Topic: Mohamed Salah - Best in the World *

[ToneLa]

god, on social media so many want to sell him over his "spat"

which I looked back on and looked like hardly anything

Plastic fans after Saudi money

[Zlen]

Not fussed if he's sold or if he stays - as long as we buy someone to compete for that spot. We're desperately thin on right wing, it's basically Salah or Elliot who really isn't a winger. So whatever we do - please buy another player with pace who can take on defenders. It will be better for everyone, Salah included if he stays.

[smutchin]

Let's see if he's willing to accept a wage reduction first, highly unlikely.

Where has this talk of a wage reduction come from?

[Simplexity]

Why would Salah agree to a wage reduction? There is literally no reason for him to do that.

It is fairly surprising that it seems we want to keep him. Would expect the nerds to want to stamp their authority on the squad again.

[Razors Razor]

Not fussed if he's sold or if he stays - as long as we buy someone to compete for that spot. We're desperately thin on right wing, it's basically Salah or Elliot who really isn't a winger. So whatever we do - please buy another player with pace who can take on defenders. It will be better for everyone, Salah included if he stays.

Doak was getting game time until his injury.

[terry_macss_perm]

Where has this talk of a wage reduction come from?

There are rumours of a contract extension so, logically, that would be at a reduced wage. There’s no way his form justifies his salary and there’s a fair chance that he’s in an age related decline.

It’s also unlikely that he’d accept a reduced wage given the money he could earn in Saudi.

Maybe it’s an exit strategy for both parties. We offer an extension. He declines so we say that, realistically, we have to sell this summer rather than let him go for nothing.

[BCCC]

Can't understand any shout to play him as a 10. He's not got that in his locker.

[beardsley4ever]

Not fussed if he's sold or if he stays - as long as we buy someone to compete for that spot. We're desperately thin on right wing, it's basically Salah or Elliot who really isn't a winger. So whatever we do - please buy another player with pace who can take on defenders. It will be better for everyone, Salah included if he stays.

100% in this camp.

[stockdam]

He’s still a good player but has struggled the last few games. Unfortunately it is time to bring in a replacement. He’s still a legend no matter what happens as his record is second to none.

[SamLad]

He’s still a good player but has struggled the last few games. Unfortunately it is time to bring in a replacement. He’s still a legend no matter what happens as his record is second to none.

struggled in a few games, so it's time to get rid?  god almighty.

you'd last about a month as a manager with an approach like that.

[Sinyoro]

Can't understand any shout to play him as a 10. He's not got that in his locker.

He can but it's not his best position.

He had a devastating partnership with Edin Dzeko at Roma where he played as a 10

[LiverBirdKop]

I love Mo, he has been incredible for us. His numbers are insane, and he's a club legend.

Looking at the seismic change approaching us with a new head coach/manager coming in, we will need to spend a lot of cash to get this new chapter started. I say this with a knot in my stomach but it's probably best for the club to sell him now while we can still get a good decent price for him.

[Kashinoda]

Premier League this calendar year.

Haaland
7 goals 1 assist
Missed 1 game

Salah
5 goals, 2 assists
Missed 6 games

Both were the top scorers going into the new year, only one had AFCON and multiple injuries since.

Maybe City should sell the robot as he's fallen off a cliff or something

[BCCC]

He can but it's not his best position.

He had a devastating partnership with Edin Dzeko at Roma where he played as a 10

Not in this league where he hasn't played it in 7 years. He doesn't see the pictures, have the close control or see the pass let alone be able to execute it.

[smutchin]

There are rumours of a contract extension so, logically, that would be at a reduced wage.

Right, so the talk is based purely on “logic” rather than actual info. Gotcha.

[Coolie High]

Not in this league where he hasn't played it in 7 years. He doesn't see the pictures, have the close control or see the pass let alone be able to execute it.

I think you’ve been watching a different footballer, because he is undoubtedly one of the best final third passers in the league probably only bettered by De Bruyne Bruno and Odegaard.

[Coolie High]

Premier League this calendar year.

Haaland
7 goals 1 assist
Missed 1 game

Salah
5 goals, 2 assists
Missed 6 games

Both were the top scorers going into the new year, only one had AFCON and multiple injuries since.

Maybe City should sell the robot as he's fallen off a cliff or something

Interesting isn’t it.

[BCCC]

I think you’ve been watching a different footballer, because he is undoubtedly one of the best final third passers in the league probably only bettered by De Bruyne Bruno and Odegaard.

Not from a 10 position

[Coolie High]

Not from a 10 position

A lot of it is from the same areas, do you think Odegaard just sticks in one position or something? A lot of these players best work is coming from the same areas, I wouldn’t want Salah as a 10, but he most certainly has the passing and close control for it.

[faisfais]

Who would take them instead? Mac Allister?

My question is more directed to how many non-penalty goals would be sufficient from Mo to justify a new contract:

In this season, non-penalty goals by LFC forwards:

Nunez - 17
Salah - 16
Jota - 15
Gakpo - 14
Diaz - 13

[Coolie High]

My question is more directed to how many non-penalty goals would be sufficient from Mo to justify a new contract:

In this season, non-penalty goals by LFC forwards:

Nunez - 17
Salah - 16
Jota - 15
Gakpo - 14
Diaz - 13

He creates chances more than every single player on that list.

[Eeyore]

He can but it's not his best position.

He had a devastating partnership with Edin Dzeko at Roma where he played as a 10

He didn't play as a 10 at Roma. He played as a wide forward.

[BCCC]

A lot of it is from the same areas, do you think Odegaard just sticks in one position or something? A lot of these players best work is coming from the same areas, I wouldn’t want Salah as a 10, but he most certainly has the passing and close control for it.

Time will tell but on current form he's miles off

[Eeyore]

He creates chances more than every single player on that list.

He also has very little defensive responsibilities.

[faisfais]

He creates chances more than every single player on that list.

Assists this season:

Nunez - 13
Salah - 13
Jota - 5
Gakpo - 4
Diaz - 5

[classycarra]

Not in this league where he hasn't played it in 7 years. He doesn't see the pictures, have the close control or see the pass let alone be able to execute it.

considering this idea of yours that Salah hasn't got close control, a great passing abliity and the vision to make intricate passes high up the pitch -  plus the way you hype Endo as a first choice midfielder who improves Mac - honestly has me questioning what games of ours you watch!

Why would Salah agree to a wage reduction? There is literally no reason for him to do that.

there literally are many reasons!

have you seriously never hear of senior sports people on huge contracts agreeing to a lower income, in order to preserves their place in a competitive team? it happens quite a lot.

sports teams also tend to want to pay their players less money when they start to play fewer games too, which feels likely of 32-34 year old Salah compared to his high number of appearances on his last two contracts. so if he wants to stay, and the club is only willing to offer an extension on a lower salary, then that's just one of the many reasons

[BCCC]

considering this idea of yours that Salah hasn't got close control, a great passing abliity and the vision to make intricate passes high up the pitch -  plus the way you hype Endo as a first choice midfielder who improves Mac - honestly has me questioning what games of ours you watch!
there literally are many reasons!

Never said he doesn't have close control, I said he can't play the 10, he's no right foot for a start so won't be able to make quick passes from the left.

[Kashinoda]

Assists this season:

Nunez - 13
Salah - 13
Jota - 5
Gakpo - 4
Diaz - 5

We all know Salah should have at least 10 additional assists here

[classycarra]

Never said he doesn't have close control, I said he can't play the 10, he's no right foot for a start so won't be able to make quick passes from the left.

No right foot Again, are you sure you're looking at the right player? He's the one with the curly hair..

You make him sound like Riise! Obviously prefers his left, almost to a fault, but has a lovely right foot when he's got to use it.

[BCCC]

No right foot Again, are you sure you're looking at the right player? He's the one with the curly hair..

You make him sound like Riise! Obviously prefers his left, almost to a fault, but has a lovely right foot when he's got to use it.

We'll see

[smutchin]

have you seriously never hear of senior sports people on huge contracts agreeing to a lower income, in order to preserves their place in a competitive team? it happens quite a lot.

If this was last summer and we were talking about Milner and Henderson, I could believe it. Feels a bit premature to be putting Salah in that category.

[Sinyoro]

Not in this league where he hasn't played it in 7 years. He doesn't see the pictures, have the close control or see the pass let alone be able to execute it.

Have a look at his goals against City, Palace and Spurs

[Sinyoro]

He didn't play as a 10 at Roma. He played as a wide forward.

He played many games behind Dzeko

[BCCC]

Have a look at his goals against City, Palace and Spurs

Different position, he has to see it all as a 10. There's a reason Klopp doesn't play him anywhere bar left side or up front.

[Sinyoro]

Never said he doesn't have close control, I said he can't play the 10, he's no right foot for a start so won't be able to make quick passes from the left.

Seriously ?

[Sinyoro]

No right foot Again, are you sure you're looking at the right player? He's the one with the curly hair..

You make him sound like Riise! Obviously prefers his left, almost to a fault, but has a lovely right foot when he's got to use it.

I am beginning to question how much s/he understands the game

[faisfais]

We all know Salah should have at least 10 additional assists here

Hehe.. and that is why I personally don't like following football with stats. A lot of Salah fans will always revert back to his goals + assists statistics to defend him. I on the other hand, look more at the general play and attitude. In terms of all round play... defensively closing down, being a general menace and offensively scoring clutch winning goals, I would argue Nunez has been better than Salah this year - but statistics will show Salah has a better G+A contribution than Nunez.

The problem I have with Salah is simple. He does not see himself as a system player. anymore What I mean by that is as follows:

In the beginning of Klopp's journey, Salah, Firmino & Mane formed the attacking system.. Gegenpressing monsters. They all worked in a system. This is why without Firmino and Salah, we could overcome Barcelona - the system was the KEY player. Ever since the 2020-21 season, for reasons that probably made more sense back then, we moved away from system to a more talent-oriented team. Therefore the reliance on Thiago, Diaz, Mane, Nunez, Salah, Jota & more recently Trent to individually win games with their exceptional talent. There is no problem with that - UNTIL the individuals entrusted cannot deliver. This is what I assume happened this season. With mid-season injuries, we reverted to the "system" with younger players like Clark, Danns, Quansah, Bradley, McConnell providing great support to the "system" recruits like Macca and Endo. As soon as the "talent" returned we were unable to win anymore. This is my opinion.

The reason why I don't want Salah (and also Trent) to get new contracts is because I want them to be systems players they were when Klopp introduced them.  I just don't see them being that anymore. Maybe, they will both prove me wrong and completely trust the Slot experiment.

[Kalito]

A phenomenal player - but he can go now. I really don’t give a shit how he felt yesterday - to disrespect the man who made you in public, deliberately, is unforgivable.

Thanks Mo, but don’t let the door hit you on your arse. You can go and join the plethora of fantastic footballers who have represented this club, but have massive chips on their shoulders 

Jurgen Klopp is a thousand times the man you could ever dream to be.

Get fucked.

[BCCC]

I am beginning to question how much s/he understands the game

Been watching and playing it for 50 years but it's opinions. I doubt you'll see Salah play the 10 but we'll see if he does.

[Kalito]

I'm amazed so many people are straw manning the shit out of this... imagine quote posting James Pearce and his desperate attempts to cling on to relevance by hyping everything to shit (is there a single lfc journo that actually operates in the clubs best interests?)

Why isn't it possible to think he was out of order yesterday but that losing your rag with someone isn't actually that big a deal compared to years of not only a good relationship but also incredible success?

Fuck me if you all applied this standard to your personal life you'd all be dying alone

Spot on.

Pathetic the way this whole thing is carrying on.