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gramck24 · « **Reply #440 on:** July 9, 2011, 10:21:53 am »

Quote from: BMW on July 9, 2011, 09:16:12 am

Just thought I'd mention there is 45 points separating the top 6 in the fantasy competition.

Yep, it's getting tight at the top.

Although i see we've slipped down the mini league of leagues to 5th.

Mal · « **Reply #441 on:** July 9, 2011, 11:07:14 am »

Quote from: gramck24 on July 9, 2011, 10:21:53 am

Yep, it's getting tight at the top.

Although i see we've slipped down the mini league of leagues to 5th.

I'm trying to improve...

I've made some (more) transfers this morning, anyone know if they will they take effect before today's stage?

kaz1983 · « **Reply #442 on:** July 9, 2011, 11:32:44 am »

Quote from: Mal on July 9, 2011, 11:07:14 am

I'm trying to improve...

I've made some (more) transfers this morning, anyone know if they will they take effect before today's stage?

If you did them before 11am they should.

Veinticinco de Mayo · « **Reply #443 on:** July 9, 2011, 12:50:53 pm »

Cav and Petacchi out for Schleck and Conty this morning. Thor still in at the mo, see if he can cling to yellow for another day or two. Will soon be replaced by Cadel I think though. Anyone got any tips for a mid-priced GC contender and a 4m or less climber?

kaz1983 · « **Reply #444 on:** July 9, 2011, 03:04:17 pm »

The breakaway have 2'07 minutes on the peleton.

kaz1983 · « **Reply #445 on:** July 9, 2011, 03:36:42 pm »

Thor still hanging with Contador, Evans, both Schlecks etc etc and looking good.

Pheeny · « **Reply #446 on:** July 9, 2011, 03:38:30 pm »

Quote from: Veinticinco de Mayo on July 9, 2011, 12:50:53 pm

Cav and Petacchi out for Schleck and Conty this morning. Thor still in at the mo, see if he can cling to yellow for another day or two. Will soon be replaced by Cadel I think though. Anyone got any tips for a mid-priced GC contender and a 4m or less climber?

slowly coming around to Thor.

INABITSKI · « **Reply #447 on:** July 9, 2011, 03:54:38 pm »

Vinokourov could be in yellow tonight if he can keep it up or I might have cursed him.

INABITSKI · « **Reply #448 on:** July 9, 2011, 04:03:27 pm »

Thor Hushovd stayed with them all the way.

kaz1983 · « **Reply #449 on:** July 9, 2011, 04:03:59 pm »

Well done Thor, well done mate.

kaz1983 · « **Reply #450 on:** July 9, 2011, 04:08:43 pm »

The question is can Thor wear the yellow jersey into the rest day?

INABITSKI · « **Reply #451 on:** July 9, 2011, 04:10:58 pm »

1.    FARIA DA COSTA Rui Alberto    83    MOVISTAR TEAM    4h 36' 46"
2.    GILBERT Philippe    32    OMEGA PHARMA - LOTTO    4h 36' 58"    + 00' 12"
3.    EVANS Cadel    141    BMC RACING TEAM    4h 37' 01"    + 00' 15"
4.    SANCHEZ Samuel    21    EUSKALTEL - EUSKADI    4h 37' 01"    + 00' 15"
5.    VELITS Peter    179    HTC - HIGHROAD    4h 37' 01"    + 00' 15"
6.    DEVENYNS Dries    125    QUICK STEP CYCLING TEAM    4h 37' 01"    + 00' 15"
7.    CUNEGO Damiano    161    LAMPRE - ISD    4h 37' 01"    + 00' 15"
8.    CONTADOR Alberto    1    SAXO BANK SUNGARD    4h 37' 01"    + 00' 15"
9.    SCHLECK Andy    11    TEAM LEOPARD-TREK    4h 37' 01"    + 00' 15"
10.    SCHLECK Frank    18    TEAM LEOPARD-TREK    4h 37' 01"    + 00' 15"

GC

1.    HUSHOVD Thor    51    TEAM GARMIN - CERVELO    33h 06' 28"
2.    EVANS Cadel    141    BMC RACING TEAM    33h 06' 29"    + 00' 01"
3.    SCHLECK Frank    18    TEAM LEOPARD-TREK    33h 06' 32"    + 00' 04"
4.    KLÖDEN Andréas    74    TEAM RADIOSHACK    33h 06' 38"    + 00' 10"
5.    FUGLSANG Jakob    13    TEAM LEOPARD-TREK    33h 06' 40"    + 00' 12"
6.    SCHLECK Andy    11    TEAM LEOPARD-TREK    33h 06' 40"    + 00' 12"
7.    MARTIN Tony    175    HTC - HIGHROAD    33h 06' 41"    + 00' 13"
8.    VELITS Peter    179    HTC - HIGHROAD    33h 06' 41"    + 00' 13"
9.    MILLAR David    56    TEAM GARMIN - CERVELO    33h 06' 47"    + 00' 19"
10.    GILBERT Philippe    32    OMEGA PHARMA - LOTTO    33h 06' 58"    + 00' 30"

INABITSKI · « **Reply #452 on:** July 9, 2011, 04:12:32 pm »

Quote from: BMW on July 9, 2011, 04:08:43 pm

The question is can Thor wear the yellow jersey into the rest day?

Can't see it myself, not with the 7 climbs tomorrow.

kaz1983 · « **Reply #453 on:** July 9, 2011, 04:18:23 pm »

Quote from: INABITSKI on July 9, 2011, 04:12:32 pm

Can't see it myself, not with the 7 climbs tomorrow.

Me neither but you never know..

But seriously would love to know what odds he was paying to retain the yellow today.. would be interesting.

gjr1 · « **Reply #454 on:** July 9, 2011, 04:35:19 pm »

Very impressed with Cadel so far but it's still early days. At the start of the tour I didn't see him as much of a threat but he's looked better than anyone so far.

babraham · « **Reply #455 on:** July 9, 2011, 06:01:33 pm »

Quote from: babraham on July 8, 2011, 11:44:00 pm

So two Cat 4s followed by a Cat 2 and finishes on top of a Cat 3. Surely Thor can't do it again? I mean I wrote him off a few days ago on the hill top finish but surely not?

Ends with 1.5km at 7.6%. Hopefully this isn't another one of those stages where Andy loses 10s as the final kick is so short. Seems to prefer the proper big, long climbs.

And Thor makes me eat my words again. Terrific stuff from him!

The Schlecks looked good. Were only concerned about Contador and stuck to him nicely at the end there.

I laughed when Contador attacked, Andy stuck on his wheel and then when Evans and Cunego attacked, Andy just looked at them like they were a couple of nobodies!

It's clear that Contador is the only rider he's bothered about.

babraham · « **Reply #456 on:** July 9, 2011, 06:50:10 pm »

Can't figure this out lads - need some help.

The team classification is the total time of the top 3 riders in each team, right?

According to letour.fr, the team standings are:

Standing Team     Time     Gaps
1.     TEAM GARMIN - CERVELO 98h 30' 04"
2.     TEAM LEOPARD-TREK     98h 30' 08"     + 00' 04"

But here's the times for those teams' top 3 riders:

Standing Rider     Rider number bib Team     Time     Gaps
1.     HUSHOVD Thor     51     TEAM GARMIN - CERVELO   33h 06' 28"
3.     SCHLECK Frank     18     TEAM LEOPARD-TREK     33h 06' 32"    + 00' 04"
5.     FUGLSANG Jakob     13     TEAM LEOPARD-TREK     33h 06' 40"    + 00' 12"
6.     SCHLECK Andy     11     TEAM LEOPARD-TREK     33h 06' 40"    + 00' 12"
9.     MILLAR David     56     TEAM GARMIN - CERVELO   33h 06' 47"    + 00' 19"
21.     DANIELSON Tom     52     TEAM GARMIN - CERVELO   33h 08' 25"    + 01' 57"

Now 33h 06' 28" (Hushovd) + 33h 06' 47" (Millar) + 33h 08' 25" (Danielson) = 99h 21' 40" rather than the quoted 98h 30' 04"

And 33h 06' 32" (F. Schleck) + 33h 06' 40" (Fuglsang) + 33h 06' 40" (A.Schleck) = 99h 19' 52" rather than the quoted 98h 30' 08"

For the stage however, they both had 13h 51' 03" as both teams had 3 riders finish at 4h 37' 01". 3 X 4h 37' 01" does equal 13h 51' 03", so it works out.

*Lightbulb moment*
Never mind, just figured it out. It's not the sum of the top 3 riders overall - it's the sum of the top 3 riders per stage!

So for example, if a rider on Leopard other than the Schlecks and Fuglsang finished ahead of one of those 3 in any stage, his stage time would be used for the team calculation on that specific stage and thus the team times are lower than the sum of the top 3 riders.

That make sense?

You add the top 3 riders' times per stage, not the overall top 3 riders.

INABITSKI · « **Reply #457 on:** July 9, 2011, 06:53:21 pm »

Quote from: babraham on July 9, 2011, 06:50:10 pm

You add the top 3 riders' times per stage, not the overall top 3 riders.

Correct.

gramck24 · « **Reply #458 on:** July 9, 2011, 10:00:39 pm »

Excellent ride by Thor today... doing the maillot jaune some justice.

Surprised a little at Contador, thought he would be alright for the tour even with a tough giro. I know it will be in the mountains where it counts but he needs to close the gap on Schleck and Evans. Expected him to show a little more today but perhaps the giro has taken more out of him than first thought. The rest of his team doesn't seem up to much either in comparison to BMC and Trek Leopard.

Interesting days ahead.

gramck24 · « **Reply #459 on:** July 9, 2011, 10:05:57 pm »

STAGE 8 RESULT:
1. Rui Da Costa (Por/Movistar) 4 hours 36 minutes 46 seconds
2. Philippe Gilbert (Bel/Omega Pharma-Lotto) +12"
3. Cadel Evans (Aus/ BMC Racing Team) +15"
4. Samuel Sanchez (Spa/ Euskatel-Euskadi) +15"
5. Peter Velits (Slovakia/ HTC-Highroad) +15"
6. Dries Devenyns (Bel/ Quick Step Cycling Team) +15"
7. Damiano Cunego (Ita/ Lampre-ISD) +15"
8. Alberto Contador (Spa/ Saxo Bank Sungard) +15"
9. Andy Schleck (Lux/ Team Leopard-Trek) +15"
10. Frank Schleck (Lux/ Team Leopard-Trek) +15"

OVERALL STANDINGS:
1. Thor Hushovd (Nor/ Garmin-Cervelo) 33 hours 06 minutes 28 seconds
2. Cadel Evans (Aus/ BMC) +1"
3. Frank Schleck (Lux/ Leopard Trek) +4"
4. Andreas Kloeden (Ger/ RadioShack) +10"
5. Jakob Fuglsang (Den/ Leopard Trek) +12"
6. Andy Schleck (Lux/ Leopard Trek) +12"
7. Tony Martin (Ger/ HTC-Highroad) +13"
8. Peter Velits (Svk/ HTC-Highroad) +13"
9. David Millar (GB/ Garmin-Cervelo) +19"
10. Philippe Gilbert (Bel/Omega Pharma-Lotto) +30"

-------------------------------------------------------------------

STAGE 9 - Issoire > Saint-Flour 208 km

humph77 · « **Reply #460 on:** July 9, 2011, 10:44:10 pm »

Thor yet again sticks with the best - impressive and may even do so again tomorrow.

Good to see Sky showing throughout the stage after yesterdays shitty day with Zandio then Flecha out front and then G, EBH and Uran all finishing in top group.

Got to wonder whether G and EBH should have been directed to go straight away yesterday regardless of Wiggo as would have kept white and improved it today over surprisingly poor Gesink.

kcbworth · « **Reply #461 on:** July 10, 2011, 01:49:31 am »

Haha classic Cadel in the vid at http://www.foxsports.com.au/other-sports/tour-de-france/alberto-rui-costa-wins-stage-eight-of-tour-de-france-cadel-evans-finishes-third/story-e6frf5hu-1226091555193 (presume you can watch outside of Australia).

kaz1983 · « **Reply #462 on:** July 10, 2011, 07:05:13 am »

I just backed Thomas Voeckler at 11/1 (yes I know I could have got better odds on the internet) and Alexander Vinokourov at 12/1 (again yes I know I could have...) I reckon both riders are going to really want it badly, probably for different reasons but they both will see it as a missed opportunity if they can't get themselves in a position were they have a real good of take the stage out and that is what I'm betting on... that and the fact that Vinokourov has probably 2 attempts left to win another stage at the tour at the Tour - seeing this is the last year before he calls it a day and today's stage one of those stages. As for Voeckler, he as showed that he has good legs on him atm... hopefully he uses them to battle it out with Vinokourov to win todays stage.

kaz1983 · « **Reply #463 on:** July 10, 2011, 07:45:30 am »

Stage 9 finish. 1.5km at 6.1% with a righthand hairpin bend halfway up. Only last 100m is flat.

gramck24 · « **Reply #464 on:** July 10, 2011, 08:01:48 am »

Agree with Voeckler. But will Vino have the legs after yesterday's efforts?

Would have also included Chavanel for today's stage but he's had an awful start to the Tour so kind of ruled him out.

What about someone like Moncoutie? Or even one of the Sky riders Thomas/Hagen/Uran?

Probably Gilbert again though.

kaz1983 · « **Reply #465 on:** July 10, 2011, 08:14:42 am »

Quote from: gramck24 on July 10, 2011, 08:01:48 am

Agree with Voeckler. But will Vino have the legs after yesterday's efforts?

Thats what drugs are for and if it turns out he wins the stage due to being doped up to the eyeballs, well I won't have to give the bookies the money back put it that way...

Pheeny · « **Reply #466 on:** July 10, 2011, 08:58:38 am »

Quote from: BMW on July 10, 2011, 07:45:30 am

Stage 9 finish. 1.5km at 6.1% with a righthand hairpin bend halfway up. Only last 100m is flat.

perfect for Cav then...

hope_valley_parker · « **Reply #467 on:** July 10, 2011, 09:00:07 am »

Quote from: gramck24 on July 10, 2011, 08:01:48 am

Agree with Voeckler. But will Vino have the legs after yesterday's efforts?

It's easier when you have someone else's blood inside you

Komic · « **Reply #468 on:** July 10, 2011, 09:08:22 am »

I know this isn't to do with the Tour de France, but talking to a friend yesterday and he told me about his uncle breaking his own 24 hour record a little while ago. Did 541 miles.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/Tix9iF3reSE" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/Tix9iF3reSE</a>

gramck24 · « **Reply #469 on:** July 10, 2011, 09:40:35 am »

Quote from: BMW on July 10, 2011, 08:14:42 am

Thats what drugs are for and if it turns out he wins the stage due to being doped up to the eyeballs, well I won't have to give the bookies the money back put it that way...

Are you suggesting that Vino may not have repented his past sins and is not now leading a clean life?

the 92A · « **Reply #470 on:** July 10, 2011, 10:46:20 am »

Undecided on Vino. I think he might well repeat yesterday with better results, he's definitely seems up for it

kaz1983 · « **Reply #471 on:** July 10, 2011, 11:47:00 am »

The weather forecast at the finish in Saint-Flour is not ideal: although there are patches of sun, there is also rain and thunder forecast.

INABITSKI · « **Reply #472 on:** July 10, 2011, 12:42:40 pm »

Gesink managed to get himself dropped from the peloton on the first climb, along with Millar and Cavendish. 6 leaders so far with a gap of over 3 mins.

Pheeny · « **Reply #473 on:** July 10, 2011, 12:51:50 pm »

Quote from: INABITSKI on July 10, 2011, 12:42:40 pm

Gesink managed to get himself dropped from the peloton on the first climb, along with Millar and Cavendish. 6 leaders so far with a gap of over 3 mins.

heard Millar crashed?

kaz1983 · « **Reply #474 on:** July 10, 2011, 12:59:20 pm »

Yep Millar crashed, silly bugger.

INABITSKI · « **Reply #475 on:** July 10, 2011, 01:00:52 pm »

Didn't realise Millar was in the crash.

13:13:55 CEST

We had a crash at 40km, with Millar (Garmin), Zeits (Astana), Zubeldia (RadioShack) and Bak (HTC-Highroad) all involved. All are back up and going.

Two riders have already dropped off the back of the peloton: Brutt of Katusha, and more worrisome, Robert Gesink of Rabobank.

kaz1983 · « **Reply #476 on:** July 10, 2011, 01:11:28 pm »

Voeckler has got himself into the break, he is in virtual yellow.

INABITSKI · « **Reply #477 on:** July 10, 2011, 02:08:31 pm »

Big crash on the descent few guys off the side of the road possibly Evans and some other big names.

Looks bad for Vinoukourov.

shankstheman · « **Reply #478 on:** July 10, 2011, 02:14:04 pm »

Vino has just climbed into the car after that bad crash.

INABITSKI · « **Reply #479 on:** July 10, 2011, 02:15:06 pm »

Van den Broeck looks like end of the race for him too.

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