Topic: The Pyramids

[Jiminy Cricket]

Just caught up, it's the human sized ants now i think

The Loch Ness Monster, I think.

[Jiminy Cricket]

What kind of site is that?

I'm hoping that it was just a joke about British English - encyclopaedia, being the correct (possibly now old-fashioned) spelling. But, I fear it was some other, more crap, puerile and tasteless 'joke'.

[Andy Hunter]

I'm hoping that it was just a joke about British English - encyclopaedia, being the correct (possibly now old-fashioned) spelling. But, I fear it was some other, more crap, puerile and tasteless 'joke'.

Yes it was based on the Latin version.

[Ziltoid]

The Loch Ness Monster, I think.

Hasnt someone squeezed her teats yet to get milk out?

[Andy Hunter]

Hasnt someone squeezed her teats yet to get milk out?

We sure it's a she?

[Ziltoid]

We sure it's a she?

So its not milk?

[Andy Hunter]

So its not milk?

Milk was the cow stuff. Not sure what Locky produces.

[Samie]

We need to talk to this lad.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/drunk-time-traveller-arrest-alien-invasion-warning-police-casper-wyoming-a7984061.html

[Lusty]

'News and Current Affairs'

[Red Beret]

'News and Current Affairs'

Well this is pretty current.

[TheShanklyGates]

Well this is pretty current.

AWWYC thinks they've only just finished building them after all. It would have been literally impossible to do it any quicker.

[Red Beret]

AWWYC thinks they've only just finished building them after all. It would have been literally impossible to do it any quicker.

 

[Andy Hunter]

As funny as this thread has been, it will never upsurp who was in that Van Dijk car.

Who if AWWYC was in that thread?

It peaked when we were tracking Southampton T-Junctions.

[Anywhichwayicant]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6EW_aNWh84

A master stonemason (even using modern steel tools) is having a nightmare replicating (a much smaller) Spinx's nose.

We're supposed to believe that the Egyptians quarried, shaped (very precisely) and laid 2,000,000 blocks in twenty years, using copper tools.

The Old Testament is more believable.

[The Gulleysucker]

Eh up, the Brains Trust is back...

[Corkboy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6EW_aNWh84

A master stonemason (even using modern steel tools) is having a nightmare replicating (a much smaller) Spinx's nose.

We're supposed to believe that the Egyptians quarried, shaped (very precisely) and laid 2,000,000 blocks in twenty years, using copper tools.

The Old Testament is more believable.

Do you ever get tired of your own posts?

[J_Kopite]

The "ignore" function remains available people.

[Anywhichwayicant]

Do you ever get tired of your own posts?

The "ignore" function remains available people.

[Peabee]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6EW_aNWh84

A master stonemason (even using modern steel tools) is having a nightmare replicating (a much smaller) Spinx's nose.

We're supposed to believe that the Egyptians quarried, shaped (very precisely) and laid 2,000,000 blocks in twenty years, using copper tools.

The Old Testament is more believable.

Finding one video to fit your opinion doesn't count as evidence or research.  Try to find info/data that challenges your assumptions, and if you still can't be persuaded, then you might have a stronger argument.

[Anywhichwayicant]

Finding one video to fit your opinion doesn't count as evidence or research.  Try to find info/data that challenges your assumptions, and if you still can't be persuaded, then you might have a stronger argument.

Haha that's the thing, it's not one video.

And even if I posted 2,000,000 (one for each precisely carved blocked of the Great Pyramid) people would dismiss it as 'Conspiracy loon'.

You go try carve a hard rock with a copper chisel and report back. I suppose the skilled stonemason is happy to look like an utter failure, must be great for business.

[CraigDS]

There would have been hundreds, in fact thousands, of stone masons working around the clock on these things using methods that had been refined over hundreds of years - not two old fellas using methods they have refined over the previous 5 minutes.

[CraigDS]

Haha that's the thing, it's not one video.

And even if I posted 2,000,000 (one for each precisely carved blocked of the Great Pyramid) people would dismiss it as 'Conspiracy loon'.

You go try carve a hard rock with a copper chisel and report back. I suppose the skilled stonemason is happy to look like an utter failure, must be great for business.

1. They weren't all precisely carved. Other than the facing stones it's clear to see the others were of varying size.

2. Your last sentence is bizarre and more than a tad dramatic. I doubt he's being employed to use copper tools so hardly looking like a failure.

[Anywhichwayicant]

There would have been hundreds, in fact thousands, of stone masons working around the clock on these things using methods that had been refined over hundreds of years - not two old fellas using methods they have refined over the previous 5 minutes.

So we've transitioned from slaves to skilled stone masons.

It doesn't matter how skilled you are, copper cannot beat hard rock. It's physics. Just like quarrying, carrying, sculpting and laying a two tonne block every five minutes is mathematically impossible.

Simple science and mathematics.

[CraigDS]

So we've transitioned from slaves to skilled stone masons.

Slaves, paid workers or a form of national service, I imagine the ones doing the bulk of the carving work would be using techniques taught to them rather than being unskilled.

It doesn't matter how skilled you are, copper cannot beat hard rock. It's physics. Just like quarrying, carrying, sculpting and laying a two tonne block every five minutes is mathematically impossible.

Simple science and mathematics.

Please provide the maths...

[The Gulleysucker]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6EW_aNWh84

A master stonemason
 

I suppose the skilled stonemason

Master...skilled....guy with chisel pretending to carve in order to support wacky theories....

See this...



This is the result of a master mason. Carved from one 20 ton block of pink granite, by hand, by one person, in one year.

He  only works in granite and he's very productive...http://www.ronaldrae.co.uk

Now imagine what a couple of hundred or more Ronald Rae's could do.

[Crosby Nick]

^^^

Evidence please.

[Peabee]

So we've transitioned from slaves to skilled stone masons.

It doesn't matter how skilled you are, copper cannot beat hard rock. It's physics. Just like quarrying, carrying, sculpting and laying a two tonne block every five minutes is mathematically impossible.

Simple science and mathematics.

You're basing that on one block at a time.  If they did, say, 120 at a time, they'd have 10 hours per block.  I'm sure you know that though. 

[Peabee]

^^^

Evidence please.

Exactly.  How does he know it didn't take him 1000 years? 

[The Gulleysucker]

...You go try carve a hard rock with a copper chisel and report back.

Try bronze tools with cutting stones set in...http://www.theglobaleducationproject.org/egypt/articles/petrie.php

"The typical method of working hard stones - such as granite, diorite, basalt, etc.- was by means of bronze tools; these were set with cutting points, far harder than the quartz which was operated on. The material of these cutting points is yet undetermined; but only five substances are possible - beryl, topaz, chrysoberyl, corindum or sapphire, and diamond. The character of the work would certainly seem to point to diamond as being the cutting jewel; and only the considerations of its rarity in general,...interfer with this conclusion."
....

 "That the Egyptians were acquainted with a cutting jewel far harder than quartz, and that they used this jewel as a sharp pointed graver, is put beyond doubt by the diorite bowls with inscriptions of the fourth dynasty, of which I found fragments at Gizeh; as well as the scratches on polished granite of Ptolemaic age at San. The hieroglyphs are incised, with a very fre-cutting point; they are not scraped or ground out, but are ploughed through the diorite, with rough edges to the line. As the lines are only 1/150 inch wide (the figures being about .2 long), it is evidence that the cutting point must have been much harder than quartz; and tough enough not to splinter when so fine an edge was being employed, probably only 1/200 inch wide. Parallel lines are graved only 1/30 inch apart from centre to centre."

"We therefore need have no hesitation in allowing that the graving out of lines in hard stones by jewel points, was a well known art. And when we find on the surfaces of the saw-cuts in diorite, grooves as deep as 1/100 inch, it appears far more likely that such were produced by fixed jewel points in the saw, than by any fortuitous rubbing about of a loose powder. And when, further, it is seen that these deep grooves are almost always regular and uniform in depth, and equidistant, their production by the successive cuts of the jewel teeth of a saw appears to be beyond question..."

"That the blades of the saw were of bronze, we know from the green staining on the sides of the saw cuts, and on grains of sand left in a saw cut.
The forms of the tools were straight saws, circular saws, tubular drills, and lathes.
The straight saws varied from .03 to .2 inch thick, according to the work; the largest were 8 feet or more in length..." "...No. 6, a slice of diorite bearing equidistant and regular grooves of circular arcs, parallel to one another; these grooves have been nearly polished out by cross grinding, but are still visible. The only feasible explanation of this piece is that it was produced by a circular saw."

[Corkboy]

The "ignore" function remains available people.

It only works if everyone uses it. Anywhatthefuck posts things and people reply to them. It basically fucks the thread.

[J_Kopite]

It only works if everyone uses it. Anywhatthefuck posts things and people reply to them. It basically fucks the thread.

"Be the change that you wish to see in the world" Roy Hodgson.

[Welshred]

The "ignore" function remains available people.

Then you just get no message every other post in the thread, followed by people quoting that message so you get to see his drivel each and every time.

He also ignored my question of how he is able to have the cheek of claiming someone is fictional when he made up a story about him having twins on thus very website

[CraigDS]

It's also worth noting that Ancient Egyptians were working iron from way back to 3200-3500BC, long before the first pyramids, so it's entirely possible they didn't just have copper tools.

[Peabee]

Then you just get no message every other post in the thread, followed by people quoting that message so you get to see his drivel each and every time.

He also ignored my question of how he is able to have the cheek of claiming someone is fictional when he made up a story about him having twins on thus very website

Wait, what?

[Lusty]

Oh God it's kicked off again 

[Crosby Nick]

Wait, what?

That's what he called them.

[Peabee]

That's what he called them.

Anywhatwayyoucan and Anywhichwayyouwait ?

[Ziltoid]

That's what he called them.

 

so did he have twins as in parentage or did he have twins he met on tinder or somesuch in a sordid sexual romp?

[WhereAngelsPlay]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6EW_aNWh84

A master stonemason (even using modern steel tools) is having a nightmare replicating (a much smaller) Spinx's nose.

We're supposed to believe that the Egyptians quarried, shaped (very precisely) and laid 2,000,000 blocks in twenty years, using copper tools.

The Old Testament is more believable.

Haha I knew that you would read,ignore and then repeat it that is why I posted it.

Bronze age = Bronze tools & each stone mason had his own gang who would constantly switch out his chisel with freshly sharpened ones.

But yes they did but NO each block was not very precisely shaped and NONE of them were very precisely shaped in the quarry.

Haha that's the thing, it's not one video.

And even if I posted 2,000,000 (one for each precisely carved blocked of the Great Pyramid) people would dismiss it as 'Conspiracy loon'.

You go try carve a hard rock with a copper chisel and report back. I suppose the skilled stonemason is happy to look like an utter failure, must be great for business.

Bronze chisels and Limestone is not very hard rock,you can scratch a whole block using just wood if you had the time & patience..

[Max_powers]

The great wall of China has close to 4 billion bricks. Let's assume that a person can lay 1 brick per minute with mortar, so it would have taken 7000 years to build it. Since its impossible to have a workforce of 1000's of people working on a construction project. Impossible I say.

Burj Khalifa also must have been started thousands of years ago.