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Re: Stefan Bajčetić
« Reply #1680 on: May 1, 2024, 07:37:39 am »
I wonder if Baj will force his way into the first team if he impresses Slot in preseason. No doubt we will bring in a DM but it's up to Baj to change Slot's mind.

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Re: Stefan Bajčetić
« Reply #1681 on: May 1, 2024, 09:26:18 am »
Would love to see him get some first team minutes before the end of the season too.

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Re: Stefan Bajčetić
« Reply #1682 on: May 1, 2024, 09:41:35 am »
Would love to see him get some first team minutes before the end of the season too.

He's doing 90mins in the next u21s then hopefully he gets minutes for the first team.

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Re: Stefan Bajčetić
« Reply #1683 on: May 1, 2024, 09:53:01 am »
I honestly believe if he can stay fit next season, the DM spot is his. Between him and Endo we have enough quality in that position. Endo was superb until March or so and his form dropped off at the same time as the rest of the squad. Next season we can have both Baj and Endo rotating and I can see Baj making it his position by the end of the season.

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Re: Stefan Bajčetić
« Reply #1684 on: May 1, 2024, 10:34:51 am »
I honestly believe if he can stay fit next season, the DM spot is his. Between him and Endo we have enough quality in that position. Endo was superb until March or so and his form dropped off at the same time as the rest of the squad. Next season we can have both Baj and Endo rotating and I can see Baj making it his position by the end of the season.

Imo Slot will bring in a no6 for his double pivot

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Re: Stefan Bajčetić
« Reply #1685 on: May 1, 2024, 10:39:59 am »
Imo Slot will bring in a no6 for his double pivot

100% you can't go into another season with Endo who can't do 2 games a week and Bajcetic off basically a year out through injury as your 6 options for a team who relies massively on that position.

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Re: Stefan Bajčetić
« Reply #1686 on: May 1, 2024, 10:42:53 am »
100% you can't go into another season with Endo who can't do 2 games a week and Bajcetic off basically a year out through injury as your 6 options for a team who relies massively on that position.

Think we will see Mac moved up closer to the Front players …. A new no 6 and a top one will imo be high on Slots list

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Re: Stefan Bajčetić
« Reply #1687 on: May 1, 2024, 11:06:35 am »
Think we will see Mac moved up closer to the Front players …. A new no 6 and a top one will imo be high on Slots list

Yep we played our best football with Endo in the 6 and Mac pushed further forward, Endo has done a great job but we need a long term "robust" solution there to really compete.

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Re: Stefan Bajčetić
« Reply #1688 on: May 1, 2024, 11:22:00 am »
Yep we played our best football with Endo in the 6 and Mac pushed further forward, Endo has done a great job but we need a long term "robust" solution there to really compete.

That worked right up until teams worked us out and targeted the pair of them. As a pairing, they aren't very press-resistant in deep areas and lack athleticism. Bajcetic is a real talent but there are also question marks over how quick he is. He is brilliant at flying into challenges but isn't the quickest in a foot race. He has had a huge growth spurt so hopefully his body catches up and he gets quicker.
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Re: Stefan Bajčetić
« Reply #1689 on: May 1, 2024, 12:26:23 pm »
That worked right up until teams worked us out and targeted the pair of them. As a pairing, they aren't very press-resistant in deep areas and lack athleticism. Bajcetic is a real talent but there are also question marks over how quick he is. He is brilliant at flying into challenges but isn't the quickest in a foot race. He has had a huge growth spurt so hopefully his body catches up and he gets quicker.

Agree with that. I do think we got away with it until you point you mention. There have been games earlier in the season where we were physically dominated (Newcastle away, Crystal Palace away being examples, games we pinched having been dominated for 75 minutes...taking off Endo Steptoe for Elliot ramped up the mobility vs Newcastle, and Palace going down to 10, decisive factors in both). We never won away to Abu Dhabi, Arse, Man U, Spurs (we don't know how that would have gone though) and Chelsea...and at home to those five we have only beat Chelsea (who were in midtable). Away especially you need a strong, athletic midfield, "men" as Souness would correctly say. West Ham away, again, weak. Bowen breezing past that slow 6, the 6 then pulling back another player who had gone past him for which he got a booking. If we fail to win at Villa (think it's likely), we will have won one away to the top nine, and that a robbery at Newcastle.

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To see a Jurgen Klopp side, "heavy metal football" (hasn't been for two years), get bullied, overpowered, outrun, and manhandled, in midfield, was damning. What was worse was less than 72 hours later he picked the same feller at the heart of the crime scene, to start against Palace, the opposition (Will Hughes et al) who had already targeted him at their place. What transpired in the first half with the slow, unathletic goosed lad on the field was inevitable. With him hooked Jurgen tried to salvage it in the second half but yet another comeback mission was too much. You can only go to the well so many times, and we had more than used up our quota for the season.

Watching Bayern vs Madrid last night, that Madrid midfield, full of power and athleticism (again like us once) would humiliate us even more. Camavinga coming on from the bench..if he did so against us I'd hope the ref would show mercy and stop the game.


Regards Bajcetic, i'm really not sure what his exact position is. Technically he looks elite, but does he have the physical characteristics to play the 6?. The game at Wolves last season when they scored, it was him who got done there and couldn't recover. The massacre at home to Madrid in Feb '23, to see him languish behind the breakaway midfielders as they easily scored to make it five, that's not what is needed for someone in such a key position who is meant to provide a barrier to our backline.
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Re: Stefan Bajčetić
« Reply #1690 on: May 1, 2024, 05:28:22 pm »
Baj is awesome, period. i also still think that Gravenberch could well be a dm unicorn, hes got everything everyone keeps asking for in terms of close control, size, speed etc. Clearly he needs to up his intensity and toughness somewhat but if you close your eyes you can easily imagine a younger faster stronger fabhino lurking in there somewhere.

Those 2 and endo might make a damn good start on a dm base, if slots going to play 2 then you bring in one more perhaps (if dom or mac are not considered) and you have 4 for 2 perfect.
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Re: Stefan Bajčetić
« Reply #1691 on: May 1, 2024, 05:43:16 pm »
Baj is awesome, period. i also still think that Gravenberch could well be a dm unicorn, hes got everything everyone keeps asking for in terms of close control, size, speed etc. Clearly he needs to up his intensity and toughness somewhat but if you close your eyes you can easily imagine a younger faster stronger fabhino lurking in there somewhere.

I think Ryan has superb skills but he is - by far - the most lightweight / non-physical of all our players. 

if he was given the 6 role I think we'd all be closing our eyes .....

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Re: Stefan Bajčetić
« Reply #1692 on: May 5, 2024, 05:53:40 pm »
Great to see the lad back  :scarf :scarf :scarf

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Re: Stefan Bajčetić
« Reply #1693 on: May 5, 2024, 06:27:00 pm »
he was really improving as the game went on.
think he will be a real option for us nxt season

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Re: Stefan Bajčetić
« Reply #1694 on: May 5, 2024, 06:27:23 pm »
Congrats on the comeback kid. He’s got a bright future.

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Re: Stefan Bajčetić
« Reply #1695 on: May 5, 2024, 06:28:35 pm »
Great to see him back!

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Re: Stefan Bajčetić
« Reply #1696 on: May 5, 2024, 06:29:28 pm »
Maybe he’ll start the game against wolves. Struggled as expected when he came on but grew as the game went on.

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Re: Stefan Bajčetić
« Reply #1697 on: May 5, 2024, 06:30:08 pm »
Good to see him back. Hopefully he can have a good pre-season and be an option for us again next year.
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Re: Stefan Bajčetić
« Reply #1698 on: May 5, 2024, 06:50:05 pm »
I hope he bulks up a bit before next season.
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Re: Stefan Bajčetić
« Reply #1699 on: May 5, 2024, 06:53:47 pm »
Awful for the first 10 minutes ;D

Seemed to figure it out after that though.
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Re: Stefan Bajčetić
« Reply #1700 on: May 5, 2024, 07:51:33 pm »
Think he showed his intelligence within minutes of stepping on the pitch - that's something no matter how long you're out you will always have - but clearly his legs weren't following lol.

I'd say we don't need to buy a new DM. Let Endo do it for another season and Baj will take the responsibility after.

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Re: Stefan Bajčetić
« Reply #1701 on: May 5, 2024, 07:52:49 pm »
Think he showed his intelligence within minutes of stepping on the pitch - that's something no matter how long you're out you will always have - but clearly his legs weren't following lol.

I'd say we don't need to buy a new DM. Let Endo do it for another season and Baj will take the responsibility after.

Nah, we definitely need another midfielder. Its nowhere close to the midfield City and Arsenal are able to put out.

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Re: Stefan Bajčetić
« Reply #1702 on: May 5, 2024, 07:54:08 pm »
Awful for the first 10 minutes ;D

Seemed to figure it out after that though.
That’s not bad considering how long some take to shake off the rust and none have been out as long.
If his body is ready I think he’ll have a major role next season. Looking forward to seeing him blossom
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Re: Stefan Bajčetić
« Reply #1703 on: May 5, 2024, 07:58:25 pm »
Think he showed his intelligence within minutes of stepping on the pitch - that's something no matter how long you're out you will always have - but clearly his legs weren't following lol.

I'd say we don't need to buy a new DM. Let Endo do it for another season and Baj will take the responsibility after.

Thought he got away with a couple of soft fouls when he was easily brushed off the ball, but he was smart enough to go down and make sure to win the foul. The sort other DM's win all the time. Being Liverpool though they're often not given for us and they could have been in.

Natural to be off the pace after more than 12 months out though. Klopp would have thought it was a good opportunity to give him minutes at 4-0 up. The minutes will do him good
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Re: Stefan Bajčetić
« Reply #1704 on: May 5, 2024, 08:01:35 pm »
Glad to see him back.

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Re: Stefan Bajčetić
« Reply #1705 on: May 5, 2024, 08:07:50 pm »
Klopp admitting he was a bit off the pace but said he's looked really good in training. May as well get rid of some of the rust now.
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« Reply #1706 on: May 5, 2024, 08:13:25 pm »
Klopp admitting he was a bit off the pace but said he's looked really good in training. May as well get rid of some of the rust now.

Yep - not really got anything to play for now but pride, we're effectively guaranteed to finish 3rd regardless of remaining results. Will be good for Bajcetic to get some minutes in his legs ahead of hopefully a good pre-season - every little helps for next year. Thought he looked understandably rusty having not played a PL game in well over a year, but you can see the talent there and I'm excited to see how he fares next season.

I will say, there was a lot of chat that he'd massively bulked up but can't say I really noticed it? He looks naturally a little bigger but no more so than in the way you'd expect at his age.

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Re: Stefan Bajčetić
« Reply #1707 on: May 5, 2024, 08:14:37 pm »
Looked rusty, as you expect, but great to see him back and hopefully he can make a big contribution next season. Will probably appreciate Slot's preference for a double pivot (if that's indeed what we do). Could save us a fortune.

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Re: Stefan Bajčetić
« Reply #1708 on: May 5, 2024, 08:27:40 pm »
great to see him back.

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Re: Stefan Bajčetić
« Reply #1709 on: May 5, 2024, 08:37:25 pm »
Loved seeing him come on. He was way off the pace and our overall play suffered as a result, but he should be far, far better next season. Really looking forward to seeing more of him.

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Re: Stefan Bajčetić
« Reply #1710 on: May 5, 2024, 08:39:27 pm »
Last time he played first team football was March 2023? Grew into the game, such an intelligent player.

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Re: Stefan Bajčetić
« Reply #1711 on: May 5, 2024, 08:47:17 pm »
Hope we see him start a game before the end of the season. So good to see him back.

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Re: Stefan Bajčetić
« Reply #1712 on: May 5, 2024, 09:51:09 pm »
He’s some prospect and already a player! We’ll build the team around him in a few years. Or maybe next season. :D

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Re: Stefan Bajčetić
« Reply #1713 on: May 5, 2024, 10:03:02 pm »
He is going to be an excellent player for us in that midfield as either a six or an eight. Spent the first 15 minutes running like the tin man today, but last 10 minutes put in a couple of crunching tackles and was starting to get into his stride. Hope he gets some minutes against Wolves and Villa too.

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Re: Stefan Bajčetić
« Reply #1714 on: May 5, 2024, 10:43:32 pm »
Loved seeing him come on. He was way off the pace and our overall play suffered as a result, but he should be far, far better next season. Really looking forward to seeing more of him.

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Re: Stefan Bajčetić
« Reply #1715 on: May 5, 2024, 11:46:44 pm »
Haven't watched the game yet, so how tall is he... six-four, six-eight, eight-six??...

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Re: Stefan Bajčetić
« Reply #1716 on: May 5, 2024, 11:50:08 pm »
Last time he played first team football was March 2023? Grew into the game, such an intelligent player.

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Re: Stefan Bajčetić
« Reply #1717 on: May 6, 2024, 12:06:20 am »
I've been convinced for ages that this kid is the golden child. Just look at how he plays ball. He's exceptional in every way other than not having huge pace. He's not even slow but some seem to be worried about this aspect of his game which I think is mental.  No point mentioning players that play that role who didn't have speed cause there's fucking loads of them.

The only game where he was made to look a bit foolish was against Madrid. At the time he was our in form midfielder even though he was a kid. I'm not taking anything away from him for that since the whole team collapsed.

Him and Mac as a double pivot could be something brilliant.

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Re: Stefan Bajčetić
« Reply #1718 on: May 6, 2024, 12:48:17 am »
Nice to see him back. Couldn't expect much today and don't expect much in the short term. Between the time missed and his growth spurt it'll take a huge readjustment. Huge boost though and a big talent.

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Re: Stefan Bajčetić
« Reply #1719 on: May 6, 2024, 02:50:59 am »
Big step today, lovely to see him back. Ok he started slowly, which is to be expected. There was one occasion where he got his toe in, twice, in quick succession to break them down and keep the out. I hope he sees more action before the end of the season. It’s hard to say what young players will go on to do. There’s every chance this lad could become a key player for us for many years to come, the ideal scenario being another year or two growing, seeing more action, until eventually it is irresistible and he becomes a main man in midfield. Good luck to that lad, I hope it happens.