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Re: 7he Manches7er Uni7ed 7hread - NO GREENWOOD/ANTONY*
« Reply #7760 on: February 13, 2024, 09:52:53 am »
You can’t blame the pundits for getting excited at the moment.  United are playing some great stuff with Ten Hag looking supremely confident in his elite tactics and his players he signed all coming good and proving their value. He was always going to get it right and the express train is now on track and has left the station. Expect United to win a few trophies from here on in. Next step, build the Wembley of the North. Good times indeed. 😁

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Re: 7he Manches7er Uni7ed 7hread - NO GREENWOOD/ANTONY*
« Reply #7761 on: February 13, 2024, 10:03:57 am »
Manc I know just told me that according to Goldbridge Real Madrid are sniffing around Poundland Garnacho and Seedorfs 2nd coming  thats how good they are :lmao :lmao :lmao

That's a sure sign of a fans desperation to be admired.  Boasting about another club hankering after one your young players as proof they're decent 😂😂😂😂

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Re: 7he Manches7er Uni7ed 7hread - NO GREENWOOD/ANTONY*
« Reply #7762 on: February 13, 2024, 10:06:36 am »
Manc I know just told me that according to Goldbridge Real Madrid are sniffing around Poundland Garnacho and Seedorfs 2nd coming  thats how good they are :lmao :lmao :lmao

To be honest it wouldn't surprise me if they are. A 19 year old South American player playing week in week out will always attract attention from Spain.

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Re: 7he Manches7er Uni7ed 7hread - NO GREENWOOD/ANTONY*
« Reply #7763 on: February 13, 2024, 10:15:29 am »
im not too unhappy with them improvinga bit
Need Ten Haag there as long as possible.
They will probably start to recruit better players though it just cant get worse

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Re: 7he Manches7er Uni7ed 7hread - NO GREENWOOD/ANTONY*
« Reply #7764 on: February 13, 2024, 01:15:08 pm »
https://www.foodserviceequipmentjournal.com/manchester-united-comes-bottom-of-table-for-food-hygiene-scores/?utm_medium=email

Not doing so well here though. The only table that matters (on a quiet Tuesday afternoon)

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Re: 7he Manches7er Uni7ed 7hread - NO GREENWOOD/ANTONY*
« Reply #7765 on: February 14, 2024, 03:15:25 pm »
United vs Top 6 - An Injury/Availability Analysis - Why I'm happy with 6th (So far...)

This thread on Redcafe is hilarious apparently ten Haag is doing a fantastic job now  :o
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Re: 7he Manches7er Uni7ed 7hread - NO GREENWOOD/ANTONY*
« Reply #7766 on: February 14, 2024, 04:26:52 pm »
United vs Top 6 - An Injury/Availability Analysis - Why I'm happy with 6th (So far...)

This thread on Redcafe is hilarious apparently ten Haag is doing a fantastic job now  :o
Their first team blew a 2-0 lead against Newport. They are deluded if they think injuries are their problem.

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Re: 7he Manches7er Uni7ed 7hread - NO GREENWOOD/ANTONY*
« Reply #7767 on: February 14, 2024, 05:24:06 pm »
Trying to temp Dan Ashworth as Director of Football. The man who appointed Sam Allardyce for England manager.

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Re: 7he Manches7er Uni7ed 7hread - NO GREENWOOD/ANTONY*
« Reply #7768 on: February 14, 2024, 08:46:29 pm »
https://www.foodserviceequipmentjournal.com/manchester-united-comes-bottom-of-table-for-food-hygiene-scores/?utm_medium=email

Not doing so well here though. The only table that matters (on a quiet Tuesday afternoon)
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Re: 7he Manches7er Uni7ed 7hread - NO GREENWOOD/ANTONY*
« Reply #7769 on: February 14, 2024, 08:52:15 pm »
Trying to temp Dan Ashworth as Director of Football. The man who appointed Sam Allardyce for England manager.

Be. My. Guest.
Always thought he was one of the absolute best at failing upwards in the modern game. Bloom’s system was king at Brighton and I can’t really pick up on anything notable he’s done with England other than offer under-qualified charlatans the role and extending their contracts after badly misusing the best collection of attacking talent the nation has had in 2 decades.
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Re: 7he Manches7er Uni7ed 7hread - NO GREENWOOD/ANTONY*
« Reply #7770 on: February 14, 2024, 09:40:55 pm »
Trying to temp Dan Ashworth as Director of Football. The man who appointed Sam Allardyce for England manager.

Be. My. Guest.

So he appointed a manager who went on to achieve a 100% win record?
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Re: 7he Manches7er Uni7ed 7hread - NO GREENWOOD/ANTONY*
« Reply #7771 on: February 14, 2024, 10:24:43 pm »
Fingers crossed that Ashworth leaving further destabilises Newcastle - don't want Man Utd to get their act together, but equally enjoy anything that causes difficulties for the sportswashers. Hopefully Newcastle follow Al-Ettifaq's lead and hand Howe a nice fat contract extension to counteract the optics of key men elsewhere jumping ship.

It'll be interesting to see if Ineos have the transformative effect all the Utd fans seem to be expecting. Some philosophies or approaches from other sports have been successfully transposed onto football, but Ineos don't seem to have revolutionised Nice so far, and how many jumped-up billionaires or businessmen have arrogantly thought they could crack the football code only to spectacularly faceplant (ahem, Boehly, ahem)?

I do think Utd's sense of self-importance may continue to be the biggest obstacle for them. In the absence of a once-in-a-generation manager like Klopp who can elevate all their players, their best bet is probably to follow a 'Brighton+' approach and make the manager subservient to a clear philosophy and approach with players. But would their fans have the patience to see it through, and would they become restless without the annual excitement of splashing huge money on the latest hyped up wonderkid or ageing superstar?

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Re: 7he Manches7er Uni7ed 7hread - NO GREENWOOD/ANTONY*
« Reply #7772 on: February 15, 2024, 08:28:08 am »
Fingers crossed that Ashworth leaving further destabilises Newcastle - don't want Man Utd to get their act together, but equally enjoy anything that causes difficulties for the sportswashers. Hopefully Newcastle follow Al-Ettifaq's lead and hand Howe a nice fat contract extension to counteract the optics of key men elsewhere jumping ship.

It'll be interesting to see if Ineos have the transformative effect all the Utd fans seem to be expecting. Some philosophies or approaches from other sports have been successfully transposed onto football, but Ineos don't seem to have revolutionised Nice so far, and how many jumped-up billionaires or businessmen have arrogantly thought they could crack the football code only to spectacularly faceplant (ahem, Boehly, ahem)?

I do think Utd's sense of self-importance may continue to be the biggest obstacle for them. In the absence of a once-in-a-generation manager like Klopp who can elevate all their players, their best bet is probably to follow a 'Brighton+' approach and make the manager subservient to a clear philosophy and approach with players. But would their fans have the patience to see it through, and would they become restless without the annual excitement of splashing huge money on the latest hyped up wonderkid or ageing superstar?

As a United fan of over 72 years, it's my view that Ineos investing will bring some bloody professional insight, reality and serious evaluation to the nonsense splurges we've wasted money on. That clown Antony - warra piss-take THAT shite signing was!! Not a fan of Ten Hag at all - shocking communicator in OUR language for a Dutchman. I've worked some years in Vlaanderen in North Belgium where Dutch is the local lingua franca and honest to God, every fella and his brother in the shops spoke better English than he can manage. In my book, he's certainly on borrowed time.
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Re: 7he Manches7er Uni7ed 7hread - NO GREENWOOD/ANTONY*
« Reply #7773 on: February 15, 2024, 11:39:48 am »
Always thought he was one of the absolute best at failing upwards in the modern game. Bloom’s system was king at Brighton and I can’t really pick up on anything notable he’s done with England other than offer under-qualified charlatans the role and extending their contracts after badly misusing the best collection of attacking talent the nation has had in 2 decades.
He's got incredible PR and journalist contacts. This Winter tweet (it's long) is just unbelievable

https://twitter.com/henrywinter/status/1758092699117236569?t=30vVuRKlVICZ8g8--peRNQ&s=19
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Re: 7he Manches7er Uni7ed 7hread - NO GREENWOOD/ANTONY*
« Reply #7774 on: February 15, 2024, 11:53:37 am »
He's got incredible PR and journalist contacts. This Winter tweet (it's long) is just unbelievable

https://twitter.com/henrywinter/status/1758092699117236569?t=30vVuRKlVICZ8g8--peRNQ&s=19Oh dear
That final, final point is hilarious.  It's the journalistic equivalent of Rick-rolling, making us all read the world's longest tweet before the punchline that the guy's an imbecile.

England have produced a generation of really talented ball-players but I suspect the England DNA thing is largely coincidental.  The (Premier League) Elite Player Performance Plan that came in during 2012 likely had a far bigger impact.  It's effectively killed off academies at lower league clubs but has fast-tracked loads of promising kids into the mega-academies.

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Re: 7he Manches7er Uni7ed 7hread - NO GREENWOOD/ANTONY*
« Reply #7775 on: February 15, 2024, 12:12:03 pm »
Most expensive squad ever in 2023 acording to this.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68274866

Although Chelseas isnt up to date apparently. Either way, fuck me they have bought so much shit.

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Re: 7he Manches7er Uni7ed 7hread - NO GREENWOOD/ANTONY*
« Reply #7776 on: February 15, 2024, 12:14:57 pm »
Trying to temp Dan Ashworth as Director of Football. The man who appointed Sam Allardyce for England manager.

Be. My. Guest.

Haven't seen an interview with him so no idea how bright/good he is.... but hasn't Newcastle's recruitment been largely good since the takeover?

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Re: 7he Manches7er Uni7ed 7hread - NO GREENWOOD/ANTONY*
« Reply #7777 on: February 15, 2024, 12:20:05 pm »
Haven't seen an interview with him so no idea how bright/good he is.... but hasn't Newcastle's recruitment been largely good since the takeover?

It has, maybe a bit more homework on the Italian fella but besides that it's been fine.

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Re: 7he Manches7er Uni7ed 7hread - NO GREENWOOD/ANTONY*
« Reply #7778 on: February 15, 2024, 12:28:33 pm »
Haven't seen an interview with him so no idea how bright/good he is.... but hasn't Newcastle's recruitment been largely good since the takeover?
Mixed bag.  He wasn't there when they splurged on Guimaraes, Wood and Trippier.  Two of those have done well for them and the other kneecapped one of their, at the time, relegation rivals.

Nick Pope was a very good signing but again just preying on Burnley.  The rest have been £30m+ signings that have pretty much done about as well as you'd expect given the size of transfer fees and the reputations they arrived with (Isak, Gordon, Botman, Livramento).  The jury is out on Harvey Barnes and Lewis Hall.  They seemingly didn't do due diligence on Tonali but not sure if that's on Ashworth.

Howe's success last season seemed as much down to getting a tune out of players like Joelinton, Almiron and Wilson as it was about the new signings.

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Re: 7he Manches7er Uni7ed 7hread - NO GREENWOOD/ANTONY*
« Reply #7779 on: February 15, 2024, 12:33:12 pm »
Barnes has been injured most of the season to be fair to him. But think he and Gordon play the same position so always felt a slightly strange signing.

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Re: 7he Manches7er Uni7ed 7hread - NO GREENWOOD/ANTONY*
« Reply #7780 on: February 15, 2024, 01:13:17 pm »
Haven't seen an interview with him so no idea how bright/good he is.... but hasn't Newcastle's recruitment been largely good since the takeover?

Tonali was an excellent signing tbf

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Re: 7he Manches7er Uni7ed 7hread - NO GREENWOOD/ANTONY*
« Reply #7781 on: February 15, 2024, 01:47:26 pm »
Weren’t there a few rumours that INEOS wanted to focus on a a British core, which would make sense with Ashworth. Reckon they just got to buying mid-tier British players and supplementing with odd signings elsewhere.

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Re: 7he Manches7er Uni7ed 7hread - NO GREENWOOD/ANTONY*
« Reply #7782 on: February 15, 2024, 01:55:08 pm »
No surprise they have a rat infestation issue.



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Re: 7he Manches7er Uni7ed 7hread - NO GREENWOOD/ANTONY*
« Reply #7783 on: February 15, 2024, 01:55:17 pm »
He's got incredible PR and journalist contacts. This Winter tweet (it's long) is just unbelievable

https://twitter.com/henrywinter/status/1758092699117236569?t=30vVuRKlVICZ8g8--peRNQ&s=19Oh dear

Oh dear, admiring Gary Neville as thinker about the game. What a catch for Man Utd.
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Re: 7he Manches7er Uni7ed 7hread - NO GREENWOOD/ANTONY*
« Reply #7784 on: February 15, 2024, 01:57:41 pm »
Weren’t there a few rumours that INEOS wanted to focus on a a British core, which would make sense with Ashworth. Reckon they just got to buying mid-tier British players and supplementing with odd signings elsewhere.

Well that’s fine. The best English players are the ones that are unattainable for them one way or another (Bellingham, Foden, Trent etc).

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Re: 7he Manches7er Uni7ed 7hread - NO GREENWOOD/ANTONY*
« Reply #7785 on: February 15, 2024, 02:47:26 pm »
Just me that doesn’t think Ashworth is a particularly amazing appointment?

Newcastles work in the market has hardly been anything special IMO

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Re: 7he Manches7er Uni7ed 7hread - NO GREENWOOD/ANTONY*
« Reply #7786 on: February 15, 2024, 02:58:18 pm »
The press are so, so desperate for this lot to be 'back' it's actually vomit inducing.  Winter has always been a c*nt like.
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Re: 7he Manches7er Uni7ed 7hread - NO GREENWOOD/ANTONY*
« Reply #7787 on: February 15, 2024, 02:58:59 pm »
Tonali was an excellent signing tbf

Is that sarcasm....? He wasn't particularly great in the short time he was available, was he?

Their summer activity to me was a bit meh. Considering they were back in the CL they signed him, and then a couple of not particularly outstanding relegated players, for £150 million. Definitely not signings that were ever going to push them on and so we've seen, just barely in the top half of the table. Considering he's got last season and this season under his belt I'm not sure there's a single signing that you'd particularly pick out as being a really good one, which isn't great considering they've spent £350 million odd in that time.

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Re: 7he Manches7er Uni7ed 7hread - NO GREENWOOD/ANTONY*
« Reply #7788 on: February 15, 2024, 03:41:19 pm »
Redcafe is talking about being "happy with 6th" because of injuries :D

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« Reply #7789 on: February 15, 2024, 10:45:40 pm »
Weren’t there a few rumours that INEOS wanted to focus on a a British core, which would make sense with Ashworth. Reckon they just got to buying mid-tier British players and supplementing with odd signings elsewhere.

All their signings tend to be odd.

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Re: 7he Manches7er Uni7ed 7hread - NO GREENWOOD/ANTONY*
« Reply #7790 on: February 15, 2024, 10:53:24 pm »
Just me that doesn’t think Ashworth is a particularly amazing appointment?

Newcastles work in the market has hardly been anything special IMO

Isn't he more of a structure person than a transfer guru or super scout?

Talk of them going for Jason Wilcox as well and they got the CEO from City.

It's not majorly eye catching but they are putting things in place behind tge scenes, which we're going to need to soon.
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« Reply #7791 on: February 15, 2024, 10:57:55 pm »
Redcafe is talking about being "happy with 6th" because of injuries :D

The mental gymnastics to justify the premise and methodology were impressive.

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« Reply #7792 on: February 15, 2024, 11:34:51 pm »
Just me that doesn’t think Ashworth is a particularly amazing appointment?

Newcastles work in the market has hardly been anything special IMO

No one has a clue how good these guys are. They can be made to look good based on a few signings they weren't really involved in, or be made to look bad by a bad coach or whatever. It's pointless thinking about it or really caring.
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« Reply #7793 on: February 16, 2024, 10:55:30 am »
Just had a reminder that Manchester United plc are based in the Cayman Islands. Nice to see their little offshoot club in the UK are doing oh so well.
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Re: 7he Manches7er Uni7ed 7hread - NO GREENWOOD/ANTONY*
« Reply #7794 on: February 16, 2024, 10:58:34 am »
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« Reply #7795 on: February 17, 2024, 10:40:42 am »
He's got incredible PR and journalist contacts. This Winter tweet (it's long) is just unbelievable

https://twitter.com/henrywinter/status/1758092699117236569?t=30vVuRKlVICZ8g8--peRNQ&s=19Oh dear

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Re: 7he Manches7er Uni7ed 7hread - NO GREENWOOD/ANTONY*
« Reply #7796 on: February 17, 2024, 09:53:50 pm »
Seeing a lot of footie reactions, like Goldbridge and Ecila, being very complimentary towards Liverpool lately. They're couching it in terms of "can anybody stop Liverpool?" and, "How are they so good with so many players injured!?"; plus Bradley seems to be getting universal praise.

It's almost like they want to wish us well, but can't be obvious about it. Maybe they've secretly had enough of City as well?
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Re: 7he Manches7er Uni7ed 7hread - NO GREENWOOD/ANTONY*
« Reply #7797 on: February 17, 2024, 11:07:10 pm »
Seeing a lot of footie reactions, like Goldbridge and Ecila, being very complimentary towards Liverpool lately. They're couching it in terms of "can anybody stop Liverpool?" and, "How are they so good with so many players injured!?"; plus Bradley seems to be getting universal praise.

It's almost like they want to wish us well, but can't be obvious about it. Maybe they've secretly had enough of City as well?

Don't watch any of Ecila, it seems every video is about Liverpool and she's upset at what we do. So, just done for views/hits. She should support her own team.
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Re: 7he Manches7er Uni7ed 7hread - NO GREENWOOD/ANTONY*
« Reply #7798 on: February 17, 2024, 11:12:06 pm »
Seven Hag says they’d have been challenging  for the league if FFP hadn’t meant they had to buy younger players instead


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Re: 7he Manches7er Uni7ed 7hread - NO GREENWOOD/ANTONY*
« Reply #7799 on: February 17, 2024, 11:18:20 pm »
Villa and spurs both wobbling, can see united finishing 4th ahead of them both.
I for one welcome our new insect overloads