Topic: Juve will not pay Aquilani asking price

[John C]

I love Mac_ Red he just pisses me off at times 

I love his name, when did he get that mate. Got to be VdM that.

[Dowling10]

Would be great if Aqua comes back. It gives us options. It gvives us a player who has CREATIVITY, something the team really needs. You can see what a creative player like Suarez can do. Now bring a creative player to the midfield. It means we don't have to buy anyone for the midfield and it is settled. If we sell him we will likely go for another midfielder but that would be a shame cause Aqua already knows what it is like playing in the Premier League which is really important for the upcoming season. Players who know what the game in England is about. Also we will have more depth, and real quality in depth, it's not just like putting players up there so there is depth, no it is quality. We really need that depth. It doesn't mean Aqua is a starter, he has to earn his spot, but'I'm certain he will.

We definitely need depth.

[Wasted]

Getting Aqua back would be like a summer signing in itself, so long as he's willing to come into the team and work.

Suddenly we will have fortified our central midfield even farther with a player who offers something different than the likes of Spearing and Lucas.

That would mean that extra money could be spent on getting another good wide player and definitely getting another CB.

[BeautifulGame91]

Would be great if Aqua comes back. It gives us options. It gvives us a player who has CREATIVITY, something the team really needs. You can see what a creative player like Suarez can do. Now bring a creative player to the midfield. It means we don't have to buy anyone for the midfield and it is settled. If we sell him we will likely go for another midfielder but that would be a shame cause Aqua already knows what it is like playing in the Premier League which is really important for the upcoming season. Players who know what the game in England is about. Also we will have more depth, and real quality in depth, it's not just like putting players up there so there is depth, no it is quality. We really need that depth. It doesn't mean Aqua is a starter, he has to earn his spot, but'I'm certain he will.

We have to buy DM to cover Lucas regardless of what happens with Aquilani . Also i dont think we need to sign a CM if Aquilani is sold . We have Gerrard Spearing Meireles and even Lucas who can all play in CM more than enough options . If Aquilani returns he is a luxury we can afford but he is still a luxury squad play .

[ryatnalkar]

We have to buy DM to cover Lucas regardless of what happens with Aquilani . Also i dont think we need to sign a CM if Aquilani is sold . We have Gerrard Spearing Meireles and even Lucas who can all play in CM more than enough options . If Aquilani returns he is a luxury we can afford but he is still a luxury squad play .

That would have been true if a certain wee Jay hadnt done so superbly for last couple of months. Gerrard and him are pretty capable of sharing that duty.

[BeautifulGame91]

That would have been true if a certain wee Jay hadnt done so superbly for last couple of months. Gerrard and him are pretty capable of sharing that duty.

how many times have u seen Spearing or Gerrard play without a DM to come to this judgement . The fact is Spearing only flourished playing alongside a DM in Lucas . So it is huge risk  to  go in with Spearing as cover for Lucas considering he has never played in that position . Remember Luca will be playing in Copa America so will be without pre-season rest which makes it even more imperative to have cover for Lucas .

[ryatnalkar]

how many times have u seen Spearing or Gerrard play without a DM to come to this judgement . The fact is Spearing only flourished playing alongside a DM in Lucas . So it is huge risk  to  go in with Spearing as cover for Lucas considering he has never played in that position . Remember Luca will be playing in Copa America so will be without pre-season rest which makes it even more imperative to have cover for Lucas .

Its not a like for like replacement. I am just saying before the rise of Spearing, there was less chance of bringing Aquilani back because we would have to buy a DM/ competition for Lucas. But with Spearing and with the system Kenny is playing, we might rest Lucas against some teams where a midfield of Aqua/Gerrard/Spearing or Aqua/Gerrard/Meireles or Aqua/Spearing/Meireles might work. We also might play Aurelio there for some games just to get Lucas rested. If we press like we are doing now, Aqua with his vision and little more pressing can be a top top player and he isn't as bad as doing defensive duties as people will make you believe. Anyway, Poulsen will be heading out and we might go for a strong DM to compete with Lucas or we might just bring Aqua back and Kenny will have a look and take it from there or might have both on our squad. Top sides have a lot of options in the middle. Also, I have heard couple of really good midfielders in the Academy right now, no?

[BeautifulGame91]

Its not a like for like replacement. I am just saying before the rise of Spearing, there was less chance of bringing Aquilani back because we would have to buy a DM/ competition for Lucas. But with Spearing and with the system Kenny is playing, we might rest Lucas against some teams where a midfield of Aqua/Gerrard/Spearing or Aqua/Gerrard/Meireles or Aqua/Spearing/Meireles might work. We also might play Aurelio there for some games just to get Lucas rested. If we press like we are doing now, Aqua with his vision and little more pressing can be a top top player and he isn't as bad as doing defensive duties as people will make you believe. Anyway, Poulsen will be heading out and we might go for a strong DM to compete with Lucas or we might just bring Aqua back and Kenny will have a look and take it from there or might have both on our squad. Top sides have a lot of options in the middle. Also, I have heard couple of really good midfielders in the Academy right now, no?

The fact is Spearing has never filled the DM . So i dont think Kenny will go in with Spearing as cover for Lucas . Its more like Spearing will be cover for Gerrard . A midfield of Gerrard Aquilani will never work because its too open . Aquilani is not bad at tackling but he is neither at the level of a DM .i am 100% sure we will buy a DM when/if Poulsen goes .

Also the rise of Spearing means we dont need Aquilani necessarily not a defensive midfielder . Neither is Spearing nor is Aquilani a proven DM .

I would ask u simple question if u cant make up urself about DM.

How many times have u seen Gerrard Aquilani Meireles or Spearing playing without a DM ? However good u are in creativity u need a CM like Lucas who is great at winning back possesion .

[ryatnalkar]

The fact is Spearing has never filled the DM . So i dont think Kenny will go in with Spearing as cover for Lucas . Its more like Spearing will be cover for Gerrard . A midfield of Gerrard Aquilani will never work because its too open . Aquilani is not bad at tackling but he is neither at the level of a DM .i am 100% sure we will buy a DM when/if Poulsen goes .

Also the rise of Spearing means we dont need Aquilani necessarily not a defensive midfielder . Neither is Spearing nor is Aquilani a proven DM .

I would ask u simple question if u cant make up urself about DM.

How many times have u seen Gerrard Aquilani Meireles or Spearing playing without a DM ? However good u are in creativity u need a CM like Lucas who is great at winning back possesion .

May be you are right. Perhaps, deep inside my mind, I just really badly want Aquilani to come back! But when we sign a DM, it shouldnt be cover for Lucas but competition. With that, I think the chance of signing Aquilani back might have gone for a toss.

[Aquilani 4]

agent : Aquilani open to a return to Liverpool

Juventus AQUILANI LIVERPOOL - Alberto Aquilani's agent, Frank Zavala, speaking on Sport Mediaset, spoke about the future of Juventus midfielder open to a return to Liverpool: "Juve wants to redeem Aquilani, but wants a discount from Liverpool on a figure which is actually a bit 'greedy. Then it is clear that Alberto, should return to one of the best teams in the Premier could not be unhappy, has signed a 5 year contract with Liverpool. The important thing is making a good season and have swept away the rumors of a player always broken. "

http://www.calciomercatonews.com/ultime-notizie/2011/05/13/calciomercato-juventus-lag-di-aquilani-apre-ad-un-ritorno-a-liverpool/

[rob1408]

agent : Aquilani open to a return to Liverpool

Juventus AQUILANI LIVERPOOL - Alberto Aquilani's agent, Frank Zavala, speaking on Sport Mediaset, spoke about the future of Juventus midfielder open to a return to Liverpool: "Juve wants to redeem Aquilani, but wants a discount from Liverpool on a figure which is actually a bit 'greedy. Then it is clear that Alberto, should return to one of the best teams in the Premier could not be unhappy, has signed a 5 year contract with Liverpool. The important thing is making a good season and have swept away the rumors of a player always broken. "

http://www.calciomercatonews.com/ultime-notizie/2011/05/13/calciomercato-juventus-lag-di-aquilani-apre-ad-un-ritorno-a-liverpool/

Maybe they should of mentioned that they thought the fee was 'a bit greedy' when they signed the terms of his loan ?

[Aido LFC]

agent : Aquilani open to a return to Liverpool

Juventus AQUILANI LIVERPOOL - Alberto Aquilani's agent, Frank Zavala, speaking on Sport Mediaset, spoke about the future of Juventus midfielder open to a return to Liverpool: "Juve wants to redeem Aquilani, but wants a discount from Liverpool on a figure which is actually a bit 'greedy. Then it is clear that Alberto, should return to one of the best teams in the Premier could not be unhappy, has signed a 5 year contract with Liverpool. The important thing is making a good season and have swept away the rumors of a player always broken. "

http://www.calciomercatonews.com/ultime-notizie/2011/05/13/calciomercato-juventus-lag-di-aquilani-apre-ad-un-ritorno-a-liverpool/

Greedy? Juve can piss off

[Djimothy]

1155 BST: Real Madrid have turned down an offer of 30m euros (£26.4m) from Juventus for French striker Karim Benzema. (La Gazzetta dello Sport)

There goes the thoery Juve can't buy him because they're skint.

[Jellies]

1155 BST: Real Madrid have turned down an offer of 30m euros (£26.4m) from Juventus for French striker Karim Benzema. (La Gazzetta dello Sport)

There goes the thoery Juve can't buy him because they're skint.

What the fuck??! Never saw that coming.

I'm sure we'll sell him at the price we want. To Milan or Juve, I don't give a tiny rat's ass.

[colden]

agent : Aquilani open to a return to Liverpool

Juventus AQUILANI LIVERPOOL - Alberto Aquilani's agent, Frank Zavala, speaking on Sport Mediaset, spoke about the future of Juventus midfielder open to a return to Liverpool: "Juve wants to redeem Aquilani, but wants a discount from Liverpool on a figure which is actually a bit 'greedy. Then it is clear that Alberto, should return to one of the best teams in the Premier could not be unhappy, has signed a 5 year contract with Liverpool. The important thing is making a good season and have swept away the rumors of a player always broken. "

Just one word ...... Poulsen!!!!!  and they call us greedy 

They've had AA on a free loan for a year. Part of that agreement was a fixed final price if they wanted to take him permanently after the loan expired. They negotiated the deal & were happy with the price. Who are the ones being greedy?

[stevedo]

The price was agreed upfront, how can it be greedy? Either pay it, or don't, but don't go all revisionist. Can't believe im letting this saga wind me to still. 

[rastaferio]

1155 BST: Real Madrid have turned down an offer of 30m euros (£26.4m) from Juventus for French striker Karim Benzema. (La Gazzetta dello Sport)

There goes the thoery Juve can't buy him because they're skint.

It's already been mentioned that they are getting a cash injection of nearly 100-120m in the summer (or so the reports say). Theres no shortage of money at Juve. They just dont value him at 16m.

[Dowling10]

agent : Aquilani open to a return to Liverpool

Juventus AQUILANI LIVERPOOL - Alberto Aquilani's agent, Frank Zavala, speaking on Sport Mediaset, spoke about the future of Juventus midfielder open to a return to Liverpool: "Juve wants to redeem Aquilani, but wants a discount from Liverpool on a figure which is actually a bit 'greedy. Then it is clear that Alberto, should return to one of the best teams in the Premier could not be unhappy, has signed a 5 year contract with Liverpool. The important thing is making a good season and have swept away the rumors of a player always broken. "

http://www.calciomercatonews.com/ultime-notizie/2011/05/13/calciomercato-juventus-lag-di-aquilani-apre-ad-un-ritorno-a-liverpool/

I doubt he was saying it was a bit greedy when we bought Aquilani for 18m euro's from Roma was he?

[BeautifulGame91]

1155 BST: Real Madrid have turned down an offer of 30m euros (£26.4m) from Juventus for French striker Karim Benzema. (La Gazzetta dello Sport)

There goes the thoery Juve can't buy him because they're skint.

La Gazzetta dello Sport  as the only source ? More likely to be rubbish . Talk Sport and Goal.com are more reliable than that. They said Juventus has all but signed Dzeko last january before he went to City . His agent then revealed Juve didnt even made a reasonable bid  to sign Dzeko .

[theparrot]

Pirlo denies he has agreed a move to Juve. Says he would be happy to stay at Milan.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/soccer/05/13/pirlo.milan.ap/index.html


MILAN (AP) -- AC Milan midfielder Andrea Pirlo has echoed Clarence Seedorf's sentiments to become the second player in two days to declare his desire to remain with the newly crowned Italian champion.

The 2006 World Cup winner has been strongly linked with a move to Juventus when his contract runs out at the end of the season, with some reports claiming a deal has already been agreed.

"It's not true about Juventus. If I had already signed with Juventus then why would I need to talk to Milan,'' Pirlo told Friday's Corriere dello Sera. "I'd spend another 10 years here at Milan.''

On Thursday, Seedorf hit out at the club's hierarchy for not having offered him a new contract. Massimo Ambrosini and Alessandro Nesta are also waiting to hear if their contracts will be extended when they run out at the end of June.

"I'll be speaking with Milan vice president Adriano Galliani in the coming days and then we'll make a decision,'' Pirlo said. "However, both parties have to agree. If there are the right conditions in place and if they are happy then I would be happy to stay.''

Much of Milan's success in recent years has been built on elongating its older players' careers, but now many fans feel that at over 30 years of age, the senior players should be shown the exit.

Pirlo missed four months through injury this season, Nesta missed three and Ambrosini two.
"It's now the time for the club to let us know of their intentions,'' Pirlo said. "Everyone is free to make their own decision. If there is no more room for the old guard then that's no problem.

"But I still feel young, I feel as if I can play at the highest level for another three or four years. That's why a one-year contract makes no sense.''

[harleydanger]

Maybe they should of mentioned that they thought the fee was 'a bit greedy' when they signed the terms of his loan ?

Greedy? Juve can piss off

Just one word ...... Poulsen!!!!!  and they call us greedy 

They've had AA on a free loan for a year. Part of that agreement was a fixed final price if they wanted to take him permanently after the loan expired. They negotiated the deal & were happy with the price. Who are the ones being greedy?

I read it as him saying Juve are being greedy trying to get a discount. Which would make sense since he is his agent.

[Aido LFC]

I read it as him saying Juve are being greedy trying to get a discount. Which would make sense since he is his agent.

The only reason his agent wants him to move is so he can get a nice paycheck aswell

[GrkStav]

Also the rise of Spearing means we dont need Aquilani

Taken a bit out of context but . . . have a word!

[Wabaloolah]

I don't see where he would fit into the current team at the moment, he'd be a useful squad player but don't think he'd be happy with getting splinters in his arse, looking at our midfield and forwards - Maxi, Lucas, Gerrard, Raul, Spearing, Kuyt, Carroll and Suarez, exactly where is he going to fit into the team.

A useful player to have on the bench but he ain't going to replace Lucas, Gerrard Meireles or Kuyt who all have signed recent contracts, Maxi has found a rich vein on form and will probably be held onto.  I don't think Aqua would add too much to the first XI and personally think he will be sold

[Red Beret]

If it was greedy, why agree to pay it?  Shysters. 

[BeautifulGame91]

Taken a bit out of context but . . . have a word!

Not sure what u are exactly meaning ?

[newterp]

does anyone really care what Juve says?

[Caligula_10]

La Gazzetta dello Sport  as the only source ? More likely to be rubbish . Talk Sport and Goal.com are more reliable than that. They said Juventus has all but signed Dzeko last january before he went to City . His agent then revealed Juve didnt even made a reasonable bid  to sign Dzeko .

That's just not right. They have a pretty good reputation in Italy and most papers get stuff wrong from time to time.

[Velky Al]

can we change the title of the thread?

Juve are not refusing to pay the "asking" price, they are refusing to pay the "agreed" price.

[BeautifulGame91]

That's just not right. They have a pretty good reputation in Italy and most papers get stuff wrong from time to time.

Maybe i am wrong about their credentials but they more often than not come up fantasy stories particularly about Juve . Also this story is based on the simple fact that Juve MD met Real MD to learn about how to develop juventus marketing in overseas markets .

[Fordy]

agent : Aquilani open to a return to Liverpool

Juventus AQUILANI LIVERPOOL - Alberto Aquilani's agent, Frank Zavala, speaking on Sport Mediaset, spoke about the future of Juventus midfielder open to a return to Liverpool: "Juve wants to redeem Aquilani, but wants a discount from Liverpool on a figure which is actually a bit 'greedy. Then it is clear that Alberto, should return to one of the best teams in the Premier could not be unhappy, has signed a 5 year contract with Liverpool. The important thing is making a good season and have swept away the rumors of a player always broken. "

http://www.calciomercatonews.com/ultime-notizie/2011/05/13/calciomercato-juventus-lag-di-aquilani-apre-ad-un-ritorno-a-liverpool/

Nothing new.

His agent said this months ago.

This thread is getting as bad a the Barry thread - round, round and round.

Same old shit(MAC_RED  ) different day

[blert596]

Glad your back on Fordy. Do me a favour, can you answer Mac Reds point about players "wanting" to be at Liverpool?

I've put Andy's quotes in my previous post for you.

Ta

[Pata]

I can imagine! Argentina's youngsters are better at the moment anyway! 

Iturbe, Funes Mori, and Lamela are where it's at.

Sources in South America are strongly linking Lamela (playing in the Superclasico tomorrow) with Juventus - presumably, it's going to be one of him or Aquilani at Juventus next season but not both.

[Fordy]

Glad your back on Fordy. Do me a favour, can you answer Mac Reds point about players "wanting" to be at Liverpool?

I've put Andy's quotes in my previous post for you.

Ta

Your welcome. Glad your still around on Rawk too.

What points would you like me to answer my friend?

[BeautifulGame91]

Sources in South America are strongly linking Lamela (playing in the Superclasico tomorrow) with Juventus - presumably, it's going to be one of him or Aquilani at Juventus next season but not both.

Isnt Lamela also linked with Milan as an alternative if they cant sign Ganso ?

[Juan Loco]

Taken a bit out of context but . . . have a word!

Exactly.

Everyone knows it's Shelvey that will render Aquilani redundant.

[Fordy]

Sources in South America are strongly linking Lamela (playing in the Superclasico tomorrow) with Juventus - presumably, it's going to be one of him or Aquilani at Juventus next season but not both.

  Pirlo says he wants to stay at Milan - and within hours this shit comes out and you have been suckered.

It is clear that Juve are trying to do this deal through the media. One think for sure The Old Lady is dirty.

[GrkStav]

Exactly.

Everyone knows it's Shelvey that will render Aquilani redundant.

or Gerrard, for that matter.

If Shelvey doesn't self-destruct, he clearly can be a star of the Gerrard variety (i.e. not the metronome variety, but the improvisational, inspirational leader variety).

[GrkStav]

You're welcome to clarify any and all points regarding Mac_Red, Fordy.

[Fordy]

You're welcome to clarify any and all points regarding Mac_Red, Fordy.

What points are these mate?