Topic: Jarell Quansah

[duvva 💅]

Early days. I don't disagree too much with what what you say, but I think that Nat and Rhys are thought of as past options, Sepp and Billy maybe still have something to offer. Klopp spoke about Billy in glowing terms before, not sure what he thinks now. Sepp may still become a very good CB even though he may have missed the boat... I think that when Rhys came into the team, the excitement was similar to what we see now with Jarell. We shouldn't get carried away, and we should give them time to show what they are capable of.

I think Quansah has already shown more potential than any of those you mention. I don’t recall seeing the kind of potential or excitement around Williams. They all had their time and place and did a job for us. Sorry if that sounds like I’m underselling them (I probably am) but I’m just trying to emphasise how much more potential to reach the kind of level we’d be looking for Quansah has.

He seems to have all the tools to me. I haven’t seen enough of Colwill to be sure but I’d imagine they’re quite similar types - Strong, natural ball playing CB, so perhaps we’ve saved ourselves a lot of money.

[Fiasco]

I was mightily impressed with Jarell against Wolves. He looked really good, read the play well, confident on the ball, didn't look fazed by anything. He's only 20! Still got lots of time to improve. Really excited about this lad.

[AmanShah21]

Early days. I don't disagree too much with what what you say, but I think that Nat and Rhys are thought of as past options, Sepp and Billy maybe still have something to offer. Klopp spoke about Billy in glowing terms before, not sure what he thinks now. Sepp may still become a very good CB even though he may have missed the boat... I think that when Rhys came into the team, the excitement was similar to what we see now with Jarell. We shouldn't get carried away, and we should give them time to show what they are capable of.

I think Billy never really looked comfortable in an in-game situation whenever he played, even in pre-season. Sometimes players can be like that. Given him and Jarrel are the same age, I think Jarrel.is now more likely to earn that place. Not saying Billy wont too, because he is only a couple months older than Jarell, he has time to improve himself. It's only that at this point, Jarell seems to be the one that has the attention and opportunity. With Sepp, I think injuries have ruined his chances because he was absolutely adored during his PNE loan and seemed like a proper player who could/should play at this level.

[Red Beret]

I know people like to remark at how young this lad is, but let's not forget that Trent was only 20 when we won Big Ears. Being that good at such an early edge shouldn't really be a shock for us.

[Ghost Town]

I know people like to remark at how young this lad is, but let's not forget that Trent was only 20 when we won Big Ears. Being that good at such an early edge shouldn't really be a shock for us.

And Trent got his chance because we had a 'crisis' at Right Back, Clyne with his never-ending injury (or whatever it was, I remember the rumours doing the rounds were multiform and insane ). So maybe a bit of 'crisis' is a good thing to allow a young player to grab his chance, stake his claim and never look back.

Blah blah blah shambles, blah blah blah criminal negligence etc etc

[Black Bull Nova]

Nah, I'm not having that. Not after all the negativity we had to endure all off-season long.
I've had enough.

He was clearly going to feature in the first team in premier league games this season. In hindsight, it's one of the reasons we didn't sign a CB- despite what some of us wanted the club to do.
Klopp knew this of course- he knew he had a CB who could cut it and who he had plans for. We just knew better.

We weren't "forced" into playing him. Konate was on the bench- Klopp just chose him cause he was in his plans anyway.
Don't think so? Then why didn't Konate start over him? Klopp had an easy choice- start a staple of the first team or Quansah.
He wasn't FORCED at all. Jarell could have gotten 10 minutes at the end, but Klopp clearly didn't see it that way, and he was clearly not in a position where his hand was forced. He included the lad in the squad- having seen enough of him last season, so Jarell's assessment would've been made before or at the start of pre-season.

In any case, the ice was broken at Newcastle already- after Virgil's red card.
There's no way back now for Jarell. The fact he cut it easily with flying colors at Newcastle, down to 10 men, and a full debut against Wolves AWAY, where we were way below sorts for a large part of the first half and recording stats like the below, means we can bring him on in just about any game:

- 91 touches
- 96% pass completion
- accurately placed all three of his attempted long balls, as per Sofascore.
- won three out of his four ground duels
- made three tackles
- two interceptions
- only dribbled past once

He's a first team regular now.

Totally


Let's not forget Klopp brought him on at Newcastle for Matip when we were 1-0 down (and for his Debut), if he did not have confidence in him I'm sure Matip had enough to stay on.


Without resurrecting the transfer thread, we need to remember;


Klopp knows things we don't, that includes who is coming through


It's not always best to spend £50m to get a decent player, sometimes local lads can do the business (see Alexander-Arnold and Jones). At least Jarell has an exotic sounding name which some people like (albeit having an exotic name in Warrington works two ways)


p.s. Look at page 19 below
https://www.rainhillhighschool.org.uk/uploads/PDFs/Magazine.pdf


What are your ambitions in your sport? To be the best centre back in the world. To win a World Cup and a Champions League. At least one individual award (albeit he admired Sergio Ramos in 2018)

[Magix]

He's certainly looking the part, and even more satisfying that he's an academy lad who came through the ranks.

[farawayred]

And Trent got his chance because we had a 'crisis' at Right Back, Clyne with his never-ending injury (or whatever it was, I remember the rumours doing the rounds were multiform and insane ). So maybe a bit of 'crisis' is a good thing to allow a young player to grab his chance, stake his claim and never look back.

Blah blah blah shambles, blah blah blah criminal negligence etc etc

Totally. I remember the excitement when Trent first broke through into the team, and he never looked back. But for me, if Jarell indeed establishes himself as a top CB this season, it may be argued that it's even higher achievement. Young CBs are rarely given the chance to play there in a senior teams, rather they are first deployed as full backs (like Gomez). The CB position comes with greater responsibility, so for him to be trusted there even as a sub is an achievement in itself, let alone starting a PL game.

I hope Quansah takes his chance, he seems to have all the tools indeed. Well, maybe he won't have Big Ears to lift above his head, but that other trophy ain't that bad either.

[SamLad]

the PL trophy?  I agree.

[Fromola]

Totally


Let's not forget Klopp brought him on at Newcastle for Matip when we were 1-0 down (and for his Debut), if he did not have confidence in him I'm sure Matip had enough to stay on.


Without resurrecting the transfer thread, we need to remember;


Klopp knows things we don't, that includes who is coming through


It's not always best to spend £50m to get a decent player, sometimes local lads can do the business (see Alexander-Arnold and Jones). At least Jarell has an exotic sounding name which some people like (albeit having an exotic name in Warrington works two ways)


p.s. Look at page 19 below
https://www.rainhillhighschool.org.uk/uploads/PDFs/Magazine.pdf


What are your ambitions in your sport? To be the best centre back in the world. To win a World Cup and a Champions League. At least one individual award (albeit he admired Sergio Ramos in 2018)

I'm happy with having Quansah as part of the squad. My concern with our younger players isn't so much ability but our ability to keep them fit which then leaves the ssquad short. Bajcetic did a great job for a few games and then he's injured for 6 months (was also out for long term not long before that). Bradley looked solid at the start of pre-season then he's out long term. Ramsay was basically injured all last season. Jones missed large parts of the last 2 seasons. Kaide Gordon didn't kick a ball for 18 months. Gomez has had bad injury after bad injury. Brewster looked the part then was out injured for 2 seasons. Layton Stewart simiilar or Glatzel. It's insane really.

We're great at harnessing talent and potential, but it's whether we can keep them fit. That was key with Trent.

[Sinyoro]

Couldn't find an all-touch of his full debut, but this has some of it:

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/3XdKTpEzStI" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/3XdKTpEzStI</a>


And a take from RedmenTV:

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/Ejmxr8CA5ik" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/Ejmxr8CA5ik</a>

Did someone say that he is not good aerially?

[Samie]

[JonnyCigarettes®]

He's only 20!

[smurfinaus]

Anyone know if he is decent with his left foot? (not that there is anything wrong with a strong RCB... could have better balance with leftie coming through instead)?. Had been hoping he would get his chance this season.
Who would you guys say he has modelled his game after/more like? (i assume people will say VVD..)

[spider-neil]

Quansah’s progress potentially means we need one centre back next summer rather than two.

[Funky_Gibbons]

I’m really looking forward to seeing this kids progression.

[Keith Lard]

This lad is a bit special int’he

[Draex]

Doesn't look out of place, what a talent.

[Coolie High]

Who needs Colwill?

[phil236849]

Delighted with his progress. Been banging his drum for ages!

[tubby]

That cross field switch to Doak in the first half was brilliant.

[jepovic]

He is why we didnt get another CB in the summer.
Really solid, great with his feet.

[Ghost Town]

Imperious.

Did he put a foot wrong? Only one unimportant misplaced pass that I saw

[MonsLibpool]

He's classy on the ball. Very good wing play for the third.

[tubby]

Imperious.

Did he put a foot wrong? Only one unimportant misplaced pass that I saw

There was one moment where a Leicester player seemed to teleport right through him and come out the other side with the ball but that's the only dodgy thing I remember, was immense otherwise.

Great to see him dribbling with his left for the Jota goal, being comfortable with both feet will help so much.

[Haggis36]

Excellent tonight, a really composed and mature performance - gives the impression of being far more experienced than he is. He's barely put a foot wrong in his appearances this season so far. Pleased he'll get another round as its competitions like this and EL that will help his development massively.

[rawcusk8]

Excited by this lads potential, another really good showing where he’s not looked out of place at all. Keep this level up and he’s going to save us a shit load of money

[JP!]

Pretty clear why we didn't chase after a CB like mad march hares.

[Boaty McBoatface]

Well done Jarell. Great game and a lovely assist. Looked up and picked out his man. What a prospect!

[AmanShah21]

Good lad. Partnered well with Konate to cover each other so so well. That calmness in his demeanor is so refreshing and rare in young center halves. Reads the game as well as anyone. All he needs is time and experience and he should mature into a monster center half.

[RedG13]

Excellent Game. Great Assist also

[decosabute]

I think Quansah has already shown more potential than any of those you mention. I don’t recall seeing the kind of potential or excitement around Williams. They all had their time and place and did a job for us. Sorry if that sounds like I’m underselling them (I probably am) but I’m just trying to emphasise how much more potential to reach the kind of level we’d be looking for Quansah has.

He seems to have all the tools to me. I haven’t seen enough of Colwill to be sure but I’d imagine they’re quite similar types - Strong, natural ball playing CB, so perhaps we’ve saved ourselves a lot of money.

Agree. Klopp had a laugh with the "Billy the Kid" stuff around Koumetio, but the truth is, he never looked a player in a proper game for us. Was an absolute mile off it the last time I saw him play a league cup game. Rhys Williams did admittedly look composed in his first couple of appearances, and obviously ended up doing a job for us later that season, but he never looked like a physically dominating CB in quite the same way that Quansah already has. He has a proper man body already, and the way he just sort of bullied their player and then showed vision in getting the assist tonight was great.

It is early days, but I think Quansah has everything to have a future here, at least in the squad if not first choice.

[RyanBabel19]

One point where I thought we were in trouble late on and he just handled the situation like he's been doing this for years and years

[WorldChampions]

Matip 2.0 with that run and assist.

[TepidT2O]

He’s done really well.

A big way ahead of Williams and More comfortable on and off the ball than Phillips.  He’s a solid number 5 right now.  Maybe he can step up again now, he doesn’t worry me when he plays…. Which is nice

[Tobelius]

One of the things that gives me most joy following us is seeing young players emerge from within and here we might have another good one in Jarell.
Well done lad.

[stoopid yank]

Sorry if that sounds like I’m underselling them (I probably am)

You're not.

The simple fact is none of them them are still here. That says it all.

[MBL?]

Agree. Klopp had a laugh with the "Billy the Kid" stuff around Koumetio, but the truth is, he never looked a player in a proper game for us. Was an absolute mile off it the last time I saw him play a league cup game. Rhys Williams did admittedly look composed in his first couple of appearances, and obviously ended up doing a job for us later that season, but he never looked like a physically dominating CB in quite the same way that Quansah already has. He has a proper man body already, and the way he just sort of bullied their player and then showed vision in getting the assist tonight was great.

It is early days, but I think Quansah has everything to have a future here, at least in the squad if not first choice.

I remember watching the u21s after Billy's impressive pre season and Quansah looked a much more mature defender.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

He's already a unit but give it a couple of years and he'll scare his own nan.

[Legs]

Long way to go for him obviously but he has started well.

Joey Barton did say he can go to the very top in an interview I saw as his manager at Bristol Rovers the loan has done him good I’d say.