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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #13640 on: April 30, 2024, 10:34:29 am »
It's not about accepting being shite, it's about preaching patience. Long term, I'm sure everyone expects titles and trophies, but laying the foundations can be hard in the first year of managing a team.
Slot doesn't need to lay any foundations as the mansion is already built, he just needs to deal with a bit of snagging and keep on top of the maintenance.
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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #13641 on: April 30, 2024, 10:35:46 am »
A true 6 would be nice, for starters. I think many of our defensive issues stem from a lack of players in that position, or players in that position who shouldn't really be playing every match / are still adjusting to the league (like Endo). Saying that Klopp plays without this kind of players is nonsense. Just look at Fabinho.






I think there is a mentality shift thats needed as well, i just think the whole squad has lost the desire to defend really, really well. Look at Trent off the ball, he is practically a non-entity. On corners, its only Van Dijk that tries to be dominant.

Tactically as well, we need to look at it again. Clearly our 2 and 3 buildup does work in that we are still easy to get at during turnovers. I think its too simplistic to say a 6 sorts this, defending requires the whole team.

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« Reply #13642 on: April 30, 2024, 10:39:14 am »
If we were to finish 6th as an example, it probably depends as to how we got there as to how Slot will be received and how much pressure he will be under. If we're 6th for the entire season without any improvement, then there will obviously be calls for his head. However, if we end up 6th after being absolutely shit for the first half the season then going on title winning form for the 2nd half of the season then there will be much positivity around him.

One of the thing about Rodgers' first season was that we showed clear signs of improvement, which gave him some grace despite us not finishing in the top 4. Dalglish the year before finished in a similar place but we got worse as the season progressed.

Different scenarios though. Look at Rodgers team, he was starting the season with the likes of Suso, Sterling, Borini and Suarez as his attack. We can't compare it to the squad now. It was also a very different club and at that time top four was almost like a utopia for us, he wasnt under that much pressure.

We are in a much different place as a squad and club now. If we finished 6th then it doesn't matter how we finished, the season would have been utter shite. We would have been surpassed by 3 different clubs and very likely one or two with new managers themselves.

If we finish 6th then for me, Slot is 6 months of poor performance from the sack.

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« Reply #13643 on: April 30, 2024, 10:40:14 am »
Also, we need to return pushing the domestic cups to the bottom of our priorities. If we identify who will start the majority of league and CL games then those players should play no part in the domestic cups until at least the semi-final. We have really talented kids and we should trust them and if we go out we go out. I think we did Arsenal a favour by kicking them out of the FA Cup as they had more time to prepare for the league.

At least the League Cup.
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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #13644 on: April 30, 2024, 10:42:15 am »
If we finish 6th then for me, Slot is 6 months of poor performance from the sack.
I'd go even further and say mediocre or even inconsistent performance won't be sufficient.

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« Reply #13645 on: April 30, 2024, 10:42:40 am »
I think there is a mentality shift thats needed as well, i just think the whole squad has lost the desire to defend really, really well. Look at Trent off the ball, he is practically a non-entity. On corners, its only Van Dijk that tries to be dominant.
Indeed, Trent's performance during the derby was infuriating and emblematic of our defense this season. However, I do believe it all starts with a steadfast lock on the defensive door.
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« Reply #13646 on: April 30, 2024, 10:43:16 am »
At least the League Cup.
Yeah, wouldn't give up on the FA Cup too easily to be honest.
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« Reply #13647 on: April 30, 2024, 10:53:07 am »
Its in part due to our obsession with inverting the full backs. It forces the two of our central midfielders out wide and makes it difficult to control games from midfield with an added bonus for the opposition of having our whole right defensive side covered by just one defender when they break on the attack. I'm hoping he stops it but from what I've read he's a fan of it.

Agree. It seems he has used it at times, but that could be down to personnel? He also plays with 2 in midfield in a 4-2-3-1. Klopp plays with 2 wide 8s, so there is more space for the inverted FB. Will be interesting to see what tweaks he'll make to his traditional tactics here with these players.
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« Reply #13648 on: April 30, 2024, 10:54:21 am »
Also, we need to return pushing the domestic cups to the bottom of our priorities. If we identify who will start the majority of league and CL games then those players should play no part in the domestic cups until at least the semi-final. We have really talented kids and we should trust them and if we go out we go out. I think we did Arsenal a favour by kicking them out of the FA Cup as they had more time to prepare for the league.

They already are bottom of our priorities. We do have a good squad and it should only get better from here but I'm not satisfied just seeing teams of kids go out because we'll eventually pay the price. Thinking like Arsenal do in the domestic cups and Europa League is what leads teams to years without trophies. I know Wenger always took the FA Cup seriously but he had years of success to his name. For all their good work in the league in the last two seasons it seems they'll now end it without silver again.

I'm not particularly confident about our chances in the league and European Cup under a new manager, I'll be honest. Fall short in those, and I expect we will, I certainly hope the cups haven't been thrown to kids or the coming years have the potential of being pretty barren, or to put it another way, shite. Hopefully he'll do what Klopp has done over the past few years and pick Cup sides respective of the opposition we play.
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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #13649 on: April 30, 2024, 11:02:37 am »
Explain to me these foundations? Good players? Pressing style? A club geared towards success? Backroom staff?

What are these foundations that we need to bed in that will take a supposed good manager over a year or two to bed in?

Nobody is demanding success, but as Klopp said early on, CL qualification is the minimum standard for our club.

It's a fair question, but the nature of it kind of illustrates my point. We're not building from scratch, but getting a new manager in inevitably leads to a bit of a renovation. So the progress we need isn't necessarily easily measurable, it's more nuanced than finishing top 4 or winning a cup.

I think unless it's really obvious that Slot isn't the right fit, league position isn't overly important in the first year. It's about him getting the club, communicating well with the fans, establishing his system and style of play, improving players, moving on the right players if needed. If those things are happening, I could take a year of less pleasing results. I'm also not saying that I don't think we will finish top 4 - I think we probably will - it's more the language around "demands" and "minimum expectations" that I find a little unpalatable.
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« Reply #13650 on: April 30, 2024, 11:06:39 am »
It's a fair question, but the nature of it kind of illustrates my point. We're not building from scratch, but getting a new manager in inevitably leads to a bit of a renovation. So the progress we need isn't necessarily easily measurable, it's more nuanced than finishing top 4 or winning a cup.

I think unless it's really obvious that Slot isn't the right fit, league position isn't overly important in the first year. It's about him getting the club, communicating well with the fans, establishing his system and style of play, improving players, moving on the right players if needed. If those things are happening, I could take a year of less pleasing results. I'm also not saying that I don't think we will finish top 4 - I think we probably will - it's more the language around "demands" and "minimum expectations" that I find a little unpalatable.

I think its fair to say I'd have thought that during the interview, the club will be saying that to Slot. Pretty sure Klopp has said in the past he was always told top 4 was a minimum
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« Reply #13651 on: April 30, 2024, 11:08:43 am »
It's a fair question, but the nature of it kind of illustrates my point. We're not building from scratch, but getting a new manager in inevitably leads to a bit of a renovation. So the progress we need isn't necessarily easily measurable, it's more nuanced than finishing top 4 or winning a cup.

I think unless it's really obvious that Slot isn't the right fit, league position isn't overly important in the first year. It's about him getting the club, communicating well with the fans, establishing his system and style of play, improving players, moving on the right players if needed. If those things are happening, I could take a year of less pleasing results. I'm also not saying that I don't think we will finish top 4 - I think we probably will - it's more the language around "demands" and "minimum expectations" that I find a little unpalatable.

Minimum expectations and demands go hand in hand with being a supposed big club. We have a massive wage bill, not finishing in CL hinders our ability to sign top footballers.

If expectations scare people then quite frankly they dont understand our level. We are not some plucky club hoping to do well with years of hand holding. We need to perform and deliver, thats the job.

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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #13652 on: April 30, 2024, 11:18:30 am »
I think its fair to say I'd have thought that during the interview, the club will be saying that to Slot. Pretty sure Klopp has said in the past he was always told top 4 was a minimum

And even he didn't quite manage it every year. Football seasons are weird, strange things can happen.

Minimum expectations and demands go hand in hand with being a supposed big club. We have a massive wage bill, not finishing in CL hinders our ability to sign top footballers.

If expectations scare people then quite frankly they dont understand our level. We are not some plucky club hoping to do well with years of hand holding. We need to perform and deliver, thats the job.

I get your point, but for me it's about having a long term view over demanding immediate success. Those two things don't always go hand in hand - sometimes they do, of course - but I'd rather feel like we had the right person in the job for the long term, even if they have a tricky season, as opposed to binning them after a tough first season in the hope that the next manager fix will get us where we need to be. I prefer long term thinking to the Chelsea approach.
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« Reply #13653 on: April 30, 2024, 11:20:43 am »
I wonder how people would feel if Slot chose to develop Baj rather than buy a 6. Personally, I don't know how I would feel about that but I don't there are many quality number 6s not already at big clubs.

It's not his decision is it?  As head coach he'll be coaching and developing the players that he's given.  It'll be up to the new Sporting Director, with Edwards of course being involved, whether or not a new #6 is brought in. 

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« Reply #13654 on: April 30, 2024, 11:25:35 am »
I think there is a mentality shift thats needed as well, i just think the whole squad has lost the desire to defend really, really well. Look at Trent off the ball, he is practically a non-entity. On corners, its only Van Dijk that tries to be dominant.

Tactically as well, we need to look at it again. Clearly our 2 and 3 buildup does work in that we are still easy to get at during turnovers. I think its too simplistic to say a 6 sorts this, defending requires the whole team.

I don't know enough about the new manager to speculate how he'll have us playing but I'm hoping we build up with a little more patience and have a little more control over the game.  That, and probably a change in our positional play would likely help us be better on the defensive side of the game. 

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« Reply #13655 on: April 30, 2024, 11:25:48 am »
And even he didn't quite manage it every year. Football seasons are weird, strange things can happen.

I get your point, but for me it's about having a long term view over demanding immediate success. Those two things don't always go hand in hand - sometimes they do, of course - but I'd rather feel like we had the right person in the job for the long term, even if they have a tricky season, as opposed to binning them after a tough first season in the hope that the next manager fix will get us where we need to be. I prefer long term thinking to the Chelsea approach.

Top four isnt success.

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« Reply #13656 on: April 30, 2024, 11:28:15 am »
Top four isnt success.

Semantics. Replace the word success for minimum expectations and my post still makes the same point.
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« Reply #13657 on: April 30, 2024, 11:33:01 am »
Semantics. Replace the word success for minimum expectations and my post still makes the same point.

If we are not meeting our minimum expectations then basically the club has fucked its manager search. Its that simple.

I can accept a sluggish start, finishing strong in top four and being a way off Arsenal and City. I cant accept fivth or sixth.
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« Reply #13658 on: April 30, 2024, 11:36:16 am »
If we are not meeting our minimum expectations then basically the club has fucked its manager search. Its that simple.

I can accept a sluggish start, finishing strong in top four and being a way off Arsenal and City. I cant accept fourth or fifth.

It's just way too specific and way too immediate, in my opinion. We're losing the best manager in the world, there's probably room for an adjustment period. Like I said, we might hit the ground running, and I suspect we'll still be a very good team next year. I'm just not demanding it. I'm quite looking forward to a year without intense pressure to be honest.
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« Reply #13659 on: April 30, 2024, 11:41:01 am »
It's not his decision is it?  As head coach he'll be coaching and developing the players that he's given.  It'll be up to the new Sporting Director, with Edwards of course being involved, whether or not a new #6 is brought in. 

I would hope that if they plan to spend 50-100 Million on someone who might not be needed they ask the manager first

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« Reply #13660 on: April 30, 2024, 11:42:56 am »
It's just way too specific and way too immediate, in my opinion. We're losing the best manager in the world, there's probably room for an adjustment period. Like I said, we might hit the ground running, and I suspect we'll still be a very good team next year. I'm just not demanding it. I'm quite looking forward to a year without intense pressure to be honest.

I am obviously as sad as everyone else about the boss leaving, but that doesn`t mean I can`t be excited about the new fella coming in and seeing how it works. I agree with you that a year of getting used to his system, seeing how the players adapt and what he can get out of them will mean that pressure, to some extent, will be off a little. I also agree with Killer though. With the players we have, then top 4 really should be the minimum requirement.
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« Reply #13661 on: April 30, 2024, 11:47:16 am »
I would hope that if they plan to spend 50-100 Million on someone who might not be needed they ask the manager first

Of course he'll be involved in the discussions but the final decision isn't going to be his. 

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« Reply #13662 on: April 30, 2024, 11:55:07 am »
Of course he'll be involved in the discussions but the final decision isn't going to be his. 

It's most likely a joint decision.



I'm not sure why everybody is expecting  Edwards and Hughes to act like dictators that will have their way, and go over the head of the "head coach" for no reason at all.
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« Reply #13663 on: April 30, 2024, 12:00:42 pm »
It's most likely a joint decision.



I'm not sure why everybody is expecting  Edwards and Hughes to act like dictators that will have their way, and go over the head of the "head coach" for no reason at all.

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« Reply #13664 on: April 30, 2024, 12:02:42 pm »
And even he didn't quite manage it every year. Football seasons are weird, strange things can happen.

I get your point, but for me it's about having a long term view over demanding immediate success. Those two things don't always go hand in hand - sometimes they do, of course - but I'd rather feel like we had the right person in the job for the long term, even if they have a tricky season, as opposed to binning them after a tough first season in the hope that the next manager fix will get us where we need to be. I prefer long term thinking to the Chelsea approach.

Agreed - I'm going to judge him on the football itself, but barring a major injury crisis/players fucking off, we should finish top 3 based on our squad and the other teams and how poor they are.
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« Reply #13665 on: April 30, 2024, 12:03:18 pm »
I am obviously as sad as everyone else about the boss leaving, but that doesn`t mean I can`t be excited about the new fella coming in and seeing how it works. I agree with you that a year of getting used to his system, seeing how the players adapt and what he can get out of them will mean that pressure, to some extent, will be off a little. I also agree with Killer though. With the players we have, then top 4 really should be the minimum requirement.
Our big players wouldn't be happy if we don't qualify for the CL.

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« Reply #13666 on: April 30, 2024, 12:32:28 pm »
A true 6 would be nice, for starters. I think many of our defensive issues stem from a lack of players in that position, or players in that position who shouldn't really be playing every match / are still adjusting to the league (like Endo). Saying that Klopp plays without this kind of players is nonsense. Just look at Fabinho.

Our four best seasons under Klopp, August 2018 to June 2022, were also prime Fabinho.

Klopp's first two years the team was open, conceding easy chances but scoring plenty too, games were rollercoasters, none more so than 5-4 at Norwich.

We then made three key signings. Virgil in Jan '18, followed by Fabinho and Ali in summer '18. We became watertight from then on.

As brilliant as Virgil was for us in those first six months, and he was superb, we were still open (not as much, but still open). The games vs Roma (7-6 agg), had that semi gone on another 10 minutes, it would have gone to extra time and then it was anybody's (with such momentum it's likely we wouldn't have got to Kiev).

The disaster in goal was replaced with Ali, so that was an enormous upgrade.

But of all three changes, for me the biggest difference has always been Fabinho. He plugged the midfield, the leakages stopped, and the workload on our backline (and gk) fell. "The lighthouse" moniker was apt, as he was the one, being in such a pivotal position on the field, in the zone where alot of attacks are initiated, who saw danger and put it out.

In the 20 to 21 season, we were top of the league at Christmas despite having no senior centre backs. In the midst of that disgraceful transfer window from the owners, Jurgen decides to move Fabinho (and Hendo) into central defence, and suddenly, without the midfield protection, we start losing games on the spin (6 in total). He then moves them back into midfield. And we then put Rhys Williams and Nat Phillips into centre half (not exactly Baresi and Beckenbauer), and we go in title winning form. The midfield, namely Fabinho as the DM, closed off the danger at source, so the stuff the centre backs were having to deal with was the basics (crosses into the box, bread and butter clearances), without a Fabinho infront of them they'd have got rinsed (without a Didi Hamann infront of an infinitely superior Carragher and Hyppia in Istanbul they did get rinsed, with Kaka given the freedom to slide balls through them at will, a supply to the forwards that was only cut off when the Kaiser came on at half time).

The 22 to 23 season, Virgil was still there, Ali was still there, but we became as open (in fact even more open) as pre 2018. The difference was Fabinho, his collapse. All of a sudden the backline was massively overworked, Ali had never been busier (i'd guess he made more astonishing saves that season than the previous 4 together). The easy access to our final third, which was not there for the previous four years, was shocking, we fell off a cliff as Fabinho fell off a cliff.

What I find most staggering is Klopp's oversight on this. His teams press high, which leaves us exposed on the counter, making it extra imperative to have a top class DM putting out fires (ie. Fabinho "the lighthouse" for four years) when teams break. A compact team (for example Rafa), where the midfielders stay close to each other, that need (while still there) isn't as glaring. Without that key component Klopp's team doesn't function, which has been the case for four seasons, two seasons either side of having a top class DM. When asked about the lack of mobility in the 6 this year he said the midfield would have to "stay close to each other", ie. babysit the 6 so as not to expose him, but that is completely counter to his game, one based on risk where the DM then takes up the slack.

Every player on a team is a "defender", for instance the striker putting pressure on the opposition defender who has the ball (Ian Rush I always thought was our best offensive defender the way he harried the backline), but the first actual defender, the person whose prime job it is to stop attacks against us, is the defensive midfielder, and he is the one who exerts the most influence by stopping them at source.

The first thing that should be looked at when someone says "the defence wasnt good", is the DM. He is the first port of call in the defensive unit. It's why when building a defence, the first position you get right is the DM. With what could be generously considered a championship level centre back pairing (Rhys Williams and Nat Phillips) we could well have won a league title with them had Fabinho not been moved from DM when he was. Real Madrid, with all those stars in the back line, in midfield, and attack, yet when Makelele left they became flaky, ie. wide open, as the DM, the only who holds the thing together, was gone. All the players maligned that sale, he was not "glamorous"; the role isnt glamorous, but its crucial.

Kante, has there been a more influential player over the past 10 years? Leicester, Chelsea, and France, the first two league champions, the latter world champions, and it goes without saying he was crucial to that happening. Wes Morgan and Robert Huth, again not exactly a quality CB pairing (maybe lower mid table?) yet they have a league winners medal in their cupboard. Everytime they take it out to look at they should be thanking the elite DM who screened anything that happened infront of them, as without him the only thing they'd have had to look back on was a battle in staying up. Paul Pogba, without Kante doing all his defensive work he would never have got the freedom or platform to do what he did with France.

The Roy Evans team, the one player we never had was a DM. We were entertaining to watch, too entertaining, as that midfield was wide open. Barnes and Redknapp (or Michael Thomas) in central midfield, it's no bleedin wonder we never got to the next level. United had Roy Keane. The season where Roy Keane was out for the season United didn't win the league.
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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #13667 on: April 30, 2024, 01:01:08 pm »
Top four isnt success.
the bottom 16 would disagree vehemently.

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« Reply #13668 on: April 30, 2024, 01:07:08 pm »
the bottom 16 would disagree vehemently.

We have what, the 4th or so highest wage bill in the country? We must be mismanaged then if top four is success.

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« Reply #13669 on: April 30, 2024, 01:11:11 pm »
Our four best seasons under Klopp, August 2018 to June 2022, were also prime Fabinho.

Klopp's first two years the team was open, conceding easy chances but scoring plenty too, games were rollercoasters, none more so than 5-4 at Norwich.

We then made three key signings. Virgil in Jan '18, followed by Fabinho and Ali in summer '18. We became watertight from then on.
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It was understandable to not get someone last season as we dod cover off the other Midfield positions but it would be a failure not to have found one by this summer. Thiagos departure creates a space for someone so that won't be an issue. Probably the first true test of Hughes' reign.
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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #13670 on: April 30, 2024, 01:12:26 pm »
We have what, the 4th or so highest wage bill in the country? We must be mismanaged then if top four is success.
last summer as Klopp was building his 2.0 squad, the general view was "success would be Top 4 minimum, with a domestic cup as bonus".  we did exactly that.
now with a brand new manager (ok head coach) implementing a new system, with question marks over who the squad will actually consist of, a similar level of performance doesn't seem unreasonable.

what will "success" be for you in Slot's first season?

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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #13671 on: April 30, 2024, 01:39:52 pm »
last summer as Klopp was building his 2.0 squad, the general view was "success would be Top 4 minimum, with a domestic cup as bonus".  we did exactly that.
now with a brand new manager (ok head coach) implementing a new system, with question marks over who the squad will actually consist of, a similar level of performance doesn't seem unreasonable.

what will "success" be for you in Slot's first season?

Same as this season. Top 4 and a trophy. Top four alone wouldn't be success.

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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #13672 on: April 30, 2024, 01:43:28 pm »
Our four best seasons under Klopp, August 2018 to June 2022, were also prime Fabinho.




Yup. look at the great teams from all eras, notice the (often unsung) players, Kante, Makelele, Rodri, Case, McMahon, Fabinho, Stiles, Crerand, Reid, Bremner, McGovern, Busquets, Deschamps........
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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #13673 on: April 30, 2024, 01:47:33 pm »
Same as this season. Top 4 and a trophy. Top four alone wouldn't be success.

Agree with this in the sense that Top 4 and progression to CL knockout phase is minimum we should expect and winning a trophy on top is a very successful season.

It shouldn’t be some ultimatum to Slot that anything other than CL qualification will equal the sack. That would be harsh given this team is 1 season removed from doing just that. But Top4 should be minimum expectation with our squad and what we invest in it (wages+transfers+facilities/coaches).
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« Reply #13674 on: April 30, 2024, 01:49:45 pm »

Yup. look at the great teams from all eras, notice the (often unsung) players, Kante, Makelele, Rodri, Case, McMahon, Fabinho, Stiles, Crerand, Reid, Bremner, McGovern, Busquets, Deschamps........

We clearly want one, otherwise why are we bidding a british record for Caicedo, I expect we'll revisit.

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« Reply #13675 on: April 30, 2024, 01:51:37 pm »
I think his biggest success would be if he builds up a very submissive and respectful reputation with the referees. No confrontations, no post-match comments, constant praise, always mention how hard the job is, how well they are doing, firm and friendly handshakes after every game with each member of the referee team. Never scream at them on the touchline, don't even talk to them, just smile and carry on.

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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #13676 on: April 30, 2024, 02:01:40 pm »
We clearly want one, otherwise why are we bidding a british record for Caicedo, I expect we'll revisit.

Not sure how we can use last summer as a guide for what we want now. The Caicedo deal was presumably driven by Klopp, Schmadtke and Gordon…. all of whom are either gone or going. Us being willing to go big on a DM last summer doesn’t mean Slot, Hughes and Edwards will feel the same, though of course they might.

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« Reply #13677 on: April 30, 2024, 02:26:53 pm »
Our four best seasons under Klopp, August 2018 to June 2022, were also prime Fabinho.

Klopp's first two years the team was open, conceding easy chances but scoring plenty too, games were rollercoasters, none more so than 5-4 at Norwich.

We then made three key signings. Virgil in Jan '18, followed by Fabinho and Ali in summer '18. We became watertight from then on.
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« Reply #13678 on: April 30, 2024, 02:40:20 pm »
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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #13679 on: April 30, 2024, 02:47:19 pm »
Not sure how we can use last summer as a guide for what we want now. The Caicedo deal was presumably driven by Klopp, Schmadtke and Gordon…. all of whom are either gone or going. Us being willing to go big on a DM last summer doesn’t mean Slot, Hughes and Edwards will feel the same, though of course they might.

I hope that a good DM is one of the first things that Slot will want. City have Rodri and Arsenal have Rice. We don't have a DM of that cabibre; yes Wataru is decent and Mac Allister has done a good job but I think this is one area that we need to revisit. Getting a very good DM will not be easy though.

Slot may also want to look at a new right back. I think Bradley will be our new right back with TAA moving into midfield but we could do with a replacement. Yes TAA or Gomez can do that job so maybe it's not high priority.
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