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Offline Lusty

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59240 on: December 4, 2018, 09:23:38 PM »
Nobody actually cares about who wins either in the main - unless you're a fanboy of course - as long as they're fighting each other and actually making the big fights as Holyfield, Tyson, Lewis etc all did

Eventually  ;)

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59241 on: December 4, 2018, 09:25:19 PM »
Nobody actually cares about who wins either in the main - unless you're a fanboy of course - as long as they're fighting each other and actually making the big fights as Holyfield, Tyson, Lewis etc all did
True.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59242 on: December 4, 2018, 09:28:53 PM »

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59243 on: December 4, 2018, 09:52:45 PM »
He certainty did baptize him  ;D

Almost!

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59244 on: December 5, 2018, 01:56:54 AM »
You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59245 on: December 5, 2018, 09:18:29 AM »

If only if were that simple in boxing eh?  :( If we're lucky we may see AJ in with one of them in 2019 but I honestly wouldn't hold my breath. It is interesting if Wilder is suddenly looking for the big payday that a fight with Joshua would bring now that the whole world knows how lucky he is to still have his world title. It is almost as if his team realise that he isn't this unbeatable monster  ::)

Unfortunately, we'll have to suffer Joshua fight at least one pudding in 2019, although I for one would not complain if he fights Jarell Miller as that could be a fun fight while it lasts.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59246 on: December 5, 2018, 09:41:50 AM »
I believe Jarrell needs to come over and fight on undercard if he is to be a suitable dance partner. Its not o2 anymore. Its all stadiums now and people need to know who he is.

Whyte is in driving seat now, his fight with chisora will be a stinker i feel. No risks from Dillyan, so close to getting knocked out again by AJ and the payday that commands

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59247 on: December 5, 2018, 09:55:34 AM »
Who is AJ's next mandatory? Will it be Whyte if he beats Chisora?
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59248 on: December 5, 2018, 10:04:04 AM »
Eventually  ;)

Indeed

Ideal scenario is AJ fights Wilder for his April date in a massive unification fight and then whoever wins fights Fury in the summer for all the belts

Either way, people want to see AJ against Fury or Fury rematch against Wilder.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59249 on: December 5, 2018, 10:25:57 AM »
Who is AJ's next mandatory? Will it be Whyte if he beats Chisora?

The other champions get priority over mandatories, so Wilder is easy enough to make.

Otherwise I think he has to fight Pulev at some point and Whyte if he wins. I think he has a bit of time though so April could be a voluntary.

As 7s said the easiest fight to make is probably Wilder. I don't think he can fight Fury for a while without dropping one or more belts.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59250 on: December 5, 2018, 10:55:47 AM »
Wilder is easy enough but I think he'll be fighting Fury again next, do looks like it'll be Whyte next for AJ
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59251 on: December 5, 2018, 03:22:46 PM »
Wilder is easy enough but I think he'll be fighting Fury again next, do looks like it'll be Whyte next for AJ
Assuming he beats Chisora in the rematch, Whyte will have earned a second crack but even so, it's a bit meh  :( He is probably fuming that he didnt get a chance to fight Wilder now  ;D

I believe Jarrell needs to come over and fight on undercard if he is to be a suitable dance partner. Its not o2 anymore. Its all stadiums now and people need to know who he is.

Whyte is in driving seat now, his fight with chisora will be a stinker i feel. No risks from Dillyan, so close to getting knocked out again by AJ and the payday that commands
You're right of course, only big boxing fans have heard of Miller (and he needs to lose about three stone IMO). Maybe we'll see Whyte face Miller if he beats Chisora (I believe they have traded insults) while AJ will probably fight Pulev in April if the Wilder vs Fury rematch takes place.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59252 on: December 5, 2018, 05:25:13 PM »
Got to throw Usyk in as a wildcard here as well. If I remember correctly the champ automatically gets a title shot in the division above if he wants one. So when he officially moves up he'll be mandatory for pretty much all the belts.

Best case scenario I think is that Wilder takes the AJ fight in April and the winner goes for Usyk in September. Fury will have to spend 2019 getting properly tuned up and sorting his ranking out.

If Wilder and Fury have a rematch then AJ is going to have to continue his war on moobs for the time being.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59253 on: December 7, 2018, 11:43:06 AM »
Heard Brook talking the last few days about Khan in the build up to his fight... He seems so dejected by the whole situation. We all know it has dragged, but you get the feeling he genuinely believed this 3 fight Khan/Hearn deal meant he was certain to get his hands on Amir. Not so.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59254 on: December 7, 2018, 12:46:20 PM »
Lomachenko is getting hype as a potential all-time great already. Fighting this weekend.

""Vasiliy Lomachenko is technically the best fighter that I have seen since the early Muhammad Ali," Bob Arum said when he signed the Ukrainian to a professional contract.

And you know what? Arum could be correct.

Prologue to Lomachenko's professional success was his splendid 396-1 amateur career that included gold medals at the 2008 and 2012 Olympic Games. It was as an amateur that he earned his rep as being both singular and terrifying."

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59255 on: December 7, 2018, 12:48:10 PM »
Heard Brook talking the last few days about Khan in the build up to his fight... He seems so dejected by the whole situation. We all know it has dragged, but you get the feeling he genuinely believed this 3 fight Khan/Hearn deal meant he was certain to get his hands on Amir. Not so.

Bad as each other

Id love them both to get knocked out a few times in a row and end up fighting at some working mens club in Blackpool
Yeah, for thinking Kane is better than Torres/Bergkamp. Crazy opinion.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59256 on: December 7, 2018, 12:56:53 PM »
Heard Brook talking the last few days about Khan in the build up to his fight... He seems so dejected by the whole situation. We all know it has dragged, but you get the feeling he genuinely believed this 3 fight Khan/Hearn deal meant he was certain to get his hands on Amir. Not so.

I gave Khan loads of shit on here for basically putting his career on hold waiting for this big fight against Mayweather or Pacquaio, and I stand by that, but Brook has basically done the same with Khan.  Apart from Porter his CV is terrible.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59257 on: December 7, 2018, 08:02:16 PM »
Brook has been fighting nothing but tomato cans for most of his career and he's fighting another tomorrow. Beat Porter so I'll give him credit for that but he was never going to beat GGG and he got a boxing lesson from Spence.

Khan is also far too transparent, he's clearly chasing a big fight and has no intention of facing anyone like Thurman, Spence or even rematch Garcia. All would drop him inside 8.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59258 on: December 7, 2018, 09:07:45 PM »
WBC have sanctioned the Wilder-Fury rematch, Wilder won't lose his title by not facing his mandatory challenger.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59259 on: December 8, 2018, 10:32:48 PM »
Wtf is brook wearing :lmao
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59260 on: December 8, 2018, 10:33:55 PM »
WTF is he fighting!

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59261 on: December 8, 2018, 10:34:40 PM »
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59262 on: December 8, 2018, 10:37:25 PM »
WTF is he fighting!
:lmao :lmao

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59263 on: December 8, 2018, 10:45:45 PM »
:lmao :lmao

Begs the question why Im watching this.

Yeah I'm not sure of that myself! Not like we haven't seen Kell Brook blow away a Latvian and then call out Amir Khan before...

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59264 on: December 8, 2018, 10:48:08 PM »
Any links or is it done?
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59265 on: December 8, 2018, 10:51:53 PM »
Any links or is it done?


Have a look here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/BoxingStreams/comments/a4d283/event_threadkell_brook_vs_michael_zerafa_super/

It's not a classic though so don't stress yourself trying to find it!

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59266 on: December 8, 2018, 11:05:25 PM »
Brook absolutely phoning this in.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59267 on: December 8, 2018, 11:20:23 PM »
Go on Kell, call out Khan again
Yeah, for thinking Kane is better than Torres/Bergkamp. Crazy opinion.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59268 on: December 8, 2018, 11:26:05 PM »
Go on Kell, call out Khan again
Lo and behold. Getting very boring from the both of them.
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59269 on: December 8, 2018, 11:54:34 PM »
If they do fight each other, hope they knock each other out. It's not a superfight so I don't know why the British public treats it like one.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59270 on: December 9, 2018, 12:08:29 AM »
If they do fight each other, hope they knock each other out. It's not a superfight so I don't know why the British public treats it like one.
It isn't but it will attract interest and I would buy the PPV to see Khan get starched. It needs to happen more or less next fight for each though, otherwise whatever interest there still is will dwindle to nothing.

Aside from being a pair of fannies, there is no reason why this fight doesnt happen next. Both are desperate to remain relevant, both have been stopped relatively recently, neither is threatening elite fighters, and both could do with an end of career payday.

Lusty's WMC in Blackpool shout might not be far off the mark  ;D

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59271 on: December 9, 2018, 11:43:21 AM »
Who is AJ's next mandatory? Will it be Whyte if he beats Chisora?

Yes his next mandatory will be the WBO, which will be Whyte if he beats Chisora. Hes likely to be mandated to fight Pulev again in 2020 by the IBF.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59272 on: December 9, 2018, 12:10:08 PM »
Watching the Lomachenko/Pedraza fight. Amazing rally of 42 punches from Loma to put Pedraza on the deck for the 1st knockdown. Anthony Crolla will warm every penny if he fights him.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59273 on: December 9, 2018, 12:24:40 PM »
Not even sure Loma fight him. WBA arent big on enforcing mandatories and it is a bit 'beneath' him.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59274 on: December 9, 2018, 01:05:40 PM »
First time watching kell brook , very average fighter imo

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59275 on: December 9, 2018, 01:26:58 PM »
He is better than what he showed last night

His desperation for Khan is embarrassing though

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59276 on: December 9, 2018, 01:33:48 PM »
Watching the Lomachenko/Pedraza fight. Amazing rally of 42 punches from Loma to put Pedraza on the deck for the 1st knockdown. Anthony Crolla will warm every penny if he fights him.
Fair play to Pedraza for getting through the 11th round, that was unbelievable pressure.  42 power punches landed in that round alone :o

First time watching kell brook , very average fighter imo
Very harsh judging him on that performance to be fair.  He was just going through the motions last night, nothing like himself.  I think the Khan business has broken him to be honest, that was a world title eliminator and he looked like he just didn't care anymore.  Boxing is a very dangerous game if you don't have the motivation.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59277 on: December 9, 2018, 03:06:05 PM »
For a world title eliminator you woukd think he would be highly motivated and trying to impress

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59278 on: December 9, 2018, 03:09:26 PM »
First time watching kell brook , very average fighter imo

That's like saying your first time watching Fury was vs one of the journeymen he has just faced. Brook is far from average.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59279 on: December 9, 2018, 03:15:27 PM »
That's like saying your first time watching Fury was vs one of the journeymen he has just faced. Brook is far from average.
He was getting hit way to easily
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