Topic: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation

[Nick110581]

I think there’s a strong choice it ends up Nagelsmann to be honest. He was being heavily tipped for Dortmund and there have been reports he has other plans.

Not sure. Seems a massive prick.

De Zerbi is too emotional for me.

[whtwht]

Maybe it's someone completely left field.  Ah well nevermind eh.

[MBL?]

Always thought Biscan was a better passer of the ball anyway.

[Draex]

De Zerbi auditioning at anfield this weekend is the rumour.

[exiledintheUSA]

I’m just assuming that Jurgen has decided to stay.  lol

[Caston]

17m release clause for Amorim, says Joyce.

[Barefoot Doctor]

De Zerbi auditioning at anfield this weekend is the rumour.

Need to put five past them. Mind you we did that to Alisson and he turned out alright.

[killer-heels]

Not sure. Seems a massive prick.

De Zerbi is too emotional for me.

Klopp is emotional.

Problem we have is everyone is shitter than Klopp.

[Simplexity]

If De Zerbi is staying at brighton next season there is a very good chance he gets sacked imo. That should say it all.

[Nick110581]

De Zerbi auditioning at anfield this weekend is the rumour.

Auditioning for what?

The front runner is Amorim.

[meady1981]

I’m just assuming that Jurgen has decided to stay.  lol

If he’d had just seen out his contract it would have been the perfect time for Alonso. So it’s Klopps fault.

[Nick110581]

Klopp is emotional.

Problem we have is everyone is shitter than Klopp.

Klopp is also an exceptional Manager.

You get a similar character and the comparisons will start.

[killer-heels]

Auditioning for what?

The front runner is Amorim.

The problem is there are not really any great candidates at all. You can make a case for all not being ideal.

Ultimately it has to be someone but likelihood is that it isnt anyone exciting.

[Stockholm Syndrome]

Not sure. Seems a massive prick.

De Zerbi is too emotional for me.

I don't think he is too emotional, I think he's too naive tactically. He plays the way he plays and either looks good and wins, draws, or gets battered.

That's not something that can fly here. With him we'll be challenging for top 4

[Nick110581]

The problem is there are not really any great candidates at all. You can make a case for all not being ideal.

No one is better than Klopp.

But De Zerbi is certainly not the answer. Brighton didn’t keep a clean sheet for 20 games this season.

[killer-heels]

I don't think he is too emotional, I think he's too naive tactically. He plays the way he plays and either looks good and wins, draws, or gets battered.

That's not something that can fly here. With him we'll be challenging for top 4

Who is there that you can honestly say will have us challenging for the league?

[Stockholm Syndrome]

The problem is there are not really any great candidates at all. You can make a case for all not being ideal.

The pool is worse than 2015. Amorim is the best option because we don't yet know what his limitations are. He may not be good enough at all, but we don't know

Everyone else is not good enough, and we know it

[meady1981]

They haven’t got to be better than Klopp. They have to be better than Arteta, and whatever chump City bring in.

[Dim Glas]

Bayern are quite heavily linked with De Zerbi I think.  They are welcome to him.

[Stockholm Syndrome]

Who is there that you can honestly say will have us challenging for the league?

Amorim might. We don't know. We know everyone else won't

But you are talking about De Zerbi, you are saying challenging for top 4, not guaranteed it. That's how much a drop off I think he is

[Higgins79]

If we’re all honest, it was always the emotional connection with Xabi that was the main draw. It would have been a gamble because he doesn’t have enough experience. Amorim ticks most of the same boxes and has more experience. I’d be all in on him.

[lfc_col]

It's the risk of someone who may or may not be good

Which would of been the same with Alonso interesting to see who we will go with into the unknown

[Shepnois]

Alonso could’ve been good but if he doesn’t want the job well then he’s clearly not ready for a job the size of Liverpool and he’s best to be avoided.

[Barefoot Doctor]

Who is there that you can honestly say will have us challenging for the league?

Mikel Arteta has Arsenal challenging for the league.

[CHOPPER]

Corrupt conspiracy collusion thingy.

[killer-heels]

They haven’t got to be better than Klopp. They have to be better than Arteta, and whatever chump City bring in.

Guardiola is there for a while and Arteta has his team playing at a high level right now.

[DelTrotter]

Be Rubes or Jules you'd imagine. I want Rubes but can already see the Jules back patting articles about how we've followed him for ages and been desperate to have him since Hoffenheim. Missing the first few weeks of pre season would be a pain in the arse but wouldn't imagine it's a deal breaker, he could start on July 16th, earlier if Germany are out before the final, most of the main players won't be back anyway.

[killer-heels]

Mikel Arteta has Arsenal challenging for the league.

We are not getting Arteta though.

[HardworkDedication]

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/sport/football/article/liverpool-alonso-xabi-stay-move-leverkusen-bayer-0w0rvc709

Well there you go. I knew this would happen. I'm not really disappointed as I've been warming to Amorim for some time and had this nagging feeling Alonso would stay.

[Barefoot Doctor]

We are not getting Arteta though.

A couple of years ago you’d have dismissed Arteta as being incapable of mounting back to back title challenges. How can you say there isn’t a manager out there who could get our squad to do the same?

[Stockholm Syndrome]

If we’re all honest, it was always the emotional connection with Xabi that was the main draw. It would have been a gamble because he doesn’t have enough experience. Amorim ticks most of the same boxes and has more experience. I’d be all in on him.

The dude is winning Bundesliga at a canter without losing a single game so far.

While Amorim ticks many of the same boxes and has more experience, his achievements are not as good as what Alonso is doing.

I always said Amorim has questions of whether he can translate. He is doing it in a smaller league with worse players. Can he make the step up to the bigger stage.

Alonso has less experience but winning the Bundesliga against that Bayern team, without losing a match is significantly better achievement. Question is can he keep doing that.

[Nick110581]

A couple of years ago you’d have dismissed Arteta as being capable of mounting back to back title challenges. How can you say there isn’t a manager out there who could get our squad to do the same?

They didn’t really mount a proper challenge last year though.

[killer-heels]

Amorim might. We don't know. We know everyone else won't

But you are talking about De Zerbi, you are saying challenging for top 4, not guaranteed it. That's how much a drop off I think he is

Might. And that is based off an achievement of one league and one league challenge for Sporting in Portugal. Thats all we really have to go off.

Fact is the pool is shite and they are replacing one of our best ever managers, or certainly the best of a lot of peoples Liverpool supporting lifetimes. There is nobody we can say gets us challenging.

[Stockholm Syndrome]

Which would of been the same with Alonso interesting to see who we will go with into the unknown

Alonso isn't coming so forget about that in the equation.

Amorim might not be good enough. We don't know  his limit. It's a punt, maybe an educated one but a punt.

De Zerbi ISN'T good enough.

Between the two I would rather someone I don't know, compared to someone I know isn't

[killer-heels]

A couple of years ago you’d have dismissed Arteta as being incapable of mounting back to back title challenges. How can you say there isn’t a manager out there who could get our squad to do the same?

Im not saying there isnt, but there isnt anyone now that you would be confident of getting us to challenge. Amorim sounds good but his achievements dont scream out top tier yet.

[Bincey]

I am FAR from an ITK and this is probably me misinterpreting what was said, but my boss is from a small town between Düsseldorf and Leverkusen. He’s a long term Leverkusen season ticket holder, and his son - now in the US on a sports scholarship for golf - was in Leverkusen’s academy in the same group as Florian Wirtz. My boss knows Wirtz’s father. He claims Wirtz’s father told him that Wirtz was staying one more season because Alonso was and then wanted to follow Xabi wherever he goes next.

Take it with a huge pinch of salt, I’m still feeling the guy out for what he’s like, but he doesn’t seem a bullshitter. What I will say is I’m still unsure if he’s painting idle chatter and wishful thinking as fact or not. I also think it’s all well and good Wirtz saying he’s staying, but Alonso probably won’t have told the team his intentions because it would prove a distraction, and if a club comes in with £100m for Wirtz, he’ll have little say in whether he’s there another year or not.

Sounds like your boss wasn't talking shite then.

[killer-heels]

Be Rubes or Jules you'd imagine. I want Rubes but can already see the Jules back patting articles about how we've followed him for ages and been desperate to have him since Hoffenheim. Missing the first few weeks of pre season would be a pain in the arse but wouldn't imagine it's a deal breaker, he could start on July 16th, earlier if Germany are out before the final, most of the main players won't be back anyway.

Nagelsman would be great if we want an utter prick as a manager. He would be gone in 18 months.

[swoopy]

Weekend ruined

[Stockholm Syndrome]

Might. And that is based off an achievement of one league and one league challenge for Sporting in Portugal. Thats all we really have to go off.

Fact is the pool is shite and they are replacing one of our best ever managers, or certainly the best of a lot of peoples Liverpool supporting lifetimes. There is nobody we can say gets us challenging.

I agree. I said so myself in this thread.

It's disheartening that the best we can look at it "Well they look good in Portugal, might be good enough" and then it is midtable managers who are a substantial step back

[killer-heels]

Weekend ruined

Er, we are going for a title. The only thing that ruins this weekend is failure to win 3 points.