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The Boys Pen
« on: January 8, 2005, 03:59:43 PM »
Anyone any ideas when it was finally pulled down and what was it's last game, was it the Norwich game?

Been trying to find the answer for a Red on this thread.

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Re: The Boys Pen
« Reply #1 on: January 8, 2005, 04:01:09 PM »
Well before the Norwich game
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Re: The Boys Pen
« Reply #2 on: January 8, 2005, 04:03:18 PM »
Well before the Norwich game

Getting old John, I can't remember when it finally went.  know they reduced the capacity of the standing Kop, maybe it was around that time.
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Re: The Boys Pen
« Reply #3 on: January 8, 2005, 04:14:27 PM »
Getting old John, I can't remember when it finally went.  know they reduced the capacity of the standing Kop, maybe it was around that time.




Think you may be right there, when the kop got all new safety barriers in
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Re: The Boys Pen
« Reply #4 on: January 9, 2005, 11:10:19 AM »
Not sure when it did come down, but it was not there by the time I had my first ST in 1976.  Sorry I can;t be more helpful
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Re: The Boys Pen
« Reply #5 on: January 9, 2005, 11:34:05 AM »
The first time I stood on the Kop was Nov. 8th. 1975, I was only eight at the time but I'm sure there was no boys' pen. (Oh and It was against the mancs and we won 3-0).
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Re: The Boys Pen
« Reply #6 on: January 9, 2005, 11:47:53 AM »
The first time I stood on the Kop was Nov. 8th. 1975, I was only eight at the time but I'm sure there was no boys' pen. (Oh and It was against the mancs and we won 3-0).
first time I was on the Kop was around 75 and I also can't remember seeing the 'pen' and I was in the ground really early when it was almost empty.

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Re: The Boys Pen
« Reply #7 on: January 9, 2005, 11:54:20 AM »
Its fifteen minutes to kick off time
I'm in my seat, Block 109
I look around, I hear the noise
see lots of fathers with their boys.
The kids look happy, a marvelous sight
McNasty's burgers they all bite
they're all excited thats for sure
and with their dads they feel secure.

Although the surroundings have now all changed
the children's feelings are just the same
the middle classes have now arrived
but things were different for a sixties child.

I then look out across the Kop
to the right hand corner at the top
where up until the age of ten
I served my time in the old 'boys pen'.

For those of you who do not know
it was a place for kids to go
metal bars like a kind of cage
where little kopites came of age.

I remember the first time I went inside
Liverpool v Chelsea '65
a star struck boy who stood amazed
football was all we had those days.

You'd always see some kids from school
they came from all over Liverpool
little scousers every week
from Kirkby town right up to Speke.

The Kop was packed out in those days
but at half time, dad found a way
to fight his way through all the crowd
and feed his boy, he did me proud.

An 'Eccles cake' a sausage roll
a drink of Coke, god bless his soul
between the bars he'd pass it through
like feeding monkeys at the zoo.

And through those bars we used to stare
at all the kopites standing there
oh how we'd long to stand with them
and make that step from boys to men.

Some kids escaped now and again
it was a pretty dangerous game
it filled the kopites full of laughter
to see kids dangling from the rafters.

It had its own 'soprano' choir
you couldn't sing 'walk on' much higher
inside those bars kids sang with pride
but it sounded so funny from the other side.

When the match was over at 4.45
your dad would pick you up outside
dozens of kids , some big some small
stood opposite the pen by the old brick wall.

But that was how it was those days
no greedy players, no corporate ways
they recognized us 'opite cubs'
we were the future of the club.

Then at last it came my time
to leave this little world behind
I was at an age when every lad
didnt want to go the match with dad.

And so I passed out to the kop
that love affair has never stopped
I take my son to the occasional game
but this 'dad and lad' thing's not the same.

You never see young lads no more
who go the match in three's and fours
this city's children rue the day
when they took the old boys pen away.

The money men arrived in town
and in their wisdom pulled it down
they called it 'progress' but we read their thoughts
who needs children when adults pay more.

I now drift back to present day
I take my seat, watch the redmen play
a diehard red , Im the real McCoy
because I was groomed from a little boy.

That golden era has now passed by
but we all have memories you cannot buy
from apprentice kopites, now middle aged men
who served their time in the old boys pen.

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Re: The Boys Pen
« Reply #8 on: January 9, 2005, 11:57:40 AM »
brilliant poem  :)
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Re: The Boys Pen
« Reply #9 on: January 9, 2005, 12:07:03 PM »
was about to ask what it was but that poem says it all :D
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Re: The Boys Pen
« Reply #10 on: January 9, 2005, 01:35:21 PM »
Not sure when it did come down, but it was not there by the time I had my first ST in 1976.  Sorry I can;t be more helpful

Sorry Andy but those kex have gone to your head, no way the pen was gone then. Pen was the only 'pay-in' part of teh ground against Moenchengladbach in the quarters in '78, and was there at least a season afterwards. Deffo there when Fairclough scored two against West Ham and when Souness hit the bar against Brum.

I reckon it went for the 79-80 season but not sure, remember the money grabbing bastards brought in kids seasos on the Kop, reckon it was eighty odd nicker at the time.

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Re: The Boys Pen
« Reply #11 on: January 9, 2005, 05:17:21 PM »
first time I was on the Kop was around 75 and I also can't remember seeing the 'pen' and I was in the ground really early when it was almost empty.
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Re: The Boys Pen
« Reply #12 on: January 9, 2005, 07:29:08 PM »
Anyone got any pictures of the Kop with the boys pen?

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Re: The Boys Pen
« Reply #13 on: January 9, 2005, 07:41:51 PM »
Not sure when it closed, but went in there myself a few times. It would start off full, and be half empty after ten minutes, once all the grown ups had climbed into the Kop !
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« Reply #14 on: January 9, 2005, 09:03:47 PM »
Im thinking of starting a group for " Traumatic victims of the boys pen"......I spent the first two years of being a regular of the ..ahem "boys" pen with my scarf firmly tucked under my jumper as I enterd and God forbid those of us innocents who stood in the best spec over the access/food bar when the "big " boys came in.........
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« Reply #15 on: January 9, 2005, 09:04:53 PM »
ps the pen went very early  80's
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Re: The Boys Pen
« Reply #16 on: January 9, 2005, 09:07:00 PM »
Sorry Andy but those kex have gone to your head, no way the pen was gone then. Pen was the only 'pay-in' part of teh ground against Moenchengladbach in the quarters in '78, and was there at least a season afterwards. Deffo there when Fairclough scored two against West Ham and when Souness hit the bar against Brum.

I reckon it went for the 79-80 season but not sure, remember the money grabbing bastards brought in kids seasos on the Kop, reckon it was eighty odd nicker at the time.

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my first game was against palace in 1980 and i can't remember the boys pen, though i was only 9 at the time

£80 sounds expensive for a kids st, i got my first adult st in 87 and it only cost me around £55 (can't quite remember but it was no more than £60)

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Re: The Boys Pen
« Reply #17 on: January 9, 2005, 09:09:20 PM »
Kop Season Ticket in 81 was £21.....hmmm not bad value if memory serves
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Re: The Boys Pen
« Reply #18 on: January 9, 2005, 09:18:28 PM »
I think the boy's pen went at the end of season 1981 possibly the Man City game [not sure like] Mark Platt of LFC.TV is looking into it for us.


What was the game when some "away" Dads an Lads entered the Boy's pen [Think this was a Liverpool FC scheme to try and combat hoolies] can remember they lasted about 10 minutes? 
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Re: The Boys Pen
« Reply #19 on: January 9, 2005, 09:26:07 PM »
After a few phone calls the concencus of opinion is that the late 1970's,probably 1979,was the last days of the boys pen.
obviously it wasn't replaced and if we do move to a new ground then the powers that be had better look towards re-creating a boys pen type place if we want a future generation of fanatics.
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Re: The Boys Pen
« Reply #20 on: January 9, 2005, 09:51:23 PM »
I wonder what they would call the Boys pen these days, obviously Boys pen itself would be a non starter. The young Persons Enclosure, would probably get the nod now. Couldn't imagine the pen getting called that years ago though !
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« Reply #21 on: January 9, 2005, 09:55:31 PM »
I wonder what they would call the Boys pen these days, obviously Boys pen itself would be a non starter. The young Persons Enclosure, would probably get the nod now. Couldn't imagine the pen getting called that years ago though !


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Re: The Boys Pen
« Reply #22 on: January 9, 2005, 10:05:31 PM »
I think that as long as we get it, let the club call it what they want ,then we'll give it it's proper name. ;)
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Re: The Boys Pen
« Reply #23 on: January 9, 2005, 10:13:21 PM »
my first game was against palace in 1980 and i can't remember the boys pen, though i was only 9 at the time

£80 sounds expensive for a kids st, i got my first adult st in 87 and it only cost me around £55 (can't quite remember but it was no more than £60)

Yeah you're right getting mixed up with the Main Stand one in 85, that was £80.
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Re: The Boys Pen
« Reply #24 on: January 9, 2005, 10:39:08 PM »
Was anyone else amongst the 6 or 7 of us who paid 5p to get into the boys pen for the "second " Borrusia Muchingladbach game cos our mams wouldn't give us any more money after the first game?...and I dont include the three 18 year old bizzies in the pen!!

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Re: The Boys Pen
« Reply #25 on: January 9, 2005, 10:40:44 PM »
Only ever went in the Boy's pen once, and climbed out.
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« Reply #26 on: January 9, 2005, 10:41:57 PM »
Was anyone else amongst the 6 or 7 of us who paid 5p to get into the boys pen for the "second " Borrusia Muchingladbach game cos our mams wouldn't give us any more money after the first game?...and I dont include the three 18 year old bizzies in the pen!!

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Re: The Boys Pen
« Reply #27 on: January 9, 2005, 10:43:24 PM »
Mottman where you one of the pen monkeys?..........had a boyhood admiration for those you use to climb out and hang in the rafters.................or was it they where just too scared for the pen?
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Re: The Boys Pen
« Reply #28 on: January 9, 2005, 10:45:19 PM »
Only went on once mate, that was enough.

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Re: The Boys Pen
« Reply #29 on: January 9, 2005, 10:47:20 PM »
John Mac..................obviously middle class.... who could afford that!!!!....10p in the Kop...but it would have meant no chips and a bloody long walk home.....so I took the cheap option.....I shouldnt have had that bottle of Tizer and chips the night before!
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« Reply #30 on: January 9, 2005, 10:50:22 PM »
John Mac..................obviously middle class....

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« Reply #31 on: January 9, 2005, 10:52:28 PM »
Mottman.....Once was enough  ;) ....Man City in a cup game comes to mind...terrified city fans ( men!!) cowering from maruding 12 year olds trying to get at them in the main stand from the pen................ahhh! happy days !!!  :)

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« Reply #32 on: January 9, 2005, 11:00:47 PM »
John ..truth hurts pal!!!  ;D  two bob!!! ...jeez !!! man I could live like a king for two weeks then on that!!!.. a tanner for a bag of chips and left overs!  :)
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Re: The Boys Pen
« Reply #33 on: January 9, 2005, 11:03:14 PM »
Im thinking of starting a group for " Traumatic victims of the boys pen"......I spent the first two years of being a regular of the ..ahem "boys" pen with my scarf firmly tucked under my jumper as I enterd and God forbid those of us innocents who stood in the best spec over the access/food bar when the "big " boys came in.........
Crackin spec,the Pen was great value for money,but it lacked a bit of street cred,as you had to go on the kop with the "big boys" to have street cred!

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Re: The Boys Pen
« Reply #34 on: January 9, 2005, 11:09:25 PM »
Maybe RAWK should have a section on here for us ald arses to get together and talk about our youth, afterall NO one did anything before us - thats nailed one FACT as well. 
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« Reply #35 on: January 9, 2005, 11:13:03 PM »
Maybe RAWK should have a section on here for us ald arses to get together and talk about our youth, afterall NO one did anything before us - thats nailed one FACT as well. 

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« Reply #36 on: January 9, 2005, 11:19:47 PM »
When did they disband the OCB?  ;)

Not disbanded [OCB] Old Codgers Brigade just need new members. :D
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« Reply #37 on: January 9, 2005, 11:21:29 PM »
Not disbanded [OCB] Old Codgers Brigade just need new members. :D
Where's the form,i'll sign up!

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« Reply #38 on: January 9, 2005, 11:23:09 PM »
Where's the form,i'll sign up!

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« Reply #39 on: January 9, 2005, 11:23:49 PM »
Not disbanded [OCB] Old Codgers Brigade just need new members. :D

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