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Bakez0151 · « **Reply #61840 on:** December 10, 2019, 12:10:44 PM »

It just seems like fake news to say that Joshua has been fighting bums. Maybe the heavyweight division isn't the strongest and of course we're waiting for the big fights with Fury and Wilder, but he hasn't been fighting bums. That's just not true.

Roughie Scouse · « **Reply #61841 on:** December 10, 2019, 01:00:35 PM »

Quote from: Bakez0151 on December 10, 2019, 12:10:44 PM

It just seems like fake news to say that Joshua has been fighting bums. Maybe the heavyweight division isn't the strongest and of course we're waiting for the big fights with Fury and Wilder, but he hasn't been fighting bums. That's just not true.

His CV is better than any of the others.

Ravishing Rick Rude · « **Reply #61842 on:** December 10, 2019, 01:12:23 PM »

Quote from: Roughie Scouse on December 10, 2019, 01:00:35 PM

His CV is better than any of the others.

Aye, not a big fan of AJ, but he won against Klitschko, Whyte, Parker, Povetkin. Now it's time to fight someone like Fury, Wilder or Usyk. Eventually i believe he will.

Lusty · « **Reply #61843 on:** December 10, 2019, 01:23:04 PM »

Quote from: Ravishing Rick Rude on December 10, 2019, 01:12:23 PM

Aye, not a big fan of AJ, but he won against Klitschko, Whyte, Parker, Povetkin. Now it's time to fight someone like Fury, Wilder or Usyk. Eventually i believe he will.

Yeah I think you can argue that all 4 of those are better than anything on Wilder's CV (maybe not Povetkin anymore) and he's has twice as many fights. Fury has beaten Wlad but not much else.

I think if anything, AJ has been moved along a bit too quickly, but I suppose that opportunity when Charles Martin somehow picked up a belt was too good to miss, and then once you're a champ you can't really drop a level and get rounds.

King.Keita · « **Reply #61844 on:** December 10, 2019, 01:25:22 PM »

Quote from: Lusty on December 10, 2019, 01:23:04 PM

Yeah I think you can argue that all 4 of those are better than anything on Wilder's CV (maybe not Povetkin anymore) and he's has twice as many fights. Fury has beaten Wlad but not much else.

I think if anything, AJ has been moved along a bit too quickly, but I suppose that opportunity when Charles Martin somehow picked up a belt was too good to miss, and then once you're a champ you can't really drop a level and get rounds.

I’ll never ever understand how that was allowed to happen

Lusty · « **Reply #61845 on:** December 10, 2019, 01:32:55 PM »

Quote from: The King with the Keita the sherry cabinet. on December 10, 2019, 01:25:22 PM

I’ll never ever understand how that was allowed to happen

He didn't even have to throw a punch!

I doubt AJ would have gone straight into a World Title shot if Glazkov won. They'd have held him back a bit.

Clayton Bigsby · « **Reply #61846 on:** December 10, 2019, 02:12:31 PM »

Quote from: Lusty on December 10, 2019, 01:32:55 PM

He didn't even have to throw a punch!

I doubt AJ would have gone straight into a World Title shot if Glazkov won. They'd have held him back a bit.

Charles Martin was the absolute definition of a paper champ. Hope he spent that money wisely though, best decision a boxer has ever made imo selling that belt

1892tillforever · « **Reply #61847 on:** December 10, 2019, 03:55:12 PM »

Quote from: Clayton Bigsby on December 10, 2019, 02:12:31 PM

Charles Martin was the absolute definition of a paper champ. Hope he spent that money wisely though, best decision a boxer has ever made imo selling that belt

An argument can be made that he is the worst ever HW champion. With the likes of Damiani and Carnera, that is quite a claim but I stick with it!

Lusty · « **Reply #61848 on:** December 10, 2019, 04:25:37 PM »

Quote from: 1892tillforever on December 10, 2019, 03:55:12 PM

An argument can be made that he is the worst ever HW champion. With the likes of Damiani and Carnera, that is quite a claim but I stick with it!

At least they both defended it at least once! Martin held the title for all of 85 days, only Tony Tucker had less, and at least he put in a decent effort at defending it against a prime Tyson.

It's a crowded field though. I think Ruiz might be at the top of some people's list eventually, along with the other fluke winners like Rahman, Douglas, Sanders. At least they knocked someone out to win it though, Martin just had to watch someone fall over in front of him.

Samie · « **Reply #61849 on:** December 11, 2019, 12:38:28 PM »

Quote from: dakid on December 9, 2019, 10:37:12 PM

Maybe Ruiz would have. But Joshua won't and he won't let Fury, Wilder or Ortiz fight him anytime soon either.

https://www.balls.ie/boxing/anthony-joshua-set-avoid-fury-wilder-next-two-fights-422011

What a stupid article. He has to take mandatory defenses otherwise he's stripped of the belts and you don't get an Undisputed champion like everyone wants. Unification tops Mandatories but Wilder is fighting Fury ergo this is a stupid article.

Clayton Bigsby · « **Reply #61850 on:** December 11, 2019, 03:12:55 PM »

Hopefully Joshua can fight 3 times next year. Mandatory in March Usyk In Summer and Fury/wilder winner late in year

1892tillforever · « **Reply #61851 on:** December 11, 2019, 09:52:23 PM »

Quote from: Lusty on December 10, 2019, 04:25:37 PM

At least they both defended it at least once! Martin held the title for all of 85 days, only Tony Tucker had less, and at least he put in a decent effort at defending it against a prime Tyson.

It's a crowded field though. I think Ruiz might be at the top of some people's list eventually, along with the other fluke winners like Rahman, Douglas, Sanders. At least they knocked someone out to win it though, Martin just had to watch someone fall over in front of him.

All three had some talent; Douglas was a good fighter but was very much in the Ruiz-school of preparation. All three would starch Martin inside 3 rounds!

Incidentally, Glazkov (who 'lost' to Martin) hasn't fought since, and probably won't.

Lusty · « **Reply #61852 on:** December 11, 2019, 10:13:32 PM »

Quote from: 1892tillforever on December 11, 2019, 09:52:23 PM

All three had some talent; Douglas was a good fighter but was very much in the Ruiz-school of preparation. All three would starch Martin inside 3 rounds!

Incidentally, Glazkov (who 'lost' to Martin) hasn't fought since, and probably won't.

Well they all had to knock someone out to win their titles so that counts for something. Martin just had to stand there.

Glazkov's situation sounds like the origin story for the next Marvel villain.

Broad Spectrum · « **Reply #61853 on:** December 12, 2019, 12:31:17 AM »

Dillian Whyte reinstated as WBC mandatory challenger and has suspension lifted

gwalk · « **Reply #61854 on:** December 12, 2019, 07:43:35 AM »

good weekend ahead in MSG

Crawford v Kavaliauskas (WBO Welter)

Commey v Lopez (IBF Lightweight)

Conlan v Nikitin (rematch from Rio 2016 controversy)

Lusty · « **Reply #61855 on:** December 12, 2019, 12:59:43 PM »

Quote from: gwalk on December 12, 2019, 07:43:35 AM

good weekend ahead in MSG

Crawford v Kavaliauskas (WBO Welter)

Commey v Lopez (IBF Lightweight)

Conlan v Nikitin (rematch from Rio 2016 controversy)

Good undercard with a weak main event I think.

Kavaliauskas has only got one good name on his record in Ray Robinson, and he's been dead for 30 years.

Samie · « **Reply #61856 on:** December 13, 2019, 06:38:52 PM »

This is the last big card of the year unless you like Strawweight action from Japan over the Christmas/New year period.

Clayton Bigsby · « **Reply #61857 on:** December 13, 2019, 06:49:50 PM »

Quote from: Lusty on December 12, 2019, 12:59:43 PM

Good undercard with a weak main event I think.

Kavaliauskas has only got one good name on his record in Ray Robinson, and he's been dead for 30 years.

Arvanesian, the one Josh Kelly ducked, is a good name too

1892tillforever · « **Reply #61858 on:** December 14, 2019, 04:25:25 PM »

Quote from: Lusty on December 12, 2019, 12:59:43 PM

Good undercard with a weak main event I think.

Kavaliauskas has only got one good name on his record in Ray Robinson, and he's been dead for 30 years.

He couldn't even beat the ghost of Ray Robinson

Crawford will take him to school.

Samie · « **Reply #61859 on:** December 15, 2019, 01:24:36 PM »

Crawford wins semi easily over night. Kavalauskas was more than decent to be fair.

Samie · « **Reply #61860 on:** December 15, 2019, 02:12:42 PM »

In other news today, Tyson Fury has split with his coach. I think it's Ben Davidson?

Lusty · « **Reply #61861 on:** December 15, 2019, 02:29:32 PM »

Quote from: Samie on December 15, 2019, 02:12:42 PM

In other news today, Tyson Fury has split with his coach. I think it's Ben Davidson?

Always seemed a bit mad that he went with him in the first place considering he was basically a fitness instructor from what I'd read. I thought Freddie Roach probably had more to do with the Wilder fight than him.

Reninds me of that guy George Groves got in after he split with Booth because he said he didn't need a trainer.

Samie · « **Reply #61862 on:** December 15, 2019, 02:38:12 PM »

Your man in the avy needs a fitness instructor badly.

Alf · « **Reply #61863 on:** December 15, 2019, 03:44:05 PM »

Enjoyed the Crawford - Mean Machine fight last night and Conlan - Nikitin. Just heard that Tyson Fury and Ben Davison have parted company.

Lusty · « **Reply #61864 on:** December 15, 2019, 04:06:56 PM »

Quote from: Samie on December 15, 2019, 02:38:12 PM

Your man in the avy needs a fitness instructor badly.

People come in all shapes and sizes mate, don't be a hater

Lusty · « **Reply #61865 on:** December 17, 2019, 04:19:34 PM »

Quote from: Alf on December 15, 2019, 03:44:05 PM

Enjoyed the Crawford - Mean Machine fight last night and Conlan - Nikitin. Just heard that Tyson Fury and Ben Davison have parted company.

He's gone with Javan 'Sugar' Hill, Manny Steward's nephew.

Joshua's offered to help out with sparring

Samie · « **Reply #61866 on:** December 17, 2019, 04:28:02 PM »

The fuck does everyone add " Sugar" as their nickname?

There's only 4 people worthy of the nickname " Sugar" and that's Ray Robinson, Ray Leonard, Shane Mosley and Chris Eubank Jr.

Lusty · « **Reply #61867 on:** December 17, 2019, 04:36:06 PM »

Quote from: Samie on December 17, 2019, 04:28:02 PM

The fuck does everyone add " Sugar" as their nickname? There's only 4 people worthy of the nickname " Sugar" and that's Ray Robinson, Ray Leonard, Shane Mosley and Chris Eubank Jr.

Clearly the greatest among them...

'Kid' is worse.

Samie · « **Reply #61868 on:** December 17, 2019, 04:48:39 PM »

Aye that's another one.

Here's the Fury quotes about Aj and sparring mate.

Tyson Fury says he would "love" to take up Anthony Joshua's offer of sparring before he faces Deontay Wilder.

https://bbc.in/35xuT5k

Lusty · « **Reply #61869 on:** December 19, 2019, 09:39:31 PM »

Chavez Jr has failed to make the weight for his fight with Jacobs tomorrow. Not like him...

gwalk · « **Reply #61870 on:** December 20, 2019, 07:39:23 AM »

Quote from: Lusty on December 19, 2019, 09:39:31 PM

Chavez Jr has failed to make the weight for his fight with Jacobs tomorrow. Not like him...

sure he had it moved from Vegas to pheonix because he wouldnt enrol in the mandatory testing

Clayton Bigsby · « **Reply #61871 on:** December 20, 2019, 07:45:57 AM »

Chavez jnr should just give up

Samie · « **Reply #61872 on:** December 20, 2019, 02:01:57 PM »

Chavez Jr was fighting as a Heavyweight right?

mkferdy · « **Reply #61873 on:** December 20, 2019, 06:02:24 PM »

Kell Brook back, swear he said he was only interested in the big fights

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/boxing/50865318

King.Keita · « **Reply #61874 on:** December 20, 2019, 07:40:49 PM »

Kell Brook fighting another tomato can. In other news, grass is green.

Clayton Bigsby · « **Reply #61875 on:** December 20, 2019, 07:54:36 PM »

How can a class fighter have so many Latvians on his record?

What a waste of a career

Lusty · « **Reply #61876 on:** December 20, 2019, 08:10:19 PM »

Kell Brook fighting a tomato can? Chavez jr failing to make weight? We're playing all the hits this week.

Somewhere out there Amir Khan must be walking onto a left hook.

Fordy · « **Reply #61877 on:** December 20, 2019, 08:43:26 PM »

Quote from: Clayton Bigsby on December 20, 2019, 07:54:36 PM

How can a class fighter have so many Latvians on his record?

What a waste of a career

Amir running away from him still?

Clayton Bigsby · « **Reply #61878 on:** December 20, 2019, 08:58:36 PM »

Quote from: Fordy on December 20, 2019, 08:43:26 PM

Amir running away from him still?

Never change Fordy. Never change

Lusty · « **Reply #61879 on:** December 20, 2019, 09:30:58 PM »

Quote from: Fordy on December 20, 2019, 08:43:26 PM

Amir running away from him still?

Happy Christmas mate