NOT LISTENING'.

[CraigDS]

Isn't Alan an architect too?

[Djozer]

Huh. We have relatively recent common ancestors to modern primates. We did not 'evolve from any from monkeys', in just the same way as you are not the offspring of your cousins (or, maybe I'm being overly generous).

Jeff Hardy disagrees.

The rest of your point I agree with. I'm constantly amazed at how many people seem to believe evolution moves in a strictly linear fashion.

[Jiminy Cricket]

Your choice.  ANY architect or engineer.

They'll hang up on you.

No rush.

Again! Must have stung!

[Anywhichwayicant]

And I told you my Architect brother in law, (it takes 7 years to qualify, he studied at Newcastle), said you're talking utter bollocks and obviously haven't a clue what you are talking about.

And er, almost forgot in all this excitement, your experts please.

Chicken.

I asked for your brother in laws credentials? What's his theory?

[Chakan]

Isn't Alan an architect too?

Anyone got his number?

[Lusty]

all I'm saying is there are MANY unanswered questions in the world.

This is true mate, but who built the pyramids and why are there still monkeys are not great examples. If you look beyond the current WWE roster there are people who can explain them to you.

[CraigDS]

What's his theory?

I imagine he thinks you were probably dropped on your head during your early childhood, like the rest of us.

[Elmo!]

Is Alan_X not an architect? We must have some engineers on here as well that can settle this seeing as that's the criteria set.

[Chakan]

This is true mate, but who built the pyramids and why are there still monkeys are not great examples. If you look beyond the current WWE roster there are people who can explain them to you.

Just don’t tell him wrestling is fake.

[The Gulleysucker]

...but all I'm saying is there are MANY unanswered questions in the world.

The big unanswered question, not so much in the World but certainly here on Rawk, is anywhichwayyoucan't...

[The Gulleysucker]

I asked for your brother in laws credentials? What's his theory?

He's an architect.

Give me your experts.

I asked first.

Coward.

[redbyrdz]

I'm not taking the piss! I was going to raise the Monkey point last Saturday, but then I saw all the piss taking from everyone else.

But I decided to dig the monkey debate out to prove like the Pyramids that some things just CAN'T be solved.

What can't be solved?

[Andy Hunter]

This is true mate, but who built the pyramids and why are there still monkeys are not great examples. If you look beyond the current WWE roster there are people who can explain them to you.

Chris Jericho left in April, but I get your point. Like I said in this thread before, I don't go to WWE for that information.

A celebrity that happened to be a WWE star made a point, and I did a Rawk search for a thread on pyramids to get a quickfire answer on his theory. Yet a week later here we are.

I should of just gone to Ask, Rawk Replies. But I have been on Google too for experts analysis.

[Djozer]

I'm not taking the piss! I was going to raise the Monkey point last Saturday, but then I saw all the piss taking from everyone else.

But I decided to dig the monkey debate out to prove like the Pyramids that some things just CAN'T be solved.

Mate, we didn't evolve from modern monkeys, though we share a common ancestor, which was probably some kind of monkey itself, or primate, at any rate. From that common ancestor, we evolved. The various different species of monkeys and apes that exist today also evolved, they just took a different evolutionary path to us. Evolution doesn't always work in a strictly linear fashion (ie from thicker creatures like monkeys to more intelligent species such as ourselves), hence the variety in primate species we see today.

I'm probably explaining it poorly, so here's a picture that should help a bit: