Topic: Man City - Cheating Bastards on & off the pitch - 115 Charges

[Son of Spion]

These desperate motherfuckers. 

Can they get any more smalltime? 

Talk about insecure.

[Black Bull Nova]

They remind me of some bully that walks into a kids party and, instead of playing by the rules, snatches the prizes and won't give them back. Everbody knows what they have means nothing but they desperately cling on to them in the hope people will think they are really successful and liked by all, they are not, no-one likes City, no-one and no-one respects them except those on the payroll and the thick.

[Tokyoite]

 

[RedSince86]

What a pathetic paranoid cringe club they are.

Definitely Khaldoon's doing no doubt.

They're trying to build this rivalry with us to validate them as an authentic Football club.

[MonsLibpool]

What a pathetic paranoid cringe club they are.

Definitely Khaldoon's doing no doubt.

They're trying to build this rivalry with us to validate them as an authentic Football club.

It's cringe how they are trying to force a rivalry.  Everybody knows that their success is hollow.

[rodderzzz]

Chelsea did the same thing, worse thing is when some of our support buy into it. Only Everton and United matter, the rest are nothing but competition for trophies

[FiSh77]

These desperate motherfuckers. 

Hope our lads made some noise for them when they got off

[JRed]

Bloody hell. It’s like the club is run by one of the residents of blueloon. They are truly pathetic

Although, their treble was an amazing achievement and I think we really should give them credit for it.
For me, it was right up there with Lance Armstrong’s 7 Tour de France wins and Ben Johnson’s 100m world record.

[PhilV]

Can they get any more smalltime? 

Talk about insecure.

Hope they felt cool leaving in their big team bus after a 2-0 loss.

[Crosby Nick]

Bloody hell. It’s like the club is run by one of the residents of blueloon. They are truly pathetic

Although, their treble was an amazing achievement and I think we really should give them credit for it.
For me, it was right up there with Lance Armstrong’s 7 Tour de France wins and Ben Johnson’s 100m world record.

Not strictly true. I remember actually feeling some kind of emotion watching by that Ben Johnson race (it was pretty amazing, let’s face it ).

[rob1966]

These desperate motherfuckers. 

[Andy @ Allerton!]

As if we give a shite about these nothing wankers.

[MJD-L4]

Fucking pretenders is what they are. They try so desperately hard to act like a big club & manufacture rivalries but the problem is, they're not a big club & they don't know how a big club is supposed to operate.

If I were a genuine (pre 2008) City fan, I'd be deeply embarrassed over what that "club" has become.

[FiSh77]

You might laugh but they brought Ray Von with them and waited for a couple of arl dears to walk past with their shopping to give them the full first team treatment

[Son of Spion]

Hope they felt cool leaving in their big team bus after a 2-0 loss.

They are so achingly embarrassing. I think the problem is they do actually know what they are, but they don't know how to react to the fact. This leaves them fumbling about making embarrassing move after embarrassing move. They aren't a big club, and they don't know how to act like a big club either. It's actually comical to witness. They are incredibly insecure. It's a weird mix of imposter syndrome and misplaced superiority complex which sees them lurching from one embarrassment to the next.

[jillcwhomever]

Another journalist confirming that the hearing is set to be this autumn, it is definitely being shared by more people now.

[Black Bull Nova]

Although, their treble was an amazing achievement and I think we really should give them credit for it.
For me, it was right up there with Lance Armstrong’s 7 Tour de France wins and Ben Johnson’s 100m world record.

So, no credit then?

[slaphead]

Another journalist confirming that the hearing is set to be this autumn, it is definitely being shared by more people now.

Maybe its wishful thinking but I think this could be absolutely massive, as in they may get the severe punishment that they deserve. As others have said, its a once only chance for the Premier League to show in this league it's not the tail wagging the dog. If they lose this one then it's goodnight Vienna.
All this love they crave and this desperation to be seen as a big club. It's pathetic because of what it's built on. Pull the rug from that and they'd scatter like teenagers at a party when the peelers turn up

[SamLad]

Maybe its wishful thinking but I think this could be absolutely massive, as in they may get the severe punishment that they deserve. As others have said, its a once only chance for the Premier League to show in this league it's not the tail wagging the dog. If they lose this one then it's goodnight Vienna.
All this love they crave and this desperation to be seen as a big club. It's pathetic because of what it's built on. Pull the rug from that and they'd scatter like teenagers at a party when the peelers turn up

and we'll be inundated with journos and pundits saying "well I certainly knew what was going on all along, I never really thought much of them" bullshit.

[slaphead]

and we'll be inundated with journos and pundits saying "well I certainly knew what was going on all along, I never really thought much of them" bullshit.

Yep. Just like they did with Abramovich at Chelsea. Couldn't get in fast enough to the media area for the free food and drinks. Going on about how good they on the pitch and how good their hospitality is. Too much has been said about City by the lot of them. They'll distance themselves and Neville and Carragher will be the 2 loudest voices and all

[jillcwhomever]

There have been some good work by some journalists on this, also if the case gets proved more will begin to speak out anyway. What complicates things are City deny the charges. Which means most newspapers will only go very big on the story once it's been officially proven. It's mainly the Manchester journalist and people like Samuels who I have any real dislike for over this.

[Barneylfc∗]

Maybe its wishful thinking but I think this could be absolutely massive, as in they may get the severe punishment that they deserve. As others have said, its a once only chance for the Premier League to show in this league it's not the tail wagging the dog. If they lose this one then it's goodnight Vienna.
All this love they crave and this desperation to be seen as a big club. It's pathetic because of what it's built on. Pull the rug from that and they'd scatter like teenagers at a party when the peelers turn up

What they deserve is expulsion from the Premier League and stripping of all league titles and cups they've won in England. That won't happen.
I think we'll see something like a 15-20 point deduction, not enough to keep them out of a CL spot for a season, and a fine of a few million quid. Ultimately it'll all be worth it for them.

I do hope I'm wrong though, but I've no faith in the Premier League given they allowed it all to happen in the first place.

[.adam]

Whatever the result of the hearing, they'll appeal it and it won't be resolved for at least a couple of years, probably with some watered down version of the original punishment.

I also wouldn't be surprised if the punishment is largely financial in nature which will take the piss even more.

[rob1966]

Whatever the result of the hearing, they'll appeal it and it won't be resolved for at least a couple of years, probably with some watered down version of the original punishment.

I also wouldn't be surprised if the punishment is largely financial in nature which will take the piss even more.

That's the one thing I'm not expecting, as the PL could have just whacked a £200m fine on them at the start and saved themselves a shit load of grief and work.

[BigCDump]

So, no credit then?

I remember watching live as Ben Johnson tore away from Carl Lewis. My jaw hit the floor and I still haven't forgotten that feeling of amazement.

So I guess City have that. The memories.

[rob1966]

I remember watching live as Ben Johnson tore away from Carl Lewis. My jaw hit the floor and I still haven't forgotten that feeling of amazement.

So I guess City have that. The memories.

Then we found out he was a cheating bastard and it was like "fucking c*nt". Same as that Armstrong, respect turned to fuck you, you fake cheating twat.

ADFC fans shouting "Hurrah" as they downed pints of water, classic memories for them

[Schmidt]

That's the one thing I'm not expecting, as the PL could have just whacked a £200m fine on them at the start and saved themselves a shit load of grief and work.

I think for City it's important to be seen as not cheating, so I actually think they would have fought tooth and nail against a fine.  It would confirm their status as cheats and get mentioned by most media outlets every time they "achieve" something.

[.adam]

That's the one thing I'm not expecting, as the PL could have just whacked a £200m fine on them at the start and saved themselves a shit load of grief and work.

You have more faith in the process than I do.

I suspect a big penalty will be seen as "cracking down" on them but is simultaneously palatable to City who have a bottomless pit of cash so in effect it works for both parties.

Don't forget they were fined 10m EUR for breaching UEFA's FFP rules last time.

[Zlen]

Financial fine will not fly.
Everton and others were fully cooperating and were docked points.
City have not been cooperating at all. They took that gamble, but if it backfires they are up shit creek.

Their punishment must include full cooperation and release of all documents.
Which would basically end them as a club.

[rob1966]

I think for City it's important to be seen as not cheating, so I actually think they would have fought tooth and nail against a fine.  It would confirm their status as cheats and get mentioned by most media outlets every time they "achieve" something.

They've happily paid them in the past. Does anyone even remember they were fined £49 million in 2014 by UEFA for FFP breaches and handed a transfer ban or that even though they got their CL ban overturned, they were still fined a reduced £8.6 million? A fine would be preferable for them, they're that rich, hundreds of billions rich, that can pay that without even noticing it and then would happily break the rules all over again, they'll only be stopped by a proper punishment.

[JRed]

The only suitable punishment is for them to be expelled from the league.

[Son of Spion]

The only suitable punishment is for them to be expelled from the league.

Definitely. Financial punishment is like giving Elon Musk a parking fine. Utterly pointless.
The crimes against the sport are also far too big for a points deduction to be anything like adequate.

The gravity of their cheating cannot be underestimated. They've systematically abused the sport. They've taken the piss on a grand scale and brought the integrity of the game into disrepute. It simply has to be the stripping of titles they've stolen, then expulsion from the Premier League. Nothing else fits the sheer scale of the crime.

[BigCDump]

Then we found out he was a cheating bastard and it was like "fucking c*nt". Same as that Armstrong, respect turned to fuck you, you fake cheating twat.

ADFC fans shouting "Hurrah" as they downed pints of water, classic memories for them

I will never forget those pints of water. 

[vblfc]

Was chatting to a (decent lad) United fan at the weekend. Surprised that he has no wish or expectation for any negative outcome for City. Has just accepted the way it has gone and wants to move on. Can’t be bothered with the 115 charges. I have to say that such apathy and a sort of “City aren’t real opponents” thinking will be a challenge. Along with the government pulling a political squeeze and the need for damage limitations to the “brand” for PL and Sky/BT.  All real concerns I think.
The current shitshow by Webb and the PGMOL has shown that, if you want to, you can just gaslight your way and any storyline somehow gets accepted because people actually like to see us (cartel?) beaten back, even if that’s through cheating.  They can grab and run with a “City and Pep are found not guilty by a reduced sentence” storyline, just as they have in the past.
I wouldn’t be surprised of government influence, a whitewashed “reduced sentence” and we will literally be told by Gary Neville and Carra to move on.

[vblfc]

The only suitable punishment is for them to be expelled from the league.

or this 👍🙏😁

[MJD-L4]

The only suitable punishment is for them to be expelled from the league.

Is right. There is no other punishment that would affect them. As others have said, any sort of fine would gladly be paid by them and not even make a dent in their finances. A points deduction probably wouldn't even keep them out of the top 4 & anything in between risks pissing off us, Arsenal & the red Mancs which the PL definitely won't want.

They simply must be kicked out of the PL. The EFL can then decide if they want to let them in at L2 level or not.

[koptommy93]

Was chatting to a (decent lad) United fan at the weekend. Surprised that he has no wish or expectation for any negative outcome for City. Has just accepted the way it has gone and wants to move on. Can’t be bothered with the 115 charges. I have to say that such apathy and a sort of “City aren’t real opponents” thinking will be a challenge. Along with the government pulling a political squeeze and the need for damage limitations to the “brand” for PL and Sky/BT.  All real concerns I think.
The current shitshow by Webb and the PGMOL has shown that, if you want to, you can just gaslight your way and any storyline somehow gets accepted because people actually like to see us (cartel?) beaten back, even if that’s through cheating.  They can grab and run with a “City and Pep are found not guilty by a reduced sentence” storyline, just as they have in the past.
I wouldn’t be surprised of government influence, a whitewashed “reduced sentence” and we will literally be told by Gary Neville and Carra to move on.

We will have a new government by the time they are punished

[jillcwhomever]

Considering more people are confirming the autumn for the hearing to take place I am wondering how they will look at the case. Will the actual date be announced before it starts? Will there be media coverage on the hearing, will journalists be allowed in to cover it? It's such a unique and important hearing and I am not sure even now, if people understand just how big this is.I will email Nick Harris and see if he has any idea.

[FiSh77]

Is right. There is no other punishment that would affect them. As others have said, any sort of fine would gladly be paid by them and not even make a dent in their finances. A points deduction probably wouldn't even keep them out of the top 4 & anything in between risks pissing off us, Arsenal & the red Mancs which the PL definitely won't want.

They simply must be kicked out of the PL. The EFL can then decide if they want to let them in at L2 level or not.

Will be great seeing them turn up at Grimsby in their 5 trophies bus

[MonsLibpool]

The only suitable punishment is for them to be expelled from the league.

Yeah. The punishment needs to severe enough to effectively eliminate the benefits gained from cheating.

If not, then there will be an incentive to cheat.