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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #10160 on: April 23, 2024, 10:18:41 am »
Ideally we would get someone in who has actually won something

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« Reply #10161 on: April 23, 2024, 10:19:22 am »
For months I was sure it was Alonso. For the last few weeks I was sure it was Amorim.  In both cases I was very happy. I'll be honest, if its not one of those two and you offered me Mourinho on a strict 12 month contract with Alonso to take over next summer, I would be all over that rather than some of the other mad shouts going around (a lot of which are Chinese whispers starting even in this thread and getting completely out of hand).

Hoeness, Slot - I accept they have fantastic records and I am being slightly hypocritical since I had never heard of Amorim 2 months ago, but I don't see how completely unheralded managers like this can be chucked in the deep end
De Zerbi, Franck - far too many question marks for me. If either happened I would give them a chance but I would be worried
Howe/Tindall, Pochettino, Emery - no way these guys are being allowed to join us even if we want them

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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #10162 on: April 23, 2024, 10:22:58 am »
On the latest Anfield Wrap show they said Postecoglou has only won once away from home against the top 12. I don't want any part of that.

We've only won once away from home against the top 10 tbf.

Even City didn't win many last season.
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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #10163 on: April 23, 2024, 10:23:36 am »
Mourinho wins things but he has been toxic for years now and leaves a mess behind. Stay well clear.
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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #10164 on: April 23, 2024, 10:24:01 am »
He's not and I think he's said he doesn't want to be

Still wasn't that good at Spurs either. The year we beat them in Madrid they lost 13/14 games in the league and got lucky because they didn't draw many games. He's just not a good manager.

That Ajax tie was daylight robbery. They were battered for 90% of the tie.

City as well with that VAR goal at the end that was ruled out.
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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #10165 on: April 23, 2024, 10:26:21 am »
That Ajax tie was daylight robbery. They were battered for 90% of the tie.

City as well with that VAR goal at the end that was ruled out.

Agreed and we should be after the Ajax manager that night  ;D

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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #10166 on: April 23, 2024, 10:26:48 am »
It was actually Ornstein that said this a few days ago.

Ben Jacobs said something similar on The Athletic.

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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #10167 on: April 23, 2024, 10:27:51 am »
No it's not, stop trying to retroforce events of 10+ years ago to fuel your agenda against FSG.

You are the one who wants to limit the power of the manager.

Create a structure in which Edwards has ultimate power and the recruitment side of the club are basically mates who have worked together before and what top manager is going to accept that.

That for me is why we are being linked with the likes of Frank. Someone who is used to working within a data driven model at Brentford. Someone who hasn't got the kudos to demand things and who isn't going to be popular with the fanbase.
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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #10168 on: April 23, 2024, 10:28:54 am »
That Ajax tie was daylight robbery. They were battered for 90% of the tie.

I mean, look who was managing that Ajax team. Clue: they had a 3 goal lead in the semis and blew it.

That tie was the resistible force against the movable object.
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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #10169 on: April 23, 2024, 10:33:47 am »
With the squad we have you'd have to be Hodgson-level of a horrible manager to not challenge for the league.

The squad we have now. Who's to say what will happen over the summer, especially depending on who gets appointed?

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« Reply #10170 on: April 23, 2024, 10:36:30 am »
What have I missed? This thread has increased crazily in last 24 hours.

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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #10171 on: April 23, 2024, 10:37:34 am »
What have I missed? This thread has increased crazily in last 24 hours.

Amorim unlikely to be our primary target

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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #10172 on: April 23, 2024, 10:38:02 am »
What have I missed? This thread has increased crazily in last 24 hours.

Arno Slot has been ruled out due to his baldness. Howe is now overwhelming favourite.

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« Reply #10173 on: April 23, 2024, 10:39:38 am »
Amorim unlikely to be our primary target
Cheers. Hmmmm no idea who we think is best fit for the job then.

Arno Slot has been ruled out due to his baldness. Howe is now overwhelming favourite.
No idea who Slot is. Last bit is a joke ;D

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« Reply #10174 on: April 23, 2024, 10:39:58 am »
Amorims been ditched in favour of Eddie Howe.

Edwards and Hughes simultaneously put on shades and said "we're gettin the band back together kids".
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« Reply #10175 on: April 23, 2024, 10:40:08 am »
That tweet that Edwards and Hughes aren't afraid to make an unpopular but brave decision is really worrying.

a) They know the decision will be unpopular
b) They consider the decision to be brave and reading between the lines 'brave' means a gamble

Reeks of Mourinho im afraid.
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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #10176 on: April 23, 2024, 10:40:08 am »
What have I missed? This thread has increased crazily in last 24 hours.

Not much.

Amorim is seen unlikely by Ornstien and then every potential manager from Mourinho to Thomas Frank has been mentioned in this thread.
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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #10177 on: April 23, 2024, 10:40:16 am »
Ideally we would get someone in who has actually won something

This is why I wouldn't count out Amorim just yet, his record at Sporting, shows winning against better
funded opponents and developing young players; maybe his agent is just dicking around for more money.
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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #10178 on: April 23, 2024, 10:42:13 am »
Fabrizio Romano reporting this morning that Amorim isn't *exactly* ruled out of contention, and you know he's a man on the ball by the way he was too busy to put down his phone long enough to get a profile picture taken.

"There’s been something of a surprise twist to the Ruben Amorim saga, as reported yesterday, with West Ham now emerging as an option for the Sporting Lisbon manager, despite all the recent stories about his future involving Liverpool.

What I can say is that at the moment it’s on stand-by between Liverpool and Amorim. Liverpool are still discussing internally, so we have to be patient and respect their timing. But Amorim never had an agreement done and sealed with Liverpool despite reports, that’s why everything is still open for the Portuguese manager.

West Ham are really trying with important proposal and specific project with him as coach. There are also other candidates; Julen Lopetegui is one of them, but the race is open. For David Moyes, the expectation now is definitely for him to leave West Ham in the summer."

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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #10179 on: April 23, 2024, 10:42:13 am »
There must be a blackout imposed on the usual suspect journo’s, never known them to be so quiet. Dream scenario is it’s Xabi and will be announced when their EL run is over.

However, the successfulness of the blackout makes me think it’s actually closer to home and going to be Lijnders. There hasn’t been a peep of any back room staff moving onto pastures new next season.
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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #10180 on: April 23, 2024, 10:43:00 am »
Reeks of Mourinho im afraid.

Ha ha.

As if Edward’s is sanctioning a move for Mourinho. I’d be absolutely amazed.


I don’t think Edward’s is the messiah some think but he’s shown over multiple different areas that he can make informed and ultimately good decisions. I just don’t see a scenario where he lands on Mourinho as the best choice. There’s literally no overlap in what Mourinho brings and what we’d want.
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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #10181 on: April 23, 2024, 10:43:17 am »

No idea who Slot is. Last bit is a joke ;D
It's not a joke. Howe and Tindall are rated very highly by our boffins on xHR (Expected Hairline Receding). Hoeness falls down there cos just look at Dieter Hoeness and Uli Hoeness.
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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #10182 on: April 23, 2024, 10:43:47 am »
There must be a blackout imposed on the usual suspect journo’s, never known them to be so quiet. Dream scenario is it’s Xabi and will be announced when their EL run is over.

However, the successfulness of the blackout makes me think it’s actually going to be Lijnders. There hasn’t been a peep of any back room staff moving onto pastures new next season.

If it was going to be Lijnders it would have just been said. The players would already know too - there is no way it would be kept quiet.

If it is already known who our next manager is, we are keeping it quiet because he's currently under contract somewhere else, maybe with something still to play for.
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« Reply #10183 on: April 23, 2024, 10:46:03 am »
Not much.

Amorim is seen unlikely by Ornstien and then every potential manager from Mourinho to Thomas Frank has been mentioned in this thread.

Cheers. Yeah I've seen some BIZARRE suggestions.

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« Reply #10184 on: April 23, 2024, 10:46:22 am »
I don`t particularly want Emery, but I don`t agree with you. A former player managing in an inferior league has is essence taken the view he wants to have a crack at the CL with his current team and has effectively ruled himself out. What makes you think that if Emery finishes top 4 with Villa he wouldn`t take the same view ?

Because we are one of the biggest clubs in world football. Top managers want to test themselves at the top clubs, Liverpool, United, Barca, Madrid, Bayern these are level one clubs that any manager will jump at managing. These opportunities will not come around often. I'd take him here all day long over some of the names being mentioned.
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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #10185 on: April 23, 2024, 10:46:43 am »
There must be a blackout imposed on the usual suspect journo’s, never known them to be so quiet. Dream scenario is it’s Xabi and will be announced when their EL run is over.

However, the successfulness of the blackout makes me think it’s actually closer to home and going to be Lijnders. There hasn’t been a peep of any back room staff moving onto pastures new next season.

How can it be Xabi when he's specifically come out and said he will be at Bayer next season?

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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #10186 on: April 23, 2024, 10:48:36 am »
This is why I wouldn't count out Amorim just yet, his record at Sporting, shows winning against better
funded opponents and developing young players; maybe his agent is just dicking around for more money.
when was Ornstin last wrong with his exclusives?

Very reliable & consistent that Amorim was just one of many candidates.
Edwards was perhaps something he was off but he id not return as DoF he said he would only go back for a bigger role which he did.
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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #10187 on: April 23, 2024, 10:48:59 am »
The “unpopular” comment does very much smell like Mourinho. Might be that he lives near Fulham, but quite telling he was watching us.

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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #10188 on: April 23, 2024, 10:50:49 am »
Interim manager for a year and then try for Alonso again next year?

So who is currently out of a job and who has won almost everything?
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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #10189 on: April 23, 2024, 10:52:02 am »
The “unpopular” comment does very much smell like Mourinho. Might be that he lives near Fulham, but quite telling he was watching us.

We aren't hiring Mourinho FFS.

The unpopular comment was simply that we might not hire the person most fans want. Not that we're going to scorch the Earth.
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« Reply #10190 on: April 23, 2024, 10:52:22 am »
Reeks of Mourinho im afraid.

Yeah, the suits are defo appointing a manager who begs for transfers after every bad result for a club that likes as little transfers as possible.

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« Reply #10191 on: April 23, 2024, 10:52:44 am »
The “unpopular” comment does very much smell like Mourinho. Might be that he lives near Fulham, but quite telling he was watching us.
Would you stop it. Honestly, people, you really think our stats and numbers based backroom guys are going to crunch the numbers and come up with Jose Mourinho's name? Get a grip.
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« Reply #10192 on: April 23, 2024, 10:53:41 am »
To be fair, following Klopp everyone is a gamble. Even Guardiola or Carlo would be a gamble. But there are gambles and there are gambles.
This seems like a fair point. I guess Edwards and co are looking at gambles and gambles differently from us maybe? They have more data to go on, and (hopefully) more knowledge. Still, I was delighted with the idea of Alonso, happy with the idea of Amorim but yeah, everyone else seems like... I'm not sure what they seem like actually. Wouldn't be against De Zerbi, Frank etc but they feel more like gambles to me. But what do I know. Finding it hard to get at all excited by it anymore.

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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #10193 on: April 23, 2024, 10:54:52 am »
I’d be surprised if Emery not on Edwards list .

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« Reply #10194 on: April 23, 2024, 10:55:11 am »
Would you stop it. Honestly, people, you really think our stats and numbers based backroom guys are going to crunch the numbers and come up with Jose Mourinho's name? Get a grip.

Mourinho would make a lot of sense if someone like Xabi has told us he's willing to take the job in October. Gives Jose just about enough time to undo all the good work and piss enough people off to want to sack him.

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« Reply #10195 on: April 23, 2024, 10:55:31 am »
Please stop with the Mourinho links. I feel ill even thinking about it.

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« Reply #10196 on: April 23, 2024, 10:55:52 am »
I’d be surprised if Emery not on Edwards list .

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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #10197 on: April 23, 2024, 10:56:44 am »
Would you stop it. Honestly, people, you really think our stats and numbers based backroom guys are going to crunch the numbers and come up with Jose Mourinho's name? Get a grip.

It depends on how they want to run the club really… as others have mentioned, stats paint a fraction of the picture when it comes to hiring managers. We have no idea what other parameters the club will use to hire the next man.

True that he’s ostensibly not a good fit from many angles (youth development, play style), the only way you could see it happening is if we’ve had some encouragement from Alonso’s camp for next year and we’re looking for a stop gap who can win some trinkets/squeeze some more out of our elder statesmen along the way.

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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #10198 on: April 23, 2024, 10:57:18 am »
Reeks of Mourinho im afraid.

I doubt anyone at LFC would consider hiring someone who revelled in his column for the S*n and had a big photo spread of him holding the rag. That alone should rule him out apart from the fact that he's a twat. I was at Wembley when he shushed the crowd, he can fuck off.

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« Reply #10199 on: April 23, 2024, 10:57:36 am »
Mourinho would make a lot of sense if someone like Xabi has told us he's willing to take the job in October. Gives Jose just about enough time to undo all the good work and piss enough people off to want to sack him.
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