Topic: 7he Manches7er Uni7ed 7hread - NO GREENWOOD/ANTONY*

[GBF]

Tomorrow, a United win with Rashford scoring

[PeterTheRed ...]

I'm surprised there hasn't been talk that the job is too big for him such is the state of the managerial market. Biggest thing he's got going for him is that he'd be given a bit of time. If Tuchel or Pochettino showed up with no European competition, there would be a minimum expectation of CL qualification. McKenna coming in would give them an opportunity to clear out some of the dross because the expectations would be much lower. That and given how Brexit Jim runs things, he'd be a lot fucking cheaper with far less demands

McKenna would probably be good news for the likes of Hojlund, Garnacho, Mainoo, Diallo and Kambwala, but I can't see their fans having the patience for their club to go in that direction ...

[PaulF]

If the miracle happens and united win, we should remind them they kept Ferguson on the back of an fa cup win.

[DarkOfTheManatee]

If their shortlist is Tuchel and McKenna then it really suggest Ineos aren't going to turn around Man Utd anytime soon. They're absolutely nothing alike and would require completely different strategies from the club to help them be successful.

One of them is a proven (if overrated) manager who doesn't play well with others, will want experienced players that will let him compete immediately, and hasn't shown he can last anywhere more than two years.

The other is a promising but totally unproven manager at PL level, who would need lots of time and patience, and would presumably be much more amenable about fitting into their new structure.

[ABZ Rover]

They are fucked, it’s lovely 😀

[coolbyrne]

I wasnt going to bother with the cup final as it will be a media wank fest whoever wins it especially if the red mancs win or ADFC really batter them. Ive changed my mind now though just in case Ten Hag does something really funny.

If I was Ten Hag theres no way I would quit now and lose any money. I would start the final with 11 shite players (first 11 obviously) then do weird subs like as soon as one of them cocks up (Like Garnacho running fast with the ball then giving it away at the end) taking him off for a full back or someone worse if thats possible. Subbing the subs would be funny too then at the final whistle turn to the big noise seats and give them the finger before walking off. Then sit back and wait for the bank transfer and once that was deposited tell the world what a clusterfuck of a club they were.

I've got no love for Ten Hag, but I agree with you here- there's no way I'd quit and lose that money. Take every last £ from these fuckers, because as much as I laugh at them, how they're going about sacking him is absolutely classless. He basically was sacked via social media. And I love your idea of fielding the worst 11, then doing stupid subs in different positions. Would serve them right if he made them even more comical than they already are. I'd laugh and laugh if they won tomorrow.

According to Goldbridge, they could field pretty much the same XI that has seen 4 managers get the sack. But you know, it's the manager's fault. And the fact they seem to be debating between Tuchel and McKenna shows they have no fucking idea what they want in terms of 'philosophy'. What a clown show.

[ljycb]

It’s the right decision for them to get rid of him because they are going nowhere with him in charge, but how are they in a situation where for the second time in a decade they’ve got an already sacked manager leading them out in an FA Cup final? A complete laughing stock even under their new ownership it seems. It’s a good job I hate them, because I would be appalled if I was a supporter.

[BarryCrocker]

If their shortlist is Tuchel and McKenna then it really suggest Ineos aren't going to turn around Man Utd anytime soon. They're absolutely nothing alike and would require completely different strategies from the club to help them be successful.

One of them is a proven (if overrated) manager who doesn't play well with others, will want experienced players that will let him compete immediately, and hasn't shown he can last anywhere more than two years.

The other is a promising but totally unproven manager at PL level, who would need lots of time and patience, and would presumably be much more amenable about fitting into their new structure.

They'll go for Xavi now Barca are jettisoning him.

[GreatEx]

It’s the right decision for them to get rid of him because they are going nowhere with him in charge, but how are they in a situation where for the second time in a decade they’ve got an already sacked manager leading them out in an FA Cup final? A complete laughing stock even under their new ownership it seems. It’s a good job I hate them, because I would be appalled if I was a supporter.

Maybe they looked at van Gaal and decided their best chance of pulling a cupset is to sack the manager beforehand, like Hag will be motivated to leave them with a sense of regret. It's a novel approach, for sure. Should we have got out ahead of Klopp’s announcement and leaked our intention to sack him in June even if he wins the quadruple?

[Peabee]

Ratcliffe has saved a few grand on hospitality for players' families and expenses for office staff, but he's got the club forking out millions to terminate Ten Hag's contract.

[BarryCrocker]

Ratcliffe has saved a few grand on hospitality for players' families and expenses for office staff, but he's got the club forking out millions to terminate Ten Hag's contract.

Which he'll offset by jacking up ticket prices.

[Chris~]

Just in case anyone felt sorry for Ten Haag he's come out to defend Overmars again

[Crosby Nick]

Just in case anyone felt sorry for Ten Haag he's come out to defend Overmars again

It’s more than John Curtis did at Old Trafford in March 1998.

[A Red Abroad]

It’s more than John Curtis did at Old Trafford in March 1998.

Very good. 

[Tokyoite]

Just in case anyone felt sorry for Ten Haag he's come out to defend Overmars again

Just read his comments on this. Not surprising really as he was also in favour of keeping you know who.
A vile human being, glad he will fuck off soon.

[gerrardisgod]

It’s more than John Curtis did at Old Trafford in March 1998.

God that’s good.

[Hazell]

Just read his comments on this. Not surprising really as he was also in favour of keeping you know who..

Who? Greenwood? Anthony? Giggs? Martin Edwards?

[Elliemental]

Good god, these are an absolute wreck of a club.

[Hazell]

It’s more than John Curtis did at Old Trafford in March 1998.

[Peabee]

Just in case anyone felt sorry for Ten Haag he's come out to defend Overmars again

Shows the type of "man" he is. Overmars himself said his own behaviour was unacceptable and offered his resignation.

[JP!]

How good is this McKenna fella? I know he's done bits at Ipswich and seems highly rated. I've not read up about him

Seems a good coach, done well in limited data, but also has history there that didn't seem overly positive and it seems WAY too early to give him this job, especially considering the gang of malcontents he'll still have to deal with.

[12C]

Is that British born and now resident of tax haven Monaco complaining about immigration? Seen he's also complaining about the NHS being overburdened.

He’s what the far right like to call an economic migrant seeking asylum from taxation
Deeply unpleasant man.
Wanted Brexit and moved his grenadier production to France.

[Stockholm Syndrome]

So this is embarrassing for them, when will they sack Ten Hag now?

Still fair play to them, glad they beat City

[4pool]

So, E7H will get a FA Cup sweetener when he gets the sack.

[Hymer Red]

Tax Dodger missed a trick there he could have put Ten Hags P45 in the cup and saved on postage

[Garlicbread]

Mainoo looks a real talent. Let's see if they can find a way to ruin him as well.

[Buster Gonad]

After last seasons cup win the BBC had a picture of Ten Haag dressed as a magician.  After this seasons he'll dissappear. 

[A Red Abroad]

After last seasons cup win the BBC had a picture of Ten Haag dressed as a magician.  After this seasons he'll dissappear.

 

[jepovic]

They cant fire him now right? Their biggest achievement in ages

[damomad]

Football is a funny old game. They were about a cm going out against Coventry, in what would have been the biggest bottle job in FA Cup history. And then they go and beat City in the final. Jammy twats.

[n00bert]

Just one of those results where there’s no downside. City win, and it’s a nothing thing. United win, and it’s fuck the cheats. As Klopp said, best result is if they both lose but whoever won doesn’t bother me. The joke is on the Arsenal fans who after being brilliant all season have less the show for it then this shower.

[PaulF]

Eth has more trophy's with utd than arteta with arsenal...

[Terry de Niro]

Eth has more trophy's with utd than arteta with arsenal...

Go and tell TNB that in the Arsenal thread.

[Tobelius]

Mainoo looks a real talent. Let's see if they can find a way to ruin him as well.

They'll hype him to be the new Keane or Scholes now and he'll either become maybe half of what they're hoping for or crumble completely under pressure.

[DarkOfTheManatee]

Shame that Ten Hag did so badly in the league this season that even an FA Cup can't save him. But hopefully it'll at least put a bit of extra pressure on the next manager. Memories are short, so if they come 6th next season but win nothing, fans might start saying "under Ten Hag we may have been shit in the league, but at least got some silverware" and turn against the next poor sap who's being handed a bucket and told to bail out the Titanic.

[johnny74]

Almost a perfect result. I was kind of wondering whether they would have the sacking ceremony straight after the trophy celebration. Makes sense really because everyone's already there together. But now looks like they will wait a while because it's going to look bad straight after a win which means they delay even more which gives less time to prepare a new manager or even find one.

[Black Bull Nova]

United now need to hastily arrange a parade as they probably thought it was pointless, I love that they are likely to sack their most successful manager since Ferguson

[Clint Eastwood]

Ten Hag handled some of those spiky interview questions well, but he will never be cut any slack for how poor his team is because he's the one who is responsible for them spending so much money on players like Antony, Onana, Casemiro. He constructed that team. He complains about injuries but if his goalkeeper wasn't so poor they'd have conceded less goals. If their £100m winger wasn't a waste of a shirt then that would also be helpful. They've both been fit all season.

It's a big decision to make. He's been a damp squib and any other year I'd say they should just sack him, but there isn't an obvious replacement for him out there. If they are sensible their next coach will be young and future-focused. It would be very 'United' to sack him for Tuchel - one of those immediate success, burn-the-place-down-on-the-way-out kind of coaches. Amorim maybe. Hoeness from Stuttgart looks interesting too.

[harleydanger]

The fabled 5-0-5 formation claims its latest victim.

[Chris~]

Ten Hag handled some of those spiky interview questions well, but he will never be cut any slack for how poor his team is because he's the one who is responsible for them spending so much money on players like Antony, Onana, Casemiro. He constructed that team. He complains about injuries but if his goalkeeper wasn't so poor they'd have conceded less goals. If their £100m winger wasn't a waste of a shirt then that would also be helpful. They've both been fit all season.

It's a big decision to make. He's been a damp squib and any other year I'd say they should just sack him, but there isn't an obvious replacement for him out there. If they are sensible their next coach will be young and future-focused. It would be very 'United' to sack him for Tuchel - one of those immediate success, burn-the-place-down-on-the-way-out kind of coaches. Amorim maybe. Hoeness from Stuttgart looks interesting too.

Unless they had Alisson, or a goalkeeper having a freak season, they were always going to concede a lot. They conceded the second most shots in the league, fifth most against on target, it wasn't the goal keeper that caused them to concede so much and I think that highlights how bad a manager he is, or season they had. They were a bottom half side who got away with it loads+ some individual quality in attack that those bottom half clubs don't have.