Topic: The Monarchy*

[lfcred1976]

Will everywhere be shut saturday if shes announced dead today/tomorrow?

Have family flying over to go the Wolves game with me Saturday and if the games cancelled I guess we can still go out and do something but if everything is shut... ffs.

Fucking hope not. Got a Just Eat gift card I was planning to use on Saturday night.

[Studgotelli]

I just don't get it I'm afraid. I have zero affinity to a family (which includes her) of privilege of wealth assigned at birth. They don't represent me or the majority of the people who live in this area and I think they appear more and more antiquated when you see the absolute state of the country and the good causes their wealth could be used towards. The most I could possibly muster is an apathetic shoulder shrug and that's pushing it.

I get you, that’s fair enough I agree with that on a general level. As I say my sentiment is more about her rather than the monarchy as a whole.

[Nobby Reserve]

There are ten days of mourning with the only two days off work likely to be the funeral and subsequent coronation.

Knowing the Tory c*nts and their 'Victorian millowner' mentality, they'll probably make sure both are held on a weekend.

[12C]

Just turned on the tele.
BBC news Saint
“The queen is said to be comfortable and resting”
Like it’s news or something

[classycarra]

Fucking hope not. Got a Just Eat gift card I was planning to use on Saturday night.

[Ray K]

Bring the body back to London perhaps.

That big London Bridge article in the Guardian a few years back said that if she dies at Balmoral, she'll be taken to Hollyroodhouse and then some cathedral in Edinburgh for lying in state before being transported to London. (By train, apparently).

[Elmo!]

That big London Bridge article in the Guardian a few years back said that if she dies at Balmoral, she'll be taken to Hollyroodhouse and then some cathedral in Edinburgh for lying in state before being transported to London. (By train, apparently).

Presumably St Giles Cathedral

[Ray K]

Presumably St Giles Cathedral

That sounds familiar all right.

[disgraced cake]

I'll take it we're holding off on a pre match thread for Wolves for now then?

[liversaint]

Could be getting Harry there.

I think she's suffering enough

[Qston]

Just turned on the tele.
BBC news Saint
“The queen is said to be comfortable and resting”
Like it’s news or something

I think it's pretty much code for it's the end. The fact that the BBC have suspended all usual programming suggests they know and are preparing for the announcement.

I could of course be talking utter shite as usual

[Jiminy Cricket]

You serious?  Majority of us boo the national anthem. Why would the forum be closed?

Or a good attempt at fishing.

I expect you were whooshed there.

[John C]

So when does the “it’s happening” gif get posted?

It doesn't.
The tone of this thread is absolutely fine, there's been some amusing stuff posted. But, even though there'll be very few royalists amongst us this site won't be celebrating the Queens death.
When it occurs one of the Mods will post a collective statement.

[Musketeer Gripweed]

The postbox across from my house with GR on it won't need modernized now then.

[Elmo!]

So, what are the plans? Close the forum for two weeks as a mark of respect?

Close half time threads permanently. Anything else would be disrespectful to the Queen.

[spen71]

Bet the joke about Truss and Boris releasing a single Killer Queen already been done!

[classycarra]

Bet the joke about Truss and Boris releasing a single Killer Queen already been done!

has now. i give it 6/10, with most points for the quality of execution!

[bogrollsbike]

Liz truss must have skin like a poison dart frog.

[Red Beret]

I get you, that’s fair enough I agree with that on a general level. As I say my sentiment is more about her rather than the monarchy as a whole.

Yeah, I don't see it as a black and white issue.

The Queen has turned a blind eye to some dark shit, and her "hands off" policy has allowed governments to repeatedly inflict great suffering on her subjects. On the flip side, she's dedicated her life to public service, always seemed about as down to earth as one could reasonably expect from a monarch, and has arguably made a bigger contribution to the good of the nation than any of the political pygmies that have passed themselves off as UK leaders in the past 20-30 years.

My main hope is that a new monarch will take back some of the authority that is his by right and start fucking the government's shit up.

[Circa1892]

As much as the Monarchy is a weird relic of an institution - this is a seizemic moment for this country I think and its reckoning with what it actually is.

The vast majority of people have never known anything different than the Queen. Her first Prime Minister was born in the mid-19th century. She's the direct and living link to what some would call the countries "former glories" - the war generation, the empire, being (one of) the most powerful nation on earth. The delusions of granduer the country have are supported and sustained by having the most famous person in the world as the head of state. That's gone and the link with history is severed.

[Circa1892]

My main hope is that a new monarch will take back some of the authority that is his by right and start fucking the government's shit up.

I think that was the mindset that led to Charles I downfall...

[lfcred1976]

I expect you were whooshed there.

Hence the good attempt at fishing line 😂

[classycarra]

Liz truss must have skin like a poison dart frog.

nothing on the guy with the kgb connections?

[liversaint]

Knowing the Tory c*nts and their 'Victorian millowner' mentality, they'll probably make sure both are held on a weekend.

just like Dianas

[J_Kopite]

Completely tired already of try-hards attempting to out-edge each other and tell the world how much they don’t care, as well as the weird Royalists and incessant coverage and over the top grief that’s going to emerge. Anyone else?

[KillieRed]

Is apathy all right by you?

[-Willo-]

Completely tired already of try-hards attempting to out-edge each other and tell the world how much they don’t care, as well as the weird Royalists and incessant coverage and over the top grief that’s going to emerge. Anyone else?

I am the same, both 'sides' going to the extreme to prove how much they care/don't care.

[Jiminy Cricket]

Hence the good attempt at fishing line

Yeah. Often hard to tell. Sometimes described as Poe's Law. I'd say the proposition that RAWK should close for two weeks as a mark of respect qualifies as an 'extreme view'.

[lfcred1976]

Yeah. Often hard to tell. Sometimes described as Poe's Law. I'd say the proposition that RAWK should close for two weeks as a mark of respect qualifies as 'extreme'.

Learn something new every day. Never heard of Poe’s Law.

[stewy17]

Yeah, I don't see it as a black and white issue.

The Queen has turned a blind eye to some dark shit, and her "hands off" policy has allowed governments to repeatedly inflict great suffering on her subjects. On the flip side, she's dedicated her life to public service, always seemed about as down to earth as one could reasonably expect from a monarch, and has arguably made a bigger contribution to the good of the nation than any of the political pygmies that have passed themselves off as UK leaders in the past 20-30 years.

My main hope is that a new monarch will take back some of the authority that is his by right and start fucking the government's shit up.

You hope an unelected hereditary monarchy takes back some authority and fucks with the quasi-democratically elected government? Jesus.

My realistic hope for the future of the monarchy would be that they are stripped of any and all constitutional powers and privileges and that our contitution is re-written to effectively become a republic. It'll never happen though.

As for the Queen, regardless of anyone's view of her and the whole system, it's a seismic event in this country, I think. Most of us have never known a life without her kipper on a banknote. It will bring scrutiny and question to the role of the monarchy in this country (hopefully) and it will have an impact on the commonwealth (again, hopefully).

Hopefully the beginning of the end of the circus.

[Ray K]

I'll take it we're holding off on a pre match thread for Wolves for now then?

Out of respect for James Milner, who was alive the last time a monarch died.

[Andy82lfc]

Completely tired already of try-hards attempting to out-edge each other and tell the world how much they don’t care, as well as the weird Royalists and incessant coverage and over the top grief that’s going to emerge. Anyone else?

Yeah, I can hear thousands of tweets being pre-planned as I type, plus so many desperate people with their finger on the trigger ready to break the news first.

[Fromola]

Null and void the season. Everton fans must agree, they haven't won yet.

[Dench57]

Hope she lasts until Sunday night at least, week off to mourn?

[Fromola]

As much as the Monarchy is a weird relic of an institution - this is a seizemic moment for this country I think and its reckoning with what it actually is.

The vast majority of people have never known anything different than the Queen. Her first Prime Minister was born in the mid-19th century. She's the direct and living link to what some would call the countries "former glories" - the war generation, the empire, being (one of) the most powerful nation on earth. The delusions of granduer the country have are supported and sustained by having the most famous person in the world as the head of state. That's gone and the link with history is severed.

Once the Queen has gone the unquestioning support for the monarchy goes with it from the cap doffers. The Queen was/is the last link to an age that no longer exists.

Plus even a lot of Royal haters at least respect the Queen.

[lobsterboy]

Makes me laugh that facing her final mortal days she chose to spend them in Scotland and not Mingland.
Have that gammons!

[Schmarn]

Charles won't change a thing. He's already tacitly agreed to keep his trap shut on issues of public interest in return for the right wing press laying off Camilla. I'd be amazed if he lasts more than a few years (not unlike Queen Victoria's successor) and he'll be heavily advised to involve William more and more as they aren't daft enough not to realise that he is the only royal figure who commands any respect after the Queen.

All of this will be a godsend to Truss. Scrutiny of her energy tax shelved for a week or more of mourning while she masquerades as a leading world figure. The Mail will then tell us how she handled it all with great dignity and how it's our duty to give her another 5 year term rather than risk our future with child-eating socialists.

[Red Beret]

I think it's pretty much code for it's the end. The fact that the BBC have suspended all usual programming suggests they know and are preparing for the announcement.

I could of course be talking utter shite as usual

Yeah, if she recovers the Beeb will look a right gang of vultures. There's a whole operation for the Queen's death, and I think this phase is about preparing the country for the inevitable. I reckon the BBC and other media outlets have been given a head's up by the Queen's secretary.

[Kenny's Jacket]

Charles won't change a thing. He's already tacitly agreed to keep his trap shut on issues of public interest in return for the right wing press laying off Camilla. I'd be amazed if he lasts more than a few years (not unlike Queen Victoria's successor) and he'll be heavily advised to involve William more and more as they aren't daft enough not to realise that he is the only royal figure who commands any respect after the Queen.

All of this will be a godsend to Truss. Scrutiny of her energy tax shelved for a week or more of mourning while she masquerades as a leading world figure. The Mail will then tell us how she handled it all with great dignity and how it's our duty to give her another 5 year term rather than risk our future with child-eating socialists.

But hes already spoken out about Rwanda.

[Andypandimonium]

Edinburgh is going to be a feckin circus if she does pass at Balmoral. Will make the festival look like a quiet day out. Never realised until today that we get the "privilege" of holding the funeral.

On the bright side we won't have to play Rangers which goes into forty days of mourning I understand.