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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59480 on: January 12, 2019, 02:24:20 PM »
If the Khan v Brook fight did happen in some parallel world, who would win? I think Khan on points due to his speed and workrate, but he would definitely get dropped atleast once.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59481 on: January 12, 2019, 07:38:59 PM »

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Fair play to Khan taking on the bigger and better name. He’ll lose and quite badly but he’ll be remembered as someone that took the big fights and didnt back down from a challenge. Sorry Fordy but Khan may be the one that got away, happens mate.

He won't he will be remembered as an Olympian who had some brutal knockdowns.
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59482 on: January 12, 2019, 08:06:07 PM »
He won't he will be remembered as an Olympian who had some brutal knockdowns.

Perhaps

Much the same as Brooks, less the ‘Olympian’
I believe the average spend will go up £5 ahead and that’s being very conservative. So that’s £185k. Then you have a new 25k who will spend £10 a head that’s £250k. This is without the massively enhanced hospitality areas.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59483 on: January 12, 2019, 11:00:28 PM »
Bunce reckons Wlad is coming out of retirement to fight Whyte and AJ is off to America to fight Miller.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59484 on: January 12, 2019, 11:55:39 PM »
Bunce reckons Wlad is coming out of retirement to fight Whyte and AJ is off to America to fight Miller.

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The Wembley date isn't selling out mate hence why AJ is off.

Hearn has messed up here.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59485 on: January 13, 2019, 12:07:37 AM »
If the Khan v Brook fight did happen in some parallel world, who would win? I think Khan on points due to his speed and workrate, but he would definitely get dropped atleast once.
Still think Khan would get flattened.

Bunce reckons Wlad is coming out of retirement to fight Whyte and AJ is off to America to fight Miller.

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Bunce must be on glue. Why would Wlad come out of retirement to fight Dillian fucking Whyte?  ;D

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59486 on: January 13, 2019, 09:04:29 AM »
Perhaps

Much the same as Brooks, less the ‘Olympian’

Can't recall Brook ever being being brutally knocked out.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59487 on: January 13, 2019, 09:34:11 AM »
Fury looks in good shape, thought he might have spent his purse on mince pies over xmas. Warren thinks April for the Wilder rematch so I expect Joshua v Whyte also in the spring then hopefully Fury v Joshua for all the belts in Sept. I had a decent bet with a mate a couple of years ago that Fury would beat AJ should they ever meet so hopefully he gets past Whyte!

There's no way Fury fights AJ in September. If he beat Wilder there'll be a rematch, if he loses then he's not ranked anywhere near high enough to fight AJ so it won't get sanctioned.
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59488 on: January 13, 2019, 09:44:29 AM »
Can't recall Brook ever being being brutally knocked out.

Quitting is seen as worse.

What is Duran best known for?

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59489 on: January 13, 2019, 11:59:25 AM »
Quitting is seen as worse.

What is Duran best known for?
True, but it is an indelible stain on Duran's record because he was so great.

Let's be honest, no one is going to remember Brook (the slayer of Jo Jo Dan and Frankie Gavin) for much. Let alone his losses to GGG and Spence.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59490 on: January 13, 2019, 12:49:21 PM »
I dont think back on Roberto Duran for quitting against Leonard but maybe I'm biased. He was one of my favourite boxers as a lad, all time great in a golden era.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59491 on: January 13, 2019, 01:07:02 PM »
Quitting is seen as worse.

What is Duran best known for?

Brook quit because he had a fractured skull.  Duran quit because he'd been on the piss for 6 months and couldn't take the pace.  Bit different.

And I'm not convinced that's the only thing Duran is remembered for.  Somehow you've been a bit harsh on Brook and Duran there ;D

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59492 on: January 13, 2019, 01:12:24 PM »
Brook quit because he had a fractured skull.  Duran quit because he'd been on the piss for 6 months and couldn't take the pace.  Bit different.

And I'm not convinced that's the only thing Duran is remembered for.  Somehow you've been a bit harsh on Brook and Duran there ;D

I'm sure if Brook reads this he'll be happy to get mentioned in the same sentence as Duran  :)

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59493 on: January 13, 2019, 01:43:42 PM »
Brook was right to quit, as bad as it looked ta the time he was right to quit. Just as Vitali was right to quit when he did against Byrd despite being up by about 10 rounds. For the longest time though he was called Quitscko

Duran is an ATG. It would have been an honour to have been around in his prime to watch his fights live. But rightly or wrongly, 'no mas' is a big part of his legacy.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59494 on: January 13, 2019, 01:48:20 PM »
Brook quit because he had a fractured skull.  Duran quit because he'd been on the piss for 6 months and couldn't take the pace.  Bit different.

And I'm not convinced that's the only thing Duran is remembered for.  Somehow you've been a bit harsh on Brook and Duran there ;D
I thought it was his eye socket and he was having double vision? Anyway can't knock Brook for quitting, he had every right to. GGG was close to dropping him in that fight and he was seriously risking his eyesight if he carried on any longer.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59495 on: January 13, 2019, 02:13:00 PM »
Can't recall Brook ever being being brutally knocked out.

‘Got brutally knocked out’ and ‘had to quit because his face was being rearranged. Twice’ are pretty much of a muchness Fordy. They’re both very wealthy blokes, and both very brave blokes for stepping into a ring to fight someone else. Particularly after getting battered. But they’ve both made questionable decisions in their career which has meant neither of them has lived up to the early promise.
I believe the average spend will go up £5 ahead and that’s being very conservative. So that’s £185k. Then you have a new 25k who will spend £10 a head that’s £250k. This is without the massively enhanced hospitality areas.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59496 on: January 13, 2019, 02:13:07 PM »
I'm sure if Brook reads this he'll be happy to get mentioned in the same sentence as Duran  :)

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59497 on: January 13, 2019, 02:16:07 PM »
Brook's next opponent will tell us everything we need to know about him

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59498 on: January 13, 2019, 05:16:03 PM »
Brook's next opponent will tell us everything we need to know about him

Depends. He went back down to 147 so now it looks Amir is running away then he might go back
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59499 on: January 13, 2019, 05:29:44 PM »
Depends. He went back down to 147 so now it looks Amir is running away then he might go back
Up.
He can't be fighting Frankie Gavin type opponents at this stage of his career. Getting the big fights isn't always easy in boxing but his team needs to get him in a world title bout in his next fight or the one after.

‘Got brutally knocked out’ and ‘had to quit because his face was being rearranged. Twice’ are pretty much of a muchness Fordy. They’re both very wealthy blokes, and both very brave blokes for stepping into a ring to fight someone else. Particularly after getting battered. But they’ve both made questionable decisions in their career which has meant neither of them has lived up to the early promise.
Spot on. Boxers are braver than the average, and neither Brook nor Khan can be labelled 'cowards'.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59500 on: January 14, 2019, 01:34:17 PM »
If Charlie Adam and Kell Brook came to blows who would Fordy do a screwjob on?  ;D

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59501 on: January 14, 2019, 01:42:04 PM »
Kell Brook called out by Jeff Horn

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59502 on: January 14, 2019, 01:49:04 PM »
Kell Brook called out by Jeff Horn

We're still in JoJo Dan territory then...

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59503 on: January 14, 2019, 01:53:24 PM »
We're still in JoJo Dan territory then...

Bet he takes it

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59504 on: January 14, 2019, 02:22:36 PM »
If Charlie Adam and Kell Brook came to blows who would Fordy do a screwjob on?  ;D

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59505 on: January 14, 2019, 03:28:37 PM »
Hopefully an AJ v Miller PPV will be the straw that breaks the camels back and the public tell hearn they've had enough of this shit.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59506 on: January 14, 2019, 05:42:00 PM »
I’ve no interest in AJ fighting Miller & if the fight happens in the US. I won’t be staying up or paying for it. I don’t think Joshua did himself any favours at the Whyte-Chisora rematch.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59507 on: January 14, 2019, 05:58:27 PM »
So when Khan doesn’t fight Brook, he’s got Crawford lined up.

When Brook doesn’t fight Khan, he’s offered Jeff Horn

Hmmm
I believe the average spend will go up £5 ahead and that’s being very conservative. So that’s £185k. Then you have a new 25k who will spend £10 a head that’s £250k. This is without the massively enhanced hospitality areas.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59508 on: January 14, 2019, 06:16:44 PM »
So when Khan doesn’t fight Brook, he’s got Crawford lined up.

When Brook doesn’t fight Khan, he’s offered Jeff Horn

Hmmm
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59509 on: January 14, 2019, 07:36:18 PM »
Bet he takes it

Says it all that Horn would probably be the best name on his CV outside Porter.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59510 on: January 14, 2019, 07:46:20 PM »
Bet he takes the Horn fight and then fights another two Latvian electricians in Sheffield. Seems to be the way his career goes.

AJ V Miller is such a letdown of a fight, Miller is s pudding who wears a skirt to his fights. He needs to take the Whyte fight to shut him up then go all out in calling out Wilder. Whyte also needs to step up the competition a bit, someone like Ortiz would give him a world of problems, even Usyk would.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59511 on: January 14, 2019, 08:00:29 PM »
I’ve no interest in AJ fighting Miller & if the fight happens in the US. I won’t be staying up or paying for it. I don’t think Joshua did himself any favours at the Whyte-Chisora rematch.
I think it could be a great fight in all honesty. Miller will come out swinging for the fences, so we could get 4-5 rounds of good action before AJ KO's him. As an introduction to a US audience, they could do far worse.

Whyte has earned a rematch and it could also be a very good fight while it lasts.

The trouble with the HW division is that any fight AJ takes aside from Wilder or Fury will be met with derision. Miller is an unbeaten loudmouth so it makes perfect sense to use him as a platform. The alternatives are a bit shit. Pulev is a solid fighter but is stylistic heaven for Joshua.

Says it all that Horn would probably be the best name on his CV outside Porter.
I had to double check, and you're right. Brook's CV is pretty damned bare.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59512 on: January 15, 2019, 01:23:54 PM »
Amir Khan says Terence Crawford "is beatable".

Just not by him obviously.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59513 on: January 15, 2019, 04:48:36 PM »
I had to double check, and you're right. Brook's CV is pretty damned bare.

When he won the world title and then fought Kevin Bizier, Frankie Gavin & Jo Jo Dan. That's why I shake my head when I hear Eddie Hearn criticise James DeGale for fighting in the US after he won the IBF title.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59514 on: January 16, 2019, 06:17:29 PM »
Wilder Vs Fury 2 has been sanctioned by WBC

Purse negotiations start now til 5th Feb. If no deal is made then it will be 60/40 in Wilders favour

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59515 on: January 16, 2019, 06:46:19 PM »
Wilder Vs Fury 2 has been sanctioned by WBC

Purse negotiations start now til 5th Feb. If no deal is made then it will be 60/40 in Wilders favour

Right decision, but I'd kind of rather see either against Joshua.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59516 on: January 16, 2019, 06:49:46 PM »
Right decision, but I'd kind of rather see either against Joshua.
Not going to happen anytime soon, these two have unfinished business that needs sorting. Joshua will just have to wait and maybe take the Whyte or Miller fight as a tune-up

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59517 on: January 16, 2019, 07:27:50 PM »
Not going to happen anytime soon, these two have unfinished business that needs sorting. Joshua will just have to wait and maybe take the Whyte or Miller fight as a tune-up

He might be waiting for a year at least if there's a rematch clause. He's basically treading water till 2020.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59518 on: January 16, 2019, 07:31:16 PM »
Amir Khan says Terence Crawford "is beatable".

Just not by him obviously.
Lolz.

Same way as Canelo fight, Amir win the early rounds and Crawford will find his range and it will be lights out for Amir (Again) about round 4 or 5.

Crawford gets it on with Spence later in 2019, fingers crossed.
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59519 on: January 16, 2019, 10:58:37 PM »
Lolz.

Same way as Canelo fight, Amir win the early rounds and Crawford will find his range and it will be lights out for Amir (Again) about round 4 or 5.

Crawford gets it on with Spence later in 2019, fingers crossed.
I think Crawford will box the ears off Spence if and when it happens. Khan will be competitive for a while but end up on his arse in the mid-rounds.