Topic: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation

[Number 7]

Welcome Reuben Amorim.

Xabi Alonso is a tax dodger anyway.

Maybe Amorim was always Edward’s first choice

[AndyMuller]

Can’t we just keep Klopp.

[danm77]

What box does Amorim tick? Are you an avid Portuguese League watcher?

He plays an intense, high pressing style, he won Sporting’s first title since 2002 back in 2021 and is currently on course to do it again against two bigger clubs in Porto and Benfica.

No one is suggesting he is an elite manager (yet) but other than Alonso, who currently stands out? Amorim would be a gamble but there isn’t a great deal of choice out there.

[Wool]

What box does Amorim tick? Are you an avid Portuguese League watcher?

Do you think all the people pining for Alonso are avid Bundesliga watchers? Lol.

[killer-heels]

There's numeorus articles and matches for you to watch of Sporting Lisbon if you could be bothered to watch and read.

Only Sporting game i watched was against Arsenal and they were good. Confident on the ball and got a lot of shots off. They were unlucky to lose the second leg to Atalanta.

[Eeyore]

I think one thing to factor in is that whilst we have some excellent footballers, our best ones are actually quite old now and our youngest of that cohort having some contract questions. Any new manager may have to move this side forward with the likes of Salah, Van Dijk, Robertson etc starting to be past their top level form.

Its a big challenge.

We have a lot of the squad in place though and have huge revenues. We are in a position in which we can go really big on the players we do need.

[killer-heels]

He plays an intense, high pressing style, he won Sporting’s first title since 2002 back in 2021 and is currently on course to do it again against two bigger clubs in Porto and Benfica.

No one is suggesting he is an elite manager (yet) but other than Alonso, who currently stands out? Amorim would be a gamble but there isn’t a great deal of choice out there.

Totally get that and also have to factor in that being at a club in Lisbon, he is clearly a guy that knows about pressure so that is a bonus. My challenge is against the notion that it has to be him, as that would imply that he is as close to a sure thing.

[Samie]

Maybe Amorim was always Edward’s first choice

I got that feeling too when Edwards was confirmed to be back.

[Evil Red]

You're batshit crazy

LOL I'm only messing, mate! Honestly, I haven't given up on Xabi yet. He will see sense when he has a chat with Edwards at the end of the season.

[The WASP]

Great really great 

[killer-heels]

We have a lot of the squad in place though and have huge revenues. We are in a position in which we can go really big on the players we do need.

Possibly, but thats still a case of the unknown. If Salah and Van Dijk were in their mid to late 20’s then you can still say the core of our best players are in place for a while. The next manager however not only follows Klopp and all what that brings, but has to look to possibly replace our best players.

Plus its not easy to replace great players no matter revenues and ability to spend.

[TepidT2O]

Michael Edwards first choice was going to be Amorim anyway I think. 

genuinley I’ve always thought exactly this

[Samie]

Amorim is my first choice now.

Naglesmann is my second.

[Eeyore]

I got that feeling too when Edwards was confirmed to be back.

I always thought it made sense for Edwards not to appoint a Liverpool legend. Edwards lost control when Klopp became a bonafide Liverpool legend and was granted more power. Alonso would be starting as a legend.

[TepidT2O]

I always thought it made sense for Edwards not to appoint a Liverpool legend. Edwards lost control when Klopp became a bonafide Liverpool legend and was granted more power. Alonso would be starting as a legend.

I’m still smarting a bit from Souness, so I’ve always worried about Alonso on those grounds (30 years and it still stings)

[duvva 💅]

I think one thing to factor in is that whilst we have some excellent footballers, our best ones are actually quite old now and our youngest of that cohort having some contract questions. Any new manager may have to move this side forward with the likes of Salah, Van Dijk, Robertson etc starting to be past their top level form.

Its a big challenge.

True. But Virgil doesn’t look like he’ll fall off a Cliff next season, Salah will probably gradually begin to have less impact. You’d like to think we’re still a fairly big draw and should be able to bring in a couple of top players in the summer if we get the manager right. But as long as we don’t lose any of those big players despite their ages I still think the squad around them are largely young or in their prime and ready to keep challenging

[duvva 💅]

Amorim is my first choice now.

Naglesmann is my second.

I’d take you ahead of Nagalsmann

[kvarmeismydad]

Amorim plays with two CMs. That's a problem with the current squad. Endo, MacAllister, Bajcetic, Gravenberch, Jones, Szoboszlai all battling for two spaces. Not to mention the impact on Elliott, Clarke, Morton and McConnell. That's loads of midfielders in a 2 man midfield formation. Elliott would have to try for Sarah's spot. Trent would be less likely to move to midfield and would have to buy in to right wing back.

Lots to unpick there and most of these players are considered as long term assets aside from Endo.

This midfield situation makes me think they'd be looking for a 433 manager rather than one who plays just the 2 in midfield.

[Gus 1855]

Don't believe this about Alonso, we'll see.

[Samie]

Atleast the tax dodger will get Madrid out the way now and in a few years time he will be angling for us.

[Jookie]

Disappointing news about Alonso. Should make him an offer he can’t refuse.

What does that even mean?

20M a season wages?

Relocate the club to Madrid and play in white?

He doesn’t want to be Liverpool manager. In the same way he didn’t want to be a Liverpool player any more in 2009. I’m fine with Alonso making those choices. Likelihood is that he had chance to be Liverpool manager next season and said no thanks. Again that’s fine and his choice. But hopefully this puts an end to the notion is some massive fan of the club and a dream destination for him.

[HardworkDedication]

Totally get that and also have to factor in that being at a club in Lisbon, he is clearly a guy that knows about pressure so that is a bonus. My challenge is against the notion that it has to be him, as that would imply that he is as close to a sure thing.

Who would you like us to appoint as all I've seen you do recently is moan about other posters wanting Alonso or Amorim?

[Samie]

Amorim plays with two CMs. That's a problem with the current squad. Endo, MacAllister, Bajcetic, Gravenberch, Jones, Szoboszlai all battling for two spaces. Not to mention the impact on Elliott, Clarke, Morton and McConnell. That's loads of midfielders in a 2 man midfield formation. Elliott would have to try for Sarah's spot. Trent would be less likely to move to midfield and would have to buy in to right wing back.

Lots to unpick there and most of these players are considered as long term assets aside from Endo.

This midfield situation makes me think they'd be looking for a 433 manager rather than one who plays just the 2 in midfield.

Managers are flexible Klopp palyed a 4-2-3-1 at Dortmund. He barely palyed that with us beyond a handful of games.

[Clint Eastwood]

Amorim is my first choice now.

Naglesmann is my second.

Bleak.

[Jookie]

Amorim plays with two CMs. That's a problem with the current squad. Endo, MacAllister, Bajcetic, Gravenberch, Jones, Szoboszlai all battling for two spaces. Not to mention the impact on Elliott, Clarke, Morton and McConnell. That's loads of midfielders in a 2 man midfield formation. Elliott would have to try for Sarah's spot. Trent would be less likely to move to midfield and would have to buy in to right wing back.

Lots to unpick there and most of these players are considered as long term assets aside from Endo.

This midfield situation makes me think they'd be looking for a 433 manager rather than one who plays just the 2 in midfield.

Klopp played 4-2-3-1 before coming to Liverpool.

Principles stay the same and fundamental. Tactically managers will adapt to the league and available players.

[killer-heels]

True. But Virgil doesn’t look like he’ll fall off a Cliff next season, Salah will probably gradually begin to have less impact. You’d like to think we’re still a fairly big draw and should be able to bring in a couple of top players in the summer if we get the manager right. But as long as we don’t lose any of those big players despite their ages I still think the squad around them are largely young or in their prime and ready to keep challenging

Possibly. I dont know how next season goes however because you can convince yourself that any scenario that happens in the next 6 weeks leads to a drop off next season (hangover after winning the league, disappointment at missing out).

I do think however that after next season its a big one in terms of changing the side and I personally believe it could be 2-3 years of looking to finish in CL positions as we build again, but that could even mean the manager after the next reaping the benefits.

[TepidT2O]

I’d take you ahead of Nagalsmann

Bloody hell mate.

There's no one lower than Samie

[Stockholm Syndrome]

Why do you not use the whole season out of interest?

9 wins in 8 months then, not exactly stellar still

[killer-heels]

Who would you like us to appoint as all I've seen you do recently is moan about other posters wanting Alonso or Amorim?

Dont know, nobody jumps out as being good enough. Nobody has to be the man and not many should be ruled out (apart from Nagelsman).

[Redwhiteandnotblue]

Don't believe this about Alonso, we'll see.

There's a lot of fun and games being played out through the press at the moment; I don't think we'll ever know the half of it and I don't think the story this evening is as clear cut as the press make it out to be.

There's a long way to go yet; smoke and mirrors...

[kvarmeismydad]

Alonso being on the verge of achieving something amazing has probably made it really difficult to talk to him. He'll be fully focused on that. It's huge. If he achieves it early and we haven't got someone is place then maybe he is ready to talk. Seems like the club want to sort it ASAP and Alonso is 100% focused on the achievement just within his grasp.

[stoa]

Bloody hell mate.

There's no one lower than Samie

Nagelsmann is the exception to that rule. Hope the Germans win the Euros then we don't have to be worried that we might end up with him...

[tubby]

I'm fairly relaxed about this news, it's going to be a gamble, whoever we choose.  No real dead cert options out there right now and taking over at Liverpool could either swallow someone whole or turn out to be a marriage made in heaven, and that applies to all the people we're linked with.

I'm open-minded about the whole thing, and we'll get behind the manager, whoever it is.

[G Richards]

I still wonder if there’s an outside chance of Alonso, since Joyce and Ornstein were not definitive. They talked like it was probable he was staying at Leverkusen, so Liverpool’s shortlist does not include Alonso. Perhaps that was definitive enough and I’m just clutching at straws!

Who next?

No to De Zerbi for me. He can’t seem to be able to set up a defence.

Amorim? Why not. Let’s do it.

Whoever the new man is will have my full support. Up the reds!

[mattD]

Call me crazy but I would be up for Stevie over all these other names being mentioned now

Christ almighty, don't start!

[Garlic Red]

Amorim and Nagelsmann have both won and competed in the Champions League. You can caveat their wins all whatever you like, but they’ve still done it and that has to help them if they’re to come here and compete as we expect.

De Zerbi for me is the biggest risk but he’s probably the one I know most about, have followed the closest and the one that seems to have a far greater level of respect within the game than he does on this forum or social media. He might be the biggest risk but possibly has the most potential for me. Premier league experience is also invaluable.

[buttersstotch]

The Alonso news either feels like he is genuinely waiting for Madrid or it's his camp trying to settle and put to bed and rumours before the business end of the season. I'm inclined to believe Almorin is Edwards' first choice anyway. Other thing that concerns me is the European record - not to compare to Rodgers, but his European record was awful and that is a worry in the back of the mind.

[mattD]

I’d take you ahead of Nagalsmann

Think I'd take Hodgson over Nagalsmann.

It would be a laugh and he'd be gone quickly.

[TomDcs]

Call me crazy but I would be up for Stevie over all these other names being mentioned now

You are crazy

[TepidT2O]

Nagelsmann is the exception to that rule. Hope the Germans win the Euros then we don't have to be worried that we might end up with him...

Samie is like the bacteria that grow in septic tanks.

There is no lower life form (apart form home economics teachers obviously)