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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59280 on: January 9, 2019, 11:49:26 pm »
No boxer that ever laces them up is a coward full stop

And Khan in particular has been game for pretty much anyone during his career to be fair to him.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59281 on: January 9, 2019, 11:54:26 pm »
Hold on, isn't he a coward for ducking Brook to take the harder Crawford fight?  :P

Exactly  ;) I was being facetious

Not sure why there’s this utter desperation to see Khan/Brook anyway, it’s not like it’s two of the greats like Mayweather Vs Pacquiao. It’s essentially two gobshites who people want to see get knocked out, to varying degrees. If they both retired tomorrow, I’d say Khan retires with the better career so maybe that’s why Brook comes across as more desperate for it.
If he's being asked to head the ball too frequently - which isn't exactly his specialty - it could affect his ear and cause an infection. Especially if the ball hits him on the ear directly.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59282 on: January 10, 2019, 04:08:41 am »
Brook would batter Smith. Different levels. I'd be surprised if Liam won another world title, the one he did win was pretty much gift wrapped for him by Santa himself

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59283 on: January 10, 2019, 05:41:16 am »
Brook would batter Smith. Different levels. I'd be surprised if Liam won another world title, the one he did win was pretty much gift wrapped for him by Santa himself

I politely and entirely disagree there. Brook would be favourite but Liam is as tough as they come.

I did wonder where Liam might have jumped to be on the same card as Callum when they make the Anfield card. It’d be great to see 3 of the brothers fighting there

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59284 on: January 10, 2019, 07:21:02 am »
Apparently Anfield is more expensive than Wembley to book. Unless AJ finds his way up there Anfield wont be getting booked anytime soon.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59285 on: January 10, 2019, 07:28:44 am »
Ha ha funny lads.

Maybe, Khan wants the April 13th date with Brook.

It just seems funny that Josh hasn't announced his next fight yet.

Don't think Wembley is getting full now on that date but Khan has his heads in the clouds.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59286 on: January 10, 2019, 09:41:16 am »
Apparently Anfield is more expensive than Wembley to book. Unless AJ finds his way up there Anfield wont be getting booked anytime soon.
You can book wembley 3 times for the price of anfield apparently..
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59287 on: January 10, 2019, 11:15:30 am »
Brook would batter Smith. Different levels. I'd be surprised if Liam won another world title, the one he did win was pretty much gift wrapped for him by Santa himself

12 months ago I'd have agreed with you, but after Brook's last showing I would make Smith a very live underdog.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59288 on: January 10, 2019, 09:09:00 pm »
Apparently Anfield is more expensive than Wembley to book. Unless AJ finds his way up there Anfield wont be getting booked anytime soon.

They will mate, they are just negotiating and it’s Hearn bluster. Guaranteed we see the Smith brothers and a UFC card with Darren Till there

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59289 on: January 10, 2019, 09:21:08 pm »
You can book wembley 3 times for the price of anfield apparently..
That's ridiculous, why are they pricing themselves out?

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59290 on: January 11, 2019, 12:29:44 am »
So, Broner vs Manny at the weekend.

Does anyone care?

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59291 on: January 11, 2019, 01:28:37 pm »
So, Broner vs Manny at the weekend.

Does anyone care?

Broner's accountant I suppose.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59292 on: January 11, 2019, 03:39:46 pm »
Anyone else listen to Fight Disciples podcast? Decent listen, and Nick Peet’s a red which is always good.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59293 on: January 11, 2019, 07:04:22 pm »
So, Broner vs Manny at the weekend.

Does anyone care?
Didn't even know about it! If it is anything other than a Pacman UD I'll be shocked. He ain't stopping Broner but Broner ain't good enough to beat even an aging Pac.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59294 on: January 11, 2019, 07:49:55 pm »
So, Broner vs Manny at the weekend.

Does anyone care?
It's next weekend

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59295 on: January 12, 2019, 02:00:37 am »
It's next weekend
Yeah, so it is. Just saw the ad for it on TV and said Saturday. ITV4 I think.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59296 on: January 12, 2019, 11:27:49 am »
Looks like khan v Cawford is official.

Will be interested to see what brook does next? Latvian or champion?

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59297 on: January 12, 2019, 11:33:33 am »
Khan is a let down.

Credit to him for taking the nick out of Hearn though. KHan was always going to swerve the Brook fight. He's too scared to fight Brook because he hates the thought of getting beat by a British fighter.


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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59298 on: January 12, 2019, 11:40:19 am »
Looks like khan v Cawford is official.

Will be interested to see what brook does next? Latvian or champion?

His last fight was a final eliminator for WBA.  No idea if that means he gets a shot at the regular title, gold title, super title, or super duper title.

Probably Liam Smith after he gets back on track.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59299 on: January 12, 2019, 11:55:45 am »
Fury looks in good shape, thought he might have spent his purse on mince pies over xmas. Warren thinks April for the Wilder rematch so I expect Joshua v Whyte also in the spring then hopefully Fury v Joshua for all the belts in Sept. I had a decent bet with a mate a couple of years ago that Fury would beat AJ should they ever meet so hopefully he gets past Whyte!

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59300 on: January 12, 2019, 12:03:33 pm »
If Fury wins there will be  a rematch

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59301 on: January 12, 2019, 12:37:33 pm »
Fury looks in good shape, thought he might have spent his purse on mince pies over xmas. Warren thinks April for the Wilder rematch so I expect Joshua v Whyte also in the spring then hopefully Fury v Joshua for all the belts in Sept. I had a decent bet with a mate a couple of years ago that Fury would beat AJ should they ever meet so hopefully he gets past Whyte!
He'll remain focused and motivated for as long as he has a shot of winning the title and being 'the man' in the Heavyweight division. I fear for him after retirement though.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59302 on: January 12, 2019, 01:04:33 pm »
Khan is a let down.

Credit to him for taking the nick out of Hearn though. KHan was always going to swerve the Brook fight. He's too scared to fight Brook because he hates the thought of getting beat by a British fighter.

Think he’s shown throughout his entire career he’s not scared of anyone. Why would he fight Brook when he can go to MSG and fight one of the P4P fighters in the world? Mad how people think he’s ducking Kell Brook, a fighter no-one will remember in years to come based on his current career.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59303 on: January 12, 2019, 01:46:58 pm »
Khan is a let down.

Credit to him for taking the nick out of Hearn though. KHan was always going to swerve the Brook fight. He's too scared to fight Brook because he hates the thought of getting beat by a British fighter.


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Fair play to Khan taking on the bigger and better name. He’ll lose and quite badly but he’ll be remembered as someone that took the big fights and didnt back down from a challenge. Sorry Fordy but Khan may be the one that got away, happens mate.
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59304 on: January 12, 2019, 02:24:20 pm »
If the Khan v Brook fight did happen in some parallel world, who would win? I think Khan on points due to his speed and workrate, but he would definitely get dropped atleast once.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59305 on: January 12, 2019, 07:38:59 pm »

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Fair play to Khan taking on the bigger and better name. He’ll lose and quite badly but he’ll be remembered as someone that took the big fights and didnt back down from a challenge. Sorry Fordy but Khan may be the one that got away, happens mate.

He won't he will be remembered as an Olympian who had some brutal knockdowns.
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59306 on: January 12, 2019, 08:06:07 pm »
He won't he will be remembered as an Olympian who had some brutal knockdowns.

Perhaps

Much the same as Brooks, less the ‘Olympian’
If he's being asked to head the ball too frequently - which isn't exactly his specialty - it could affect his ear and cause an infection. Especially if the ball hits him on the ear directly.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59307 on: January 12, 2019, 11:00:28 pm »
Bunce reckons Wlad is coming out of retirement to fight Whyte and AJ is off to America to fight Miller.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59308 on: January 12, 2019, 11:55:39 pm »
Bunce reckons Wlad is coming out of retirement to fight Whyte and AJ is off to America to fight Miller.

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The Wembley date isn't selling out mate hence why AJ is off.

Hearn has messed up here.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59309 on: January 13, 2019, 12:07:37 am »
If the Khan v Brook fight did happen in some parallel world, who would win? I think Khan on points due to his speed and workrate, but he would definitely get dropped atleast once.
Still think Khan would get flattened.

Bunce reckons Wlad is coming out of retirement to fight Whyte and AJ is off to America to fight Miller.

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Bunce must be on glue. Why would Wlad come out of retirement to fight Dillian fucking Whyte?  ;D

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59310 on: January 13, 2019, 09:04:29 am »
Perhaps

Much the same as Brooks, less the ‘Olympian’

Can't recall Brook ever being being brutally knocked out.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59311 on: January 13, 2019, 09:34:11 am »
Fury looks in good shape, thought he might have spent his purse on mince pies over xmas. Warren thinks April for the Wilder rematch so I expect Joshua v Whyte also in the spring then hopefully Fury v Joshua for all the belts in Sept. I had a decent bet with a mate a couple of years ago that Fury would beat AJ should they ever meet so hopefully he gets past Whyte!

There's no way Fury fights AJ in September. If he beat Wilder there'll be a rematch, if he loses then he's not ranked anywhere near high enough to fight AJ so it won't get sanctioned.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59312 on: January 13, 2019, 09:44:29 am »
Can't recall Brook ever being being brutally knocked out.

Quitting is seen as worse.

What is Duran best known for?

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59313 on: January 13, 2019, 11:59:25 am »
Quitting is seen as worse.

What is Duran best known for?
True, but it is an indelible stain on Duran's record because he was so great.

Let's be honest, no one is going to remember Brook (the slayer of Jo Jo Dan and Frankie Gavin) for much. Let alone his losses to GGG and Spence.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59314 on: January 13, 2019, 12:49:21 pm »
I dont think back on Roberto Duran for quitting against Leonard but maybe I'm biased. He was one of my favourite boxers as a lad, all time great in a golden era.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59315 on: January 13, 2019, 01:07:02 pm »
Quitting is seen as worse.

What is Duran best known for?

Brook quit because he had a fractured skull.  Duran quit because he'd been on the piss for 6 months and couldn't take the pace.  Bit different.

And I'm not convinced that's the only thing Duran is remembered for.  Somehow you've been a bit harsh on Brook and Duran there ;D

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59316 on: January 13, 2019, 01:12:24 pm »
Brook quit because he had a fractured skull.  Duran quit because he'd been on the piss for 6 months and couldn't take the pace.  Bit different.

And I'm not convinced that's the only thing Duran is remembered for.  Somehow you've been a bit harsh on Brook and Duran there ;D

I'm sure if Brook reads this he'll be happy to get mentioned in the same sentence as Duran  :)

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59317 on: January 13, 2019, 01:43:42 pm »
Brook was right to quit, as bad as it looked ta the time he was right to quit. Just as Vitali was right to quit when he did against Byrd despite being up by about 10 rounds. For the longest time though he was called Quitscko

Duran is an ATG. It would have been an honour to have been around in his prime to watch his fights live. But rightly or wrongly, 'no mas' is a big part of his legacy.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59318 on: January 13, 2019, 01:48:20 pm »
Brook quit because he had a fractured skull.  Duran quit because he'd been on the piss for 6 months and couldn't take the pace.  Bit different.

And I'm not convinced that's the only thing Duran is remembered for.  Somehow you've been a bit harsh on Brook and Duran there ;D
I thought it was his eye socket and he was having double vision? Anyway can't knock Brook for quitting, he had every right to. GGG was close to dropping him in that fight and he was seriously risking his eyesight if he carried on any longer.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59319 on: January 13, 2019, 02:13:00 pm »
Can't recall Brook ever being being brutally knocked out.

‘Got brutally knocked out’ and ‘had to quit because his face was being rearranged. Twice’ are pretty much of a muchness Fordy. They’re both very wealthy blokes, and both very brave blokes for stepping into a ring to fight someone else. Particularly after getting battered. But they’ve both made questionable decisions in their career which has meant neither of them has lived up to the early promise.
If he's being asked to head the ball too frequently - which isn't exactly his specialty - it could affect his ear and cause an infection. Especially if the ball hits him on the ear directly.