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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #64120 on: September 16, 2020, 08:06:41 PM »
How many fights has Usyk had to be so far up the rankings?

Parker has been calling out Whyte the last week or so, Usyk and Parker would be a decent fight i reckon.



He's only had one Heavyweight fight but his WBO ranking comes because he was the Undisputed Cruiserweight champion and so he's automatically WBO's #1 contender because of their stipulation.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #64121 on: September 16, 2020, 08:09:20 PM »
Mate,Why do you care about that when Charles Martin is #2 ranked by the IBF?  ;D

Fucking hell, I missed that!

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #64122 on: September 16, 2020, 09:49:57 PM »
Sorry, but who’s Trevor Bryan?
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #64123 on: September 16, 2020, 10:26:49 PM »
Sorry, but who’s Trevor Bryan?
A guy who hasn't fought in two years  :lmao :lmao :lmao

These rankings are hilarious. I was ranked #7 by the WBC until I retired with my unbeaten record last year (0-0).

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #64124 on: September 16, 2020, 10:37:08 PM »
You didn't fight me when I called you out . Meet me outside Greggs next week you fucker.  :wanker

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #64125 on: September 17, 2020, 09:08:49 AM »
AJ not in the WBC rankings  :o ;D

And Boxing wonders why less and less people give a fuck

I thought that was always the case if you're a champion with one of the other bodies?  Fury not ranked by any of the others either for the same reason.

Edit: ranking are, and always have been, bollocks.  Just this particular aspect is alright.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #64126 on: September 17, 2020, 09:17:01 AM »
You didn't fight me when I called you out . Meet me outside Greggs next week you fucker.  :wanker
You're on. Loser buys the steak bakes.  8)

I thought that was always the case if you're a champion with one of the other bodies?  Fury not ranked by any of the others either for the same reason.

Edit: ranking are, and always have been, bollocks.  Just this particular aspect is alright.
You're only saying that because you've never been ranked higher than #8  :P

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #64127 on: September 17, 2020, 09:31:39 AM »
You're only saying that because you've never been ranked higher than #8  :P

How dare you.  I'm a former *World Champion I'll have you know!




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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #64128 on: September 20, 2020, 02:18:40 PM »
I see talk's of a new division being created in between Crusierweight and Heavyweight is back in the works.  This shit comes up evrey few years but with now being the era of Super  Heavies seems like the talk's are a bit more serious this time.  There's even been a commission set up with Bellew on it too. ;D

Light Heavy- 175lb limit

Cruser- 200lb limit

Heavy- Anything beyond 200lbs

But you have Heavies nowadays coming in at over 250 lbs.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #64129 on: September 20, 2020, 08:22:32 PM »
I see talk's of a new division being created in between Crusierweight and Heavyweight is back in the works.  This shit comes up evrey few years but with now being the era of Super  Heavies seems like the talk's are a bit more serious this time.  There's even been a commission set up with Bellew on it too. ;D

Light Heavy- 175lb limit

Cruser- 200lb limit

Heavy- Anything beyond 200lbs

But you have Heavies nowadays coming in at over 250 lbs.

All the while you have cruisers coming up and winning titles I don't think it's necessary. The real test case is going to be when Usyk gets in amongst the likes of Fury and Joshua.

Wilder has weighed under 220 for most of his career and he's a big heavyweight.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #64130 on: September 20, 2020, 08:29:10 PM »
Even Wilder can be seen as a "Small" Heavyweight mate.  If he's coming in at 220 and others now coming in at 250 + that's a massive difference in Heavyweight circles.

I actually think if this get's enough traction we'll get a new division, probably called Small Heavyweight.  ;D

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #64131 on: September 21, 2020, 09:02:52 AM »
But if Wilder has been sparking out all these giants for the last few years then what's the problem being a small HW?  I think there's a natural limit to how big a HW can get while still being effective so I don't think we're going to get 25 stone giants ruling the division any time soon.

It'll just become another division like CW where no one really cares and everyone in it wants to be a HW really.  But another set of belts and more sanctioning fees which is what they really care about.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #64132 on: September 21, 2020, 09:45:06 AM »
That too mate. We all could do with a few more belts.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #64133 on: September 21, 2020, 12:39:00 PM »
Whenever this topic comes up I can't help thinking of the biggest HW champ ever, Valuev, who got beat by David Haye coming up from CW.  He also lost to Holyfield in most people's eyes, another CW champ.  I don't think size is everything up at that level.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #64134 on: September 21, 2020, 11:47:33 PM »
Usually not mate but with advancement's in technology, nutrition etc if a 265lb ripped athlete is punching a 215lb heavyweight it can lead to serious damage  if not careful.  That's a big difference in weight.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #64135 on: September 23, 2020, 01:15:36 PM »
Usyk v Chisora 31st of October Sky Box Office.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #64136 on: September 23, 2020, 01:34:58 PM »
PPV is a bit daft for that.  Should be an interesting fight though if we get the good version of Delboy.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #64137 on: September 23, 2020, 01:39:07 PM »
First real Heavyweight test for Usyk (His one and only HW fight was a joke). I expect Usyk to win but Derek is going to land a few bombs and it will be interesting to see how Usyk copes.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #64138 on: September 23, 2020, 01:43:21 PM »
Usyk v Chisora 31st of October Sky Box Office.

Good test for Usyk. Chisora is far from elite, but he's a big, tough lump.

Be interesting to see how Usyk responds when Chisora tries to maul him and rough him up up close.
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #64139 on: September 23, 2020, 04:48:56 PM »
PPV is a bit daft for that.  Should be an interesting fight though if we get the good version of Delboy.

It’s the only way of getting them to fight so they can make a bit of coin with no crowds

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #64140 on: September 23, 2020, 10:16:53 PM »
Might be tight first few rounds but I expect Usyk to school him after that.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #64141 on: September 24, 2020, 12:23:05 PM »
Kalle Sauerland eyeing up a  Heavyweight World Super Series boxing tournament next year. With the winner facing the whoever wins between Joshua v Fury.  An example he gave is



They're also eyeing up a Light Heavyweight series as well as a female Welterweight series too.
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #64142 on: September 24, 2020, 12:45:51 PM »
Replace Dillian Whyte. He is a PPV fighter in his own right, amazingly. Great idea though
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #64143 on: September 24, 2020, 12:51:45 PM »
I think Chisora & Usyk will be a good fight while it lasts. Going with Usyk by stoppage in the second half of the fight.
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #64144 on: September 24, 2020, 02:09:11 PM »
Kalle Sauerland eyeing up a  Heavyweight World Super Series boxing tournament next year. With the winner facing the whoever wins between Joshua v Fury.  An example he gave is



They're also eyeing up a Light Heavyweight series as well as a female Welterweight series too.

Ha ha trying to do over Whyte again...

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #64145 on: September 24, 2020, 02:32:34 PM »
Kalle Sauerland eyeing up a  Heavyweight World Super Series boxing tournament next year. With the winner facing the whoever wins between Joshua v Fury.  An example he gave is



They're also eyeing up a Light Heavyweight series as well as a female Welterweight series too.

Never realised how much Daniel Dubois looks like a Football Manager regen ;D

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #64146 on: September 24, 2020, 02:55:37 PM »
Ha ha trying to do over Whyte again...

Whyte did himself over by getting ko'd by Povetkin

Bangkok Ladyboys went down a treat ... so probably do them again  ;D ;D


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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #64147 on: September 24, 2020, 02:57:46 PM »
Whyte could be involved if they go ahead with it lads. That was just a mock up.

A HW super series has been tough to negotiate. I remember there was ideas to have one back in 2017.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #64148 on: September 24, 2020, 03:02:47 PM »
I think this goes ahead if all the boards agree to release their mandatories to open up the chance for AJ/Fury to take all the belts, then to fight the winner.

Bangkok Ladyboys went down a treat ... so probably do them again  ;D ;D


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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #64149 on: September 24, 2020, 04:06:15 PM »
great idea, too bad Al Haymon won't allow Ruiz and Ortiz to enter it! I don't recall any PBC fighter entering the WBSS. Perhaps replace them with Hrgovic and Joyce.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #64150 on: September 24, 2020, 04:15:57 PM »
I think this goes ahead if all the boards agree to release their mandatories to open up the chance for AJ/Fury to take all the belts, then to fight the winner.

I think that if AJ or Fury do manage to unify the belts, they won't last long.  They'll be scattered amongst the mandatories and interims and probably the winner of any tournament like this (aka Usyk) will end up with a couple of them.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #64151 on: September 24, 2020, 04:41:04 PM »
I think that if AJ or Fury do manage to unify the belts, they won't last long.  They'll be scattered amongst the mandatories and interims and probably the winner of any tournament like this (aka Usyk) will end up with a couple of them.
It’s ridiculous really. Having an undisputed champion should be the ultimate goal, but it’s the last thing the organisations want as it means less money for the gravy train
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #64152 on: September 24, 2020, 05:07:12 PM »
I think that if AJ or Fury do manage to unify the belts, they won't last long.  They'll be scattered amongst the mandatories and interims and probably the winner of any tournament like this (aka Usyk) will end up with a couple of them.

Oh they won't. They'll have them for the rematch and probably one mandatory fight after that, probably the winner of the super series if it goes ahead, then they'll be stripped of most of them for the $$$$$$$$$$

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #64153 on: September 24, 2020, 06:37:25 PM »
Oh they won't. They'll have them for the rematch and probably one mandatory fight after that, probably the winner of the super series if it goes ahead, then they'll be stripped of most of them for the $$$$$$$$$$

If there's a rematch they'll have to drop one of the belts, can't remember which it is, but one of the orgs doesn't recognise rematches. Whichever one Fury flushed down the toilet when he got stripped.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #64154 on: September 25, 2020, 11:37:07 PM »

Conor McGregor 'boxing Manny Pacquiao next' in Middle East. McGregor says he's fighting Manny.


https://twitter.com/BBCSport/status/1309618609329668096

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #64155 on: September 25, 2020, 11:54:15 PM »
Conor McGregor 'boxing Manny Pacquiao next' in Middle East. McGregor says he's fighting Manny.


https://twitter.com/BBCSport/status/1309618609329668096

I am still waiting for you to announce Brook versus Khan Adam.
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #64156 on: September 25, 2020, 11:58:02 PM »
 ;D

Fordy would be torn. Don;t want him to become unwell from all the pressure Al.

As for the circus fight, Well unless he want's to be KO'd in a much worse fashion, Connor better shut up.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #64157 on: September 26, 2020, 12:24:36 AM »
I am still waiting for you to announce Brook versus Khan Adam.

Brook going for bigger fish now.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #64158 on: September 26, 2020, 07:24:21 AM »
Conor McGregor 'boxing Manny Pacquiao next' in Middle East. McGregor says he's fighting Manny.


https://twitter.com/BBCSport/status/1309618609329668096

Hopefully the bookies will be giving away free money again like when he fought Floyd.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #64159 on: September 26, 2020, 05:33:17 PM »
Hopefully the bookies will be giving away free money again like when he fought Floyd.
Manny doesn't have it in him to take a few rounds off and carry McGregor like Floyd did. I can see him just getting to work and busting up McGregor, giving little value for money barring among those of us who want to see McGregor battered  :D